Hi Gordon, I am definitely interested in this special offer for the DNA project. What do I need to do? Thanks Bob Hamilton

----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Fortune" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 2:53 PM Subject: [HAM] More Free Sites > > What will you do with that $400 if you don't spend it on Ancestry? > Pay the electric bill, or go to Starbucks a few times? > Of course, I'm presuming that there is a "$400." > As I continue to search for the end of the internet, I am amazed at what > is available for free. We humans tend to think that free things are worth > just about what we paid for them, but I think we should reconsider. > On a Kansas genealogical web site, I found a full-page, trascribed > biography (from a book published in 1919) of my grandfather who died in > 1951. Extremely accurate, detailed, and provided more info than even my > older cousins remembered. > This was worth all the 'unproductive' hours I've spent on the net. > > I've also found third cousins, a fourth cousin, and my mother's dear first > cousin whom I remember from my childhood. He has photos I've never seen. > > Ancestry.com: $400. per year > Relatives: Priceless > > The hours are never wasted. You're just eliminating searches! >>From the Indian State Library site, under "Databases:" > Alphabetical Listing: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Ancestry Library: Online subscription available for use within the > Indiana State Library, allowing access to hundreds of databases including > indexes and images to US Federal Census records. > > FirstSearch: Online subscription available for use within the Indiana > State Library, allowing access to a number of databases and a > comprehensive catalog of libraries in the United States. > > HeritageQuest: Online subscription available for use within the Indiana > State Library, allowing access to hundreds of full-text books and other > sources. > > Mergent Online: Online subscription available for use within the Indiana > State Library; covers more than 10,000 US public companies and their SEC > filings, annual reports, and financial statements. > > New England Ancestors.org: Online subscription New England Historic > Genealogical Society databases > > Reference USA Online subscription Business Database of 12 million U.S. > Businesses > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Heraldry File: Card file index to illustrations of coats of arms found in > various sources in the Genealogy Division; alphabetically arranged by > name; gives call number of the book and a brief title citation. In the > Genealogy Division, first floor. > > > ==== HAMILTON Mailing List ==== > Looking for a USA location? > Try http://www-nmd.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.18/230 - Release Date: 1/14/2006 > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xFh.2ACEB/4430.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Karen. Yes we have corresponded before and it looks like you may have some additional information that I don't have. You very kindly passed along information to me in the past and I would appreciate anything new that you have. I still have copies of the emails that you sent me; I can send you copies so that you know what you gave me before. My email address is still [email protected] if you want to contact me directly. It has been a while since I posted anything looking for Juda so I thought I would try again. I haven't had a great deal of luck in locating pictures. I do have one of Juda's brother (my great-grandfather) Eber Wayne Willey. I also have Eber Willey, Jr.'s Civil War pension records - I don't know if I had those when we corresponded before. i would be happy to share whatever new info I have.

What will you do with that $400 if you don't spend it on Ancestry? Pay the electric bill, or go to Starbucks a few times? Of course, I'm presuming that there is a "$400." As I continue to search for the end of the internet, I am amazed at what is available for free. We humans tend to think that free things are worth just about what we paid for them, but I think we should reconsider. On a Kansas genealogical web site, I found a full-page, trascribed biography (from a book published in 1919) of my grandfather who died in 1951. Extremely accurate, detailed, and provided more info than even my older cousins remembered. This was worth all the 'unproductive' hours I've spent on the net. I've also found third cousins, a fourth cousin, and my mother's dear first cousin whom I remember from my childhood. He has photos I've never seen. Ancestry.com: $400. per year Relatives: Priceless The hours are never wasted. You're just eliminating searches! From the Indian State Library site, under "Databases:" Alphabetical Listing: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ancestry Library: Online subscription available for use within the Indiana State Library, allowing access to hundreds of databases including indexes and images to US Federal Census records. FirstSearch: Online subscription available for use within the Indiana State Library, allowing access to a number of databases and a comprehensive catalog of libraries in the United States. HeritageQuest: Online subscription available for use within the Indiana State Library, allowing access to hundreds of full-text books and other sources. Mergent Online: Online subscription available for use within the Indiana State Library; covers more than 10,000 US public companies and their SEC filings, annual reports, and financial statements. New England Ancestors.org: Online subscription New England Historic Genealogical Society databases Reference USA Online subscription Business Database of 12 million U.S. Businesses ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Heraldry File: Card file index to illustrations of coats of arms found in various sources in the Genealogy Division; alphabetically arranged by name; gives call number of the book and a brief title citation. In the Genealogy Division, first floor.

