To Mr & Mrs Hallman and all the ships at sea: Hi !!!! My name is Marilyn Mills. I am a 4 time mother & 9 time grandmother, divorced and very rapidly approaching mandatory retirement age. That is my present state which none of you are in the least concerned about. Following is my pedigree which some of you may wish to look at to see if and where there might be a connection of our ancestral families. Marilyn Wallace m & d Ray Mills 1935 l l Bruce Wallace m Grace Valliere 1905-1984 l 1912 - l Thomas Wallace m Elizabeth Hallman 1877-1952 l 1882 - 1975 l Cyrus Hallman m Jennet Wallace 1849-1927 l 1850 - 1924 l Rev. Benjamin D. Hallman m Catherine Hunsberger b 1821 PA d 1910 ON l 1824 - 1886 l Benjamin Hallman m Elizabeth Detweiler b 1783 PA d 1869 ON l b 1784 PA d 1856 ON emigrated to Ontario ca 1825 l l Benjamin Hallman m Anna (Fronica) Growals l l Henry Hallman m Anna Maria Bersons l 1734 - 1792 l Anthony Hallman m Mary Salome b-ca-1671 Switzerland l b ca 1673 Switzerland d 1759 PA l d 1745 PA There you have it. Most of this information comes from the "Hallman Family History in Canada 1991" and their is a lot of oral family history involved in the last three generations. Yours, Marilyn Mills Atwood Ontario

Hello, Hallmans, I know from our Get Acquainted Weeks that most of you are very busy people--working part-time or full-time, but if any of you do have time to spare, Rootsweb/USGenWeb could use your help in transcribing Census records. Time can be as valuable as cash to them! See message below from Kay Mason, National Coordinator of the USGenWeb Census Project. The Census Project would be glad to have anyone who wants to volunteer We not only need transcribers, we need proofreaders, and other help too. Please visit our pages at: http://www.usgenweb.com/census/ Thanks so very much! Kay Mason National Coordinator USGenWeb Census Project http://www.usgenweb.org/census/ http://www.usgenweb.com/census/ http://www.usgenweb.net/census/ Member, USGenWeb National Advisory Board http://www.usgenweb.org

To all Hallmans, It's nice to know Cyndi supports Rootsweb. Her recommendation should go a L-O-N-G way, as she's so well-known in genealogical circles! See her message below. Faith Hi all - Did what I could for RootsWeb this past week. I used it several times in live, online examples in the classes I taught at GENTECH and at the Salt Lake Institute of Genealogy. There is also mention of it in the article I wrote for American Heritage magazine. It is now on the newstands, so pick up a copy or read it online: Tracking Your Family Through Time and Technology http://www.americanheritage.com/99/feb/005.htm Cyndi

Hello Hallmans: I wanted to post my Hallman line in the chance that there are possbile corrections to dates and spellings, or possibly some new information. HALLMAN LINE - RICHARD WATSON 1. Anthony Hallman 1671-1759 +Mary Salome 1673-1745 2. Henry Hallman 1716-1803 +Anna Maria Berson 1734-1792 3. Benjamin Hallman 1759-1834 +Anna Fronica Gotwals 1760- ? 4. Benjamin Hallman II 1783-1869 +Elizabeth Harley Detweiler 1784-1856 5. Joseph Hallman 1808-1893 +Susannah Clemmer 1810-1854 6. Abraham C. Hallman 1832-1904 6. Sarah C. Hallman 1833-1906 6. Hannah Hallman 1834-1924 6. Elizabeth Hallman 1836-1868 6. Joseph C. Hallman 1867-1831 6. Leah Hallman 1838-1919 6. Moses Hallman 1841-1864 6. Susannah Hallman 1843-1877 6 Benjamin Clemmer HALLMAN 1845-1923 + Lucy Ann Eby 1847-1893 7. Oliver Eby Hallman 1867-1959 7. Israel Eby Hallman 1869-1956 7. Addison Eby HALLMAN 1871-1954 +Annie Elizabeth Foster 1874-1961 8. Rhea Victoria Hallman 1897-1996 8. Arthur Foster Hallman 1899-1977 8. Watson Eby HALLMAN 1901-1981 9. Richard Watson HALLMAN 1929- +Ruth Ann Johnston 1929- 10. Susan Ann Hallman 1960- 10. Nancy Jane Hallman 1962- 8. Walter Addison Hallman 1906-1972 7. Titus Eby Hallman 1873-1969 7. Sidney Eby Hallman 1876-1951 7. Minerva Hallman 1878-1960 7. Milton Eby Hallman 1880-1920 7. Wesley Eby Hallman 1883-1971 7. Ida Marion Hallman 1886-1928 7. Lucy Ann Hallman Jr. 1893-1893 2nd wife- Elizabeth Wildman 1859-1911 7. Alberta Bertie Hallman 1895- ? 7. Edna Hallman 1897-1990 7. Irene Hallman 1899-1899 Thank you, Dick Hallman

