Hi Yvonne - do you have them in 1841? In case you don't they are certainly living in High St, Fareham: James CONNOR 40 Tinman. Not born in county Mary 40 James 19 John 17 Agnes 15 Amos 13 1851 this seems to be the same family: 6 Vincents Walk, Southampton All Saints John A CONNOR 26 Gas fitter. B Fareham Mary A. 23. B Baldock, Hertfordshire Mary J 4 George A 2 James 5 mths all children born Southampton James 52 Father/Wid. Tin plate worker. B Hastings, Sussex. Like you, I don't yet see Amos anywhere after 1841 but will have another search around. Regards, Patsy - New Zealand Subject: [HAM] CONNOR > Is anyone researching the name CONNOR in Hampshire, possibly the Fareham > area? I have JAMES CONNOR who married Mary AnnCouzens on 6 October > 1817 in Fareham. They had the following children baptised in Fareham > (all info from IGI): MARY ANN, 1820 (my ancestor); JAMES EDWARD, 1822; > JOHN ARTIMUS, 1824; AGNES AUGUSTA, 1826; AMOS WILLIAM, 1829, STEPHEN, > 1831. > Apart from Mary Ann, the only other information I have is for Agnes > Augusta, on the 1851 census in Liverpool with her uncle and aunt, John & > Charlotte Shields. She subsequently married in Liverpool. There is a > marriage for John Artimus on Free BMD in 1846 in Southampton, partner > unknown, but no definite census listing. I have no definite information > on the other children, except for AMOS WILLIAM, who was a witness at the > wedding of his niece ELIZA EDMUNDS, daughter of Mary Ann and husband > Richard Edmunds, on 12 May 1867 in Shoreditch, London. It puzzles me > that I cannot find him on any censuses. I suspect that he dropped the > Amos from his name and is listed somewhere under William Connor but > there are too many to be sure. > Unfortunately I have misplaced the notes I made years ago which showed > that JAMES CONNOR was a Tinsmith/Whitesmith/Brazier on High Street, > Fareham, sometime in the 1840s. I am sure I got this information from a > Hampshire Directory. > Does anyone have any information on JAMES CONNOR and/or any of his > children, please? > > Yvonne in Wales

Thanks for looking Bob but I know my John Smallpeice was born in 1776 in Stoke next Guildford ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 4:40 PM Subject: Re: [HAM] SMALLPEICE > Had a look can't see any of these two, or the census 1841 Possible birth > of > John 1789 Near Guildford but that's it > > Bob > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jane Moelwyn-Hughes" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 2:02 PM > Subject: [HAM] SMALLPEICE > > >> Can anyone confirm a marriage between John Smallpeice of Guildford and a >> Diana possibly CROKE on the Isle of Wight between 1826 and 1841 when she >> is on a census as his 3rd wife >> >> Many thanks Jane >> For FREE online parish register transcriptions visit the Hampshire OPC at >> www.knightroots.co.uk >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > For FREE online parish register transcriptions visit the Hampshire OPC at > www.knightroots.co.uk > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Had a look can't see any of these two, or the census 1841 Possible birth of John 1789 Near Guildford but that's it Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane Moelwyn-Hughes" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 2:02 PM Subject: [HAM] SMALLPEICE > Can anyone confirm a marriage between John Smallpeice of Guildford and a > Diana possibly CROKE on the Isle of Wight between 1826 and 1841 when she > is on a census as his 3rd wife > > Many thanks Jane > For FREE online parish register transcriptions visit the Hampshire OPC at > www.knightroots.co.uk > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can anyone confirm a marriage between John Smallpeice of Guildford and a Diana possibly CROKE on the Isle of Wight between 1826 and 1841 when she is on a census as his 3rd wife Many thanks Jane