Genealogy Look Up Forum is a web site of volunteers who will do various types of look ups such as, Births, Deaths, Cemetery, Census, and Marriage. The site even has it own genealogy chat which is helpful to those wanting to get genealogy advice from a live person. The URL is below to visit this site. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~genealogylookup/ Also, the site called About.com is an absolute wealth of info on everything, including genealogy. About.com is a top 10 Web property used by one out of every five people on the Internet. (I'm 3 of those 5 people!) http://about.com/ or http://genealogy.about.com/ I have better luck with the table on the left than with the search feature. Susan

I am very interested in the Thomas and Jane McCracken Hamilton family. Did they live in New Jersey or Pennsylvania? I am looking for the parents of a James Hamilton; father possibly Thomas Hamilton. James was born in Scotland about 1725, lived briefly in Ireland where he married, then moved to the US, entering through Germantown, in Philadelphia. He lived for a time near Trenton, New Jersey before moving to Mount Bethel, near Easton, Pennsylvania, where he appears in tax records from 1761 until 1784 when he died. He had a son Thomas in 1752 by his first wife, then married Susannah Newman in 1759. (Information from Steve Newton: [email protected]) I am also interested in the DNA project and will send for the kit for my husband to use, as his is the Hamilton line. (Frederick Hamilton) Bonnie L Hamilton [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 4:05 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [HAM] Re: James Hamilton-b.1758 DNA test already done on this line. This Hamilton was named Thomas and he was married to Jane McCracken. Thomas and Jane Hamilton had at least three sons, Thomas JR, James and Robert. Terry, I have asked my brother, John David Hamilton if he would take the DNA test and he has agreed to do this. I will send an email to Gordon Hamilton and give him the information he will need. I spent a couple hours reading the DNA information that was available on the web sight and although it was a tough item for me to understand I finally got the consensus of what they were talking about. I read over the names of the ancestors that were listed and I didn't find any of my ancestors mentioned in the study. Our line was supposed to have come from Ulster Northern Ireland around 1749/50. This Hamilton was named Thomas and he was married to Jane McCracken. Thomas and Jane Hamilton had at least three sons, Thomas JR, James and Robert. Let me know what you find out. Myrta Elizabeth Hamilton Hessley ==== HAMILTON Mailing List ==== Visit http://www.hamiltongensociety.org/ Homepage of the Hamilton National Genealogical Society, Inc. and www.clanhamilton.org Homepage of Clan Hamilton Society

Thank you so much - I will look into this as suggested by others - appreciate your time in sharing - Candace Hamilton Conradt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Fortune" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 9:53 AM Subject: [HAM] Ancestry.com & Heritage Quest > There isn't a library close to me that has HQ. > I drove 45 miles to one that did, applied for & received a library card, went home, & have used HQ happily since. > > All I need is the library card number to access HQ on-line from home. > > Thank you, Benjamin Franklin, for our free public libraries! > > Susan > Southern California > > > ==== HAMILTON Mailing List ==== > Suggestions and complaints to list maintainer, not to the list! > [email protected] > > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.5/147 - Release Date: 10/24/2005 > >

There isn't a library close to me that has HQ. I drove 45 miles to one that did, applied for & received a library card, went home, & have used HQ happily since. All I need is the library card number to access HQ on-line from home. Thank you, Benjamin Franklin, for our free public libraries! Susan Southern California

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Hamilton Morrow Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xFh.2ACEB/4432 Message Board Post: I'm searching for descendants of William T. Hamilton b. c1851 Alabama who appears in the 1880 census Chickasaw Co Ms, 14 twp, pg 334b: W.T. Hamilton age 28, wife Mary 28; C.P. Hamilton, mother, b. 1825 SC. William's mother is Caroline P. Morrow. In 1850 in Fayette Co Alabama, she married James P. Hamilton, b.1822 Tn. They appear in the 1850 census Fayette Co Al pg 92. James must have died after that census since Caroline and son William age 9 appear alone in the 1860 Fayette Census, pg 471. They also appear in 1870 Fayette Census pg 424. I have an extensive Morrow file and am willing to share with descendants of William T. Hamilton b. c1851 Alabama. Bill Morrow of Oklahoma