Hello, All, It's nice to see activity on our List. Keep the messages coming! I have just a couple things I need to mention again for the new people and others who may have forgotten to do this. (1) Please turn off your HTML before sending any messages to our List. This is a requirement from Rootsweb. HTML makes problems for them. We want to avoid that, since they are so good to us! If you don't know how to turn off your HTML (What is that, anyhow?) you can click this address below which will give you instructions how to do it in your particular program. http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/listowners/html-off.htm (2) This is for you who are subscribed in Digest Mode. Would you send your messages to our List under HALLMAN-L, please, even though you receive them in Digest Mode. Thanks so much! This will make it easier to locate messages in the archives. If you have any questions on the above, please contact me at my address below. Thank you all! Faith Hutchings Your List Owner (Hostess) faith@verdenet.com

Hello, all, I just spent about an hour looking through the archives, not our's but for another surname.Message after message in that archives had just the surname in the subject line. It seemed like a hopeless case to try to find my "Anna." It occurred to me that if everyone on our List, when posting family lines, would put at least a few given names & maybe some spouses' surnames in the subject line, it would make it a lot easier for new subscribers to search our archives. How about it? Speaking of Family Lines--we have a number of new subscribers now. It would be nice if some of you old-timers (from Oct. &. Nov. 1998) would re-post your family lines again. Who knows--you may have just the family line someone is looking for!! Faith Hutchings Your Listowner faith@verdenet.com

For the new subscribers: Our messages are stored in the archives. To search the archives for your ancestors, just use the address below. Type your ancestor's first (given) name in the query box, click on 1998 (there aren't many in 1999). Then, click on "Remit Query." The messages will be rated in the order of the percentage of closest match to the name you have entered (ie. 100% would be a perfect match). As you scroll down the list, you can read the subject and chose the messages you want to read. Click on "Full" if you want to read the entire message. http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=hallman Faith Hutchings Your Listowner/Hostess faith@verdenet.com

To all, To skip an extra step to the archives, just use the address below. Faith http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=hallman

Hello, Hallmans, Re: Edie's list of naturalizations. Connie sent me the information below. I asked her to cut and paste it to a Hallman-L message. She answered that, unfortunately, she had deleted it but gave me permission to copy and paste from her message to me. I thought it would be of interest to the whole group--so here it is below. Faith According to Johni Cerny in "The Library: A Guide to the LDS Family History Library" 1727-1775 the Oaths of Allegiance are listed in the Pennsylvania Archives, Second series 1740-1773 Naturalization lists are published in a book by Linn for the Clearfield Company/Genealogical Publishing Company of Baltimore, MD In 1776 'Aliens' living in Pennsylvania at the time of the Declaration of Independence were automatically naturalized 1776-1794 new arrivals simply took an oath of allegiance, and those are recorded in another publication of the Genealogical Publishing Co. in Baltimore 1793-present -- naturalizations are tracked in various court systems, available in the Supreme Court records While I'm not about to print all 123 pages of the "Persons Naturalized in Pennsylvania 1740-1773, the first page is interesting (and is shared with the original spelling/grammer): "In pursuance of An Act of Parliament made in the thirteenth year of the Reign of his present Majesty King George, the second, Entitled An Act for naturalizing such Foreign Protestants, and others therein mentioned, as are settled or shall settle in any of his majesties Colonies in America. At a Supreme Court held at Phil'd'a for the Province of Pennsylvania, Before Jeremiah Langhorne, Thomas Graeme and Thomas Griffiths, Esqrs, Judges of the said Court, the 25th, 26th & 27th days of September, in the year of our Lord one thousand seven Hundred & Forty, between the Hours of Nine and Twelve of the Clock in the Forenoon of the same Days, the following person, being Foreigners and having inhabited and resided the space of seven years and upwards in his Majesty's Colonies in America, and not having been absent out of some of the said Colonies for a longer space than two months, at any one time, during the said seven years, and having produced to the said Court Certificates of their having taken the Sacrament of the Lord's Supper in some Protestant or Reformed Congregation in this Province within three months before the said Court, Took & Subscribed the Oaths, and did make, and repeat the Declaration prescribed by the said Act, to entitle them to the Benefit thereof, and thereby became Natural born Subjects of Great Britain, as the same is Certified into this office by the Judges of the said Court." The book then lists the person's name, 'of what place' and the time of taking the Sacrament. (The list submitted by Edie reflects Court activity for Sept 7th, 1740 according to Linn's records) Unfortunately, there are only three Hallman/Heilman entries in the Linn book on Persons Naturalized in PA 1740-1773, so anyone searching that reference should be familiar with collateral names as well - it sure doesn't take long to find the Hallman names.

Thanks, Edie, for this Naturalization List. I understand that before the Rev. War, anyone who was not British arriving in America was considered an alien & had to be naturalized, am I right? This would include all our German/ Swiss ancestors. Faith

Perhaps of interest: I believe there are some HALLMAN connections on this list, which was posted on another rootsweb list--(not all are Quakers). Edie PA QUAKERS NATURALIZED IN--1740 Cressman, John Phila Co. Ott, Henry Bucks Co. Vanlear, John George Chest Co. Rosenbergh, Benjamin Phila Co. Miller, Isaac Phila Co. Snider, Christian Phila Co. Harmony, Lodowick Phila Co. Vanfossen, John Phila Co. Shelliberger, John Phila Co. Trewby, Christopher Bucks Co. Nice, Mathias Phila Co. Stowfer, Christian Phila Co. Stettler, Henry Phila Co. Nice, Dewald Bucks Co. Redwal, Philip Phila Co. Hunter, John Phila Co. Michael Phila Co. Shrager, Gerrart Phila Co. Shrager, Gossen, Jun'r Phila Co. Fisher, Andrew Phila Co. Ritter, Michael Phila Co. Grall, Isaac Phila Co. Wood, George Phila Co. Snider, Johannes Phila Co. Wallber, Nicholas Bucks Co. Writter, Barthol Phila Co. Warley, Daniel Phila Co. Hunter, Anthony Phila Co. Peters, Jacob Phila Co. Peters, Peter Phila Co. Keeler, Valentine Phila Co. Goothouse, Henry Lanc Co. Shellig, John Philip Phila Co. Huber, Jacob Lanc Co. Hermell, Henrick Phila Co. Collman, Jacob Phila Co. Sailer, Abraham Phila Co. Gilbert, Anthony Phila Co. Naglee, Jacob Phila Co. Kintzing, Abraham Phila City Hows, George Phila Co. Shorn, George Phila Co. Berndaller, Daniel Phila Co. Gotshall, Herman Phila Co. Mackinel, Blassius Daniel Phila Co. Ott, Casper Bucks Co. Dibbindurfer, Alexander Bucks Co. Groothouse, John Phila Co. Souter, Jacob Phila Co. Wightman, Martin Lanc Co. Bensell, George Phila Co. Bensell, Charles Phila Co. Rabine, Nicholas Phila Co. Sharp, Philip Phila Co. Shadaire, Valentine Phila Co. Leberger, Adam Phila Co. Gull, John Phila Co. Feight, Casper Phila Co. Wykerline, Paul Phila Co. Omstadt, John Phila Co. Snider, Peter Bucks Co. Rattenhausen, Garret Phila Co. Bartholomew, John Phila Co. Wood, John Phila Co. Minser, Mark Phila Co. Hoffman, John George Phila Co. Woolfinger, Bernard Phila Co. Rezer, Baltes Phila Co. Crossman, George Phila Co. LittleJohn, Jno. George Bucks Co. Bard, Henry Phila Co. Wistar, Casper Phila City Smith, Joseph Phila Co. Heiser, John Phila Co. Rush, John Phila Co. Myer, Thomas Phila City Wistar, John Phila City Hassert, Arent Phila City Deshler, David Phila City (end of this list) http://www.rootsweb.com/~GENHOME/qk40b.htm