As Liverpud has said, there is an Alfred Road in Portsmouth, it is a part of the designated A3 (London to Portsmouth Road) - an e-mail to the local studies library might determine whether there was either a street of that name formerly in another location on the island, or whether the road was simply changed from street at some point in history. I can find no current Alfred street in Odiham, Hook or anywhere close - although there is another Alfred road in Farnham, which is not far away but over the border into Surrey. John -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of liverpud Sent: 28 March 2008 02:30 To: Hampshire-L Subject: [HAM] Alfred St. in Portsea or Odiham? Is there, was there, an Alfred St. in Portsea (or Odiham) circa 1901? Thanks, Edna - Ottawa For FREE online parish register transcriptions visit the Hampshire OPC at www.knightroots.co.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Is anyone researching the name CONNOR in Hampshire, possibly the Fareham area? I have JAMES CONNOR who married Mary AnnCouzens on 6 October 1817 in Fareham. They had the following children baptised in Fareham (all info from IGI): MARY ANN, 1820 (my ancestor); JAMES EDWARD, 1822; JOHN ARTIMUS, 1824; AGNES AUGUSTA, 1826; AMOS WILLIAM, 1829, STEPHEN, 1831. Apart from Mary Ann, the only other information I have is for Agnes Augusta, on the 1851 census in Liverpool with her uncle and aunt, John & Charlotte Shields. She subsequently married in Liverpool. There is a marriage for John Artimus on Free BMD in 1846 in Southampton, partner unknown, but no definite census listing. I have no definite information on the other children, except for AMOS WILLIAM, who was a witness at the wedding of his niece ELIZA EDMUNDS, daughter of Mary Ann and husband Richard Edmunds, on 12 May 1867 in Shoreditch, London. It puzzles me that I cannot find him on any censuses. I suspect that he dropped the Amos from his name and is listed somewhere under William Connor but there are too many to be sure. Unfortunately I have misplaced the notes I made years ago which showed that JAMES CONNOR was a Tinsmith/Whitesmith/Brazier on High Street, Fareham, sometime in the 1840s. I am sure I got this information from a Hampshire Directory. Does anyone have any information on JAMES CONNOR and/or any of his children, please? Yvonne in Wales

Hi, Must be the Alfred in Portsmouth. That is fine, just trying to visualize it. Thanks, Edna - Ottawa ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Orchard" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 7:30 AM Subject: Re: [HAM] Alfred St. in Portsea or Odiham? As Liverpud has said, there is an Alfred Road in Portsmouth, it is a part of the designated A3 (London to Portsmouth Road) - an e-mail to the local studies library might determine whether there was either a street of that name formerly in another location on the island, or whether the road was simply changed from street at some point in history. I can find no current Alfred street in Odiham, Hook or anywhere close - although there is another Alfred road in Farnham, which is not far away but over the border into Surrey. John -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of liverpud Sent: 28 March 2008 02:30 To: Hampshire-L Subject: [HAM] Alfred St. in Portsea or Odiham? Is there, was there, an Alfred St. in Portsea (or Odiham) circa 1901? Thanks, Edna - Ottawa For FREE online parish register transcriptions visit the Hampshire OPC at www.knightroots.co.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message For FREE online parish register transcriptions visit the Hampshire OPC at www.knightroots.co.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Bob, I couldn't see it on Streetmap. (;-)) Edna - sunny Ottawa ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 10:54 PM Subject: Re: [HAM] Alfred St. in Portsea or Odiham? Well there is an Alfred Rd still in Portsmouth which is a continuation of Edinburgh rd/Queens street out of the city Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "liverpud" <[email protected]> To: "Hampshire-L" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 2:29 AM Subject: [HAM] Alfred St. in Portsea or Odiham? > Is there, was there, an Alfred St. in Portsea (or Odiham) circa 1901? > > Thanks, > > Edna - Ottawa > For FREE online parish register transcriptions visit the Hampshire OPC at > www.knightroots.co.uk > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message For FREE online parish register transcriptions visit the Hampshire OPC at www.knightroots.co.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Well there is an Alfred Rd still in Portsmouth which is a continuation of Edinburgh rd/Queens street out of the city Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "liverpud" <[email protected]> To: "Hampshire-L" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 2:29 AM Subject: [HAM] Alfred St. in Portsea or Odiham? > Is there, was there, an Alfred St. in Portsea (or Odiham) circa 1901? > > Thanks, > > Edna - Ottawa > For FREE online parish register transcriptions visit the Hampshire OPC at > www.knightroots.co.uk > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Is there, was there, an Alfred St. in Portsea (or Odiham) circa 1901? Thanks, Edna - Ottawa