Maureen - I totally agree with you. Ancestry is a wealth of information and they continue to add new and exciting databases. I am just disappointed regarding their lump sum payment. But I am going to make another call and use the suggestions that have been made on the list. Thanks to everyone for the comradery, support and ideas. It has been a great experience for me. Candace Hamilton Conradt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maureen Girard" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 7:56 PM Subject: RE: [HAM] re: ancestry.com > In defense of Ancestry (after bashing their sales practices which, I > reiterate, are over the top), I will say this: I just spent several hours > on Ancestry locating and recording information on a Revolutionary War > ancestor I didn't even realize I had. Ancestry provided info on his land > bounty, his rank, regiment, pension, age (info taken from him when he was > still alive), and several census records--and I'm not finished! > > If I had had to go to a library or FHC for that information, it probably > would have taken much more time (don't forget the cost of gas, parking and > lunch!), and I might not have realized how much information was available. > Ancestry has also provided readily accessible and very comprehensive > bibliographical information on records that I can order from libraries and > historical societies. > > The price is steep and getting more so, I agree. They know they have a > captive audience, and they know we're in thrall to them. But as long as I > can access the information I need without leaving my desk, thereby saving > all kinds of other expenses, Ancestry's worth it. > > I appreciate the alternative suggestions and strategies of others on the > list, and I'm going to look into them, as well. But for this year at least, > I'm grateful for Ancestry and what it has provided. > > Thanks to all of you for an excellent discussion of a very important topic! > > Maureen > > P.S. Don't forget your local Family History Library. Most of them have > Ancestry online. Your public library may also some genealogy subscriptions, > such as Heritage Quest. Make a couple of phone calls, and you may find what > you need for free and close to home. > > > > > ==== HAMILTON Mailing List ==== > Visit: http://members.aol.com/johnf14246/gen_mail.html for the most accurate list of Mail Lists available! > > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.5/147 - Release Date: 10/24/2005 > >

Just an FYI. Most of the public libraries around the country are members of Heritage Quest. If you ask your librarian about it, they will give you an ID and Password to Heritage Quest FREE. Heritage Quest has actual scanned copies of the census and it's very easy to search them. It also has scanned copies of the Revolutionary War Pension records - the very same records you are referring to in this email and it has scanned copies of thousands of old books. I have found tons of family information with Heritage Quest and it's all FREE. Ask your local librarian about it. > [Original Message] > From: Maureen Girard <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: 1/13/2006 9:57:12 PM > Subject: RE: [HAM] re: ancestry.com > > In defense of Ancestry (after bashing their sales practices which, I > reiterate, are over the top), I will say this: I just spent several hours > on Ancestry locating and recording information on a Revolutionary War > ancestor I didn't even realize I had. Ancestry provided info on his land > bounty, his rank, regiment, pension, age (info taken from him when he was > still alive), and several census records--and I'm not finished! > > If I had had to go to a library or FHC for that information, it probably > would have taken much more time (don't forget the cost of gas, parking and > lunch!), and I might not have realized how much information was available. > Ancestry has also provided readily accessible and very comprehensive > bibliographical information on records that I can order from libraries and > historical societies. > > The price is steep and getting more so, I agree. They know they have a > captive audience, and they know we're in thrall to them. But as long as I > can access the information I need without leaving my desk, thereby saving > all kinds of other expenses, Ancestry's worth it. > > I appreciate the alternative suggestions and strategies of others on the > list, and I'm going to look into them, as well. But for this year at least, > I'm grateful for Ancestry and what it has provided. > > Thanks to all of you for an excellent discussion of a very important topic! > > Maureen > > P.S. Don't forget your local Family History Library. Most of them have > Ancestry online. Your public library may also some genealogy subscriptions, > such as Heritage Quest. Make a couple of phone calls, and you may find what > you need for free and close to home. > > > > > ==== HAMILTON Mailing List ==== > Visit: http://members.aol.com/johnf14246/gen_mail.html for the most accurate list of Mail Lists available!

