Since Hamilton's from the 1600's are being mentioned below...does anyone have any info about a John Hamilton &/or Mary Grimball??? I do know that Mary's parents were Paul Grimball & Mary Stoney both of whom were born in England & died in Colleton County South Carolina. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Dean Shipley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garth A. Hamilton - VE3HO" <garth@ve3ho.com> To: <HAMILTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [HAM] Do Hamiltons generally originate from England, Scotland and Ireland? > Ancestral Seat in Scotland of the Duke of Hamilton is the city of Hamilton located SE of Glasgow sort of 1/3 of the way from Glasgow to Newcastle. > > Many Hamilton's were Weslyan Methodists like my ancestors and due to difficulties in Scotland were persuaded to migrate to Ireland where the British Crown wanted Prostestant landlords and tenants, most settling in Ulster (Ulster being todays Northern Ireland plus two more counties in current day Ireland) about 1630. The population growth in Ireland and the dividing of original land holdings to sons over the next 200 years meant that by the early 1800 over crowding had lead to many young people being encouraged to immigrate to Canada and the USA. Many came to Canada before the great famine encouraged by free transportation for those who prove they had the funds to set up a farm on land granted by the Crown in Upper and Lower Canada (todays Quebec and Ontario). Again the British Crown wanting Protestant English speakers in the area to increase there numbers. > > I am not familiar with the numbers of Scottish people who immigrated to other than Ireland in the 1630's but there would certainly have been those who through marriage would choose to go to Northern England or France. Some of my ancestors went to the area along the Tyne in addition to Ulster. > > Starting about 1830 the numbers of immigrants from Ireland to the USA started a dramatic rise reaching a peak about 1834 in Canada and 1847 or so in the USA with many going to Pennsylvania and Kentucky. Many of those who immigrated to Canada in turn immigrated from Canada to the USA as well. In 1865 many were enticed from other parts of Quebec to the Eastern townships of Quebec where very good farm land was made available for them and in the case of my family in Compton County, and the area around Randboro on the border with the US and intermarried with US families of Northern Vermont and New Hampshire. > > I am not as familiar with the direct immigration from Scotland to the North America, but there was certainly a great deal of it in the 1700's and 1800's as well. I do not have any numbers to prove this but I suspect that most Hamilton's arrived from Scotland via Ulster, the next largest group from Scotland direct and then the group from Scotland via England and a smallest group from Scotland via France. > > regards > Garth Hamilton > > At 08:35 AM 06.02.2003 -0600, you wrote: > >I believe that the ancestral home of the Hamiltons is near Glasgow, > >Scotland, in the lowlands of Scotland. There are many Hamiltons in N. > >Ireland too as that whole area was at one time a giant sea kingdom, with > >lots of passage back and forth between Scotland and Ireland, as commerce and > >the winds of politics changed. > > > > > >==== HAMILTON Mailing List ==== > >Looking for a USA location? > >Try http://www-nmd.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ==== HAMILTON Mailing List ==== > Looking for a USA location? > Try http://www-nmd.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

All of the discussion so far has been migration to America and Canada, whist I acknowledge that this is correct, may I add an omission. Like Dean I am searching for a Hamilton, Jean dob unknown in Lanark Scotland, mar John CULLEN 26 June 1853 Gorbals, Lanark Scotland. Jean & John like many other either by freewill or force [CONVICTS1788-1868]left the shores of Britain for AUSTRALIA and NEW ZEALAND. We don't know the count down here or NZ, though it is many. For those that are unaware, a major city in NZ is called Hamilton. There are one or two in Australia also. Jean and John settled in Melbourne, Colony of Victoria between 1854 -6. If anyone can help I would appreciate it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dean Shipley" <shipley@midsouth.rr.com> To: <HAMILTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [HAM] Do Hamiltons generally originate from England, Scotland and Ireland? > Since Hamilton's from the 1600's are being mentioned below...does anyone > have any info about a John Hamilton &/or Mary Grimball??? > > I do know that Mary's parents were Paul Grimball & Mary Stoney both of whom > were born in England & died in Colleton County South Carolina. > > Any info would be greatly appreciated. > > Dean Shipley > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Garth A. Hamilton - VE3HO" <garth@ve3ho.com> > To: <HAMILTON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 1:30 PM > Subject: Re: [HAM] Do Hamiltons generally originate from England, Scotland > and Ireland? > > > > Ancestral Seat in Scotland of the Duke of Hamilton is the city of Hamilton > located SE of Glasgow sort of 1/3 of the way from Glasgow to Newcastle. > > > > Many Hamilton's were Weslyan Methodists like my ancestors and due to > difficulties in Scotland were persuaded to migrate to Ireland where the > British Crown wanted Prostestant landlords and tenants, most settling in > Ulster (Ulster being todays Northern Ireland plus two more counties in > current day Ireland) about 1630. The population growth in Ireland and the > dividing of original land holdings to sons over the next 200 years meant > that by the early 1800 over crowding had lead to many young people being > encouraged to immigrate to Canada and the USA. Many came to Canada before > the great famine encouraged by free transportation for those who prove they > had the funds to set up a farm on land granted by the Crown in Upper and > Lower Canada (todays Quebec and Ontario). Again the British Crown wanting > Protestant English speakers in the area to increase there numbers. > > > > I am not familiar with the numbers of Scottish people who immigrated to > other than Ireland in the 1630's but there would certainly have been those > who through marriage would choose to go to Northern England or France. Some > of my ancestors went to the area along the Tyne in addition to Ulster. > > > > Starting about 1830 the numbers of immigrants from Ireland to the USA > started a dramatic rise reaching a peak about 1834 in Canada and 1847 or so > in the USA with many going to Pennsylvania and Kentucky. Many of those who > immigrated to Canada in turn immigrated from Canada to the USA as well. In > 1865 many were enticed from other parts of Quebec to the Eastern townships > of Quebec where very good farm land was made available for them and in the > case of my family in Compton County, and the area around Randboro on the > border with the US and intermarried with US families of Northern Vermont and > New Hampshire. > > > > I am not as familiar with the direct immigration from Scotland to the > North America, but there was certainly a great deal of it in the 1700's and > 1800's as well. I do not have any numbers to prove this but I suspect that > most Hamilton's arrived from Scotland via Ulster, the next largest group > from Scotland direct and then the group from Scotland via England and a > smallest group from Scotland via France. > > > > regards > > Garth Hamilton > > > > At 08:35 AM 06.02.2003 -0600, you wrote: > > >I believe that the ancestral home of the Hamiltons is near Glasgow, > > >Scotland, in the lowlands of Scotland. There are many Hamiltons in N. > > >Ireland too as that whole area was at one time a giant sea kingdom, with > > >lots of passage back and forth between Scotland and Ireland, as commerce > and > > >the winds of politics changed. > > > > > > > > >==== HAMILTON Mailing List ==== > > >Looking for a USA location? > > >Try http://www-nmd.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html > > > > > >============================== > > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== HAMILTON Mailing List ==== > > Looking for a USA location? > > Try http://www-nmd.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== HAMILTON Mailing List ==== > Great search engine > http://www.familytreemagazine.com/search/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >