Hi David, My Hellyers were mainly from Gosport and Portsmouth areas. At this time, I do not see any connection to yours. (;-)) Edna - Ottawa ----- Original Message ----- From: "dubhda2" <david.dowd@btinternet.com> To: <hampshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [HAM] The New Inn, Midhurst Dear Edna of Ottawa, there were a few Hellyers and similar in my neck of the woods:/ / / (Hellier, Helyear, Hellyer, Hillear, Hillier, Hillyear, Hillyer, Old English ‘slater, tiler’)/ Hellier, Ann, (nee ?); married Thomas about 1786 Beaulieu Hellier, Elizabeth, dtr of Thomas & Ann, bap 10.05.1787 Beaulieu Hellier, Thomas, 'partnered' Elizabeth RAWLINGS in Beaulieu about 1784; child: Thomas Hellier, Thomas, married Ann (?) about 1786 Beaulieu; child Elizabeth Hellier, Thomas, bastard son of Thomas & Elizabeth RAWLINGS, bap 19.10.1784 Beaulieu Helyear, Frances, born about 1788; married William LASHLEY about 1806 Hellyer, Alinson (sic), dtr of Thomas & Harriot of Beaulieu; bap. 11.04.1813 Hellyer, Harriot, (nee ?); married Thomas of Beaulieu about 1812 Hellyer, Thomas, steward of Beaulieu; married Harriot (?) about 1812; child.: Alinson Hillear, Sarah, born about 1788; illegitimate child: William Hillear, William, illegitimate son of Sarah; bap 09.02.1806 Fawley ………………… Hillier, Susanna, born 1772; dwelt Poor House, Fawley; bur 14.02.1818 Fawley Hillier, Thomas of Boldre; married Hannah HICKS of Lymington 20.12.1720 Lymington Hillier, Thomas, tenanted an unnamed Beaulieu messuage in 1792 Hillier, William, married Mary KING 25.04.1760 Lower Exbury Regards, David For FREE online parish register transcriptions and other information visit www.knightroots.co.uk. Please trim ALL messages to a minimum & remove the footer as this is added automatically at the end of all messages. Thanks To subscribe or unsubscribe please send a message to hampshire-request@rootsweb.com with the appropriate subject header.Thanks ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HAMPSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Edna of Ottawa, there were a few Hellyers and similar in my neck of the woods:/ / / (Hellier, Helyear, Hellyer, Hillear, Hillier, Hillyear, Hillyer, Old English ‘slater, tiler’)/ Hellier, Ann, (nee ?); married Thomas about 1786 Beaulieu Hellier, Elizabeth, dtr of Thomas & Ann, bap 10.05.1787 Beaulieu Hellier, Thomas, 'partnered' Elizabeth RAWLINGS in Beaulieu about 1784; child: Thomas Hellier, Thomas, married Ann (?) about 1786 Beaulieu; child Elizabeth Hellier, Thomas, bastard son of Thomas & Elizabeth RAWLINGS, bap 19.10.1784 Beaulieu Helyear, Frances, born about 1788; married William LASHLEY about 1806 Hellyer, Alinson (sic), dtr of Thomas & Harriot of Beaulieu; bap. 11.04.1813 Hellyer, Harriot, (nee ?); married Thomas of Beaulieu about 1812 Hellyer, Thomas, steward of Beaulieu; married Harriot (?) about 1812; child.: Alinson Hillear, Sarah, born about 1788; illegitimate child: William Hillear, William, illegitimate son of Sarah; bap 09.02.1806 Fawley ………………… Hillier, Susanna, born 1772; dwelt Poor House, Fawley; bur 14.02.1818 Fawley Hillier, Thomas of Boldre; married Hannah HICKS of Lymington 20.12.1720 Lymington Hillier, Thomas, tenanted an unnamed Beaulieu messuage in 1792 Hillier, William, married Mary KING 25.04.1760 Lower Exbury Regards, David