Those of you who are thinking about having your DNA analyzed in the Hamilton DNA project might consider doing it in the next few weeks, during which time you can take advantage of a special sale price for the analysis <http://www.dnaheritage.com/default.asp>. Contact me for details. Gordon Hamilton Hamilton DNA Project Coordinator [email protected]

Terry, I have asked my brother, John David Hamilton if he would take the DNA test and he has agreed to do this. I will send an email to Gordon Hamilton and give him the information he will need. I spent a couple hours reading the DNA information that was available on the web sight and although it was a tough item for me to understand I finally got the consensus of what they were talking about. I read over the names of the ancestors that were listed and I didn't find any of my ancestors mentioned in the study. Our line was supposed to have come from Ulster Northern Ireland around 1749/50. This Hamilton was named Thomas and he was married to Jane McCracken. Thomas and Jane Hamilton had at least three sons, Thomas JR, James and Robert. Let me know what you find out. Myrta Elizabeth Hamilton Hessley

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: HAMILTON Classification: Cemetery Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xFh.2ACEB/4431 Message Board Post: HAMILTON_Betty_Mae_1919-1998.JPG I photographed this gravestone in the Mount Olivet Cemetery - Lake Lawn Section, Fort Worth, Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use the picture for your personal records. This is one of the 135,269 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com

Greetings! I am new to this group, and have thoroughly enjoyed the discussions so far, especially regarding Ancestry.com. My grandmother was a Hamilton, and at one point I had quite a bit more information (sources and such) but our house burned down last summer, and I lost 15 years of genealogy research with it. So, I am starting over, and appreciate any and all help I can get! Although I've been digging up ancestors for over 15 years now, I feel like a newbie, because I really am almost having to start from scratch. Following is my Hamilton ancestry: My grandmother was Edna Hamilton, born 24 October 1907 in Menard County, Texas. She married Virgil Silas Westbrook on 26 November 1927. She died in Odessa, Texas on 19 October 1970. Her father was James Russell Hamilton, b. 14 June 1883 in Commanche County, Texas. He married Sarah Laura Adams on 25 November 1906, and died 21 Nov 1966 in Coleman, Texas. His father was Thomas Benjamin Hamilton, b. 30 July 1849 in Mississippi. He married Margaret Smith (2nd marriage to Elizabeth Stephens 23 August 1896). He died 17 October 1923 in Live Oak, Concho County, Texas. His father was Joel Foster Hamilton, b. 4 August 1822 in Tennessee. He married Orah (Orra?) Williams, and died 21 November 1877 in Mississippi. I have Joel and Ora's children as follows: 1. James, b. 1845 in MS 2. George R., b. 19 Aug. 1846 in MS; d. 26 Jan. 1930 in Tishomingo, OK 3. Thomas Benjamin (see above) 4. Margaret F., b. 1851 in MS 5. Mary A., b. 1853 in MS 6. Milton (John W.?), b. 1858 in MS 7. Bedie (Orra O?) b. 1864 in MS Thanks for any help! Valarie Westbrook Brooks North Carolina [email protected] www.geocities.com/morningtower

Hi Nancy , As far as I have it is on this for Benjamin and Susannah's kids. Nancy Hamilton born 1804 Elizabeth Hamilton born 1792 in Tn John Hamilton born 1793 Sarah Hamilton born 1796 Ben Jr. Hamilton born 1806 in KY. Amelia Ann Hamilton born 1811 Polly Hamilton born ? Ester Hamilton born ? Martha Hamilton born ? Does this help you any? I have a bit more but am not able to get it all right now I am unable to reach my family tree books. But I will keep trying I have saved your email and hope to be able to help you , Its always nice to find another family member! (smile) Peace, Rita Faye

