On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 14:10:06 +0100, you wrote: >Hello Patsy, Hello Rose > >I have checked the Hampshire marriage index and there are two marriages for >a John Miller to a Charlotte: Thanks for checking Rose it is most appreciated and I guess they did not marry in Hampshire so its back to searching Dorset and surrounding areas. >I have had a quick look at the 1841 census but I could not find a Charlotte >Miller age 42 +/- 5 years together with a John of suitable age. They are there in Woolland John of the county Charlotte not. HO107/283/23 I dont think this search is going to be easy (sigh) :o) thanks again for your help cheers Patsy www.genebug.net

I have Trimmers from 1740's to 1880's, the brewing family are these the ones Irene ----- Original Message ----- From: "spinninglilac" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 4:51 PM Subject: [HAM] Hampshire Interests > Spring cleaning time.... > I have most of these from 1713 - 1900's > EADES/EDES/EEDES/EDES/EEDS/ etc including EAVES > POULTER/POLTER etc > PULLEN > TRIMMER > SCHOFIELD/SCOFFEL/SCUFFLE etc > > Anyone have any EADES or POULTERS let me know as I run a small group for > each of these surnames > > many thnx Cher > > > > For FREE online parish register transcriptions visit the Hampshire OPC at > www.knightroots.co.uk > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Yvonne: Although not conected with your family the following information might help. My Great Grandmother was born Sarah Jane CORNER in Fairlight Sussex, but is transcribed on the IGI as CONNER. Funnily enough she married and lived in Fareham Could it be that the reverse has happened in your case Kind regards; Dave Hackett Researching HACKETT COUSINS PLUMMER ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yvonne Courtine" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 11:14 AM Subject: [HAM] CONNOR Is anyone researching the name CONNOR in Hampshire, possibly the Fareham area? I have JAMES CONNOR who married Mary AnnCouzens on 6 October 1817 in Fareham. They had the following children baptised in Fareham (all info from IGI): MARY ANN, 1820 (my ancestor); JAMES EDWARD, 1822; JOHN ARTIMUS, 1824; AGNES AUGUSTA, 1826; AMOS WILLIAM, 1829, STEPHEN, 831. Apart from Mary Ann, the only other information I have is for Agnes Augusta, on the 1851 census in Liverpool with her uncle and aunt, John & Charlotte Shields. She subsequently married in Liverpool. There is a marriage for John Artimus on Free BMD in 1846 in Southampton, partner unknown, but no definite census listing. I have no definite information on the other children, except for AMOS WILLIAM, who was a witness at the wedding of his niece ELIZA EDMUNDS, daughter of Mary Ann and husband Richard Edmunds, on 12 May 1867 in Shoreditch, London. It puzzles me that I cannot find him on any censuses. I suspect that he dropped the Amos from his name and is listed somewhere under William Connor but there are too many to be sure. Unfortunately I have misplaced the notes I made years ago which showed that JAMES CONNOR was a Tinsmith/Whitesmith/Brazier on High Street, Fareham, sometime in the 1840s. I am sure I got this information from a Hampshire Directory. Does anyone have any information on JAMES CONNOR and/or any of his children, please? Yvonne in Wales

Edna asked about Alfred Street in Portsea. Edna is always keen to help others on this list, so I think she deserves some help in return. Alfred ROAD is the road that passes on the north side of the RC Cathedral from the junction of Queen Street and Edinburgh Road to join Unicorn Road. However this is not Alfred Street. Alfred Street ran north from Charlotte Street to New Row at the end of Thomas Street. It ran behind St Agatha’s Church, parallel to Conway Street, which ran in front of St Agatha’s. This area was a real slum in the 19th century, full of pubs, prostitutes and poverty, and into it came a remarkable man, Father Dolling, whose mission was to rescue souls, particularly the young. Look him up in Wikipedia and then take the link to the book “Father Dolling - A Memoir by Joseph Clayton” . Wonderfully the whole book is on line! It will give you a wonderful insight into the area and Dolling’s fight with the established church. I’m sure you will enjoy it, as will anybody interested in Portsmouth history. It was Dolling who established St Agatha’s. The area was terribly devastated in the blitz but somehow St Agatha’s survived, serving as a Naval Store for many years. It even survived Portsmouth Corporation’s development of the area (unlike Alfred Street) , although they criminally knocked down the Lady Chapel to run the new road Market Way alongside it opposite the notorious concrete Tricorn. St Agatha’s was splendid, and the superb sgraffito work by Heywood Sumner is nationally famous (and probably on line). The area is being redeveloped again as the site for the new shopping centre The Northern Quarter. Michael Dummer (researching all Dummers)

