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    1. Re: [HAM] Do Hamiltons generally originate from England, Scotland and Ireland?
    2. Garth A. Hamilton - VE3HO
    3. Ancestral Seat in Scotland of the Duke of Hamilton is the city of Hamilton located SE of Glasgow sort of 1/3 of the way from Glasgow to Newcastle. Many Hamilton's were Weslyan Methodists like my ancestors and due to difficulties in Scotland were persuaded to migrate to Ireland where the British Crown wanted Prostestant landlords and tenants, most settling in Ulster (Ulster being todays Northern Ireland plus two more counties in current day Ireland) about 1630. The population growth in Ireland and the dividing of original land holdings to sons over the next 200 years meant that by the early 1800 over crowding had lead to many young people being encouraged to immigrate to Canada and the USA. Many came to Canada before the great famine encouraged by free transportation for those who prove they had the funds to set up a farm on land granted by the Crown in Upper and Lower Canada (todays Quebec and Ontario). Again the British Crown wanting Protestant English speakers in the area to increase there numbers. I am not familiar with the numbers of Scottish people who immigrated to other than Ireland in the 1630's but there would certainly have been those who through marriage would choose to go to Northern England or France. Some of my ancestors went to the area along the Tyne in addition to Ulster. Starting about 1830 the numbers of immigrants from Ireland to the USA started a dramatic rise reaching a peak about 1834 in Canada and 1847 or so in the USA with many going to Pennsylvania and Kentucky. Many of those who immigrated to Canada in turn immigrated from Canada to the USA as well. In 1865 many were enticed from other parts of Quebec to the Eastern townships of Quebec where very good farm land was made available for them and in the case of my family in Compton County, and the area around Randboro on the border with the US and intermarried with US families of Northern Vermont and New Hampshire. I am not as familiar with the direct immigration from Scotland to the North America, but there was certainly a great deal of it in the 1700's and 1800's as well. I do not have any numbers to prove this but I suspect that most Hamilton's arrived from Scotland via Ulster, the next largest group from Scotland direct and then the group from Scotland via England and a smallest group from Scotland via France. regards Garth Hamilton At 08:35 AM 06.02.2003 -0600, you wrote: >I believe that the ancestral home of the Hamiltons is near Glasgow, >Scotland, in the lowlands of Scotland. There are many Hamiltons in N. >Ireland too as that whole area was at one time a giant sea kingdom, with >lots of passage back and forth between Scotland and Ireland, as commerce and >the winds of politics changed. > > >==== HAMILTON Mailing List ==== >Looking for a USA location? >Try http://www-nmd.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

    02/06/2003 07:30:49
    1. RE: [HAM] Do Hamiltons generally originate from England, Scotland and Ireland?
    2. Bill Penrose
    3. All; One should not foreget that Scots, Irish, Cornish and Welsh are all Celtic peoples that came from the continent to these Islands in three waves--the first settling in Scotland, the second in Ireland and third in Cornwall (don't know about Wales). Also residents in England and these areas did not have surnames before the time of William the Conqueror (AD1066). One of the first things done by William was to conduct a Census of the land and the people. In order to conduct the census towns had to have names (few did) and people had to have surnames. So surnames really started between 1200 and 1350 in the three areas being discussed! Any names before 1100 are just conjecture!! -----Original Message----- From: Garth A. Hamilton - VE3HO [mailto:garth@ve3ho.com] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 11:31 AM To: HAMILTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HAM] Do Hamiltons generally originate from England, Scotland and Ireland? Ancestral Seat in Scotland of the Duke of Hamilton is the city of Hamilton located SE of Glasgow sort of 1/3 of the way from Glasgow to Newcastle. Many Hamilton's were Weslyan Methodists like my ancestors and due to difficulties in Scotland were persuaded to migrate to Ireland where the British Crown wanted Prostestant landlords and tenants, most settling in Ulster (Ulster being todays Northern Ireland plus two more counties in current day Ireland) about 1630. The population growth in Ireland and the dividing of original land holdings to sons over the next 200 years meant that by the early 1800 over crowding had lead to many young people being encouraged to immigrate to Canada and the USA. Many came to Canada before the great famine encouraged by free transportation for those who prove they had the funds to set up a farm on land granted by the Crown in Upper and Lower Canada (todays Quebec and Ontario). Again the British Crown wanting Protestant English speakers in the area to increase there numbers. I am not familiar with the numbers of Scottish people who immigrated to other than Ireland in the 1630's but there would certainly have been those who through marriage would choose to go to Northern England or France. Some of my ancestors went to the area along the Tyne in addition to Ulster. Starting about 1830 the numbers of immigrants from Ireland to the USA started a dramatic rise reaching a peak about 1834 in Canada and 1847 or so in the USA with many going to Pennsylvania and Kentucky. Many of those who immigrated to Canada in turn immigrated from Canada to the USA as well. In 1865 many were enticed from other parts of Quebec to the Eastern townships of Quebec where very good farm land was made available for them and in the case of my family in Compton County, and the area around Randboro on the border with the US and intermarried with US families of Northern Vermont and New Hampshire. I am not as familiar with the direct immigration from Scotland to the North America, but there was certainly a great deal of it in the 1700's and 1800's as well. I do not have any numbers to prove this but I suspect that most Hamilton's arrived from Scotland via Ulster, the next largest group from Scotland direct and then the group from Scotland via England and a smallest group from Scotland via France. regards Garth Hamilton At 08:35 AM 06.02.2003 -0600, you wrote: >I believe that the ancestral home of the Hamiltons is near Glasgow, >Scotland, in the lowlands of Scotland. There are many Hamiltons in N. >Ireland too as that whole area was at one time a giant sea kingdom, >with lots of passage back and forth between Scotland and Ireland, as >commerce and the winds of politics changed. > > >==== HAMILTON Mailing List ==== >Looking for a USA location? >Try http://www-nmd.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy >records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 ==== HAMILTON Mailing List ==== Looking for a USA location? Try http://www-nmd.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

    02/06/2003 05:12:48