Hi, there is a marriage on freebmd for Edward Robert Douglass and Emma West Jones September qtr 1854 in Alverstoke Hampshire vol 2b pge 619. Hope this helps! Julie 50% off Games from Tiscali Play until 22 September 2009 - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/play _______________________________________________________________________

Yes Edna it did happen then, sometimes for several days, unsophisticated or no radar, was the reason. Which is why they had and sometimes still do have lookouts. Also she was the Royal Mail Ship (RMS)Aquitania. HMS only applies to warships HTH regards Joe Austen in OZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "liverpud" <liverpud-49@rogers.com> To: "Hampshire-L" <Hampshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 1:06 AM Subject: [HAM] HMS AQUITANIA > Hi there, > > My father left Southampton Dec. 1, 1948 for Halifax, > it was said that the ship was delayed (a day or so) due to fog. Was that > really a possibility and does that happen today? > > Thank you, > > Edna ~ Ottawa >

Hi, Another good site is www.castlegarden.org immigration 1830-1892. And many folks landed in Baltimore, Philadelphia or Canada and then traveled to US destinations. Edna - Ottawa

Hello I have been researching a Jones family in Hampshire and have been given the following information of a marriage between an Edward Douglass and Emma Jones on Sept 16, 1852. The marriage appears to have taken place at the St Thomas The Apostle Church :- page 13 no 26 Sept 16 1852 Edward Rob. DOUGLASS, 26, bachelor, Gunner's Mat. HMS Sphynx & Emma West JONES, 18, spinster, Hardway, after banns, fathers Edward Ross DOUGLASS (deceased) Warrant Officer & James West JONES (deceased) ?? , in the presence of William GREENFIELD & Maria Martha THURDELL.   My query is that I can't find this couple details on the Marriage Index for the September Quarter ( or the December one for that matter) so I am wondering if it is possible for a couple to get married in Church but not get their marriage registered?

Thanks Tony for the information and the article you enclosed. Don't think I'd like to be mid-Atlantic during the forties. (;-)) Edna - Ottawa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Holkham" <t.holkham@sky.com> To: <hampshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 6:54 AM Subject: Re: [HAM] HMS AQUITANIA Edna, There is an interesting pdf article online - http://www.atlanticliners.com/Images/Other%20Images/PDF/Earl%20Stott%20Voyage%20on%20the%20Aquitania.PDF that suggests that Aquitania had radar sufficiently accurate to identify a U-boat in 1944. However, her radar would probably not have been sufficiently advanced for her to pick her way 'blind' out of such a busy port as Southampton in fog, so I would think that was a reasonable explanation for the delay. Today, fog is unlikely to interfere with schedules because all vessels of any size have advanced radar systems and other navigational aids. Best wishes Tony Holkham Petersfield, Hampshire, England www.tonyholkham.org

Thanks Joe, I'm getting the picture now. I know the Channel is a very busy place too. (;-)) Edna - Ottawa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Austen" <austengenealogy@iprimus.com.au> To: <hampshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 8:22 PM Subject: Re: [HAM] HMS AQUITANIA Yes Edna it did happen then, sometimes for several days, unsophisticated or no radar, was the reason. Which is why they had and sometimes still do have lookouts. Also she was the Royal Mail Ship (RMS)Aquitania. HMS only applies to warships HTH regards Joe Austen in OZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "liverpud" <liverpud-49@rogers.com> To: "Hampshire-L" <Hampshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 1:06 AM Subject: [HAM] HMS AQUITANIA > Hi there, > > My father left Southampton Dec. 1, 1948 for Halifax, > it was said that the ship was delayed (a day or so) due to fog. Was that > really a possibility and does that happen today? > > Thank you, > > Edna ~ Ottawa > For FREE online parish register transcriptions and other information visit www.knightroots.co.uk. Please trim ALL messages to a minimum & remove the footer as this is added automatically at the end of all messages. Thanks To subscribe or unsubscribe please send a message to hampshire-request@rootsweb.com with the appropriate subject header.Thanks ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HAMPSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

At 11:06 AM 18/09/2009 -0400, liverpud wrote: >it was said that the ship was delayed (a day or so) due to fog. Was that >really a possibility and does that happen today? Edna, It was very much a possibility. Fog is common in this part of the Atlantic. In May and June it can be foggy everyday off shore here. In a busy sea lane, especially in 1948, ships had to slow down considerably. I remember when passing through the English Channel back in the fifties the the fog was so thick the Captain decided to drop the hook. We could hear fog horns and ships bells all around us. When morning came and the fog cleared away, there were ships anchored everywhere. It would have been foolhardy, if not impossible, to navigate through the Channel under those conditions. Cheers, Brian L.

