I feel I am near to finding more information on Russen family but this will entail parish records.Can anyone tell me if they know of a researcher which they could recomend? as I am unable to travel to Hampshire.many thanks Jan Bispham

---- Angie Kemp <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Anthony, Just to clarify, is ALBURY Nellie's maiden name is that definitely the correct spelling? I checked the birth index on ancestry for Q3 1877 and found the following: ALBERY Mary Louisa District: Petersfield Volume: 2c Page: 134 There is no record for ALBURY in that quarter of that year. I shall send you the image off-list just in case. Regards, Angie Hi Angie, Up until Nellie's surname was spelt ALBURY. That is the spelling on her wedding cert. However I have not been able to find anyone of that name born during 18700-1880 I've had to try all variations of that name. Just recentlty the name NELLY AULBERY has cropped up that appears to tick most of the boxes. I've traced her from 1881 and 1891 census and now need to find where she was in 1901. She appears to be somewhat reluctant to appear on that census. Thank you also for the copy of the birth index. Her christian name has never been in doubt so unfortunately that is not her. My main thrust now is that missing census with sideway glances at the married & death indexes. I fully appreciate all the interest and help you've given me. Many thanks - Anthony > On Mar 6, 2008, at 1:33 PM, <[email protected]> <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Hi Folks, > > NELLIE ALBURY was married in 1901.On the certificate she gave her > > age as 26. Thus she was born c1875. She and her husband emmigrated > > to the US in the same year. On the 1910 US census (dated 20th > > Apri)l, census she gives her age as 34 (b1876), the 1920 census > > shows her to be 42 (b1878) and on the 1930 census she’s 52 (b1878). > > In July of 1922 she applies for a passport. This time she gives her > > birth details – born in Hampshire, 12th August 1877. All this and I > > still CANNOT FIND HER !!!!!!!!! I’ve tried BMD and findmypast sites, > > different spellings, but to no avail. So, I feel that only leaves > > Parish Registers. This is uncharted territory to me. > > Please can sks advise on my next move ? > > Yours hopefully, > > Anthony > > > > > > For FREE online parish register transcriptions visit the Hampshire > > OPC at www.knightroots.co.uk > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > > the body of the message > > > For FREE online parish register transcriptions visit the Hampshire OPC at www.knightroots.co.uk > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message For FREE online parish register transcriptions visit the Hampshire OPC at www.knightroots.co.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Anthony, Just to clarify, is ALBURY Nellie's maiden name is that definitely the correct spelling? I checked the birth index on ancestry for Q3 1877 and found the following: ALBERY Mary Louisa District: Petersfield Volume: 2c Page: 134 There is no record for ALBURY in that quarter of that year. I shall send you the image off-list just in case. Regards, Angie > On Mar 6, 2008, at 1:33 PM, <[email protected]> <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Hi Folks, > > NELLIE ALBURY was married in 1901.On the certificate she gave her > > age as 26. Thus she was born c1875. She and her husband emmigrated > > to the US in the same year. On the 1910 US census (dated 20th > > Apri)l, census she gives her age as 34 (b1876), the 1920 census > > shows her to be 42 (b1878) and on the 1930 census she’s 52 (b1878). > > In July of 1922 she applies for a passport. This time she gives her > > birth details – born in Hampshire, 12th August 1877. All this and I > > still CANNOT FIND HER !!!!!!!!! I’ve tried BMD and findmypast sites, > > different spellings, but to no avail. So, I feel that only leaves > > Parish Registers. This is uncharted territory to me. > > Please can sks advise on my next move ? > > Yours hopefully, > > Anthony > > > > > > For FREE online parish register transcriptions visit the Hampshire > > OPC at www.knightroots.co.uk > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > > the body of the message > > > For FREE online parish register transcriptions visit the Hampshire OPC at www.knightroots.co.uk > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, I have found your nellie, she was registered 1874 as Nelly AULBERY, She married Arther Vasey Sept Qtr. 1895. 1901 Census Living at 19, Alver Road Portsea. Arthur Vasey age 32yrs commercial traveller born Doncaster Yorkshire Nelly age 26 Born Portsmouth Arthur D. age 2 born Portsmouth Nellie M age 10months born Portsmouth. Nellie is on the 1881 and 1891 census Best wishes Val -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 07 March 2008 08:37 To: [email protected] Subject: [HAM] Hiding ??????????? Hi Folks, Please could sks look up NELLIE ALBURY (aka NELLY AULBERY) on the 1901 census. Born 1875 Portsea Hampshire - Father JOHN AULBERY Mother BETSEY. Optics is wearing out, looking !!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you very much. Anthony For FREE online parish register transcriptions visit the Hampshire OPC at www.knightroots.co.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.6/1315 - Release Date: 06/03/2008 09:07