Hi Lynn and Rose That ties in with his entry on the 1851 census, as mentioned earlier, but no sign of him under either of those names in 1841, that I can see. Kate -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rose Conway Sent: 30 March 2008 14:18 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [HAM] new member interests No connections Lynn, but I can confirm that Charles Hardy married Jane Moss on 1 Dec 1834 at Overton. Only difference is that Charles has been transcribed as HARDEN and not HARDY. Regards Rose ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Reesor" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 12:43 AM Subject: [HAM] new member interests >I have just found a family connection in Hampshire. > > Charles HARDY born about 1809 in Isle of Wight. He married Jane Moss (I > believe in Overton), and had a number of children in Overton before moving > to Somerset. The children are born in Hampshire are: George, William, > Leonard and Jane, and they were born between 1835 adn 1841. I'm descended > from Charles, born 1844 in Taunton, Somerset. > > I would love to hear from anyone who might have a connection. Thanks. > > Lynn in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada > For FREE online parish register transcriptions visit the Hampshire OPC at www.knightroots.co.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Patsy, thank you so much for this information. I have tried in vain to find the Connor family on censuses on Ancestry, trying all possible combinations of names, even just the name CONNOR living in Fareham. Still nothing. What am I doing wrong, I wonder? If it is not too much trouble, could you please give me the piece and folio numbers and I will try with that. Thanks for your help. Yvonne in Wales

Hi Dorothy, John CULL married Jane HARRISON 1786 in the parish of Millbrook. Regards Rose ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy Morrissey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 1:51 AM Subject: Re: [HAM] Hampshire interests > > > CULL: My only connections here are John, married Jane Harrison, and > daughter Jane b1788 South Stoneham. I know of no other members of the > family so some of those you have listed could very well be connected. > >

No connections Lynn, but I can confirm that Charles Hardy married Jane Moss on 1 Dec 1834 at Overton. Only difference is that Charles has been transcribed as HARDEN and not HARDY. Regards Rose ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Reesor" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 12:43 AM Subject: [HAM] new member interests >I have just found a family connection in Hampshire. > > Charles HARDY born about 1809 in Isle of Wight. He married Jane Moss (I > believe in Overton), and had a number of children in Overton before moving > to Somerset. The children are born in Hampshire are: George, William, > Leonard and Jane, and they were born between 1835 adn 1841. I'm descended > from Charles, born 1844 in Taunton, Somerset. > > I would love to hear from anyone who might have a connection. Thanks. > > Lynn in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada >

The new integrated Archives and Local Studies service will open at Hampshire Record Office on Monday 14 April but there is an Archives and Local Studies preview on Wednesday 9 April, 2pm-7pm All welcome to drop in and explore the new search room Take Care Linda & Tony Knight

