Hi, Hallmans, If any of you are planning to go to the Hallman Reunion (details posted by Elise) this summer, you might want to take a tour of the Augustus Lutheran Church at Trappe, PA. As you likely know, Anthony Hallman, was associated with that church during the time it was built. There is a website for the church which gives directions, time of tours, etc. There is also a small picture of the old church on the website. http://www.elca.org/syn/cong/PA/19426/index.html Hint: You'll find better pictures of the Augustus Lutheran Church on my website, pictures that Elise Hopkins took a year or so ago. http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Oracle/9428/h-history.html Faith Hutchings Your List Hostess faith@verdenet.com

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Hi, Hallmans, A correction to the above note. Elaine pointed out that Alzey is in Germany, not Amsterdam. I realized after I posted the above website that it referred to the Amsterdam document, not the location of Alzey. Elaine says Alzey is located Northwest of Worms, Germany. Thanks, Elaine. Faith

Thanks for the site, Faith, however, Alzey is in the southern part of the Rheinland/Pfalz area; just a few mines NW of Worms... I have consulted this area before with two other of my families, the Pfannebecker/Pennypacker family and the Clemens family. Actually, you can even find it on a modern map! Elaine Jeter. At 05:18 PM 6/19/99 -0700, you wrote: > >Hi, Hallmans, > >Although no Hallmans are listed in this document of Swiss >refugees living in the Alzey district (Amsterdam) in 1671/72, >you may find an ancestor in the document. (See Website >below) > >Faith > > http://www.whitmer.to/aa/aa_1248.htm > > > >

Hi, Hallmans, Although no Hallmans are listed in this document of Swiss refugees living in the Alzey district (Amsterdam) in 1671/72, you may find an ancestor in the document. (See Website below) Faith http://www.whitmer.to/aa/aa_1248.htm

Hi, Hallmans, Isn't it great that Phoebe and Vicki have found a connection! You, Hallmans, who haven't found your connection, take heart. You might find cousins soon, too. Faith

The 92nd Annual Hallman Reunion Sunday, August 15, 1999 At Hallman Grove, Skippack, PA The reunion will begin at 2:30 pm at the Hallman Grove, Skippack where they will have a short business meeting with group singing and children's games. Bring pennies for the Penny Scramble. They hope to have sunshine, horseshoes, and quoits available. Rev. Leroy Hallman will be the guest speaker for the day. The traditional covered dish family dinner will be at 4:30 pm. Please bring a covered dish, dessert, drinks, and place settings. An offering will be taken for the endowment fund as well as the general fund. >From the Hallman Family Directors ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Note from Elise: The reunion always seems to occur on the hottest day of the year. The picnic is held in a pavillion with lots of picnic tables and benches. Many bring a tablecloth. I believe the grove is located off of Rts 113 and 73. Will try to find out more soon.

Hi Phoebe, I read your post on the Hallman's and just wanted to write and tell you that my husband (Larry Permenter), descends from the same family. Jacob Hallman was Larry's ggg-grandfather. Larry was born and raised in Tuscaloosa, Alabama. Last summer we visited Ala. and went to the Reverend Luther Hallman reunion in Northport, were ya'll there? I would love to hear from you and know the direct line of decent. Also would love to exchange family info with you. Vicki Permenter

Faith asked me to send these comments to the "list" so here they are: Probably the best way to do the "thing" with the old Julian dates is to follow the practice of the Library of Congress and the British Museum catalogues. What they do is ascertain whether the date is Julian or Gregorian...and then if it is Julian, they print it as it appears, followed by the initials O.S., indicating that it is an old series (i.e. Julian) date. Most good library catalogers (I've done this myself) will make an appropriate entry in the cataloging information to indicate whether the date is Julian or Gregorian; and if it is Julian, they will indicate the Gregorian equivalent in the cataloging info. This isn't always possible in genealogy, of course, but it may help to know that England and its colonies were the last diehards using the old calendar; nevertheless, anything in Europe before 1650 is quite possibly Julian... I have forgotten the exact cut-off dates in other countries (England was, indeed, 1752), but it is published somewhere... I think they were pretty much forced into the change when the planting and harvesting times for crops got too far off to be dependable. Since it varies a bit from country to country for Europe, I'll see if I can come up with more exact info. The Dutch, of course, latched right onto the Gregorian dates a.s.a.p. People took their old Julian calendar very seriously. There were actually riots in England when the shift to the Gregorian calendar was made; folks figured they had "lost" those days and would never retrieve them! :-) Oh, well! Elaine Jeter