Hi, Nelly was registered Nelly Aulbery 1874 Portsea. Neely married Arthur Vasey Sept Qtr Portsea. Hence not being on the 1901 as Aulbery. 1901 census Arthur Vasey age 32 Commercial Traveller born Doncaster Yorkshire. Nellie " 26 born Portsea Arthur D. " 2 born Portsea Nellie M. age 10m born Portsea. Best wishes Val

Hi, Romsey Poorhouse would be in Winchester local studies Hampshire, they are close until early spring due to refurbishments. Val -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Janice Bispham Sent: 07 March 2008 08:45 To: [email protected] Subject: [HAM] RUSSEN I have just received a death cert for Richard RUSSEN dated 1848 and residence Poorhouse Romsey Extra. I wonder if any knows if records exist of the Poorhouse?I feel this has to be one of 'my' Richard Russens but unfortuneately there are no other facts I can use to confirm with on the certificate.Poorhouse records would I hope give details of marriage status and maybe an address.Jan Bispham For FREE online parish register transcriptions visit the Hampshire OPC at www.knightroots.co.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.6/1315 - Release Date: 06/03/2008 09:07

Hi, Thanks all for helping with Latin abbreviations ~~ a.. ped. fin. b.. plac. de c.. a quo d.. cons.ct e.. ped. ante a.. Feet of Fines b.. plea of/pleading of c.. from whom d.. consistory court d.. prior pedigree/prior foot of fines Thanks kindly, Edna - Ottawa

Thanks David for the info....unfortunately, no I do not have any info re: Barkers in the Hants area - I was just surprised to see my maiden name pop up on the list! The Barkers that I'm researching were in Alberta as early as 1888 and possibly earlier. I'll have to check out the ships lists to see if I can track them down, but like you said, there are LOTS of barkers, and finding the right person/couple might be tricky. I'm on the Hants list due to researching the COX, HOLLAND and HILL families from around Fleet, Crookham and Farnham (surrey). S. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of david dowd Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2008 6:58 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [HAM] BARKER, Kings Somborne, Stockbridge, Itchenstoke,Winchester Dear Sharon, BARKER is from the Norman French occupation berchier 'shepherd' so is, as you can imagine, very common. You would need to find a passenger list (your timescale is luckily after they became common) somewhere to prove which port of embarkation they set out from. In the 1891 Census, most Barkers were concentrated in Yorkshire (where it appeared shortly after the Conquest), West Essex and South Cambridgeshire - however they were, and are, to be found everywhere, BUT very few in Hampshire then. Does the fact that you e-mailed the Hants. list with a number of places near the Wiltshire border mean that you have some information about the Barker's English roots? Regards, David Fo

I have just received a death cert for Richard RUSSEN dated 1848 and residence Poorhouse Romsey Extra. I wonder if any knows if records exist of the Poorhouse?I feel this has to be one of 'my' Richard Russens but unfortuneately there are no other facts I can use to confirm with on the certificate.Poorhouse records would I hope give details of marriage status and maybe an address.Jan Bispham

Hi Folks, Please could sks look up NELLIE ALBURY (aka NELLY AULBERY) on the 1901 census. Born 1875 Portsea Hampshire - Father JOHN AULBERY Mother BETSEY. Optics is wearing out, looking !!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you very much. Anthony