I have a Frederick Walter George, soldier, born c1860 in Great Marlow, Buckinghamshire. He married a Winchester girl, Annie Mills, in the city in 1887. Eight children born between 1887 and 1898, in Winchester and Fordingbridge. Annie was a niece of my g.grandmother, and I would love to find some descendants. On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Josi Bee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Adopting a likely Phoebe Chivers bapt 1781 as my very own > whose father was Humphrey and who made it to 90 in 1830. > > There is a six generation of the first name Phoebe > in the George family and a link to the Galsworthys. > would be grateful for any contact....The George > family kicked off in Kilgerran Wales c 1774 > and before moving into south London were in St Clement Danes > > Josi > Hastings > > For FREE online parish register transcriptions visit the Hampshire OPC at > www.knightroots.co.uk > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear Dorothy, BANNISTER occupation surname: 'basket-maker'. First recorded as Banastre in 1149 Lincolnshire, as Banester in 1459 Staffordshire. In the 1881 census most heavily concentrated in S. Lancs., next in Hereford & Worcestershire, a few in SE Hants. and I. o. W. BARTLETT surname from forename: a 'double diminutive' from Bartholomew. First recorded as Bertelot 1157 in Norfolk, Bartelot 1296 Sussex. In the 1881 Census it was concentrated in Dorset but with many in the surrounding countries, and Hampshire. I have a few: Bartlett, Emily Kathleen Lucy, of Exbury; married Ernest Prescot HILL of Grasmere 21.04.1887 Exbury Bartlett, John, of Hythe; married Elizabeth STEPHENS 08.10.1839 Fawley; coal and timber merchant, Hythe 1859 Bartlett, John Pemberton, (Rev.) MA, officiating curate 1850, rector 1875, at Exbury Church, residing at The Parsonage House 1850 Bartlett, Julia Maria, of Exbury; married Alexander Kirkpatrick, retired professor of Hebrew, Cambridge, and Canon of Ely 25.06.1884 Exbury Bartlett, Phoebe, married Thomas DOWNER 14.07.1793 Fawley. BURNISTON locative surname from town in N. Yorks. In the 1881 census most heavily concentrated in N. of W. Riding of Yorks., next in rest of Yorks, hardly any in Hants. CULL surname from Old English forename Culla. First recorded as Cule in 1189 records of Glastonbury Abbey. In the 1881 census most heavily concentrated in Hants. and Dorset. I have a few: Cull, Ann, born 1806; dwelt Rowdown; bur Fawley 28.04.1876 Cull, Ann, born 1846; dwelt Hardley; bur Fawley 03.03.1860 Cull, Ann Eliza, born 1847, dwelt Hardley; married Joseph BATH gardner of St Lukes 14.04.1879 Fawley (probably the above) Cull, Anna, of Fawley; married Thomas FOSS of Fawley 03.12.1859 Fawley Cull, Anne, born 1821; dwelt Ipers Bridge; bur Fawley 03.07.1822 Cull, Anne, born near 1838; dwelt Stone; bur Fawley 28.04.1838 (as 'infant ') Cull, Betty, dtr of John & Sarah; bap 14.10.1798; married George OSMAN 31.01.1820 Fawley Cull, Charlotte, born 1803; dwelt Rowdown; bur Fawley 25.05.1845 Cull, Clara, born 1861, dwelt Exbury; married Herbert Horatio CURTIS painter of Exbury 08.12.1896 Exbury Cull, Elizabeth, born 1839, dwelt Fawley; married William PRANGNELL gardener of Sandown 02.11.1868 Fawley Cull, Elizabeth, born 1847, dtr of George & Maria; dwelt next door to Mopley Farm 1851 Cull, Elizabeth, of Exbury; married George Thomas KING penter of Exbury 28.10.1884 Exbury Cull, Ellen, born 1850, dwelt Hardley; married John OSMAN mariner of Hardley 26.12.1882 Fawley Cull, Ellen, born 02.1871, dtr of George & Maria; dwelt next door to Mopley Farm 1871 Cull, Fanny, born 1864, dwelt Fawley; married Edward READ carpenter of St Michaels S'ton 08.04.1888 Fawley Cull, Frederick, born 04.1849; dwelt Mopley; bur Fawley 18.01.1850 Cull, George, born 1816; farm lab. married Maria BUNDAY 07.08.1838 Fawley; dwelt 'next door' to Mopley Farm 1851; children: Elizabeth, William, Ellen Cull, George, born 1841, dwelt Fawley; married Mary BAKER of Fawley 19.11.1863 Fawley Cull, Hannah, born 1769; dwelt Rowdown; bur Fawley 13.06.1839 Cull, Henry, of