Rosalind - do you have a scan of this? If so, send it to me at [email protected] and I'll have a go at deciphering it. If not, do you have the internet source address it came from (as I can't find it)? Best wishes Tony Holkham, Petersfield On 30/04/2008, Rosalind Read <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, Is anyone good at reading old handwriting? I would be interested to > know where a John Whlth (supposed to be WELCH!) was born.On the 1851 > census he is listed as being born in Hants which I take as Hampshire and > then there is another place name beginning with what I think is B but the > rest of it I can't read. Can anyone decipher it for me?! This may help!Source > Citation: > Class: HO107; Piece: 1475; Folio: 544; Page: 43; GSU roll: 87798 Many > thanks and good luck! Rosalind > > > -- > Want an e-mail address like mine? > Get a free e-mail account today at www.mail.com! > > For FREE online parish register transcriptions visit the Hampshire OPC at www.knightroots.co.uk > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello This is my first entry and hoping someone is researching the Trigg and Prater families from Kingsclere/Ecchinswell and Odiham. Robert Prater b1800 Kingsclere and Elizabeth Stocker, b.Kingsclere lived in Kingsclere. Robert Prater's parents and his 9 brothers and sisters continued to live in and around Kingsclere.Third daughter Mary Prater married Daniel Trigg from Potbridge/Odiham. Daniel Trigg was the youngest child of John and Sarah Trigg of Odiham. All contacts welcome. Happy to share what information I have already collected. Diane Evans - Western Australia.

http://www.thelocalchannel.co.uk/pentonmewsey/home.aspx -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josi Bee Sent: 30 April 2008 11:43 To: [email protected] Subject: [HAM] Penton Mewsey Please could anyone lead me to some pictures of this vallage? Its a heck of a way from hastings.. I would be grateful many thanks Josi Birkbeck For FREE online parish register transcriptions visit the Hampshire OPC at www.knightroots.co.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Please could anyone lead me to some pictures of this vallage? Its a heck of a way from hastings.. I would be grateful many thanks Josi Birkbeck

I often refer to the Genuki Gazeteer - http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/Gazetteer/ - when trying to decipher place names. I can usually make out the first letter or two, or the last few letters, and then if you have the county, you can do a search on partial words/place names. By process of elimination and looking at the original transcript, I've had pretty good success in figuring it out. Sharon Victoria, BC, canada -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kate Burhouse Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 7:19 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [HAM] Help please with illegible place name! Hi That is difficult! Ancestry show it as Bristol, but I don't think it is because that isn't in Hampshire. For those who can't find the image using the Class etc. John is in St George Hanover Square, Middlesex and born about 1811, wife Martha and WELCH is spelt Wlhth. Hope someone else has some ideas Kate -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rosalind Read Sent: 30 April 2008 12:54 To: [email protected] Subject: [HAM] Help please with illegible place name! Hi, Is anyone good at reading old handwriting? I would be interested to know where a John Whlth (supposed to be WELCH!) was born.On the 1851 census he is listed as being born in Hants which I take as Hampshire and then there is another place name beginning with what I think is B but the rest of it I can't read. Can anyone decipher it for me?! This may help!Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1475; Folio: 544; Page: 43; GSU roll: 87798 Many thanks and good luck! Rosalind -- Want an e-mail address like mine? Get a free e-mail account today at www.mail.com! For FREE online parish register transcriptions visit the Hampshire OPC at www.knightroots.co.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message For FREE online parish register transcriptions visit the Hampshire OPC at www.knightroots.co.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Is anyone good at reading old handwriting? I would be interested to know where a John Whlth (supposed to be WELCH!) was born.On the 1851 census he is listed as being born in Hants which I take as Hampshire and then there is another place name beginning with what I think is B but the rest of it I can't read. Can anyone decipher it for me?! This may help!Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1475; Folio: 544; Page: 43; GSU roll: 87798 Many thanks and good luck! Rosalind -- Want an e-mail address like mine? Get a free e-mail account today at www.mail.com!

