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    1. [HAM] Lillian L (Hamilton) Myers obituary
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Hamilton, Myers Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xFh.2ACEB/3442 Message Board Post: source: The Sun Gazette, Williamsport, PA Oct. 11, 2002 deceased : Myers, Lillian L (Hamilton) age: 76 born: Sept. 15, 1926 birth place: Williamsport, PA died: Oct. 9, 2002 place of death: Williamsport, PA Full obit upon request Send email to dactackm@jlink.net

    02/11/2003 07:40:47
    1. [HAM] Re: Alfred Hamilton
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xFh.2ACEB/887.1181.1185.1210.1212.1505.1636.1640.1 Message Board Post: There is an Alfred Hamilton listed in the 1930 census for Spokane Washington, District 5. I have no connection to this individual. Just happened to remember seeing the name. Hope it is of some assistance

    02/10/2003 12:10:11
    1. [HAM] Re: Leithead
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: LEITHEAD Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xFh.2ACEB/1757.1 Message Board Post: I have some information on a LEITHEAD family from Nova Scotia, Canada and there is some more on the LEITHEAD board

    02/09/2003 04:16:39
    1. [HAM] Re: Alfred Hamilton
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Hamilto Upson Hubbell Holmes Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xFh.2ACEB/887.1181.1185.1210.1212.1505.1636.1640 Message Board Post: Could this be the Alfred Hamilton you were searching for? 1. ALFRED UPSON HAMILTON was born Abt. 1810 in ,,Ohio. He married (1) ANN HOLMES 24 October 1833 in Medina, Ohio. He married (2) SUSANAH HUBBELL 24 December 1843 in ,Lucas, Ohio. She was born Abt. 1821 in ,,Ohio. Children of ALFRED HAMILTON and SUSANAH HUBBELL are: i. ELIZA J HAMILTON b. Abt. 1845, Toledo,Lucas,Ohio. ii. ALFRED HAMILTON b. Abt. 1849, Toledo,Lucas,Ohio. If you have a connection with this family, I would be happy to provide more research.

    02/09/2003 01:38:02
    1. [HAM] Isaiah Hamilton
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Hamilton, Walpole, Freeman, Stokes, Tallant, Swaim, Clark, Harrison, McCarthy, Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xFh.2ACEB/3441 Message Board Post: I'm looking for family members of Isaiah D. Hamilton b.1803 in Ms. or Tn.married Eviline Walpole 1821 in Al. They had thirteen kids, Isaiah died in 1853 in Ms. Some of his children stayed in Ms. others moved out west to Az., Ut., Ok. I would like to get in contact with any of Isaiah's desendents.

    02/09/2003 11:54:31
    1. [HAM] Goodbye and Thank you !!
    2. Hello everyone, Well I am truly amazed. Over the last few days, I have recieved over 200 emails reguarding the Monacan and Cherokee issue, from members of all the various surname's listed on the roll. And the post are still coming in. I promise that each and everyone WILL be answered. And if I can't give you an answer to your questions, I will either direct you to or tell you were to get answers. It may take me a week or so to answer them all, "but you will get a reply". I can't tell you how much your comments mean to me in many of those post. I would like to THANK all you list administrators for allowing me to bring this issue to the attention of your subscribers. I will be leaving your list at the end of the day, and I have really enjoyed my visit here. Folks, in reguards to the info supplied, please just do what you feel is the right thing to do. If you know or were told that these are your Cherokee family members, say so. If they are Monacan and you can prove it, say so as well. Saying it to me is fine, but the folks who need your letters are the Bureau of Indian Affairs. I know their site is down right now, due to the Cobell Litigation, but please keep trying. The US Senate link is also down, but I believe that is because our country is on high alert. I have also spoken with Chief White Eagle, who sit's on the Council of Chief's in Missouri and The Western Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma. He has sent me the address below for you to write to. CHEROKEE TRIBE CONTACTS: Yes they can send the Letter's to this Address, ( Blue Ridge Band of Cherokee ) P. O. Box 1024 Bedford Co, Virginia ( 24523 ) ADDITIONAL CONTACTS ARE: <A HREF="http://aolsearch.aol.com/redir.adp?appname=MS&query=BIA&url=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2edoi%2egov%2fbureau%2dindian%2daffairs%2ehtml&datasource=Google&partner=Google&clickedItemRank=1&requestId=cns80399&component=websearch.google.http.tcl&searchType=MS">This Website is Temporarily Unavailable</A> - The BIA website as well as the BIA mail servers have been made temporarily unavailable due to the Cobell Litigation. ... For general BIA information: 202 208-3710. ... http://www.doi.gov/bureau-indian-affairs.html For general BIA information: 202 208-3710 For Tribal Leaders Directory: 202 208-3711 SENATE CONTACT: <A HREF="http://www.senate.gov/~campbell/email.htm"> U.S. Senator Ben Nighthorse Campbell - Email</A> Heres how to contact Senator Ben Nighthorse Campbell or send him an electronic mail message: I have six offices conveniently located ... http://www.senate.gov/~campbell/email.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------------------- VIRGINIA CONTACTS: <A HREF="http://warner.senate.gov/"> Senator John Warner</A> http://warner.senate.gov/ <A HREF="http://allen.senate.gov/email.html"> Office of U.S. Senator George Allen</A> ... In order to ensure Senator Allen has full information about his constituents interests and concerns, please use the following form to contact him. ... http://allen.senate.gov/email.html <A HREF="http://allen.senate.gov/PressOffice/06272002.htm"> Senator Allen Introduces Bill to Recognize 6 Virginia Indian Tribes</A> ... Tribe - Eastern Division, the Upper Mattaponi Tribe, the Rappahannock Tribe Inc., the Monacan Tribe and the Nansemond Tribe. Should the legislation pass, those ... http://allen.senate.gov/PressOffice/06272002. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------------------------------- MONACAN CONTACTS: <A HREF="http://www.monacannation.com/contact.shtml"> Monacan Indian Nation: Contact Us</A> http://www.monacannation.com/contact.shtml <A HREF="http://indians.vipnet.org/"> Virginia Council On Indians Home Page</A> http://indians.vipnet.org/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------ OTHER LINKS: <A HREF="http://www.indiancountry.com/?338"> ICT [2001/07/18] Virginia tribes renew fight for federal recognition</A> ... and the Monacan Nation. All of our tribes have already been granted state recognition, said Chief Barry Bass of the Nansemond Tribe. Federal legislation is ... http://www.indiancountry.com/?338 Bright Star

    02/09/2003 05:53:29
    1. Re: [HAM] Do Hamiltons generally originate from England, Scotland and Ireland?
    2. Pamela Singleton
    3. Thanks for that piece of history Donnelle, you seem to lean new things each time you log on to the message board. I made an error in the first name of my gggrandmother, her name was Jane, not Jean Hamilton m John Cullen, 26 June 1853, had a son William Morrison 26 April 1854, Laurieston, Gorbals, Lanark, Scotland, d Ormond Vic 1937. It was after William's b and bef the b of Sarah McLean Cullen at Melbourne, 1857 d[GRANT] Caulfield Vic 1927 that Jane and John migrated. Other children b. in Australia: John Hamilton b1858 Nth. Melbourne John[Robert] McDonald b. 1860 Melbourne d 1935 Brunswick Grace Johnstone b. 12 Feb 1861 Carlton, Melbourne, d [CLARKE]24 June 1939 Cottesloe Perth West Australia My GGrandmother Thomas McFarlane b 1862 Care d 1929 Brunswick. Isabella Jaffery b 1863 Melb d 1920 Ghuntly Alexander Dickson b 1865 Melb no dod Andrew Allen b 1867 Melb. d 1934 West Brunswick Vic David Hastie b. 1869 Melb. d no dod James Balfour 1870 Melb no dod There is a reg of d no3271 for EVANS, Jane Neal 1894 aged 37, dau of John Cullen and Jane Hamilton. I am now wondering if this Jane could be a twin of Sarah [1857] or John [1858] For those that are unaware, the states of Australia were known as the Colony of, pre Federation 1 Jan 1901. ALL births except William's were in the then Colony of Victoria. I hope that some one out there is able to assist me in this search, as I only have the names of the children except Grace, but no details of the family pre the mar in 1853 in Scotland. Sorry I didn't sign off last time, I WAS called away. Pamela Perth West Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donnelle" <donnelle.hamilton@xtra.co.nz> To: <HAMILTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 4:25 AM Subject: Re: [HAM] Do Hamiltons generally originate from England, Scotland and Ireland? > The City of Hamilton, New Zealand was named after Captain John Fane Charles > HAMILTON, R.N., Commander of H.M.S. Esk, who was killed while leading the > Naval Brigade in the assault on Gate Pa, Tauranga, on 30th April 1864. The > military settlement which has now become the City of Hamilton was named in > his honour. > > John Fane Charles Hamilton was born in 1821. His father was a Colonel, his > maternal grandfather an LL.D., an eminent agriculturist and for many years > M.P. for Oxford, England. An uncle was a Rear-Admiral. > > John F.C. Hamilton joined the Navy when only 14. During the period when he > was 20-22 years old he was present, either in boats or on the shore at > engagements at Amoy, Chinghae, Segoan, Charpoo and Woosyung in China. > > He served on some peaceful stations and was promoted to Lieutenant when 23 > years old. He was promoted again for his services at the Siege of > Sebastapol in the Crimean War. It was here that his crew presented him with > the sword which his descendants have handed over to the City of Hamilton > together with his decoration. > > His decorations were; > -British China War with the following clasps: -China 1842, Fatshan 1857, > Canton 1857. > -British Crimea Medal -one clasp - Sebastapol > -Turkish Decoration -Order of Medijide. > -Turkish Crimea Medal -La Crimea 1855. > > At the age of 37 he became a captain, and during the Maori Wars he was sent > to New Zealand in command of H.M.S. Esk. She was a corvette of 1169 tons. > For those days her armament was powerful: 16 plain bored 8-inch guns, 4 > 40-pounder and 1 110-pounder Armstrong field guns,. > > At the Battle of Gate Pa, Tauranga, Captain Hamilton was in charge of the > reserve. When the main arrack was in confusion Hamilton made an heroic > effort to stay the panic, but was shot leading his men. He was then 40 > years old. > > He was an able officer and held the confidence of his men. He was also a > great favourite with the officers and all of the arms who were acquainted > with him. No doubt his popularity and his excellent service record were the > reasons why Colonel William Moule chose Hamilton as the name of the new > settlement in he Waikato, the site for which was fixed shortly afterward. > > The Hamilton City Council has given the sword and decorations a place of > honour in the council chambers. > > from the Waikato Times Hamilton Centenary Issue, Monday August 2 1864. > (Some confusion with the birth date and age. I am not related in any > way -that I know of. I have no further info on the family.) > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Pamela Singleton <sinfox@iinet.net.au> > To: <HAMILTON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 12:04 AM > Subject: Re: [HAM] Do Hamiltons generally originate from England, Scotland > and Ireland? > > > > All of the discussion so far has been migration to America and Canada, > whist > > I acknowledge that this is correct, may I add an omission. Like Dean I am > > searching for a Hamilton, Jean dob unknown in Lanark Scotland, mar John > > CULLEN 26 June 1853 Gorbals, Lanark Scotland. > > Jean & John like many other either by freewill or force > > [CONVICTS1788-1868]left the shores of Britain for AUSTRALIA and NEW > ZEALAND. > > We don't know the count down here or NZ, though it is many. For those that > > are unaware, a major city in NZ is called Hamilton. There are one or two > in > > Australia also. Jean and John settled in Melbourne, Colony of Victoria > > between 1854 -6. If anyone can help I would appreciate it. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Dean Shipley" <shipley@midsouth.rr.com> > > To: <HAMILTON-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 1:01 PM > > Subject: Re: [HAM] Do Hamiltons generally originate from England, Scotland > > and Ireland? > > > > > > > Since Hamilton's from the 1600's are being mentioned below...does anyone > > > have any info about a John Hamilton &/or Mary Grimball??? > > > > > > I do know that Mary's parents were Paul Grimball & Mary Stoney both of > > whom > > > were born in England & died in Colleton County South Carolina. > > > > > > Any info would be greatly appreciated. > > > > > > Dean Shipley > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Garth A. Hamilton - VE3HO" <garth@ve3ho.com> > > > To: <HAMILTON-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 1:30 PM > > > Subject: Re: [HAM] Do Hamiltons generally originate from England, > Scotland > > > and Ireland? > > > > > > > > > > Ancestral Seat in Scotland of the Duke of Hamilton is the city of > > Hamilton > > > located SE of Glasgow sort of 1/3 of the way from Glasgow to Newcastle. > > > > > > > > Many Hamilton's were Weslyan Methodists like my ancestors and due to > > > difficulties in Scotland were persuaded to migrate to Ireland where the > > > British Crown wanted Prostestant landlords and tenants, most settling in > > > Ulster (Ulster being todays Northern Ireland plus two more counties in > > > current day Ireland) about 1630. The population growth in Ireland and > the > > > dividing of original land holdings to sons over the next 200 years meant > > > that by the early 1800 over crowding had lead to many young people being > > > encouraged to immigrate to Canada and the USA. Many came to Canada > before > > > the great famine encouraged by free transportation for those who prove > > they > > > had the funds to set up a farm on land granted by the Crown in Upper and > > > Lower Canada (todays Quebec and Ontario). Again the British Crown > wanting > > > Protestant English speakers in the area to increase there numbers. > > > > > > > > I am not familiar with the numbers of Scottish people who immigrated > to > > > other than Ireland in the 1630's but there would certainly have been > those > > > who through marriage would choose to go to Northern England or France. > > Some > > > of my ancestors went to the area along the Tyne in addition to Ulster. > > > > > > > > Starting about 1830 the numbers of immigrants from Ireland to the USA > > > started a dramatic rise reaching a peak about 1834 in Canada and 1847 or > > so > > > in the USA with many going to Pennsylvania and Kentucky. Many of those > who > > > immigrated to Canada in turn immigrated from Canada to the USA as well. > In > > > 1865 many were enticed from other parts of Quebec to the Eastern > townships > > > of Quebec where very good farm land was made available for them and in > the > > > case of my family in Compton County, and the area around Randboro on the > > > border with the US and intermarried with US families of Northern Vermont > > and > > > New Hampshire. > > > > > > > > I am not as familiar with the direct immigration from Scotland to the > > > North America, but there was certainly a great deal of it in the 1700's > > and > > > 1800's as well. I do not have any numbers to prove this but I suspect > that > > > most Hamilton's arrived from Scotland via Ulster, the next largest group > > > from Scotland direct and then the group from Scotland via England and a > > > smallest group from Scotland via France. > > > > > > > > regards > > > > Garth Hamilton > > > > > > > > At 08:35 AM 06.02.2003 -0600, you wrote: > > > > >I believe that the ancestral home of the Hamiltons is near Glasgow, > > > > >Scotland, in the lowlands of Scotland. There are many Hamiltons in > N. > > > > >Ireland too as that whole area was at one time a giant sea kingdom, > > with > > > > >lots of passage back and forth between Scotland and Ireland, as > > commerce > > > and > > > > >the winds of politics changed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== HAMILTON Mailing List ==== > > > > >Looking for a USA location? > > > > >Try http://www-nmd.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html > > > > > > > > > >============================== > > > > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, > > > go to: > > > > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== HAMILTON Mailing List ==== > > > > Looking for a USA location? > > > > Try http://www-nmd.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, > > > go to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== HAMILTON Mailing List ==== > > > Great search engine > > > http://www.familytreemagazine.com/search/ > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== HAMILTON Mailing List ==== > > Clan Hamilton Society > > web site: www.clanhamilton.org **NEW** > > email: Secretary@clanhamilton.org > > snail mail: Clan Hamilton Society, P.O.Box 71881, Charleston, SC 29415 > > contact: Philip G. Dixon, secretary, sectychs@juno.com for more info! > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ==== HAMILTON Mailing List ==== > Looking for a USA location? > Try http://www-nmd.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

    02/08/2003 02:41:09
    1. [HAM] HAMILTON Co. Down Ireland
    2. legarthm
    3. Looking for anything about Joseph HAMILTON Father of Margaret who married William PHAIR in 1839, he seemed to be from the townland of Clare, Tullylish Parish, witnesses were Alexander & William HAMILTON. IN 1835 Elleanor Hamilton married Samuel FINLAY & the witnesses were Joseph & William Hamilton. We think that the 2 women were sisters, & possibly Joseph was dead by 1839, although there is Joseph Hamilton buried age 70 yrs in 1871, Tullylish Parish, but no Townland. Any contacts out there ??? Mary New Zealand

    02/08/2003 11:22:43
    1. Re: [HAM] Samuel William Hamilton
    2. Nancy Dorian
    3. Jarrod, In what state was Samuel Hamilton born? Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: <BluEyedIndian77@netscape.net> To: <HAMILTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 9:10 PM Subject: [HAM] Samuel William Hamilton > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Hamilton/Williams/Booker > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xFh.2ACEB/3439 > > Message Board Post: > > I am looking for any information on a Samuel William Hamilton Who's parents are Ellie Williams, full blood Indian and John Wesley Hamilton. Samuel was born on April 17, 1875 Died March 8, 1955 , he was a preacher..he married Caroline Jane Williams, and had my great grandmother Lorena Peal Hamilton and she married Archie Otis Booker..Please Email Me > Jarrod > > > ==== HAMILTON Mailing List ==== > Great search engine > http://www.familytreemagazine.com/search/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

    02/08/2003 02:37:02
    1. Re: [HAM] Do Hamiltons generally originate from England, Scotland and Ireland?
    2. Donnelle
    3. The City of Hamilton, New Zealand was named after Captain John Fane Charles HAMILTON, R.N., Commander of H.M.S. Esk, who was killed while leading the Naval Brigade in the assault on Gate Pa, Tauranga, on 30th April 1864. The military settlement which has now become the City of Hamilton was named in his honour. John Fane Charles Hamilton was born in 1821. His father was a Colonel, his maternal grandfather an LL.D., an eminent agriculturist and for many years M.P. for Oxford, England. An uncle was a Rear-Admiral. John F.C. Hamilton joined the Navy when only 14. During the period when he was 20-22 years old he was present, either in boats or on the shore at engagements at Amoy, Chinghae, Segoan, Charpoo and Woosyung in China. He served on some peaceful stations and was promoted to Lieutenant when 23 years old. He was promoted again for his services at the Siege of Sebastapol in the Crimean War. It was here that his crew presented him with the sword which his descendants have handed over to the City of Hamilton together with his decoration. His decorations were; -British China War with the following clasps: -China 1842, Fatshan 1857, Canton 1857. -British Crimea Medal -one clasp - Sebastapol -Turkish Decoration -Order of Medijide. -Turkish Crimea Medal -La Crimea 1855. At the age of 37 he became a captain, and during the Maori Wars he was sent to New Zealand in command of H.M.S. Esk. She was a corvette of 1169 tons. For those days her armament was powerful: 16 plain bored 8-inch guns, 4 40-pounder and 1 110-pounder Armstrong field guns,. At the Battle of Gate Pa, Tauranga, Captain Hamilton was in charge of the reserve. When the main arrack was in confusion Hamilton made an heroic effort to stay the panic, but was shot leading his men. He was then 40 years old. He was an able officer and held the confidence of his men. He was also a great favourite with the officers and all of the arms who were acquainted with him. No doubt his popularity and his excellent service record were the reasons why Colonel William Moule chose Hamilton as the name of the new settlement in he Waikato, the site for which was fixed shortly afterward. The Hamilton City Council has given the sword and decorations a place of honour in the council chambers. from the Waikato Times Hamilton Centenary Issue, Monday August 2 1864. (Some confusion with the birth date and age. I am not related in any way -that I know of. I have no further info on the family.) ----- Original Message ----- From: Pamela Singleton <sinfox@iinet.net.au> To: <HAMILTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 12:04 AM Subject: Re: [HAM] Do Hamiltons generally originate from England, Scotland and Ireland? > All of the discussion so far has been migration to America and Canada, whist > I acknowledge that this is correct, may I add an omission. Like Dean I am > searching for a Hamilton, Jean dob unknown in Lanark Scotland, mar John > CULLEN 26 June 1853 Gorbals, Lanark Scotland. > Jean & John like many other either by freewill or force > [CONVICTS1788-1868]left the shores of Britain for AUSTRALIA and NEW ZEALAND. > We don't know the count down here or NZ, though it is many. For those that > are unaware, a major city in NZ is called Hamilton. There are one or two in > Australia also. Jean and John settled in Melbourne, Colony of Victoria > between 1854 -6. If anyone can help I would appreciate it. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dean Shipley" <shipley@midsouth.rr.com> > To: <HAMILTON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 1:01 PM > Subject: Re: [HAM] Do Hamiltons generally originate from England, Scotland > and Ireland? > > > > Since Hamilton's from the 1600's are being mentioned below...does anyone > > have any info about a John Hamilton &/or Mary Grimball??? > > > > I do know that Mary's parents were Paul Grimball & Mary Stoney both of > whom > > were born in England & died in Colleton County South Carolina. > > > > Any info would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Dean Shipley > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Garth A. Hamilton - VE3HO" <garth@ve3ho.com> > > To: <HAMILTON-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 1:30 PM > > Subject: Re: [HAM] Do Hamiltons generally originate from England, Scotland > > and Ireland? > > > > > > > Ancestral Seat in Scotland of the Duke of Hamilton is the city of > Hamilton > > located SE of Glasgow sort of 1/3 of the way from Glasgow to Newcastle. > > > > > > Many Hamilton's were Weslyan Methodists like my ancestors and due to > > difficulties in Scotland were persuaded to migrate to Ireland where the > > British Crown wanted Prostestant landlords and tenants, most settling in > > Ulster (Ulster being todays Northern Ireland plus two more counties in > > current day Ireland) about 1630. The population growth in Ireland and the > > dividing of original land holdings to sons over the next 200 years meant > > that by the early 1800 over crowding had lead to many young people being > > encouraged to immigrate to Canada and the USA. Many came to Canada before > > the great famine encouraged by free transportation for those who prove > they > > had the funds to set up a farm on land granted by the Crown in Upper and > > Lower Canada (todays Quebec and Ontario). Again the British Crown wanting > > Protestant English speakers in the area to increase there numbers. > > > > > > I am not familiar with the numbers of Scottish people who immigrated to > > other than Ireland in the 1630's but there would certainly have been those > > who through marriage would choose to go to Northern England or France. > Some > > of my ancestors went to the area along the Tyne in addition to Ulster. > > > > > > Starting about 1830 the numbers of immigrants from Ireland to the USA > > started a dramatic rise reaching a peak about 1834 in Canada and 1847 or > so > > in the USA with many going to Pennsylvania and Kentucky. Many of those who > > immigrated to Canada in turn immigrated from Canada to the USA as well. In > > 1865 many were enticed from other parts of Quebec to the Eastern townships > > of Quebec where very good farm land was made available for them and in the > > case of my family in Compton County, and the area around Randboro on the > > border with the US and intermarried with US families of Northern Vermont > and > > New Hampshire. > > > > > > I am not as familiar with the direct immigration from Scotland to the > > North America, but there was certainly a great deal of it in the 1700's > and > > 1800's as well. I do not have any numbers to prove this but I suspect that > > most Hamilton's arrived from Scotland via Ulster, the next largest group > > from Scotland direct and then the group from Scotland via England and a > > smallest group from Scotland via France. > > > > > > regards > > > Garth Hamilton > > > > > > At 08:35 AM 06.02.2003 -0600, you wrote: > > > >I believe that the ancestral home of the Hamiltons is near Glasgow, > > > >Scotland, in the lowlands of Scotland. There are many Hamiltons in N. > > > >Ireland too as that whole area was at one time a giant sea kingdom, > with > > > >lots of passage back and forth between Scotland and Ireland, as > commerce > > and > > > >the winds of politics changed. > > > > > > > > > > > >==== HAMILTON Mailing List ==== > > > >Looking for a USA location? > > > >Try http://www-nmd.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html > > > > > > > >============================== > > > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== HAMILTON Mailing List ==== > > > Looking for a USA location? > > > Try http://www-nmd.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== HAMILTON Mailing List ==== > > Great search engine > > http://www.familytreemagazine.com/search/ > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== HAMILTON Mailing List ==== > Clan Hamilton Society > web site: www.clanhamilton.org **NEW** > email: Secretary@clanhamilton.org > snail mail: Clan Hamilton Society, P.O.Box 71881, Charleston, SC 29415 > contact: Philip G. Dixon, secretary, sectychs@juno.com for more info! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

    02/08/2003 02:25:10
    1. [HAM] Hamiltons from Crieff Perthshire
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xFh.2ACEB/3435.2 Message Board Post: Traced family back as far as Crieff anybody out there that can help.

    02/07/2003 09:44:32
    1. [HAM] HAMILTON_O_C_and_Dorothy_Louise.JPG
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: HAMILTON Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xFh.2ACEB/3440 Message Board Post: I photographed this tombstone in the Moore Cemetery, Arlington, Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use the picture for your records. This is one of the 33,859 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com

