Did anyone else miss Clark's posting on the Hallman History? I would hate for any of you to miss it, as it was so interesting. Please let me know if you did miss it. I sent it on to Doris and Bill already. Faith faith@verdenet.com

Faith Hutchings wrote: > > Thanks so much to Clark, for posting that interesting > history of the Hallman, Heilman, Heylmann, etc. families > and surname spelling. I have never read most of it previously. > It looks as though most of us are related way back > somewhere, doesn't it? Faith, I do not remember seeing Clark's posting, either. I have looked at the archives, and cannot find it there. Bill

If I may say so, I would be cautious about the Isaac Hallman book. There were several omissions and presumptions that were inaccurate as pertains to my forebears. Early on in my research I was told that there was a brother of Anthony Hallman that migrated to NC. Actually, I was told there were two brothers. I have no idea where this information came from and cannot validate it. Supposedly the first Hallman owned a large store.

Send please, Thanks, Lucy In a message dated 08/27/1999 2:09:15 PM Central Daylight Time, faith@verdenet.com writes: << Did anyone else miss Clark's posting on the Hallman History? >>

Thanks so much to Clark, for posting that interesting history of the Hallman, Heilman, Heylmann, etc. families and surname spelling. I have never read most of it previously. It looks as though most of us are related way back somewhere, doesn't it? Faith

I missed it! Elise

My ancestor, Henry Hallman, appeared in North Carolina in 1767 when as Henry Holdman, Jr., he bought 225 acres of land in Mecklenberg Co., and 320 acres of land in present day Lincoln Co. He is mentioned in several other land transactions and also was appointed a Justice at the first sitting of the court of Tryon County in 1768. In one of the deeds it specifies he was from Pennsylvania. He died in Lincoln Co. in 1820 - I have his will. I have not been able to locate the burial places of either Henry or his son Anthony, but subsequent generations are buried at the Salem Lutheran Church cemetery near Lincolnton. In addition, Henry's sister Catherine migrated to North Carolina. She was married to Jacob Creasamer, and they are both buried at the Salem church cemetery. These early generations are enumerated in Jo White Linn's book, "Ancestry of Sim/Hallman Families". The book was published privately in 1994, but I understand it is now available. It is on her newest book list. There was an earlier book "Hallmans and Related Families in America", published in 1974 by Isaac Powell Hallman. The North Carolina branch is mentioned in chapter 5. It was this book which was the springboard for my genealogy research, and our discovery of the Pennsylvania connection. In 1993 I met Mrs. Linn, and was able to contribute some of the facts she used in her book. She has been an invaluable help to me in my research, and a good friend. Hope to hear from someone who can give me more information about Henry. I have never been able to find his birth date, for instance. Anybody have it? Hopes this helps someone. Nancy

I am descended from the Carolina Hallmans. There has been no proven connection to the PA. Hallmans. It is interesting that of all the Hallmans I have communicated with in TX, you are the only one not from the Carolina Hallmans.

That's interesting! I didn't know that we had Anthony Hallman's descendants who lived in North Carolina. I realize that later descendants live all over the U.S. and Canada, but Nancy's ancestors must have settled in North Carolina in the 18th or 19th Century. Right, Nancy? I think Nancy's line, from Henry's son, is a different line than I've seen on our List. Does she have any cousins among our 49 or 50 subscribers? Faith

Yes, I 'd be interested. I think I'm o.k., but I'll check to be sure. Doris

Would anyone on our list like the instructions on how to check your Win 95 for Y2K setup? If so, contact me and I'll send the instructions. I expect most of you have already taken care of this potential problem. Faith faith@verdenet.com

Faith: I would appreciate seeing what you have on Y2K. Thanks Dick Hallman

Dear Faith & all, I am new to the Hallman list - didn't know till recently there was one! Here is my male line of descent from Anthony down to me. As you can see, our line runs to "Anthonys". It is still being perpetuated today. I have a cousin Robert Anthony Hallman, and his son is Jr., and HIS son is III ! Anthony 1671 - 1759> Henry 1716 - 1803 Henry d. 1820 NC> Anthony 1755 - 1833 >Jacob 1787 - 1851> Anthony 1811 - 1861> James Monroe 1850 - 1919> Wilbur Purvie 1907 - living Wilbur Purvie (Bill) is my father, still living at 92. I am Nancy Hallman Cason, I live in Texas. From the second Henry on down, all of my ancestors lived in Lincolnton, Lincoln Co, NC. My father came to Texas in about 1925 after his Mother died. Most of my relatives still live in North Carolina. Would like to hear from cousins. Nancy

If there are any out there who can trace your line to the Sundance Kid, you can certainly qualify to be on the *Black Sheep* Rootsweb mail list! Faith

This is an address to begin search (free) for WW I Draft Card information. http://www.ancestry.com/ancestry/search/3172a.htm

Ancestry has free access to its DAR records for 10 days. Note: It is extremely busy. Address is: http://www.ancestry.com/ancestry/search/3174.htm Faith Hutchings

Hi Hallmans, Did anyone on the list attend the Hallman Reunion last Sunday? My father-in-law remembers his mother attending, but we've never been there. Doris

