What I have comes from the Hallman Family Association in Skippack, Pennsylvania. The dob for Jacob is listed as 5 Sep 1799 and his wife is listed as Mary Shoemaker. I know of no other wife. Wij -----Original Message----- From: RKRNaples@aol.com <RKRNaples@aol.com> To: HALLMAN-L@rootsweb.com <HALLMAN-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, July 30, 1999 3:00 PM Subject: JacobHallman >Does anyone have a proven death date for >Jacob Hallman son of Benjamin and Fronical Gotwals (who reportedly married >Mary Shoemaker)? >or a proven death date for Jacob Hallman married to a Mariah? > >I have copies of estate settlement from Archives in Montgomery County PA, >which I expected to be for the Jacob who married Shoemaker. But in the >widow's renunciation, the widow is Mariah. The date of death in the >documents is a few month earlier than I have recorded for Jacob son of >Benjamin, but my date is not documented. Only Mariah I found in the List >Archives is in "South Carolina Hallmans". > >Anyone have any ideas? >Edie >

Another gem that I copied from Lancaster Co. List. I'm sure some of you already know all this, but be tolerant for those Newbies who will be glad for this information! Faith H. The Wonders of "Click, Drag, Highlight, Copy & Paste." Here is the MOST USEFUL TIP I know to share with an online genealogy researcher: You can easily transfer information between your e-mail program, your Web browser and your word processing program. This approach is of great value to the family history researcher who is continually gathering information. - Here is How it Works: - Make sure that you know how to use your mouse to "Click, Drag, and Highlight" a word, sentence, paragraph of text or a whole page of text. This is the same method you probably already use with your word processing program. This selects or "highlights" the text. You can CUT or COPY the text. If there is a "pull down menu" on your word processor, Web browser or e-mail program - this option is usually under the "Edit" section of that menu. You MUST learn how to COPY and PASTE text: If you are using MS-Windows and do NOT have a pull down menu to go to. You can COPY by highlighting the text and hitting the "Control-C" keys. Then you can PASTE the text by hitting the "Control-V" keys. This is critical to know because you can use the "Click, Drag, Highlight, Copy & Paste" trick to help you with your genealogy research while you are on the Internet. - Here are more examples of why this is practical to know: - -You see a Web page mentioned list letter that you want to go see. Highlight and copy that address. If you are using MS-Windows it is now on an unseen "clipboard." Minimize your e-mail program and simply PASTE that address in the appropriate area of your Web browser and never type a single letter of gibberish! -You are on the WWW and see a few paragraphs of information that you want to save. Forget about saving the whole Web page. Highlight and copy the text - minimize your Web browser and pull up your e-mail program. Choose to send a new message and paste the text within the body of the e-mail message. Address it to yourself and save it. This is a great data collecting method. -You have some information that you have been gathering and pasting into an e-mail message. Now you want to get it to your word processor. Highlight and copy the text - minimize your e-mail program and start your word processing program and simply paste the text. You may have to "clean it up a bit," then save it. -You have a lengthy e-mail message to send and you want to make sure that it is spelled correctly. Write your letter in your word processor, use the spell check and get it how you want. Highlight and copy the text. Then minimize your word processing program and open up your e-mail program. Paste the letter in the body of the e-mail message. Once you get the hang of this you will be a "dangerous on-line researcher." Take the time to try it. Learn how to do this. You will save time and have less frustration. Get a friend to help if you have trouble. Nadine Wilson Hensley list owner

Copied from another list: Standards for Sound Genealogical Research Recommended by the National Genealogical Society Remembering always that they are engaged in the quest for truth, family history researchers consistently - 1. Record the source for each item of information they collect 2. Test every hypothesis or theory against credible evidence and reject those that are not supported by the evidence 3. Seek original records, or reproduced images of them when there is reasonable assurance that they have not been altered, as the basis for their research conclusions 4. State something as a fact only when it is supported by convincing evidence and identify the evidence when communicating a fact to others 5. Limit with words like "probable" or "possible" any statement that is based on less than convincing evidence and state the reasons for concluding that it is probable or possible 6. Avoid misleading other researchers by either intentionally or carelessly distributing or publishing inaccurate information 7. State carefully and honestly the results of their own research and acknowledge all use of other researchers' work 8. Recognize the collegial nature of genealogical research by making their work available to others through publication, or by placing copies in appropriate libraries or repositories, and by welcoming critical comment 9. Consider with open minds new evidence or the comments of others on their work and the conclusions they have reached Copyright 1997 by National Genealogical Society. Permission is granted to copy or publish this material, provided it is reproduced in its entirety, including this notice.

