The City of Hamilton, New Zealand was named after Captain John Fane Charles HAMILTON, R.N., Commander of H.M.S. Esk, who was killed while leading the Naval Brigade in the assault on Gate Pa, Tauranga, on 30th April 1864. The military settlement which has now become the City of Hamilton was named in his honour. John Fane Charles Hamilton was born in 1821. His father was a Colonel, his maternal grandfather an LL.D., an eminent agriculturist and for many years M.P. for Oxford, England. An uncle was a Rear-Admiral. John F.C. Hamilton joined the Navy when only 14. During the period when he was 20-22 years old he was present, either in boats or on the shore at engagements at Amoy, Chinghae, Segoan, Charpoo and Woosyung in China. He served on some peaceful stations and was promoted to Lieutenant when 23 years old. He was promoted again for his services at the Siege of Sebastapol in the Crimean War. It was here that his crew presented him with the sword which his descendants have handed over to the City of Hamilton together with his decoration. His decorations were; -British China War with the following clasps: -China 1842, Fatshan 1857, Canton 1857. -British Crimea Medal -one clasp - Sebastapol -Turkish Decoration -Order of Medijide. -Turkish Crimea Medal -La Crimea 1855. At the age of 37 he became a captain, and during the Maori Wars he was sent to New Zealand in command of H.M.S. Esk. She was a corvette of 1169 tons. For those days her armament was powerful: 16 plain bored 8-inch guns, 4 40-pounder and 1 110-pounder Armstrong field guns,. At the Battle of Gate Pa, Tauranga, Captain Hamilton was in charge of the reserve. When the main arrack was in confusion Hamilton made an heroic effort to stay the panic, but was shot leading his men. He was then 40 years old. He was an able officer and held the confidence of his men. He was also a great favourite with the officers and all of the arms who were acquainted with him. No doubt his popularity and his excellent service record were the reasons why Colonel William Moule chose Hamilton as the name of the new settlement in he Waikato, the site for which was fixed shortly afterward. The Hamilton City Council has given the sword and decorations a place of honour in the council chambers. from the Waikato Times Hamilton Centenary Issue, Monday August 2 1864. (Some confusion with the birth date and age. I am not related in any way -that I know of. I have no further info on the family.) ----- Original Message ----- From: Pamela Singleton <sinfox@iinet.net.au> To: <HAMILTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 12:04 AM Subject: Re: [HAM] Do Hamiltons generally originate from England, Scotland and Ireland? > All of the discussion so far has been migration to America and Canada, whist > I acknowledge that this is correct, may I add an omission. Like Dean I am > searching for a Hamilton, Jean dob unknown in Lanark Scotland, mar John > CULLEN 26 June 1853 Gorbals, Lanark Scotland. > Jean & John like many other either by freewill or force > [CONVICTS1788-1868]left the shores of Britain for AUSTRALIA and NEW ZEALAND. > We don't know the count down here or NZ, though it is many. For those that > are unaware, a major city in NZ is called Hamilton. There are one or two in > Australia also. Jean and John settled in Melbourne, Colony of Victoria > between 1854 -6. If anyone can help I would appreciate it. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dean Shipley" <shipley@midsouth.rr.com> > To: <HAMILTON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 1:01 PM > Subject: Re: [HAM] Do Hamiltons generally originate from England, Scotland > and Ireland? > > > > Since Hamilton's from the 1600's are being mentioned below...does anyone > > have any info about a John Hamilton &/or Mary Grimball??? > > > > I do know that Mary's parents were Paul Grimball & Mary Stoney both of > whom > > were born in England & died in Colleton County South Carolina. > > > > Any info would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Dean Shipley > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Garth A. Hamilton - VE3HO" <garth@ve3ho.com> > > To: <HAMILTON-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 1:30 PM > > Subject: Re: [HAM] Do Hamiltons generally originate from England, Scotland > > and Ireland? > > > > > > > Ancestral Seat in Scotland of the Duke of Hamilton is the city of > Hamilton > > located SE of Glasgow sort of 1/3 of the way from Glasgow to Newcastle. > > > > > > Many Hamilton's were Weslyan Methodists like my ancestors and due to > > difficulties in Scotland were persuaded to migrate to Ireland where the > > British Crown wanted