    02/07/2003 09:36:33
    1. Re: [HAM] Monacan Original Rolls 1700--- page 3 of 4
    2. legarthm
    3. Where is Monacan ? A Parish, Town, Village ? Like, is it part of Scotland, Northern Ireland, England, or the name of a farm somewhere in Australia or New Zealand. ? I am looking for Joseph Hamilton from some where, in Nth Ireland, probably Co. Down Ulster, or Nthern Ireland. Mary in New Zealand. ----- Original Message ----- From: <BrightStar9136@aol.com> To: <HAMILTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 7:23 PM Subject: [HAM] Monacan Original Rolls 1700--- page 3 of 4 > Please note: Page three and four do not have any marriage dates on them. > > Thomas John----m-----Mary Mehane > Haywood Duff------m----Mittie Lee Johns > Johnny Johns-----m----- Minnie Adcock > Violan Duff-----m-----Eddia Adcock > Tom Johns------m----Leota Levi Johns > Sam Roberts---m----Nellie Roberts > Samuel Beverly----m---Rhoda Beverly > Nelson H. Clark---m----Franky Clark > Frank Johns------m------Emma Willis > John C. Clark------m-----Margaret Tyree > William B. Johns---m---Frances Lawless > Frederick Beverly---m---Sarah Beverly > John Roberts------m-----Frances Roberts > Richard Branham---m---Christian Branham > Elisha Willis-------m------Melinda Adcock > Obidah Nuckles----m-----Susan Knuckles > Wyatt Hamilton----m------Peggy Hamilton > Oliver Terry--------m---------Ethelle Terry > Preston Johns-------m------Louisa Johns > Robert Adcock-----m--------Molly Johns > Nick Terry------------m--------Mary Johns > Walter Branham----m-------Delia Terry > Vest Branham------m--------Vicie Johns > Frank Johns---------m---------Emma Willis > H.A. Clark-----------m----------Cora A. Tyree > W.H. Clark---------m----------Nancy Clark > Varland Duff---------m---------Etta Duff > Adolphus Beverly----m-------Leanna Burch > William Clark--------m---------Bessie Redcross > Douglas Duff---------m---------Annie Hicks > James C. Clark------m--------Flora Tyree > Alex Johns----------m----------Ollie Duff > Reese Adcox--------m---------Loula Branham > James Johns---------m---------Lizzie Johns > William Robert Bowman-------m---Aria Knuckles > Bowman Knuckles------m-----Daisy Johns > Luther Johns----------m---------Cammie Branham > Abraham Branham-----m-------Willie Ann Willis > Stewart Terry-----------m----------Cecil Hamilton > Haywood Duff---------m------------Mittie Lee Johns > Schyler Branham------m--------Mealie Johns > Scott Johns------------m----------Eva Willis > Harry L. Branham------m---------Edith Johns > Kinkle Johns------------m----------Mary Jane Branham Knuckles > Willie Boy Hamilton-----m--------Hattie Bell Branham > Charlie Hamilton-------m----------Callie Hicks > George Hicks-----------m----------Maggie Roberts > Frank Johns-------------m-----------Emma Willis > Samuel Johns----------m-----------Essie Hicks > > > submitted by Bright Star > Feb--2003

    02/07/2003 02:31:26
    1. Re: Re: [HAM] Samuel Hamilton - GA>ARK>OK
    2. Ah Linda that was funny. I needed a laugh, but it is so true. Pat Killian wife of Michael Stuart Killian born 1947 AL > Florence Estelle Johnson born 1920 AL > Rhetta Florence Hamilton 7/27/1895 AL > Robert Henry Hamilton 11/3/1859 AL > William Hamilton born 6/7/1836 Al > George Washington Hamilton about 1815 MA or SC census' differ from year to year > and I think William Hamilton between 1770-1780 unsure where or if he is ours but is indicated by location of William and George in 1840 census Ala Coosa County and by the constant naming pattern of William. I'm proud I've gotten this far. I've seen some that haven't gotten past 1900's. I think no matter how far I get, there will always be a hint of a question, "Now where did he come from and who were his parents"? Pat Killian > > From: "Diane Renfrow" <dhrenfrow@cox.net> > Date: 2003/02/07 Fri PM 12:51:13 EST > To: HAMILTON-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [HAM] Samuel Hamilton - GA>ARK>OK > > Dear Linda, > If you find a record of the space ship,see if there is a passenger > manifest,I have a Hamilton or two who might have been on board with your > Samuel. > Thank you > Diane Renfrow > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Ljs755@aol.com> > To: <HAMILTON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 6:49 AM > Subject: [HAM] Samuel Hamilton - GA>ARK>OK > > > > Hi All - Thought I'd repost my Samuel Hamilton - the one who came from > > outer space, married, had a kid, then he got back into the space ship and > > vanished - never to be heard of again. He was born 1840, Columbus, > > Muskogee Co, GA. He married Mary Francis Baker (she was born 1859 Carroll > > Co, ARK). His daughter Annie Launa Hamilton was born 1888 Allen, Pontotoc > > Co, OK. I have absolutely no information on Samuel or his parents, etc. > > Thanks All ! Linda > > > > > > ==== HAMILTON Mailing List ==== > > Need some help getting started with irc (INTERNET RELAY CHAT)? > > Try: http://home.flash.net/~gen4m/ > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ==== HAMILTON Mailing List ==== > Need some help getting started with irc (INTERNET RELAY CHAT)? > Try: http://home.flash.net/~gen4m/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

    02/07/2003 02:13:23
    1. [HAM] Samuel William Hamilton
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Hamilton/Williams/Booker Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xFh.2ACEB/3439 Message Board Post: I am looking for any information on a Samuel William Hamilton Who's parents are Ellie Williams, full blood Indian and John Wesley Hamilton. Samuel was born on April 17, 1875 Died March 8, 1955 , he was a preacher..he married Caroline Jane Williams, and had my great grandmother Lorena Peal Hamilton and she married Archie Otis Booker..Please Email Me Jarrod