In a message dated 7/31/99 9:17:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time, HALLMAN-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << How about Jacob HALLMAN that was married to Miriah SNIDER? I don't have a death date for either one of them. Phoebe Phoebe, Do you think he could have died in PA? The file says "Jacob Hallman late of Skippack and Perkiomen Township". In the widow's renunciation (filed 29 Feb 1856) she does not request a son, son-in-law, or in fact anyone in particular to take administration. The settlement indicates that a George S. Hallman, was the administrator. William Foxe and Michael Hallman waere sworn 18th Feb to do the appaisal. Interestingly, the registrar was an Isaac Schneider. The account of the estate dated July 17th shows disbursements including the following Hallmans: Michael, George S, Isaac, and Susanna. There is no mention of property, but that may not be a conclusive statement as there were other papers I did not order. Edie

Hello, Hallmans, I have posted Anthony Hallman's Will on the GenConnect Board as a *sort of* experiment. To read it go to the address below & follow instructions. Good Luck! Faith Hutchings Your List Hostess faith@verdenet.com http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/h/a/HALLMAN/wills

Phebelyn@aol.com wrote: > > How about Jacob HALLMAN that was married to Miriah SNIDER? > I don't have a death date for either one of them. Phoebe, I do not have a death date, either. Here's all I have on them: 1. Jacob David HALLMAN (b.Abt 1807-Tusc.Co.,AL;d.-Tusc.Co.,AL) sp: Mariah SNIDER (b.Abt 1809;m.06 Jan 1829) 2. James McLeod HALLMAN (b.28 Dec 1835-Perry Co.,AL; d.17 Apr 1918-Spence) sp: Margaret MITCHELL sp: Nancy Isabel AVERY Bill

In a message dated 7/30/99 3:00:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, RKRNaples@aol.com writes: << Anyone have any ideas? Edie >> How about Jacob HALLMAN that was married to Miriah SNIDER? I don't have a death date for either one of them. Phoebe

Does anyone have a proven death date for Jacob Hallman son of Benjamin and Fronical Gotwals (who reportedly married Mary Shoemaker)? or a proven death date for Jacob Hallman married to a Mariah? I have copies of estate settlement from Archives in Montgomery County PA, which I expected to be for the Jacob who married Shoemaker. But in the widow's renunciation, the widow is Mariah. The date of death in the documents is a few month earlier than I have recorded for Jacob son of Benjamin, but my date is not documented. Only Mariah I found in the List Archives is in "South Carolina Hallmans". Anyone have any ideas? Edie

Edie reminded me of something I intended to do. The new archiver archives address doesn't work well for surname purposes, so I've been meaning to give you all the old address we used to access our archives until recently. (Sometimes old things are better.) Try the address below, Edie, and anyone else who want to search our archives. If you still have a problem let me know. Faith http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=hallman

In a message dated 7/21/99 11:48:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time, HALLMAN-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << Gloria would like your help >> Following is what I have. Dates vary by researchers; not proven. Benjamin Hallman, b 1759, d 23 Dec 1834; Served in Revol. War; Bur Skippack Men Cem m Fronica Gotwals (dau of Adam Gotwals) Children: Henry b1781, d1821; m Elizabeth Grater Joseph b 24 Sep 1782, d 29 Jan 1845; m Margaret Fry Benjamin b 18 Sep 1783, d 10 Sep 1869;m Elizabeth Detweiler Susan b1785, d 1867; m Weller Samuel d 8 Oct 1857; m Susanna Rhoads Abraham b 1 Jun 1790, d 22 Jul 1865; m Prizer Catherine b 19May 1798, d 1871 Jacob b5 Sep 1799, d 28 Aug 1856; m Mary Shoemaker Michael b 11 Sep 1812, d 9 Oct 1883; m Anna Detweiler Mary m Frederick Isett Margaret m Samuel Mumbauer/Nunshower Elizabeth m John Griffin Hope this helps. Edie

On another List, an offer was made to look up any surnames beginning with *H* in the records of the Lutheran Church in New Hanover, Montgomery Co., PA. I sent a message asking for any *Hallman* surnames. This was her reply below. I'm forwarding it to our list on the chance that one of you might have this *Jeremiah* in your family line. Faith I was only able to find one mention. HALLMAN, Jeremiah died July 8, 1898 at age 58 years, 8 months, 13 days. Hope this fits into your family tree.