Prostestant landlords and tenants, most settling in > > Ulster (Ulster being todays Northern Ireland plus two more counties in > > current day Ireland) about 1630. The population growth in Ireland and the > > dividing of original land holdings to sons over the next 200 years meant > > that by the early 1800 over crowding had lead to many young people being > > encouraged to immigrate to Canada and the USA. Many came to Canada before > > the great famine encouraged by free transportation for those who prove > they > > had the funds to set up a farm on land granted by the Crown in Upper and > > Lower Canada (todays Quebec and Ontario). Again the British Crown wanting > > Protestant English speakers in the area to increase there numbers. > > > > > > I am not familiar with the numbers of Scottish people who immigrated to > > other than Ireland in the 1630's but there would certainly have been those > > who through marriage would choose to go to Northern England or France. > Some > > of my ancestors went to the area along the Tyne in addition to Ulster. > > > > > > Starting about 1830 the numbers of immigrants from Ireland to the USA > > started a dramatic rise reaching a peak about 1834 in Canada and 1847 or > so > > in the USA with many going to Pennsylvania and Kentucky. Many of those who > > immigrated to Canada in turn immigrated from Canada to the USA as well. In > > 1865 many were enticed from other parts of Quebec to the Eastern townships > > of Quebec where very good farm land was made available for them and in the > > case of my family in Compton County, and the area around Randboro on the > > border with the US and intermarried with US families of Northern Vermont > and > > New Hampshire. > > > > > > I am not as familiar with the direct immigration from Scotland to the > > North America, but there was certainly a great deal of it in the 1700's > and > > 1800's as well. I do not have any numbers to prove this but I suspect that > > most Hamilton's arrived from Scotland via Ulster, the next largest group > > from Scotland direct and then the group from Scotland via England and a > > smallest group from Scotland via France. > > > > > > regards > > > Garth Hamilton > > > > > > At 08:35 AM 06.02.2003 -0600, you wrote: > > > >I believe that the ancestral home of the Hamiltons is near Glasgow, > > > >Scotland, in the lowlands of Scotland. There are many Hamiltons in N. > > > >Ireland too as that whole area was at one time a giant sea kingdom, > with > > > >lots of passage back and forth between Scotland and Ireland, as > commerce > > and > > > >the winds of politics changed. > > > > > > > > > > > >==== HAMILTON Mailing List ==== > > > >Looking for a USA location? > > > >Try http://www-nmd.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html > > > > > > > >============================== > > > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== HAMILTON Mailing List ==== > > > Looking for a USA location? > > > Try http://www-nmd.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== HAMILTON Mailing List ==== > > Great search engine > > http://www.familytreemagazine.com/search/ > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== HAMILTON Mailing List ==== > Clan Hamilton Society > web site: www.clanhamilton.org **NEW** > email: Secretary@clanhamilton.org > snail mail: Clan Hamilton Society, P.O.Box 71881, Charleston, SC 29415 > contact: Philip G. Dixon, secretary, sectychs@juno.com for more info! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Thanks for that piece of history Donnelle, you seem to lean new things each time you log on to the message board. I made an error in the first name of my gggrandmother, her name was Jane, not Jean Hamilton m John Cullen, 26 June 1853, had a son William Morrison 26 April 1854, Laurieston, Gorbals, Lanark, Scotland, d Ormond Vic 1937. It was after William's b and bef the b of Sarah McLean Cullen at Melbourne, 1857 d[GRANT] Caulfield Vic 1927 that Jane and John migrated. Other children b. in Australia: John Hamilton b1858 Nth. Melbourne John[Robert] McDonald b. 1860 Melbourne d 1935 Brunswick Grace Johnstone b. 12 Feb 1861 Carlton, Melbourne, d [CLARKE]24 June 1939 Cottesloe Perth West Australia My GGrandmother Thomas McFarlane b 1862 Care d 1929 Brunswick. Isabella Jaffery b 1863 Melb d 1920 Ghuntly Alexander Dickson b 1865 Melb no dod Andrew Allen b 1867 Melb. d 1934 West Brunswick Vic David Hastie b. 1869 Melb. d no dod James Balfour 1870 Melb no dod There is a reg of d no3271 for EVANS, Jane Neal 1894 aged 37, dau of John Cullen and Jane Hamilton. I am now wondering if this Jane could be a twin of Sarah [1857] or John [1858] For those that are unaware, the states of Australia were known as the Colony of, pre Federation 1 Jan 1901. ALL births except William's were in the then Colony of Victoria. I hope that some one out there is able to assist me in this search, as I only have the names of the children except Grace, but no details of the family pre the mar in 1853 in Scotland. Sorry I didn't sign off last time, I WAS called away. Pamela Perth West Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donnelle" <donnelle.hamilton@xtra.co.nz> To: <HAMILTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 4:25 AM Subject: Re: [HAM] Do Hamiltons generally originate from England, Scotland and Ireland? > The City of Hamilton, New Zealand was named after Captain John Fane Charles > HAMILTON, R.N., Commander of H.M.S. Esk, who was killed while leading the > Naval Brigade in the assault on Gate Pa, Tauranga, on 30th April 1864. The > military settlement which has now become the City of Hamilton was named in > his honour. > > John Fane Charles Hamilton was born in 1821. His father was a Colonel, his > maternal grandfather an LL.D., an eminent agriculturist and for many years > M.P. for Oxford, England. An uncle was a Rear-Admiral. > > John F.C. Hamilton joined the Navy when only 14. During the period when he > was 20-22 years old he was present, either in boats or on the shore at > engagements at Amoy, Chinghae, Segoan, Charpoo and Woosyung in China. > > He served on some peaceful stations and was promoted to Lieutenant when 23 > years old. He was promoted again for his services at the Siege of > Sebastapol in the Crimean War. It was here that his crew presented him with > the sword which his descendants have handed over to the City of Hamilton > together with his decoration. > > His decorations were; > -British China War with the following clasps: -China 1842, Fatshan 1857, > Canton 1857. > -British Crimea Medal -one clasp - Sebastapol > -Turkish Decoration -Order of Medijide. > -Turkish Crimea Medal -La Crimea 1855. > > At the age of 37 he became a captain, and during the Maori Wars he was sent > to New Zealand in command of H.M.S. Esk. She was a corvette of 1169 tons. > For those days her armament was powerful: 16 plain bored 8-inch guns, 4 > 40-pounder and 1 110-pounder Armstrong field guns,. > > At the Battle of Gate Pa, Tauranga, Captain Hamilton was in charge of the > reserve. When the main arrack was in confusion Hamilton made an heroic > effort to stay the panic, but was shot leading his men. He was then 40 > years old. > > He was an able officer and held the confidence of his men. He was also a > great favourite with the officers and all of the arms who were acquainted > with him. No doubt his popularity and his excellent service record were the > reasons why Colonel William Moule chose Hamilton as the name of the new > settlement in he Waikato, the site for which was fixed shortly afterward. > > The Hamilton City Council has given the sword and decorations a place of > honour in the council chambers. > > from the Waikato Times Hamilton Centenary Issue, Monday August 2 1864. > (Some confusion with the birth date and age. I am not related in any > way -that I know of. I have no further info on the family.) > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Pamela Singleton <sinfox@iinet.net.au> > To: <HAMILTON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 12:04 AM > Subject: Re: [HAM] Do Hamiltons generally originate from England, Scotland > and Ireland? > > > > All of the discussion so far has been migration to America and Canada, > whist > > I acknowledge that this is correct, may I add an omission. Like Dean I am > > searching for a Hamilton, Jean dob unknown in Lanark Scotland, mar John > > CULLEN 26 June 1853 Gorbals, Lanark Scotland. > > Jean & John like many other either by freewill or force > > [CONVICTS1788-1868]left the shores of Britain for AUSTRALIA and NEW > ZEALAND. > > We don't know the count down here or NZ, though it is many. For those that > > are unaware, a major city in NZ is called Hamilton. There are one or two > in > > Australia also. Jean and John settled in Melbourne, Colony of Victoria > > between 1854 -6. If anyone can help I would appreciate it. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Dean Shipley" <shipley@midsouth.rr.com> > > To: <HAMILTON-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 1:01 PM > > Subject: Re: [HAM] Do Hamiltons generally originate from England, Scotland > > and Ireland? > > > > > > > Since Hamilton's from the 1600's are being mentioned below...does anyone > > > have any info about a John Hamilton &/or Mary Grimball??? > > > > > > I do know that Mary's parents were Paul Grimball & Mary Stoney both of > > whom > > > were born in England & died in Colleton County South Carolina. > > > > > > Any info would be greatly appreciated. > > > > > > Dean Shipley > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Garth A. Hamilton - VE3HO" <garth@ve3ho.com> > > > To: <HAMILTON-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 1:30 PM > > > Subject: Re: [HAM] Do Hamiltons generally originate from England, > Scotland > > > and Ireland? > > > > > > > > > > Ancestral Seat in Scotland of the Duke of Hamilton is the city of > > Hamilton > > > located SE of Glasgow sort of 1/3 of the way from Glasgow to Newcastle. > > > > > > > > Many Hamilton's were Weslyan Methodists like my ancestors and due to > > > difficulties in Scotland were persuaded to migrate to Ireland where the > > > British Crown wanted Prostestant landlords and tenants, most settling in > > > Ulster (Ulster being todays Northern Ireland plus two more counties in > > > current day Ireland) about 1630. The population growth in Ireland and > the > > > dividing of original land holdings to sons over the next 200 years meant > > > that by the early 1800 over crowding had lead to many young people being > > > encouraged to immigrate to Canada and the USA. Many came to Canada > before > > > the great famine encouraged by free transportation for those who prove > > they > > > had the funds to set up a farm on land granted by the Crown in Upper and > > > Lower Canada (todays Quebec and Ontario). Again the British Crown > wanting > > > Protestant English speakers in the area to increase there numbers. > > > > > > > > I am not familiar with the numbers of Scottish people who immigrated > to > > > other than Ireland in the 1630's but there would certainly have been > those > > > who through marriage would choose to go to Northern England or France. > > Some > > > of my ancestors went to the area along the Tyne in addition to Ulster. > > > > > > > > Starting about 1830 the numbers of immigrants from Ireland to the USA > > > started a dramatic rise reaching a peak about 1834 in Canada and 1847 or > > so > > > in the USA with many going to Pennsylvania and Kentucky. Many of those > who > > > immigrated to Canada in turn immigrated from Canada to the USA as well. > In > > > 1865 many were enticed from other parts of Quebec to the Eastern > townships > > > of Quebec where very good farm land was made available for them and in > the > > > case of my family in Compton County, and the area around Randboro on the > > > border with the US and intermarried with US families of Northern Vermont > > and > > > New Hampshire. > > > > > > > > I am not as familiar with the direct immigration from Scotland to the > > > North America, but there was certainly a great deal of it in the 1700's > > and > > > 1800's as well. I do not have any numbers to prove this but I suspect > that > > > most Hamilton's arrived from Scotland via Ulster, the next largest group > > > from Scotland direct and then the group from Scotland via England and a > > > smallest group from Scotland via France. > > > > > > > > regards > > > > Garth Hamilton > > > > > > > > At 08:35 AM 06.02.2003 -0600, you wrote: > > > > >I believe that the ancestral home of the Hamiltons is near Glasgow, > > > > >Scotland, in the lowlands of Scotland. There are many Hamiltons in > N. > > > > >Ireland too as that whole area was at one time a giant sea kingdom, > > with > > > > >lots of passage back and forth between Scotland and Ireland, as > > commerce > > > and > > > > >the winds of politics changed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== HAMILTON Mailing List ==== > > > > >Looking for a USA location? > > > > >Try http://www-nmd.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html > > > > > > > > > >============================== > > > > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, > > > go to: > > > > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== HAMILTON Mailing List ==== > > > > Looking for a USA location? > > > > Try http://www-nmd.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, > > > go to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== HAMILTON Mailing List ==== > > > Great search engine > > > http://www.familytreemagazine.com/search/ > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== HAMILTON Mailing List ==== > > Clan Hamilton Society > > web site: www.clanhamilton.org **NEW** > > email: Secretary@clanhamilton.org > > snail mail: Clan Hamilton Society, P.O.Box 71881, Charleston, SC 29415 > > contact: Philip G. 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