I believe I have found the correct William Bell with the wife Charlotte. He married Charlotte Ray and I have located the marriage. Thanks for your help. Marilyn ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 23:29:49 -0400 From: "Marilyn" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [HAM] HAMPSHIRE Digest, Vol 3, Issue 145 To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" You have found one of the William/Charlotte Bell families. I do know that one of the William & charlottes were in Salisbury for a bit of time. They are a very confusing lot. They both many children of the same name as well. I think it is Charlotte Ray that is the one I am looking for. Thanks. Marilyn Message: 3 Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:05:30 +0100 From: "Bill Barber" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [HAM] Bell look up and help To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I can not find a William Bell born Southampton born 1803 on the 1851 or 1861 census with or without a Charlotte with the correct age, nearest is William Bell widow born Cadnam 1805. I have found on the 1851 a William Bell 43 (1807/8) born alresford with wife Charlotte 44 (1806/7)born Southampton, son James 10 born Salisbury Wiltshire. Bill -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Marilyn Sent: 28 April 2008 15:32 To: [email protected] Subject: [HAM] Bell look up and help I am having some difficulty sorting out two marriages. Can skp please look up the following on the 1851 census and/or the Hampshire marriage index William Bell born 1803 in Southampton and married to Charlotte? Born 1805 and died 1861 William Bell born 1807 in Alresford and married to Charlotte born 1810 and died 1884 Southampton There is quite a confusion between these two couples which has led us into two entirely different directions and all of claiming the same children. I think the first one listed born 1805 Charlotte Muxworthy and the second one listed Charlotte born 1810 is Charlotte Ray. I would be most appreciative and skp or persons could help sort out this dilemma. Thanks, Marilyn No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.5/1401 - Release Date: 4/28/2008 7:18 AM ------------------------------ To contact the HAMPSHIRE list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the HAMPSHIRE mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of HAMPSHIRE Digest, Vol 3, Issue 146 ***************************************** No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.6/1403 - Release Date: 4/29/2008 7:26 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.6/1403 - Release Date: 4/29/2008 7:26 AM

You have found one of the William/Charlotte Bell families. I do know that one of the William & charlottes were in Salisbury for a bit of time. They are a very confusing lot. They both many children of the same name as well. I think it is Charlotte Ray that is the one I am looking for. Thanks. Marilyn Message: 3 Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:05:30 +0100 From: "Bill Barber" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [HAM] Bell look up and help To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I can not find a William Bell born Southampton born 1803 on the 1851 or 1861 census with or without a Charlotte with the correct age, nearest is William Bell widow born Cadnam 1805. I have found on the 1851 a William Bell 43 (1807/8) born alresford with wife Charlotte 44 (1806/7)born Southampton, son James 10 born Salisbury Wiltshire. Bill -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Marilyn Sent: 28 April 2008 15:32 To: [email protected] Subject: [HAM] Bell look up and help I am having some difficulty sorting out two marriages. Can skp please look up the following on the 1851 census and/or the Hampshire marriage index William Bell born 1803 in Southampton and married to Charlotte? Born 1805 and died 1861 William Bell born 1807 in Alresford and married to Charlotte born 1810 and died 1884 Southampton There is quite a confusion between these two couples which has led us into two entirely different directions and all of claiming the same children. I think the first one listed born 1805 Charlotte Muxworthy and the second one listed Charlotte born 1810 is Charlotte Ray. I would be most appreciative and skp or persons could help sort out this dilemma. Thanks, Marilyn No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.5/1401 - Release Date: 4/28/2008 7:18 AM

The ducks were/are in the harbour. Have a look at Google Earth and you'll see a photo of the swans on the harbour. Lovely peaceful spot! Kate -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ken Sent: 28 April 2008 23:18 To: [email protected] Subject: [HAM] Ducks at Emsworth You learn something every day, I did'nt know there was a duckpond at Emsworth. Mind you in the 17th C. I expect the ducks fed THEM. For FREE online parish register transcriptions visit the Hampshire OPC at www.knightroots.co.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You learn something every day, I did'nt know there was a duckpond at Emsworth. Mind you in the 17th C. I expect the ducks fed THEM.

Hi Gail and Ken I loved this thought too - except I was wondering if they all enjoyed feeding the ducks as children, as did my daughter in the early 1990s. Emsworth was one of our favourite outings when we lived in Hampshire - she wasn't pleased when we moved to Devon, because we couldn't find anywhere to feed the ducks! Simple pleasures. Kate -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gail Collins Sent: 28 April 2008 02:06 To: "Ken"; [email protected] Subject: [HAM] emsworth-havant that is a lovely thought Ken - one I never thought of before we are always in such a rush to find people that we don't sit long enough to smell the roses. thanks GAIL in Ontario Hi Gail, No relatives in common i,m afraid, but all my Padwick, Sainsbury and Hall famlies originated in the Emsworth- Havant area in the 1600's.....no doubt they had a chat together at the local supermarket, small world eh ! Ken. For FREE online parish register transcriptions visit the Hampshire OPC at www.knightroots.co.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, Is anyone related to Hugh Hames and Fanny Ranger who married 24 NOV 1795 at St. Marys, Longstock. Does anyone have the Parish Register copy of the Marriage , please. Thanks Lyn Brown in Griffith NSW