Hi, It sometimes takes years to find people but it takes research, and lots of it. It is not all on the net. Edna - Ottawa ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 3:37 AM Subject: [HAM] Hiding ??????????? Hi Folks, Please could sks look up NELLIE ALBURY (aka NELLY AULBERY) on the 1901 census. Born 1875 Portsea Hampshire - Father JOHN AULBERY Mother BETSEY. Optics is wearing out, looking !!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you very much. Anthony For FREE online parish register transcriptions visit the Hampshire OPC at www.knightroots.co.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Pat, Yes she married John Stephen Brown in 1901 prior going to the US. He was my gfather's eldest brother. Nellie's father is down as Edward - Butler- deceased. I checked that out and the only result I came up with was an Edward Dec. 'Policeman. It doesn't get any better !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Frustated Anthony ---- Patricia Moreau <[email protected]> wrote: > Anthony > > You mention the marriage in 1901. I found it in the 2nd qt. What is > Nellie's father's name? > > Pat > > > > On Mar 6, 2008, at 1:33 PM, <[email protected]> <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Hi Folks, > > NELLIE ALBURY was married in 1901.On the certificate she gave her > > age as 26. Thus she was born c1875. She and her husband emmigrated > > to the US in the same year. On the 1910 US census (dated 20th > > Apri)l, census she gives her age as 34 (b1876), the 1920 census > > shows her to be 42 (b1878) and on the 1930 census she’s 52 (b1878). > > In July of 1922 she applies for a passport. This time she gives her > > birth details – born in Hampshire, 12th August 1877. All this and I > > still CANNOT FIND HER !!!!!!!!! I’ve tried BMD and findmypast sites, > > different spellings, but to no avail. So, I feel that only leaves > > Parish Registers. This is uncharted territory to me. > > Please can sks advise on my next move ? > > Yours hopefully, > > Anthony > > > > > > For FREE online parish register transcriptions visit the Hampshire > > OPC at www.knightroots.co.uk > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > > the body of the message > > > For FREE online parish register transcriptions visit the Hampshire OPC at www.knightroots.co.uk > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you verymuch Pat. Will check it out. Gratefully - Anthony ---- Patricia Moreau <[email protected]> wrote: > Anthony, > > I checked Free BMD for 1870-1880 and found the following registrations > at Alton, HAM: > > Mary Jane 1871 > Rose > Ellen 1872 > Rosa > Harriet 1874 > Amelia 1875 > Mary > Bessie Mathilda 1876 > Rose 1879 > > It may be any one of the above. > > Pat > > > On Mar 6, 2008, at 1:33 PM, <[email protected]> <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Hi Folks, > > NELLIE ALBURY was married in 1901.On the certificate she gave her > > age as 26. Thus she was born c1875. She and her husband emmigrated > > to the US in the same year. On the 1910 US census (dated 20th > > Apri)l, census she gives her age as 34 (b1876), the 1920 census > > shows her to be 42 (b1878) and on the 1930 census she’s 52 (b1878). > > In July of 1922 she applies for a passport. This time she gives her > > birth details – born in Hampshire, 12th August 1877. All this and I > > still CANNOT FIND HER !!!!!!!!! I’ve tried BMD and findmypast sites, > > different spellings, but to no avail. So, I feel that only leaves > > Parish Registers. This is uncharted territory to me. > > Please can sks advise on my next move ? > > Yours hopefully, > > Anthony > > > > > > For FREE online parish register transcriptions visit the Hampshire > > OPC at www.knightroots.co.uk > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > > the body of the message > > > For FREE online parish register transcriptions visit the Hampshire OPC at www.knightroots.co.uk > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Sharon, BARKER is from the Norman French occupation berchier 'shepherd' so is, as you can imagine, very common. You would need to find a passenger list (your timescale is luckily after they became common) somewhere to prove which port of embarkation they set out from. In the 1891 Census, most Barkers were concentrated in Yorkshire (where it appeared shortly after the Conquest), West Essex and South Cambridgeshire - however they were, and are, to be found everywhere, BUT very few in Hampshire then. Does the fact that you e-mailed the Hants. list with a number of places near the Wiltshire border mean that you have some information about the Barker's English roots? Regards, David

To add to David's answer - These legal documents were cut with wavy, zig-zag or simply torn along lines, were indented to prevent forgery. The holders of each document had a check of authenticy by matching the indentations. These became known as **indentures**. As in "A contract binding one party into the service of another for a specified term." Cheers Col ----- Original Message ----- From: "david dowd" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 7:26 PM Subject: Re: [HAM] Latin Abbreviations > ped. fin. = Feet of Fines (documents [usually conveyances] triplicated on > the same vellum, cut up with wavy lines to prevent forgery, and the foot > retained by the Court of Common Pleas) where fine = final concord > (agreement).