Thank you Brian, Yes I know fog being from Liverpool. Was not sure, with the instruments aboard a ship, whether a ship could safely enter/exit a harbour without problems. Ship A-hoy! Thanks kindly, Edna - Ottawa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Loughnan" <bloughnan@hfx.eastlink.ca> To: <hampshire@rootsweb.com>; "Hampshire-L" <Hampshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [HAM] HMS AQUITANIA At 11:06 AM 18/09/2009 -0400, liverpud wrote: >it was said that the ship was delayed (a day or so) due to fog. Was that >really a possibility and does that happen today? Edna, It was very much a possibility. Fog is common in this part of the Atlantic. In May and June it can be foggy everyday off shore here. In a busy sea lane, especially in 1948, ships had to slow down considerably. I remember when passing through the English Channel back in the fifties the the fog was so thick the Captain decided to drop the hook. We could hear fog horns and ships bells all around us. When morning came and the fog cleared away, there were ships anchored everywhere. It would have been foolhardy, if not impossible, to navigate through the Channel under those conditions. Cheers, Brian L. For FREE online parish register transcriptions and other information visit www.knightroots.co.uk. Please trim ALL messages to a minimum & remove the footer as this is added automatically at the end of all messages. Thanks To subscribe or unsubscribe please send a message to hampshire-request@rootsweb.com with the appropriate subject header.Thanks ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HAMPSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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Hi there, My father left Southampton Dec. 1, 1948 for Halifax, it was said that the ship was delayed (a day or so) due to fog. Was that really a possibility and does that happen today? Thank you, Edna ~ Ottawa

You may enjoy this: http://www.lostliners.com/Aquitania.html My father, Edward George Knight (1905-98) left Southampton>Halifax in Dec. 1948. Edna - Ottawa

An excellent site: http://www.theshipslist.com Edna - Ottawa

Hi, You might find this interesting ~~ http://www.treasuretrails.co.uk/ Edna - Ottawa

Further to my e-mail I posted a few minutes ago, I looked at two photographs I have. One is of the day my parents were married in COBH (Queenstown) Ireland 17/2/1929, when my father was based in Spike Island. In the small wedding group is an Army friend of my Dad who was the likely witness who signed as H. LYNCH on the marriage certificate. In a later photograph of my father and two friends in Army uniform, one of the friends is the same soldier who was in the wedding group photo. It could have been in Aldershot Barracks as my father was based back there afterwards. Does this name jog anyones memory? I am willing to share the photographs with anyone who has this person in their family line. Thank you and kind regards. April.

Resending my request. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Beaconsfield Road, Fareham Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 19:37:03 +0100 From: April <adala-41@googlemail.com> To: HAMPSHIRE@rootsweb.com Looking for help. Hoping someone will know of this instance. One day after April 1941 an army survivor from Greece visited my mother who then lived in Beaconsfield Road, Fareham. In his hand he held out a photograph of soldiers resting under a hedge waiting for evacuation before Greece was overrun with the enemy. That photograph showed my father Leonard George Morris, age 37 years, an Officer, standing and leaning on his rifle, in full kit and smiling into the camera. That would be the last photo ever taken of my Father who did not survive and who is buried in Phaleron War Cemetery, Greece. How grateful my mother would have been to that survivor. She died in Australia years later. My point is, that survivor would have known my mother and where she lived. I do not know who he was but he would have been a soldier in the Royal Army Service Corps. Has anyone ever heard this account in their own family in the Fareham area. If so, please contact me. I and my siblings have tried to find out all we can about this lovely warm Father as we never knew anything till recent years about what happened to our father and all those brave men who died with him. Kind regards. April nee Morris. New Forest