To the Southern Hallmans, It seems as though Angela's Hallmans must be from the South Carolina branch, too. Do any of you have her ancestors' on your family line? (see below) Faith Hello, I don't have any info, except that the late Edward McARthur Hallman lived here in Vale N.C. and he is from this area and so was his father. I don't know if this will help, As you can see I don't have any more info, but would love to be able to find out more on my husband side of his family. Thanks, Angela

For those who have Ontario ancestors/relatives, Ancestry's Free Data Base of the Day is Kitchener, Ont. Woodland Cemetery Records. I found the Hallman name 15 times. You may be able to find other ancestors' surnames there too. Don't wait too long to check out this site as it is only free for 10 days. http://www.ancestry.com/ancestry/search/3881.htm Faith

To Hallmans, Gloria asked me to help her with the Benjamin Hallman and Fronica Gotwals family. I checked mine & found I had received most of what info I had. from several on our list. I show 14 children for B & F Hallman. I'm sending Gloria's message on to you. Can one, or more, of you help her out? Thanks, Faith I hope you can help me. I'm trying to piece together the family of Bejamin Hallman and Anna (Fronica)Gotwals. Benjamin is Anthony Hallman's grandson. I have 10 names for Bej. and Anna's children but have no dates to put them in order or to make sure I have not missed anyone. I also need dates for both Benj and Anna as I have nothing yet. Hope to hear from you soon. Thank you. Gloria Allen jeglo@greatlakes.net

http://www.iroots.net/library/ A good website! Volunteers take your queries for lookups in books they have on hand. I sent in my first query today, so I don't know how quickly they reply, but, Hey, it's free! Faith Hutchings Your List Hostess faith@verdenet.com

Angela, Do you know where your husband's ancestors, Ellis Hallman or Edward Hallman, were born, lived, etc.? We have several unrelated Hallmans (as far as we know now) on our list. The Hallmans who descend from John Wendell Hallman come from the South Carolina Hallmans. Those of us who are descendants of Anthony Hallman, who settled in Pennsylvania in the early 1700s, are scattered across the United States, and Canada. Then, we have some Hallmanns who arrived in the Chicago area in the 1800s, plus at least one Hallmann who is descended from ancestors in Sweden. So, it would help us if we knew where your husband's ancestors originally lived, if you can tell us? Thanks, Faith Hutchings

Hello, I am researching the Hallman family for my husband. His grand-father was the late Edward McArther Hallman. The only info I have is Edward's father's name was Ellis Hallman who was married to a Carnily Sain. I would appreciate any information on this line. Thank-you, Angela Lovelace Hallman ace Hallman

Faith Hutchings wrote: > > I hope you South Carolina Hallmans' are getting together > to compare notes? Mark, Bill, are you helping out these > new subscribers? I expect most of you descend from John > Wendell Hallman, right? > Yes. Yes. Yes. Bill

I hope you South Carolina Hallmans' are getting together to compare notes? Mark, Bill, are you helping out these new subscribers? I expect most of you descend from John Wendell Hallman, right? Faith Hutchings Your List Hostess faith@verdenet.com