Would like to ask a favour of any members living in the Auckland NZ area to look up living relatives, please. Please contact me. Rick Marion [email protected]

Many thanks for that Southampton web site. I was born and bred in Southampton, but now living in Scotland, so the site is a most interesting read. Vicki

I can not find a William Bell born Southampton born 1803 on the 1851 or 1861 census with or without a Charlotte with the correct age, nearest is William Bell widow born Cadnam 1805. I have found on the 1851 a William Bell 43 (1807/8) born alresford with wife Charlotte 44 (1806/7)born Southampton, son James 10 born Salisbury Wiltshire. Bill -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Marilyn Sent: 28 April 2008 15:32 To: [email protected] Subject: [HAM] Bell look up and help I am having some difficulty sorting out two marriages. Can skp please look up the following on the 1851 census and/or the Hampshire marriage index William Bell born 1803 in Southampton and married to Charlotte? Born 1805 and died 1861 William Bell born 1807 in Alresford and married to Charlotte born 1810 and died 1884 Southampton There is quite a confusion between these two couples which has led us into two entirely different directions and all of claiming the same children. I think the first one listed born 1805 Charlotte Muxworthy and the second one listed Charlotte born 1810 is Charlotte Ray. I would be most appreciative and skp or persons could help sort out this dilemma. Thanks, Marilyn No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.5/1400 - Release Date: 4/27/2008 9:39 AM For FREE online parish register transcriptions visit the Hampshire OPC at www.knightroots.co.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.3/1390 - Release Date: 21/04/2008 16:23

I am having some difficulty sorting out two marriages. Can skp please look up the following on the 1851 census and/or the Hampshire marriage index William Bell born 1803 in Southampton and married to Charlotte? Born 1805 and died 1861 William Bell born 1807 in Alresford and married to Charlotte born 1810 and died 1884 Southampton There is quite a confusion between these two couples which has led us into two entirely different directions and all of claiming the same children. I think the first one listed born 1805 Charlotte Muxworthy and the second one listed Charlotte born 1810 is Charlotte Ray. I would be most appreciative and skp or persons could help sort out this dilemma. Thanks, Marilyn No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.5/1400 - Release Date: 4/27/2008 9:39 AM

The site http://www.plimsoll.org/ has some good material on Southampton, especially the Street Directories. My father was born at 9 St Mark's Rd in 1930. In the 1931 directory this is CH Lewis, fried fish shop. This confirms the family tale that my father's parents lived in a room above a fish & chip shop. I wonder if the building is still there. Can anyone help ? Many thanks. Francis Auckland, NZ

that is a lovely thought Ken - one I never thought of before we are always in such a rush to find people that we don't sit long enough to smell the roses. thanks GAIL in Ontario Hi Gail, No relatives in common i,m afraid, but all my Padwick, Sainsbury and Hall famlies originated in the Emsworth- Havant area in the 1600's.....no doubt they had a chat together at the local supermarket, small world eh ! Ken.

Have a look on Google maps. It looks as though St Marks Rd has become a small cul de sac off Nicholls Rd. Most of this area has been redeveloped in the past 20 years, under inner city slum clearance schemes, so I doubt if the original building is still there. Regards Rose ----- Original Message ----- From: "Francis Payne" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 1:06 PM Subject: [HAM] St Mark's Rd, Southampton > The site http://www.plimsoll.org/ has some good material on Southampton, > especially the Street Directories. > > My father was born at 9 St Mark's Rd in 1930. In the 1931 directory this > is > CH Lewis, fried fish shop. This confirms the family tale that my father's > parents lived in a room above a fish & chip shop. > > I wonder if the building is still there. Can anyone help ? > > Many thanks. > > Francis > Auckland, NZ > > For FREE online parish register transcriptions visit the Hampshire OPC at > www.knightroots.co.uk > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Just Google.... Edna - Ottawa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Francis Payne" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 8:06 AM Subject: [HAM] St Mark's Rd, Southampton The site http://www.plimsoll.org/ has some good material on Southampton, especially the Street Directories. My father was born at 9 St Mark's Rd in 1930. In the 1931 directory this is CH Lewis, fried fish shop. This confirms the family tale that my father's parents lived in a room above a fish & chip shop. I wonder if the building is still there. Can anyone help ? Many thanks. Francis Auckland, NZ For FREE online parish register transcriptions visit the Hampshire OPC at www.knightroots.co.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message