Hi, I thought this info. below would be helpful to some of us in determining the correct birth/death dates of our early ancestors. Faith Hutchings Your List Hostess fatih@verdenet.com >All colonial genealogists learn that Britain and its colonies changed >from the old style (Julian) calendar to the new style (Gregorian) >calendar on January 1, 1752. If you do colonial New York research, >however, you also have to know that in Holland this change occurred >170 years earlier, in 1582, and the Gregorian calendar therefore was >used in the Dutch colony of New Netherland. > >Under the old calendar in use prior to January 1, 1752 in Britain and >its colonies, the year began on March 25, and March was the first >month, February the twelfth. Dates in January, February, and the >first 24 days of March were often double-dated to indicate both the >past and incoming years. For example, what we would call February 24, >1714 would then have been February 24, 1713, but could also be written >February 24, 1713/14. It would also have been the 24th of the twelfth >month, not the second month. > >When the new calendar was adopted in 1752, eleven days had to be >dropped, and this was done by declaring that the day after September >2, 1752 was September 14, 1752. > >The colony of New Netherland which preceded New York operated >according to the laws and customs of the Netherlands province of >Holland, where the new calendar had been in use since Pope Gregory >introduced it in 1582. Therefore New Netherland records are dated as >we would date them today, with the year beginning January 1 and no >double-dating. > >After the English conquered New Netherland in 1664, and except for the >brief return of Dutch rule in 1673-74, the old (Julian) calendar was >used in official documents, but the Dutch often continued using the >Gregorian calendar in their church and family records. > >Some genealogists have tried to convert all old style dates to their >new equivalents, and published only the new forms, just like we say >George Washington was born February 22, 1732, when at the time he was >born the date was February 11, 1731/2. Unfortunately, too many >genealogists have interpreted the old dates incorrectly, forgetting >particularly that the months were not numbered as they are today. In >the case of colonial New York, they may have converted a date >correctly according to English rules, ignoring the fact that the >record was a Dutch one that did not require any conversion. > >It is recommended practice to show dates exactly as you find them in >the records, and not attempt to modernize them. If you find a date >between January 1 and March 24 where a double year is not indicated, >then which calendar is being used, and the actual year, can often be >determined by studying the source as a whole, and not just looking at >the single record of interest. > - ----------------------------------------------------------------

I'm new to the list and wanted to give you my line our Hallman's. My husband descends from: Jacob Hallman b. abt. 1786 in South Carolina and Elizabeth Weaver b. 1790 in SC. His son was Jacob David Hallman b. abt. 1807 in S. C. Married Mariah Snider b. abt. 1809 on 6 Jan. 1829 in Tuscaoosa Co., AL. He was a Doctor. Jacob and Mariah had: James McLeod Hallman b. 28 Dec. 1835 in Perry Co., AL Married Margaret Mitchell and Nancy Isabel Avery. He died 17 Apr. 1918 in Spencer Hill. James McLeod Hallman and Margaret Mitchell had: Rev. Charles Wesley Hallman. He married Georgia Ann Avery. Phoebe F. Forister

Hi, all, This morning's Arizona Republic (Phoenix newspaper) article on the latest worm to hit this area says that across the nation companies such as General Electric, Boeing and Credit Suisse First Boston were hit by this worm. The University of Phoenix files on network and on individual computers were destroyed. Other businesses in the area had computer damage reported. You cannot receive this *worm* through our mail list as Rootsweb filters out any attachments before sending through our messages. You can receive it from a friend or a business associate. The Worm.ExplorerZip comes in as a message that says: "Hi (Recipient's name). "I received your e-mail and I shall send you a reply ASAP. "Till then, take a look at the attached zipped docs. "Bye." DO NOT open the attachment! It is not a zipped file. DELETE it at once! The article continues: "Once launched (opened), it accesses e-mail addresses from the infected computer and sends itself to those addresses, and starts the process over again on the new computer. "At the same time, it begins searching for specific types of files on the host computer, including files from three popular Microsoft programs, Word, PowerPoint, and Excel. "Unlike Melissa (an earlier virus), computers without Outlook can be damaged...it searches for and destroys files even if it can't replicate through the e-mail program." You can learn more about this worm by clicking on this address below: http://www.avertlabs.com/public/datafiles/valerts/vinfo/va10185.asp I read on another list about a free anti-virus software that can be downloaded. (See message below) A free anti-virus utility Fully featured free anti-virus programs are a rarity on the Web. In fact, this is the only one we've seen! InoculateIT automatically detects and cleans conventional file and boot sector viruses as well as macro viruses that infect Office 95, Office 98, and Office 2000 Word documents, Excel spreadsheets and Access databases. Software updates and virus signature updates are free, as well. (For Windows 98/95 and NT). Free for personal use. Go to: http://www.cai.com/antivirus/personal/

A site has been established at www.gendex.com or go to Yahoo & call up Gendex for some millions of names which have been forwarded by GEDCOM by people who have researched their family trees. By calling up Hallman on the Gendex & then scrolling to the right one will find the E-mail addresses of the compilers. If the name Geiser-Kidron is called up his address will appear. Click on "Go There" and some very interesting information will appear. Mr. Geiser apparently operates the database for Kidron, Wayne Co. OH., Swiss Heritage Centre. This database provides several interesting sites to be reached by search engines. With Yahoo - call up Swiss Genealogy; with Lycos call up German genealogy and with Info Seek go to Mennonite Genealogy. Have fun Don Holmes Ontario