My Great-father William James Hellyer (1854-94) died in this accident and an Inquest was held at the New Inn. FATAL TRAP ACCIDENT TO A PLUMBER. -- On Thursday, the Deputy Coroner, J. W. Loader Cooper, Esq., held an inquest at the New Inn respecting the death of William James Hillier, who died from the injuries sustained in the accident reported in our last week's issue. -- Mr. George Knight, jun., of the firm of Messrs. Knight and Son, stated that the deceased was a plumber in his employ, and was about 35 years of age. Edna - Ottawa

Perhaps they were cremated? The Cremation Act of 1902 permitted local authorities to provide and maintain cremation facilities on the rates. Records of cremations should be with the Cemeteries Department of the local authority (not sure which Beaulieu falls under). Ruth in Hambledon, Hampshire "The Cradle of Cricket" -----Original Message----- From: hampshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hampshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of jk hats Sent: 21 August 2009 12:48 To: hampshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [HAM] Burial mystery for deaths in Beaulieu Good morning, I have the deaths of Rose, wife of farm labourer Arthur William Hillman, and sons John and Charles Hillman, February 1929 living at a farm cottage in Beaulieu. I have tried all churchyards and cemeteries in the area looking for the burials and nothing! Anyone got any suggestions? judith

Good morning, I have the deaths of Rose, wife of farm labourer Arthur William Hillman, and sons John and Charles Hillman, February 1929 living at a farm cottage in Beaulieu. I have tried all churchyards and cemeteries in the area looking for the burials and nothing! Anyone got any suggestions? judith _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Messenger: Thanks for 10 great years—enjoy free winks and emoticons. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/157562755/direct/01/

My gt grandfather was William BUNCE born Hursley 1832 the son of Charles BUNCE. Whilst researching BUNCE family from Hursley I came across another William BUNCE born 1852 Hursley who found his way from a bricklayer to be Station Master at the Hawes Junction when the Scottish Express crashed in December 1910. Can anyone tell me if the two Williams were related? Many thanks Graham (my mother was Beatrice LM Bunce)

The entry says this ''Jutty'' is a male. I found one reference online to it being a diminutive of Justin. Not one I have ever seen before though! Regards, Patsy - New Zealand To: <hampshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [HAM] 1841 Census > Perhaps "Jutty" is very poor spelling for Judy? > >

Thanks to everyone for all the help. Jutty and Lewis it must be! Keith

I'm trying to connect with anyone who may have a common BROAD ancestry. My gggg grandfather was William BROAD from the Broughton area of Hampshire. He was born around 1761 and married Elizabeth Murrant in 1788 in Broughton. They had 5 children; William (my ggg grandfather), Thomas, Charles, Hannah and Ann.

Hi Keith - both Ancestry and Origins have indexed them as Lewis 16 and Jutty 12, both male. On reading the images I can't think of other possibilities. I note that 'Jutty' is not born in Hampshire according to this census. Best wishes, Patsy - New Zealand Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 8:59 AM Subject: [HAM] 1841 Census >I am having difficulty deciphering names on the 1841 census. > > Bittern Manor House, Parish of South Stoneham > Large household but am interested in 2 Hall children, aged 12 and 16. Can > anyone help with the christian names please. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Keith Smith

Hi Keith 12 year old looks like (and transcribed as) Jutty Hall; the 6 year old (and transcribed as) Lewis Hall. There is a Jessy Hall (aged 50) and a Lewis Shedden (aged 30). Just maybe Jutty could be another Jessy...?? Hope this helps. Alison -----Original Message----- From: hampshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hampshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Keith Smith Sent: 19 August 2009 22:00 To: HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HAM] 1841 Census I am having difficulty deciphering names on the 1841 census. Bittern Manor House, Parish of South Stoneham Large household but am interested in 2 Hall children, aged 12 and 16. Can anyone help with the christian names please.