Hi Folks, NELLIE ALBURY was married in 1901.On the certificate she gave her age as 26. Thus she was born c1875. She and her husband emmigrated to the US in the same year. On the 1910 US census (dated 20th Apri)l, census she gives her age as 34 (b1876), the 1920 census shows her to be 42 (b1878) and on the 1930 census she’s 52 (b1878). In July of 1922 she applies for a passport. This time she gives her birth details – born in Hampshire, 12th August 1877. All this and I still CANNOT FIND HER !!!!!!!!! I’ve tried BMD and findmypast sites, different spellings, but to no avail. So, I feel that only leaves Parish Registers. This is uncharted territory to me. Please can sks advise on my next move ? Yours hopefully, Anthony

Hi Listers Returning after nearly a year away from my Hampshire genealogy, I am wondering if someone can tell me if there is in existence any settlement deeds or appropriate documentation for folk moving from Basingstoke to Bishops Sutton. I am trying to establish if WILLIAM KNIGHT baptised 1759 in Basingstoke, son of RICHARD and RUTH KNIGHT, could be the same WILLIAM KNIGHT who married ELIZABETH ANDREWS in Bishops Sutton in 1782 as his age on death matches plus familial names are interesting. Hoping for some enlightenment. Kind regards; ED. Researching in Hampshire CULL, DYMOTT, GOODALL, GUY, KNIGHT, MASTERS, MERRETT, SHERIN and TUCKER.

Anthony You mention the marriage in 1901. I found it in the 2nd qt. What is Nellie's father's name? Pat On Mar 6, 2008, at 1:33 PM, <[email protected]> <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Folks, > NELLIE ALBURY was married in 1901.On the certificate she gave her > age as 26. Thus she was born c1875. She and her husband emmigrated > to the US in the same year. On the 1910 US census (dated 20th > Apri)l, census she gives her age as 34 (b1876), the 1920 census > shows her to be 42 (b1878) and on the 1930 census she’s 52 (b1878). > In July of 1922 she applies for a passport. This time she gives her > birth details – born in Hampshire, 12th August 1877. All this and I > still CANNOT FIND HER !!!!!!!!! I’ve tried BMD and findmypast sites, > different spellings, but to no avail. So, I feel that only leaves > Parish Registers. This is uncharted territory to me. > Please can sks advise on my next move ? > Yours hopefully, > Anthony > > > For FREE online parish register transcriptions visit the Hampshire > OPC at www.knightroots.co.uk > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Was her maiden name ALBURY, and try different spellings? Could her first name be Ellen or Helen? Try: http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl Try: www.familysearch.org also for Census '81. Edna - Ottawa ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 2:33 PM Subject: [HAM] Mobile Birthday ? Hi Folks, NELLIE ALBURY was married in 1901.On the certificate she gave her age as 26. Thus she was born c1875. She and her husband emmigrated to the US in the same year. On the 1910 US census (dated 20th Apri)l, census she gives her age as 34 (b1876), the 1920 census shows her to be 42 (b1878) and on the 1930 census she’s 52 (b1878). In July of 1922 she applies for a passport. This time she gives her birth details – born in Hampshire, 12th August 1877. All this and I still CANNOT FIND HER !!!!!!!!! I’ve tried BMD and findmypast sites, different spellings, but to no avail. So, I feel that only leaves Parish Registers. This is uncharted territory to me. Please can sks advise on my next move ? Yours hopefully, Anthony For FREE online parish register transcriptions visit the Hampshire OPC at www.knightroots.co.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Anthony, I checked Free BMD for 1870-1880 and found the following registrations at Alton, HAM: Mary Jane 1871 Rose Ellen 1872 Rosa Harriet 1874 Amelia 1875 Mary Bessie Mathilda 1876 Rose 1879 It may be any one of the above. Pat On Mar 6, 2008, at 1:33 PM, <[email protected]> <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Folks, > NELLIE ALBURY was married in 1901.On the certificate she gave her > age as 26. Thus she was born c1875. She and her husband emmigrated > to the US in the same year. On the 1910 US census (dated 20th > Apri)l, census she gives her age as 34 (b1876), the 1920 census > shows her to be 42 (b1878) and on the 1930 census she’s 52 (b1878). > In July of 1922 she applies for a passport. This time she gives her > birth details – born in Hampshire, 12th August 1877. All this and I > still CANNOT FIND HER !!!!!!!!! I’ve tried BMD and findmypast sites, > different spellings, but to no avail. So, I feel that only leaves > Parish Registers. This is uncharted territory to me. > Please can sks advise on my next move ? > Yours hopefully, > Anthony > > > For FREE online parish register transcriptions visit the Hampshire > OPC at www.knightroots.co.uk > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message