Exbury; married Clara Ann SMITH of Exbury 02.06.1860 Exbury Cull, James, illegitimate son of Sarah; bap 06.12.1800 Fawley Cull, James, of Fawley; married Eliza WARN of Fawley 17.05.1846 Fawley Cull, John, born 1753; dwelt Langley Fawley; bur Fawley 08.01.1829 Cull, John, born about 1769; married Mary SAWYER 27.02.1794 Fawley; child: Betty Cull, John, married Anna COOPER 02.01.1837 Fawley Cull, John, born 1843; dwelt Mopley; bur Fawley 11.01.1850 Cull, Joseph, born 1871, gardener of Fawley; married Elizabeth COTTON of Fawley 17.11.1897 Fawley Cull, Josiah, born 1804; married Charlotte ENGLAND 20.05.1830 Fawley; dwelt Hardley; bur Fawley 14.02.1872 Cull, Josiah, of Rowdown, married Eliza CAVELL of Cadland Quay 08.02.1855 Fawley Cull, Louisa, (nee ?); married Richard about 1832 Lyndhurst Cull, Louise, dtr of Richard & Louisa, bap 29.01.1832 Lyndhurst Cull, Maria, (nee ?), born 1816; married George about 1846; dwelt next door to Mopley Farm 1851 Cull, Maria, of Fawley; married George NEWMAN bailiff of South Stoneham 26.12.1883 Fawley (same day as her sis Mary & his bro Wm.) Cull, Mary, born 1776; dwelt Langley Fawley; bur Fawley 03.02.1836 Cull, Mary, married William BUNDAY 17.01.1822 Fawley Cull, Mary, married Joseph SAWYER 22.11.1807 Fawley Cull, Mary, born 1831,.dwelt Rowdown;.bur Fawley 11.11.1866 Cull, Mary, born 1844; dwelt Badminston; bur Fawley 04.11.1915 Cull, Mary, of Fawley; married William NEWMAN engineer of Southampton 26.12.1883 (same day as his bro Geo. & her sis Maria) Cull, Richard, labourer of Lyndhurst; married Louisa (?) about 1832; child Louis Cull, Robert, born 1751; dwelt Rowdown; bur Fawley 07.02.1830 Cull, Robert, born 1796; dwelt Rowdown; bur Fawley 26.01.1879 Cull, Robert, 'of extra parochial parish district of Rowdown' married Hannah KERNIL 29.07.1819 Fawley Cull, Robert, married Anne WARD 28.10.1826 Fawley Cull, Robert Bertram, overseer of Exbury, born 1869; married Fanny Maria HEATH of Exbury 05.09.1893 Exbury Cull, Sarah, (nee ?); born about 1776; married John 27.02.1794 Fawley; children: Betty by John, James illegitimate Cull, Sarah, married William OSEY 12.11.1810 Fawley Cull, William, born 1814; dwelt Mopley; bur Fawley 23.02.1843 Cull, William, born 06.1834; dwelt Stone; bur Fawley 26.10.1834 Cull, William, born 1846, son of george & Maria; dwelt next door to Mopley Farm 1851 Cull, William, of Eling; married Sarah COTTON of Hardley 25.10.1845 Fawley FLUX possibly locative from Flusche 'dweller by the swamp'. In the 1881 census most heavily concentrated in W. Sussex and I.o.W., next in Hants. GILLEY/GILLY surname from forename: thought to be 1) feminine form of Giles or 2) pet form of Gillian. First recorded as Gilia in Warwickshire under the Danelaw, as Gyly in Somerset 1327, as Gyly/Gyli in Cumberland 1332. In the 1881 Census the GILLEYs were most heavily concentrated in south Devon, next in Hampshire. The GILLYs were most heavily concentrated in east Cornwall and west Devon - hardly any in Hampshire. LANHAM is probably from Langham, a locative surname from various counties inc. Dorset (1201). In the 1881 census most heavily concentrated in Hants. & Wilts. with another group in S. Essex. SEALY from Old English feminine Sealig 'happy; blessed', first recorded as Seli in Lincs. 1200 and Herefordshire 1205. In the 1881 census most heavily concentrated in W. Somerset, hardly any in Hants. SHORT descriptive, meant what it said, first recorded in Dorset 1176, Sussex 1327. In the 1881 census most heavily concentrated in Northumberland and Durham, with another locus in E. Devon. Some in Hants, a few in I.o.W. I only have one: Short, Ellen, of Exbury; married John PEACH widower baker of Fawley 19.09.1900 Exbury (2nd wife) WHISTLER occupational from Old English hwistlere 'piper, flautist'. First recorded in Somerset 1243. In the 1881 census most heavily concentrated on S. coast of Essex, many in Soffolf, some in Berkshire, hardly any in Hants. I'm only interested in 'The Waterside' (area sandwiched between the New Forest and Southampton Water) so this list is necessarily skewed. Regards, David