Phebelyn@aol.com wrote: > > Looking for information on Elizabeth WEAVER born in 1790 South Carolina. She > married Jacob HALLMAN. Jacob was born abt. 1786 in Lexington District, South > Carolina. Phoebe, I do not have any info on Elizabeth, but I do have the following descendants: Descendants of Jacob HALLMAN 14 Jul 1999 Page 1 1. Jacob HALLMAN (b.1784-SC) sp: Elizabeth WEAVER (b.1788-SC) 2. Jacob David HALLMAN (b.Abt 1807-Tusc.Co.,AL) sp: Mariah SNIDER (b.Abt 1809;m.06 Jan 1829) 3. James McLeod HALLMAN (b.28 Dec 1835-Perry Co.,AL;d.17 Apr 1918-) sp: Margaret MITCHELL 4. Charles Wesley HALLMAN sp: Georgia Ann AVERY sp: Nancy Isabel AVERY 2. Joe Ann HALLMAN (b.1808-Batesburg,Lexington,SC) 2. Epsie HALLMAN (b.1810-Batesburg,Lexington,SC) 2. Henry Jackson HALLMAN (b.01 Jan 1812-Batesburg,L,SC;d.26 Jun 1902-) sp: Sarah LANGFORD (b.18 Jul 1825-HOP,AL;d.01 Nov 1913-Berry,J,AL) 3. Columbus Washington HALLMAN\HOLMAN (b.10 Oct 1866-,A;d.15 Oct 1956-) sp: Henrietta CRANFORD (b.07 Feb 1874-L,,Alabama;d.04 Jan 1945-) 4. Isabel HALLMAN (b.10 Jan 1892-Fayette,F,Alabama;d.Abt Jul 1972) 4. Efford Asbury HALLMAN (b.07 Apr 1894-BF,D,Texas;d.27 Jan 1912-) 4. Sarah Geroma HALLMAN (b.09 Mar 1897-Enloe,D,Texas;d.09 Aug 1958-) 4. Mary Etta HALLMAN (b.13 Jul 1899-BF,Delta,Texas;d.17 Apr 1973-) 4. Johnie Lena HALLMAN (b.22 Dec 1901-Enloe,D,Texas;d.31 Oct 1958-) 4. Powell Columbus HALLMAN (b.17 Nov 1905-E,D,Texas;d.06 Dec 1971) 4. J. T. HALLMAN (b.27 Apr 1908-G,,Oklahoma;d.17 Mar 1909-,,Oklahoma) 4. Hollie Redus HALLMAN (b.10 Jan 1910-G,G,Oklahoma;d.12 May 1976-) 4. W. A. HALLMAN\HOLMAN (b.25 Aug 1913-Carter,B,OK;d.28 Mar 1990-) 3. Mary HALLMAN (b.Abt 1870-AL) 3. William James HALLMAN (b.27 Jan 1848-Selfridle,B,Alabama;d.Abt 1910) 3. Jacob Aster HALLMAN (b.13 Nov 1850-S,Bibb,Alabama;d.Abt Feb 1905) 3. Martha HALLMAN (b.Abt 1851-Selfridle,Bibb,Alabama;d.31 Dec) 3. Samuel Thomas HALLMAN (b.Abt 1855-Blount,,Alabama;d.Abt 1910) 3. Jess Martin HALLMAN (b.24 Jan 1856-AL;d.25 Oct 1918) 3. Marion Ford HALLMAN (b.25 Jan 1858-AL) 3. Henry Lewellen HALLMAN (b.18 Feb 1860-AL;d.23 Mar 1879) 3. David Mcentosh HALLMAN (b.05 Dec 1862-Bibb,Alabama;d.09 Apr 1933-) 3. Sarah Rebecca HALLMAN (b.10 Jul 1864-AL;d.07 Jul 1901) 3. Jenny Ann HALLMAN (b.15 May 1868-AL) 3. Julia Joe Ann HALLMAN (b.28 Jul 1872-AL;d.12 Dec 1951) 2. David HALLMAN (b.1814-Batesburg,Lexington,S) 2. Jack HALLMAN (b.1816-Batesburg,Lexington,S) 2. William HALLMAN (b.Abt 1817-Batesburg,Lexington,SC) 2. William Wesley HALLMAN (b.26 Jan 1818-Batesburg,L,SC;d.21 Jul 1904-) sp: Celia Ann OSWALT (b.10 May 1812-SC;m.17 Jan 1837;d.03 Nov 1899) 2. Mary HALLMAN (b.1819-Batesburg,Lexington,S) 2. Andrew Jackson HALLMAN (b.Abt 1827-Tusc.Co.,AL) sp: Barbara T. LEE (b.1826-Fayette,AL) 3. Mary Ann HALLMAN (b.Abt 1848-Crystal Springs,,MS) 3. Henry Allen HALLMAN (b.20 May 1851-CS,,MS;d.24 Oct 1935) 3. William E. HALLMAN (b.Abt 1852-Crystal Springs,,MS) 3. James Columbus HALLMAN (b.06 Aug 1856-Fayette,AL;d.02 Feb 1938) 3. Ora HALLMAN (b.Abt 1858-Fayette,AL) 3. Luther Rodney HALLMAN (b.27 Mar 1860-CS,,MS;d.28 Sep 1934) 3. Martha Jane HALLMAN (b.16 Jul 1863-Fayette,AL;d.16 Apr 1939-CS,,MS) 3. Theodore Prince HALLMAN (b.29 Oct 1866-Fayette,AL;d.01 Dec 1941) 2. Joannah HALLMAN (b.05 Jun 1830-SC;d.28 Mar 1903-Fayette Co.,AL) I also have more info on the Hallman family. Jacob's brother, Andrew, was my 4th greatgrandfather. None of this info is proven to be correct, but it is reasonably accurate. Bill