William ROBINS of Portsea made his will 19 Feb 1762. He was a shipwright, aged about 30, & apparently "in perfect health". The will was proved 17 April 1762: he has died within 2 months of signing his will. 1. Where was William ROBINS likely to have been buried? Do local burial registers exist for this period? 2. If his death was unexpected, e.g. an accident at the shipyards, were there local newspapers then in which a report could have been given? 3. He left three young children, and his widow was Martha ROBINS. Has anyone come across Martha in their research? I would have expected a remarriage, but have not found any sign of this. Neither have I located her burial. 4. If Martha & children found themseves in the Workhouse, are there records that could be searched? I should be very grateful for any help, or suggestions, Tony ROBINS, Melbourne

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Subject: [HAM] Mayo/Windebank lookup request Hello I wonder if there is SKP who could do a lookup for me regarding a marriage between THOMAS BARNSLEY MAYO and FANNY WINDEBANK which took place in Portsea,Q4 1870, ref: volume2b, page 803. I am hoping to find out Thomas' father's name and, possibly his age. He seems to have remarried, also in Portsea, Q4 1876 to a ROSINA TAYLOR, ref. 2b page 864. Very many thanks to all who replied re my above request. I must have had a senior moment when I assumed that Thomas married Fanny Windebank. Alison, who so kindly pointed me to a marriage betwwen Thomas Barnsley Mayo and Isabella Burden on the IGI, at St Mary's Portsea, on 18 Dec 1870, many thanks. It had not occurred to me to even check the IGI! I had, though, checked the excellent Knightsroots site without success. Isabella's death is on Free BMD in 1873, Portsea, which accounts for the second marriage of Thomas to Rosina Taylor in 1876. Again, many thanks for your kindness. Yvonne

Hi Yvonne Have you checked Family Search (LDS IGI) - this shows the following: Marriage: Thomas Barnsley Mayo and Isabella Burden - 18th December 1870, St Mary's Portsea (he was aged 27, she was aged 34) - which would probably be the Q4 marriage you refer to below. Looking at FreeBMD, it looks like Fanny Windebank probably married the other person - Francis Henry Barnard: Marriages Dec (Q4) 1870 Barnard Francis Henry Portsea 2b 803 Burden Isabella Portsea 2b 803 MAYO Thomas Barnsby Portsea 2b 803 Windebank Fanny Portsea 2b 803 Incidentally, I'm unable to find Thomas & Isabella on the 1871/1881/1891/1901 census - however, I only did a simple search! (But I found Francis Barnard and Fanny Barchard together in 1871 in Portsea in the Gordon Tavern Public House!, which supports Thomas and Isabella being correct!) Hope this helps! Cheers Alison Smith (nee Hargreaves), Swindon, UK -----Original Message----- From: hampshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hampshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Yvonne Courtine Sent: 08 September 2009 11:12 To: HAMPSHIRE@rootsweb.com Subject: [HAM] Mayo/Windebank lookup request Hello I wonder if there is SKP who could do a lookup for me regarding a marriage between THOMAS BARNSLEY MAYO and FANNY WINDEBANK which took place in Portsea,Q4 1870, ref: volume2b, page 803. I am hoping to find out Thomas' father's name and, possibly his age. He seems to have remarried, also in Portsea, Q4 1876 to a ROSINA TAYLOR, ref. 2b page 864.

Portsea District in 1870 had many churches (including non conformist ones) and a look up in a quarter is a lengthy task. Also the marriage could have taken place in the register office and therefore would not be in a church and therefore the certificate would need to be ordered to confirm for sure. Linda and Tony --On Behalf Of Yvonne Courtine Sent: 08 September 2009 11:12 To: HAMPSHIRE@rootsweb.com Subject: [HAM] Mayo/Windebank lookup request Hello I wonder if there is SKP who could do a lookup for me regarding a marriage between THOMAS BARNSLEY MAYO and FANNY WINDEBANK which took place in Portsea,Q4 1870, ref: volume2b, page 803. I am hoping to find out Thomas' father's name and, possibly his age. He seems to have remarried, also in Portsea, Q4 1876 to a ROSINA TAYLOR, ref. 2b page 864. I would be tremendously grateful for any help. Thank you Yvonne in wet and windy Wales