Adopting a likely Phoebe Chivers bapt 1781 as my very own whose father was Humphrey and who made it to 90 in 1830. There is a six generation of the first name Phoebe in the George family and a link to the Galsworthys. would be grateful for any contact....The George family kicked off in Kilgerran Wales c 1774 and before moving into south London were in St Clement Danes Josi Hastings

Hi, A "cousin" and I are on the trail of WJH (1854-94) extended family. Is it possible to actually view the birth details, whether on microfilm or cards, at the Portsmouth RO of a birth of William Alfred Hatler (think it should be Hellyer) 2nd Qtr 2b 420 Portsea and see who the parents were -- either WJH and/or EllenBearman? Cheers, Edna - Ottawa

i have a death cetificate for Eliza Russen , died 1901 in London county Lunatic Asylum. I am trying to see if this is Eliza Russen nee Butt born in Romsey and married to George Russen, also of Romsey.In 1891 census they were in Romsey.Does anyone researching the Butt family have Eliza in their tree?.Janice Bispham

Gilley/Gilly Bartlett Short Lanham Bannister Burniston Whistler Flux Sealy Cull Interested in all/any locations. Thank you. Dorothy Morrissey Te Aroha, NZ Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com

I have today, finally found a death certificate for my 3x Great Grandfather, William Harris who died in Holy Rood House, Southampton. Can anyone please tell me whether this was a Hospital? Margaret

Hi Cher - might this be their marriage: Hartley Wintney Sep Q 1907 Henry EADER Elizabeth VICKERY Volume 2c Page 449 Actual image is blurry but seems like EADES to me. Hartley Wintney reg district includes Elvetham. Based on this I found an Elizabeth VICKERY in Elvetham in 1901: Elvetham road, Hartford Bridge Elizabeth VICKERY 35 Wid/gen dom svnt. B Murrell Green, Hampshire Fred 11. B Elvetham Emily 7. B Elvetham 1891 entry for this family: William VICKERY 27 Ag lab. B Elvetham Elisabeth 24. B Odiham Frederick 1. B Elvetham William VICKERY appears to have married Elizabeth BIRMINGHAM in 1889. In 1871/1881 she is in Odiham - spellings vary: BURMINGHAM and BURNINGHAM. Murrell Green appears to be about half way between Odiham and Elvetham. Hope this is useful. Cheers, Patsy - New Zealand. Subject: [HAM] New lineage VICORY > Well don't think I'm going to go back any further with my EADES lineage, > so am now going to follow some of the sons marriages > > Am looking to find any info on Elizabeth VICORY the only info I have, is > this Born 1867 and died 1947 she was married to Henry EADES of Elvetham, > he being the brother of my grandfather. This info in family bible, but > that is all there is on her. A visit to their grave at Hartford Bridge, > showed me that Henry was indeed married to an Elizabeth. > > Anyone else on the VICORY/VICKERY sp vars got her please? > > many thnx Cher >

Edna - Unless you're sure he went by horse and cart, he may have used the very good railway service between the two towns, either via Petersfield or via Chichester. My guess is that with a horse and cart, it would have meant an overnight stop, as 30 miles is quite a way for a horse with a load. 30 miles would have been a good distance just on horseback. There are some pretty steep hills between the two places, whichever way he went. Tony Petersfield On 23/03/2008, liverpud <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi, Just a question -- > using the old roads, circa 1894, how many miles and how long > would it take to travel by horse n' cart from Southsea to Midhurst? >

Well Midhurst is about 30 Miles from Southsea so taking it that a horse walks about the pace of a human at 2 mph non stop it would take approx 15 hrs I Think LOL Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "liverpud" <[email protected]> To: "Hampshire-L"