Hi again Lynn Have you got access to www.ancestry.co.uk ? If not, let me know and I'll send you some census images - your Charles HARDY (1809) doesn't appear to be too sure about where he was born - he lists different places on every census that I've found him on. Not very helpful :-) and to make matters worse he is shown as Charles HARDEN on the 1851 census. Nice little puzzle for you. What made me suspicious is that there is a Charles HARDY christened in Buriton Hampshire in 1809 on the IGI - see http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=igi/search_I GI.asp&clear_form=true Hope this helps, rather than causes more trouble. Kate -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lynn Reesor Sent: 29 March 2008 23:43 To: [email protected] Subject: [HAM] new member interests I have just found a family connection in Hampshire. Charles HARDY born about 1809 in Isle of Wight. He married Jane Moss (I believe in Overton), and had a number of children in Overton before moving to Somerset. The children are born in Hampshire are: George, William, Leonard and Jane, and they were born between 1835 adn 1841. I'm descended from Charles, born 1844 in Taunton, Somerset. I would love to hear from anyone who might have a connection. Thanks. Lynn in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada _________________________________________________________________ Send a smile, make someone laugh, have some fun! Start now! http://g.msn.ca/ca55/208 For FREE online parish register transcriptions visit the Hampshire OPC at www.knightroots.co.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Lynn Congratulations on finding another generation :-) If your Charles HARDY (1809) was born on the Isle of Wight, it would be well worth joining the Isle of Wight group ... http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/ISLE-OF-WIGHT.html or at least checking their archives. I've just checked my huge RANN tree from the island, but sadly no link with HARDY. Also, have a look at this site... http://www.isle-of-wight-fhs.co.uk/ and particularly the BMD Index as they have a searchable index of all the IoW records from 1837 to 2002 (2004 for Deaths). Although this doesn't go back to 1809, it may give you some cousins etc. There's also a huge card index of earlier records at the IoW Record Office in Newport, so you could try asking if anyone would take look for you next time they're in there. It's a very friendly group, if a little quiet at present. Kate always seeking my RANNcestors -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lynn Reesor Sent: 29 March 2008 23:43 To: [email protected] Subject: [HAM] new member interests I have just found a family connection in Hampshire. Charles HARDY born about 1809 in Isle of Wight. He married Jane Moss (I believe in Overton), and had a number of children in Overton before moving to Somerset. The children are born in Hampshire are: George, William, Leonard and Jane, and they were born between 1835 adn 1841. I'm descended from Charles, born 1844 in Taunton, Somerset. I would love to hear from anyone who might have a connection. Thanks. Lynn in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada _________________________________________________________________ Send a smile, make someone laugh, have some fun! Start now! http://g.msn.ca/ca55/208 For FREE online parish register transcriptions visit the Hampshire OPC at www.knightroots.co.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you, Rose, but not mine unfortunately. Regards Dorothy Morrissey Te Aroha, NZ Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com

Hi, You can take these FLUXs if you like.... Edna - Ottawa ---- Descendants of William Flux 1 William Flux b: circ. 1852 in Portsmouth . +Emma Harriett Hellyer b: 1851 in Landport, Hampshire m: 1871 in St. James, Milton, Portsea ... 2 William A Flux b: circ. 1872 in Portsmouth ... 2 Emma J. Flux b: circ. 1875 in Portsmouth ... 2 Kate Flux b: circ. 1876 in Portsmouth ... 2 George Flux b: circ. 1880 in Portsmouth ... 2 Henry Flux b: circ. 1884 in Portsmouth --- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rose Conway" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 4:28 PM Subject: Re: [HAM] Hampshire Interests Hello Dorothy, I have an Elizabeth CULL born about 1784 . She married a 3 x great grandfather of mine called James Serle. They married at South Stoneham on 11 Nov 1810. ( Also I was at school with a Gillian FLUX in the 1960's in Southampton) Regards Rose ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy Morrissey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 10:34 PM Subject: [HAM] Hampshire Interests > Gilley/Gilly > Bartlett > Short > Lanham > Bannister > Burniston > Whistler > Flux > Sealy > Cull > > Interested in all/any locations. Thank you. > > Dorothy Morrissey > Te Aroha, NZ > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com > For FREE online parish register transcriptions visit the Hampshire OPC at > www.knightroots.co.uk > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > For FREE online parish register transcriptions visit the Hampshire OPC at www.knightroots.co.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Listers Can anyone help please? Looking for the marriage of Charlotte ? to a John Miller probably 1818 to 1831. Charlotte was noted as being born in Overton about 1798. John Miller was from Woolland in Dorset. but the marriage didnt take place there so hoping it was maybe in Charlotte's parish. Nothing on the IGI either sadly. thanks Patsy www.genebug.net