    02/07/2003 02:10:01
    1. [HAM] Ethel Hamilton from NC
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Hamilton Graves Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xFh.2ACEB/3438 Message Board Post: Ethel Hamilton from NC (see Census below) Married Victor "VIC" Graves from Chesterfield Co., South Carolina Married 24 Dec 1912 Children see in below Census. Assumption Ethel is from North Carolina counties near Chesterfield Co., South Carolina Have you heard of her, parents or children? =============== Census Year: 1930 / North Carolina / Union County / ED21 / Monroe Twp. / Page: 6B Graves, Victor Head M W 41 M SC SC NC Machinist-Shop Graves, Ethel Wife F W 37 M NC SC NC Laborer-Mill Graves, Virginia Dau. F W 14 S SC SC NC Graves, Billy Son M W 12 S SC SC NC Graves, Fannie Dau. F W 8 S SC SC NC

    02/07/2003 01:55:38
    1. Re: [HAM] Do Hamiltons generally originate from England, Scotland and Ireland?
    2. Pamela Singleton
    3. All of the discussion so far has been migration to America and Canada, whist I acknowledge that this is correct, may I add an omission. Like Dean I am searching for a Hamilton, Jean dob unknown in Lanark Scotland, mar John CULLEN 26 June 1853 Gorbals, Lanark Scotland. Jean & John like many other either by freewill or force [CONVICTS1788-1868]left the shores of Britain for AUSTRALIA and NEW ZEALAND. We don't know the count down here or NZ, though it is many. For those that are unaware, a major city in NZ is called Hamilton. There are one or two in Australia also. Jean and John settled in Melbourne, Colony of Victoria between 1854 -6. If anyone can help I would appreciate it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dean Shipley" <shipley@midsouth.rr.com> To: <HAMILTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [HAM] Do Hamiltons generally originate from England, Scotland and Ireland? > Since Hamilton's from the 1600's are being mentioned below...does anyone > have any info about a John Hamilton &/or Mary Grimball??? > > I do know that Mary's parents were Paul Grimball & Mary Stoney both of whom > were born in England & died in Colleton County South Carolina. > > Any info would be greatly appreciated. > > Dean Shipley > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Garth A. Hamilton - VE3HO" <garth@ve3ho.com> > To: <HAMILTON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 1:30 PM > Subject: Re: [HAM] Do Hamiltons generally originate from England, Scotland > and Ireland? > > > > Ancestral Seat in Scotland of the Duke of Hamilton is the city of Hamilton > located SE of Glasgow sort of 1/3 of the way from Glasgow to Newcastle. > > > > Many Hamilton's were Weslyan Methodists like my ancestors and due to > difficulties in Scotland were persuaded to migrate to Ireland where the > British Crown wanted Prostestant landlords and tenants, most settling in > Ulster (Ulster being todays Northern Ireland plus two more counties in > current day Ireland) about 1630. The population growth in Ireland and the > dividing of original land holdings to sons over the next 200 years meant > that by the early 1800 over crowding had lead to many young people being > encouraged to immigrate to Canada and the USA. Many came to Canada before > the great famine encouraged by free transportation for those who prove they > had the funds to set up a farm on land granted by the Crown in Upper and > Lower Canada (todays Quebec and Ontario). Again the British Crown wanting > Protestant English speakers in the area to increase there numbers. > > > > I am not familiar with the numbers of Scottish people who immigrated to > other than Ireland in the 1630's but there would certainly have been those > who through marriage would choose to go to Northern England or France. Some > of my ancestors went to the area along the Tyne in addition to Ulster. > > > > Starting about 1830 the numbers of immigrants from Ireland to the USA > started a dramatic rise reaching a peak about 1834 in Canada and 1847 or so > in the USA with many going to Pennsylvania and Kentucky. Many of those who > immigrated to Canada in turn immigrated from Canada to the USA as well. In > 1865 many were enticed from other parts of Quebec to the Eastern townships > of Quebec where very good farm land was made available for them and in the > case of my family in Compton County, and the area around Randboro on the > border with the US and intermarried with US families of Northern Vermont and > New Hampshire. > > > > I am not as familiar with the direct immigration from Scotland to the > North America, but there was certainly a great deal of it in the 1700's and > 1800's as well. I do not have any numbers to prove this but I suspect that > most Hamilton's arrived from Scotland via Ulster, the next largest group > from Scotland direct and then the group from Scotland via England and a > smallest group from Scotland via France. > > > > regards > > Garth Hamilton > > > > At 08:35 AM 06.02.2003 -0600, you wrote: > > >I believe that the ancestral home of the Hamiltons is near Glasgow, > > >Scotland, in the lowlands of Scotland. There are many Hamiltons in N. > > >Ireland too as that whole area was at one time a giant sea kingdom, with > > >lots of passage back and forth between Scotland and Ireland, as commerce > and > > >the winds of politics changed. > > > > > > > > >==== HAMILTON Mailing List ==== > > >Looking for a USA location? > > >Try http://www-nmd.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html > > > > > >============================== > > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== HAMILTON Mailing List ==== > > Looking for a USA location? > > Try http://www-nmd.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== HAMILTON Mailing List ==== > Great search engine > http://www.familytreemagazine.com/search/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