Maylene, Joshua Hamilton was my gr-grandfather, also, then his son, Joshua Lee (second m. to Elizabeth Jane Goldsberry Bodenhamer) then my father, Robert Francis, then myself, Nancy Virginia Hamilton. I looked in my work for William Lafayette and discovered I had missed him. So, thanks for calling attention to his name. What did you find out about the Bible of William Hamilton? Is our family in it? I'm looking forward to hearing from you. I participate in the YDNA Hamilton study, my cousin having donated his DNA. I live in Northern California, but my family came from Carterville, Missouri, after Marshfield. Nancy Hamilton Wright >From: [email protected] >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: [HAM] Re: William Hamilton Bible (Anson & Union Co. NC) >Date: 13 Jan 2006 16:33:58 -0700 > >This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > >Classification: Query > >Message Board URL: > >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xFh.2ACEB/3659.3 > >Message Board Post: > >I am looking for information on how I may obtain this William Hamilton >Bible (pub 1834) or see the info in it. > >Does the parenthesese refer to pages in History of Anson County, or >Hamilton, Haynes, Bachman and other families William A Hamilton pub 1980, >or some other book? Or is it an actual Family Bible in your possession. Or >is this where they were from? > >And can you please tel me what state is fairfield community in? > >I am hoping this is my family Joshua, James C, William Lafayette Hamilton >my gr grandfather. > > >==== HAMILTON Mailing List ==== >Looking for a USA location? >Try http://www-nmd.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html >

In defense of Ancestry (after bashing their sales practices which, I reiterate, are over the top), I will say this: I just spent several hours on Ancestry locating and recording information on a Revolutionary War ancestor I didn't even realize I had. Ancestry provided info on his land bounty, his rank, regiment, pension, age (info taken from him when he was still alive), and several census records--and I'm not finished! If I had had to go to a library or FHC for that information, it probably would have taken much more time (don't forget the cost of gas, parking and lunch!), and I might not have realized how much information was available. Ancestry has also provided readily accessible and very comprehensive bibliographical information on records that I can order from libraries and historical societies. The price is steep and getting more so, I agree. They know they have a captive audience, and they know we're in thrall to them. But as long as I can access the information I need without leaving my desk, thereby saving all kinds of other expenses, Ancestry's worth it. I appreciate the alternative suggestions and strategies of others on the list, and I'm going to look into them, as well. But for this year at least, I'm grateful for Ancestry and what it has provided. Thanks to all of you for an excellent discussion of a very important topic! Maureen P.S. Don't forget your local Family History Library. Most of them have Ancestry online. Your public library may also some genealogy subscriptions, such as Heritage Quest. Make a couple of phone calls, and you may find what you need for free and close to home.

I was thinking of subscribing to ancestry.com and I called them last week. I found the fellow polite but he wanted my charge card number asap. (either the $179.00 or the $300.00). I said no I wanted to mail a check and he said something about the subscription is automatically renewed in one year so I had to pay by charge. Then he told me that if I paid by check they would still renew it automatically next year and withdraw the money from my checking account. He did say that they would notify me before the renewal and I could decline at that point. I said no I will decide if and when I want to renew. I said I would consider mailing a money order then if I decided to resubscribe next year I would notify them. What if for some reason I did not get the renewal information and they deducted the amount from my Visa or checking account? I have decided as a result of what I heard not to subscribe. Also, he never answered one question about the subscription that I wanted to ask. He was to concerned about the method of payment! Sort of made me feel if I paid by money order I would not get all the same benefits. I am a member of NEHGS and they are always adding to their site. I think I will stay with them especially now with the census they have online. And they have always been great in the past. Barbara

Thanks for the warning. There were two of us that were going to subscribe. As of all this latest, we are both going elsewhere. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 5:54 PM Subject: [HAM] re: ancestry.com > I was thinking of subscribing to ancestry.com and I called them last week. I > found the fellow polite but he wanted my charge card number asap. (either the > $179.00 or the $300.00). I said no I wanted to mail a check and he said > something about the subscription is automatically renewed in one year so I had to > pay by charge. Then he told me that if I paid by check they would still renew it > automatically next year and withdraw the money from my checking account. He > did say that they would notify me before the renewal and I could decline at > that point. I said no I will decide if and when I want to renew. I said I would > consider mailing a money order then if I decided to resubscribe next year I > would notify them. What if for some reason I did not get the renewal information > and they deducted the amount from my Visa or checking account? I have decided > as a result of what I heard not to subscribe. Also, he never answered one > question about the subscription that I wanted to ask. He was to concerned about > the method of payment! Sort of made me feel if I paid by money order I would > not get all the same benefits. I am a member of NEHGS and they are always > adding to their site. I think I will stay with them especially now with the census > they have online. And they have always been great in the past. Barbara > > > ==== HAMILTON Mailing List ==== > Hamilton National Genealogical Society, Inc. > 215 SW 20th Terrace - Oak Grove, MO 64075 > http:\\www.hamiltongensociety.org > [email protected] >