Spring cleaning time.... I have most of these from 1713 - 1900's EADES/EDES/EEDES/EDES/EEDS/ etc including EAVES POULTER/POLTER etc PULLEN TRIMMER SCHOFIELD/SCOFFEL/SCUFFLE etc Anyone have any EADES or POULTERS let me know as I run a small group for each of these surnames many thnx Cher

Hello Dorothy, I have an Elizabeth CULL born about 1784 . She married a 3 x great grandfather of mine called James Serle. They married at South Stoneham on 11 Nov 1810. ( Also I was at school with a Gillian FLUX in the 1960's in Southampton) Regards Rose ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy Morrissey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 10:34 PM Subject: [HAM] Hampshire Interests > Gilley/Gilly > Bartlett > Short > Lanham > Bannister > Burniston > Whistler > Flux > Sealy > Cull > > Interested in all/any locations. Thank you. > > Dorothy Morrissey > Te Aroha, NZ > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com > For FREE online parish register transcriptions visit the Hampshire OPC at > www.knightroots.co.uk > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear David Thank you very much indeed for all that helpful surname information, and especially for your trouble in setting it all out. Unfortunately very little of it relates to my particular people, but never mind – information often comes handy when you least expect it to do so. Here is what I have established which may be of some interest to you or someone else, some time in the future. BURNISTON: I am well acquainted with the N Yks branch of this name – definitely my folk. A group of them migrated to Hants early 1800s and from then on used BURNISTON and BANNISTER interchangeably. BARTLETT: Main interest is Henry born Southampton c1840, son of William and Mary, who I believe came from Brighton. The entire family seem to have had an aversion to registration. CULL: My only connections here are John, married Jane Harrison, and daughter Jane b1788 South Stoneham. I know of no other members of the family so some of those you have listed could very well be connected. FLUX: We believe this branch of the family came from the Comte de Fleurs from Normandy who settled on the IOW after being released from prison there following the Battle of Agincourt 1415. GILLEY/GILLY: I have a Devon contact but my family is definitely not connected, coming from Berwickshire as GILLIE, and possibly earlier as GILLES. LANHAM: Yes, definitely interchangeable with Langham. All of mine were in Southampton by 1810. No information further back. SEALY/SEALEY: Interesting – I shall chase up the W. Somerset angle. SHORT: Mine were all in Portsea/Southampton since 1790. WHISTLER: I have never come across that meaning, but it makes sense. They died out in Hants after the mid-1800s, thanks to females and non-marrying males. Once again, David, many thanks for your work. Much appreciated. Kind regards Dorothy Morrissey Te Aroha, NZ Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com

I have just found a family connection in Hampshire. Charles HARDY born about 1809 in Isle of Wight. He married Jane Moss (I believe in Overton), and had a number of children in Overton before moving to Somerset. The children are born in Hampshire are: George, William, Leonard and Jane, and they were born between 1835 adn 1841. I'm descended from Charles, born 1844 in Taunton, Somerset. I would love to hear from anyone who might have a connection. Thanks. Lynn in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada _________________________________________________________________ Send a smile, make someone laugh, have some fun! Start now! http://g.msn.ca/ca55/208

Hi Lynda Could it be Marlea? There is still a house called that now. If you search for Church Lane and Sway on the Royal Mail Postcode search at http://postcode.royalmail.com/portal/rm/postcodefinder;jsessionid=NSTHIHHPHF FFOFB2IGIUQEQ?catId=400145&gear=postcode you'll see it there on the list of properties. If you look at this website http://www.houseprices.co.uk/church-lane-sway-lymington-so41/ you'll see that it was sold for £168,000 in 2003. Hope that helps, Kate seeking my RANNcestors everywhere -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of ljwatts Sent: 29 March 2008 14:01 To: Hampshire email list Subject: [HAM] Sway New Forest Can anyone tell me if there was a house called "Morlea" or similar in Church Lane, Sway, in the 1940's or 1950's ? Many thanks, Lynda. For FREE online parish register transcriptions visit the Hampshire OPC at www.knightroots.co.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can anyone tell me if there was a house called "Morlea" or similar in Church Lane, Sway, in the 1940's or 1950's ? Many thanks, Lynda.