Hi Keith, I agree that the census entry is very difficult to decipher. I believe that the 16 year old is called Lewis. If you have a look about 3 entries up from him there is another Lewis and the shaping of the letters looks very similar. The 12 year old has been transcribed as Jutty! I cannot think of any similar name and cannot offer any suggestions for this one unless it was something like Jessy. Sorry I cannot be of more help Lynda > > > I am having difficulty deciphering names on the 1841 census. > > Bittern Manor House, Parish of South Stoneham > Large household but am interested in 2 Hall children, aged 12 and 16. Can anyone help with the christian names please. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Keith Smith > > _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Messenger: Celebrate 10 amazing years with free winks and emoticons. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/157562755/direct/01/

I am having difficulty deciphering names on the 1841 census. Bittern Manor House, Parish of South Stoneham Large household but am interested in 2 Hall children, aged 12 and 16. Can anyone help with the christian names please. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Keith Smith

Perhaps "Jutty" is very poor spelling for Judy?

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Joe, I agree that is true; as a product of the 1950's I am fully aware of the types of educational establishment. My question is more specific i.e. what schools were there in Alton at that time! One person has told me there was a Secondary School, another person told me there was a Senior School. So what I need to know is were there two schools in Alton or only one and, if so, what was it / they called. Thanks, Martin -----Original Message----- From: hampshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hampshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Joe Austen Sent: 14 August 2009 17:20 To: hampshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HAM] Schools in ALTON, Hampshire I am very surprised Martin that as a UK resident that you would require such confirmation. In the fifties when I went to school in Essex and in 1960 in Hampshire a 'Secondary Modern" was the repository of the souls who either failed (that`s me) or never took the eleven plus. and was to my belief a lower grade of high school. HTH. Joe Austen in OZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Brown" <martinb@goostrey.orangehome.co.uk> To: <HAMPSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 12:47 AM Subject: [HAM] Schools in ALTON, Hampshire > Hi, > > My Uncle taught in Alton circa 1930's to around 1946. > > I have been given the name of two schools; Alton Senior Boys School > and Alton Secondary Modern School. Can anyone confirm if these were > separate schools or one and the same? > > Also can anyone confirm if Alton Youth Club was operated out of one of > these schools at that time or from elsewhere? > > Thanks, > > Martin Brown

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I am very surprised Martin that as a UK resident that you would require such confirmation. In the fifties when I went to school in Essex and in 1960 in Hampshire a 'Secondary Modern" was the repository of the souls who either failed (that`s me) or never took the eleven plus. and was to my belief a lower grade of high school. HTH. Joe Austen in OZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Brown" <martinb@goostrey.orangehome.co.uk> To: <HAMPSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 12:47 AM Subject: [HAM] Schools in ALTON, Hampshire > Hi, > > My Uncle taught in Alton circa 1930's to around 1946. > > I have been given the name of two schools; Alton Senior Boys School and > Alton Secondary Modern School. Can anyone confirm if these were separate > schools or one and the same? > > Also can anyone confirm if Alton Youth Club was operated out of one of > these > schools at that time or from elsewhere? > > Thanks, > > Martin Brown > > >

I am searching for the buriel location of my great great uncle George Heathfield AYLMORE. He was born 1890 Bosham Sussex. He lived and worked in Droxford district prior to his marriage to Alice Priscilla PURNELL Q4 1914 in Droxford district. He died Q2 1971 in Winchester district. May have been in Moorgreen Hospital Bitterne. I do not think he was buried back in Sussex but perhaps somewhere in Droxford district. He was a butcher and had lived at Meon Stoke. His wife died Q4 1958 and she was originally from Meon Stoke. Is there anybody who can help me find where he is buried? Thanks for any help or advice given. Kind regards Margaret Rose

A needle in a haystack - the Winchester registration district in 1971 consisted of over 70 townships and civil parishes - see http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/REG/districts/winchester.html although interestingly, West End (where Moor Green hospital is) was one of them since being transferred from Eastleigh. If you buy the death certificate, this should give his address prior to hospitalisation - deaths being registered where the death occurred and not the residence. With the address, you could then check local cemeteries and/or crematoria. Possibly an obituary in a local newspaper may help Linda & Tony -----Original Message----- From: hampshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hampshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Rose Sent: 14 August 2009 21:23 I am searching for the buriel location of my great great uncle George Heathfield AYLMORE. He died Q2 1971 in Winchester district. May have been in Moorgreen Hospital Bitterne. Is there anybody who can help me find where he is buried?