Dear Hallmans, I attended the Hallman reunion last Sunday. The turnout was not as numerous as last year, but about 60 brave souls endured the heat to come out. One rather interesting thing that happened was we had two visitors, one being the descendent of Oliver Hallman. He told us about the Hallman connection with the Sundance Kid. Donna B. Ernest published a book called Sundance, My Uncle which tells how Harry Longabaugh, aka The Sundance Kid, was apparently born in Phoenixville, PA in 1867 and if you watched the movie, Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, you know he died in San Vicente, Bolivia in 1911. His parents, Josiah Longabaugh, b <1842 in PA, m before 1867, to Annie Place; their gravesite is at Morris Cemetary in Phoenixville. Henry's sister, Samanna Longenbaugh, b c 1860 in PA, married Oliver Hallman, married before 1880. This info according to FamilySearch Ancestral File. According to the Bergey notes, Oliver is son of Augustus, b 1834 and Mary Conkling Hallman, b 1834. Augustus was son of Henry Hallman, 1799-1871 and Catherine Hallman. And Catherine, 1798-1871 was the daughter of Benjamin Hallman,c1759-c1823 and Fronica Gotwals. Don't know how Henry Hallman fits in. (There are too many Henrys!) After the reunion, my mother and I went to the Lower Skippack Mennonite Church and saw the tombstone erected by the Hallman reunion to Anthony Hallman with Mary Salome's stone embedded on the reverse side. I tried to take photos and if they turn out, will send them to Faith so she perhaps can scan them onto her webpage. Cheers, Elise

Diane asked if I knew whether the same records were available on WW II as are available on WW I Draft Cards. I don't know. Does anyone else know the answer to her question? Logically, I would think that WW II records might still be within the domain of the privacy act. What do the rest of you think? Faith Hutchings

Faith Thank you for this information. Do they also have this available for WWII? Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: Faith Hutchings <faith@verdenet.com> To: <HALLMAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 21, 1999 1:24 PM Subject: WWI Draft Cards > Forwarded From Another List: > > M. Dean Hunt > Louisville, KY > > Good Morning, everyone: I played hooky from work yesterday and spent the > day > at the NARA Branch in Atlanta and it jogged my memory to pass on some > information to everyone. > > Prior to the US's entry into WW1 (approx. 1917-1918) every male between the > age of 18 and 40 was required to register for the draft. The information > found > on the card was provided by the individual himself. The registration cards > vary in information depending on the individual draft board. > > But by and large the cards include: The full name of the person (this > means > first, full middle name, any additional middle names and last name); the > current address of the man; his age; his birthdate (some include his place > of > birth); whether he is a US citizen or a naturalized citizen (some ask if his > father was a naturalized citizen and his father's race); his race; his > occupation; where he is employed (name of employer); address or location of > employment; name and address of his next of kin; some cards ask if the man > is > married or single and how many people he supports. The card is signed by > the > draftee. On the back of the card his physical description is noted: Height > is > broken down by short, medium, tall although some cards give the actual > height in > feet and inches; Build by slim, medium, stout although some cards list > actual > weight along with the build; color of eyes and hair; any deformities or > injuries > are listed (such as one arm missing, blind in one eye, etc.); the name and > address of the draft board and the date. > > When these original cards were transferred to the East Pointe NARA branch > the > LDS spent about 3 years microfilming these cards. There are hundreds and > hundreds of boxes and the LDS opened one box at a time and filmed them - in > state order. However, within each state the cards were filed by draft > board, > not by county or by draftee. This makes the searching of the microfilm > difficult to say the least. > > The good news is that the Friends of the National Archives took each box > after > it was filmed (and checked) and sorted all of these thousands and thousands > of > cards into state and then COUNTY order, and then in alphabetical order by > surname and put then in new boxes. The Friends deserve all the kudos we can > give them for this monstrous task. > > So ... rather than spending hours and hours searching the LDS microfilm you > can > order copies of the original cards from NARA if you know the county your > ancestor lived in between 1917-1918. > > And BTW - Ancestry.com lists WW1 Draft cards in their searchable data bases, > however I know for a fact that there are 22 cards for the surname WHITE > found in > McIntosh Co, OK, and Ancestry only gave me 4 of them so don't depend on that > site. I was told yesterday that some reps from Ancestry had visited the > archives a couple of weeks ago to talk about filming the cards, took one > look at > the hundreds and hundreds of boxes and simply left. > > For copies: Send a letter requesting copy(s) to: > NARA > Southeast Region > 1557 St. Joseph Ave > East Point, GA 30344 > > In your letter be sure to say you want copy(s) of the WWI Draft application > Cards. Include the name of your ancestor and his race, the state and the > county. If you want copies of ALL of the cards with a given surname, ask > them > the cost of the copies and send a SASE for them to let you know the copying > cost. In your letter be sure and say you want a copy of the FRONT and BACK > of > the card. Be sure to send a SASE for the return of you copies. > > The cost for the copy is 50 cents - 25 cents for the back and 25 cents for > the > front. If you only want one copy send a buck and say the difference is to > be > given to the Friends of the Archives, because after all they did all this > wonderful hard work for you <VBG> > > >