Hi, All, I was just reading about the Yeller Fever Epidemic in Philadelphia in 1793. If any of your ancestors lived in Philly at that time, and died in that year, the yellow fever may have been to blame. The website on this is: http://xroads.Virginia.EDU/~MA96/forrest/ww/fever.html Faith Your List Hostess faith@verdenet.com

Looking for Mary Elizabeth Hallman Black who lived in the Lexington County area of SC. She married Adam Rish who was born c1773...d c1746...info I ahve about MAry Elizabeth is she was b c1784...d c1877....anyone havign info..please let me know.....Debi Biffert

Hi, All, Rootsweb has installed a filter that changes HTML to Plain Text, so messages can now be sent to our List in HTML. Faith Hutchings List Hostess faith@verdenet.com

I want to thank all of you who have participated in our second Get Acquainted Week (first for those who have joined us in the last 6 months). Your messages were welcome. We are looking for more postings, though. We have close to 40 on our list, so I'm sure we will have more participating now that all have returned from (USA) Memorial Day weekend. Faith Hutchings Your List Hostess faith@verdenet.com

Hello, Hallmans, A great site. Shirley Hornbeck's *This or That." http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~hornbeck> Also, some more Library Research Info. The below information is copied from another list again. It has additional information on Library research. Hope it helps someone. Faith ROOTS-L Digest Volume 99 : Issue 376

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Greetings from Canada: I sincerely enjoy receiving all the Hallman news and information that comes across this 'Family Line' and each morning look forward to opening up and reading the daily Hallman news. In following back my connections to the Hallman Family, which turned out to be more than originally believed, I found some families that I've known over the years as 'friends' are infact also, tied into the Hallman Family. Being a Canadian Hallman descendant, Benjamin Hallman (43d), fourth generation from Anthony Hallman, was "our Canadian progenitor" and his youngest son Wendall (Rev.), is my direct connection as Wendall's seventh child, Henry S. Hallman (Rev.), was my maternal grandmother's father. Rev. Henry S. Hallman married Maria Rosenberger 18 Jan. 1881, daughter of Christian Rosenberger and Hannah Shantz. Rev. Henry S. and Maria had eight children; Manilla,Abner, Nancy Ellen (my gmother),Lorne, Annette,Grace (mother of Faith, our Hallman line moderator),A. Myrtle,W. Howard (after whom I was named),F. Ruth. Nancy Ellen married Henry "Harry" Geach 27 Jan. 1916, son of Rev. John Geach and Charlotte Eades of Novar, Ontario, and they had two children(daughters), Theo and Wilda. My mother, Theo, married Nelson Heckendorn 28 Sept. 1934, son of Moses Heckendorn and Amanda Otterbien of Breslau,Ontario and they had one child, yours truly, Howard Roy Heckendorn (the middle name for my mother's uncle, Roy Geach). I married Colleen Anne Brock 02 Nov. 1956, daughter of Gordon R. Brock and Antoinette Holle of Kitchener, Ontario and we have five children, Kimberly Dawn, Kevin Brock, Duane Howard, Brock Nelson, Shaun Patrick. Kimberly Dawn (Rev.) married Dale Van Allen and they have two children, Dana and Nick. Kevin Brock married Lotis Why and they have one child, Katya. Duane Howard married Lynda Huras and they have one child, Graham. Brock Nelson married Bettina Bross, she bringing one child into this union. Shaun Patrick presently enjoys the bachelor lifestyle. This Heckendorn clan all reside in London, Ontario since moving from Kitchener in 1966. My 'other connections' to the Hallman Family are: My grandfather Moses Heckendorn's sister Veronica, known as Franey, married George S. Hallman, son of Abraham C. Hallman and Mary Schmitt and Ella Mae (Viola) Heckendorn, daughter of Menno Heckendorn, uncle to my gfather Moses, married Cranson Winfred Hallman, son of Ephraim S. Hallman and Margaret Sararas and also a grandson of the above Abraham C. Hallman. The 'friends' found to be related to the Hallman Family are Earl Toman and his wife Jean Denstedt, their children Mary and John grew up with our children here in London. Also, a childhood friend of my wifes and a very dear family friend, Marilyn 'Schlichter' McMillan, widow to the late Dr. Donald McMillan of Kitchener. And I must not forget the late Veronica 'Vera' Hallman Hunsberger, daughter of George S. Hallman and Veronica 'Franey' Heckendorn. Vera was the compiler of "The Heckendorn Family History and Genealogy" booklet published in Sept. 1971. I am attempting to update this history booklet on "The Heckendorn Family in Canada" webpage, soon to be available on the internet, I hope! Genealogy searches have reconnected me with many 'cousins' that we've lost touch with over the years and look forward to meeting them again, where possible, in the near future.