    02/07/2003 12:04:16
    1. [HAM] Monacan--vs---Cherokee------Where do we go from here?
    2. Hello list members, Thank you for all your post. I am new on this list and I am only trying to make folks aware of the situation with the Monacan Indians and Cherokee Indians geneologys, and because your surname is mentioned within. I personally have nothing to gain by either tribe. I am a Lenapah and my grandmothers people were of the Delaware Nation Indians, who were adopted by the Cherokee.I don't have any cards , nor do I want any, I have no Chief and no I don't live on a reservation. (for those of you who asked) I will tell anyone on any list, I am more then willing to help folks find their NA roots. I don't care what tribe they are. I have been helping people for almost 4 years now. My specialty is the Cherokee Freedmen. And I work very hard at all I do. In reguards to the Monacan-Cherokee families, I have had the oppurtunity to know and speak with both sides. I personally have nothing against the Monacan Indians. But I will say that if they are not Monacan and are Cherokee, then they need to seek Cherokee tribal status and not Monacan tribal status. I do not want to hear the words: "Well so what if they are Cherokee?" This has been said to me about 5 different times from various people. Well I think the Cherokee would have somthing to say about that. I have watched comments for months on both sides and after seeing the comments made below by a major supporter of the Monacan, I can only conclude that there is real basis for the questions reguarding their Monacan tribal status. We now have their own supporters stating that the geneology is inaccurate. <A HREF="http://www.joepayne.org/mallory.htm"> http://www.joepayne.org/mallory.htm</A> http://www.joepayne.org/mallory.htm I would like to add that I really don't think the fault is with the Monacan families. I believe the fault is with Dr. Peter Houch and his book "Indian Island". The Monacan Indians of Amherst VA, recieved their state reconition because of the book. Well not only are their documents to show that an article in the book has been altered, but again we have a Monacan major supporter saying he believes they made a mistake. I believe many of these families may have been mislead. I personnally want to reach out to these families and help them find their true roots. I am more then willing to work with any Monacan family of the tribe. If this was a matter of just a few geneologys being mixed up, then that would be one thing.That I think could be resolved. But it is simply not the case. And when a supporter of the Monacan says, that the marriage of Robert Johns and Mary Indian are incorrect, well what is left? You then have a tribal roster of names claiming to be their desendents, which just isn't true. I wonder if it is true that Dr Peter Houck started his publishing Co with the making of this book? I wonder were the proceeds of his book went to? Who were the original people who got these families together for interviews? I wonder what connections Dr. Houck has to politicians in the state of Virginia? Why are the Monacan trying to by-pass the Bureau of Indian Affairs, as other tribes have had to do? So as you can see, my research into all of this is far from over. Too many questions to be answered. I will be leaving your list in on Sunday, but I welcome any questions, concerns, comments you may have on this issue. You can contact me at: BrightStar9136@aol.com Below are a few links reguarding the Monacan tribe. <A HREF="http://mytwobeadsworth.com/VAtribes928.html"> Administration opposes recognition of Va. Indian tribes My Two Beads Worth</A> http://mytwobeadsworth.com/VAtribes928.html <A HREF="http://www.doi.gov/ocl/2002/hr2345.htm"> Mike Smith, Chickahominy, Upper Mattaponi, Rappahannock, Monacan, 2345, H. R. 2345</A> http://www.doi.gov/ocl/2002/hr2345.htm <A HREF="http://www.indiancountry.com/?2439"> ICT [2000/12/06] Virginia tribes continue push for federal recognition</A> http://www.indiancountry.com/?2439 <A HREF="http://home.infi.net/~toniam/feature/appindians.html"> tonia moxley</A> http://home.infi.net/~toniam/feature/appindians.html <A HREF="http://www.newstribune.com/stories/050102/wor_0501020008.asp"> News Tribune - Six Indian tribes to meet in rare Virginia powwow to draw support for sovereignty status 05/01/02</A> http://www.newstribune.com/stories/050102/wor_0501020008.asp Bright Star

    02/07/2003 10:27:56
    1. Re: [HAM] John Hamilton: NY to Tennessee
    2. kenneth baker
    3. Ya know, those with lost HAMILTONS should check out the Monacan/Cherokee Rolls with BrightStar136@aol.com there are a bunch of Thread-John-Hamiltons thar! Velly interesting! ken Hamilton/Sparks baker wbdav@dalton.net wrote: > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xFh.2ACEB/3437 > > Message Board Post: > > Haven't posted in a while but I am still looking for the parents of John Hamilton b. 1803 in Westchester County, NY. He married Rachel Wester in Roane County, TN, later moved to Dalton, GA and died 1853. Have documented almost all descendents but have never been able to learn parents names. The came into NY from Ulster in the 1700's. > > ==== HAMILTON Mailing List ==== > Hamilton National Genealogical Society, Inc. > 215 SW 20th Terrace - Oak Grove, MO 64075 > http:\\www.hamiltongensociety.org > hamgen@planetkc.com or membership@hamiltongensociety.org > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 -- ----------------------------------------------------- Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/freevideo/

    02/07/2003 10:24:26
    1. [HAM] Re: Do Hamiltons generally originate from England, Scotland and Ireland?
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xFh.2ACEB/3435.1 Message Board Post: Well certainly Scotland and Ireland - depends how far back you want to go. Dont know about England Regards

    02/07/2003 09:41:25