In a message dated 1/8/99 4:21:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, HALLMAN-D- request@rootsweb.com writes: << My most-wanted Hallman ancestors are the parents of my Gx2 Grandmother, Hannah Hallman, who married Mahlon Barlow in Montgomery County, PA, on June 1, 1848. Hannah was born on August 2, 1828, and died on September 8, 1903. I believe that she lived her entire life in Limerick Twp., Montgomery County. >> Elaine, With the limited area of Limerick Twp, have you read the actual census rolls for 1830, 1840, and 1850, to determine how many/which HALLMAN households were in residence? Also, Hannah is mentioned in the DAR books, in the lineage of her mother's EVANS family. I'm wondering if connection with EVANs researchers might turn up someone with names of Hannah's parents in their notes?? She may look like an orphan--sound like an orphan--but I bet she was not an orphan! Edie

My great-great grandfather Carl Hallmann was born in Garzigar, Kreis Lauenberg, Hiner-Pommern, Germany in 1835. He was the son of Martin Hallmann. He came to the US with his children about 1886 and settled in Chicago. There were other Hallmann's from this area of Germany living in Chicago since 1875. I would like to find other Hallmann's from Kreis Lauenberg. ____

Hi, all: For new subscribers and old subscribers, I am giving the address of the archives again. http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl When the page comes up, type in our list surname. Click on Remit Query. Next page that comes up, type in the given (first) name of the person you are researching. (Don't type in the surname alone.) Click on 1998 (not many on 1999 yet) Click remit. The messages will be in order of rating, ie. "100" means "You've found the best message for the name you've requested." The ratings get lower down the list. To read the "Full message" click on "Full." The Rootsweb addresses given below can be a help to Newbies on our list. HELPDESK TIPS. Your new computer is connected, you've ventured onto the Internet, you've discovered RootsWeb, but where should you begin? RootsWeb has a Web page especially for "newbies" at <http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~help/help/start.html>, and the HelpDesk is always available at <http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~help/index.htm>. Below is a new Rootsweb research address for England & Wales. Our ancestor didn't come from that area, but this address is given only for your information on other researches. I haven't checked this address yet, so can't say what is on it. FreeBMD HOSTED BY ROOTSWEB FreeBMD stands for "Free Births, Marriages, and Deaths." The FreeBMD project's objective is to provide free Internet access to the Civil Registration index information for England and Wales. For more information see <http://FreeBMD.rootsweb.com/> Good luck in your research this year! Faith Hutchings Your Listowner faith@verdenet.com

MOST-WANTED: My most-wanted Hallman ancestors are the parents of my Gx2 Grandmother, Hannah Hallman, who married Mahlon Barlow in Montgomery County, PA, on June 1, 1848. Hannah was born on August 2, 1828, and died on September 8, 1903. I believe that she lived her entire life in Limerick Twp., Montgomery County. Hannah (Hallman) and Mahlon Barlow had 8 children: the eldest was my great grandfather, John Franklin Barlow, who was born May 1, 1849, and married Mary M. Clemens, after which they moved to Blackhawk County, Iowa. John Franklin Barlow died there in 1910. I have been looking for Hannah's parents for many months, and am beginning to suspect that she may have been an orphan. <:-) just kidding>. Any help will be appreciated. Thank you. Elaine Jeter <ejeter@concentric.net> Voice=619.485.0694; Fax=619.485.7908

Hello, Hallmans, Welcome to our new members! Our list activity has been slow lately. I hope everyone enjoyed the holidays. I'd like to see more participation now. I've been thinking it would be nice to see some short stories related to your Hallman ancestors--funny, sad, or just interesting--on one or more of your Hallman ancestors, or their related families. Of-course, we still want to see your lineage posted, too. If you haven't posted it for a month or so, or if you haven't had replies to your query, post it again. We have some new members so there's a chance one of them might have the information you need. If you can't think of an anecdote about a ancester, how about posting your "MOST WANTED" ancestor--the one you'd like to find his/her birth or death date, his/her parents, etc. You get the gist of it. Hope to see you on-line, Faith Hutchings Your Listowner faith@verdenet.com

What a difference one letter can make! For those of you who tried to reach the above website, the CORRECT address is: http://users.erinet.com/31363/fordand.htm Faith Hutchings

This website is worth a look. These two website owners travel through the country and pick up old family Bibles, photos, documents, etc. They have them listed in alpha order on their website. I didn't spot any HALLMAN photos, but you might want to check them out for other ancestors. If you recognize the names of any ancestors in the descriptions of the photos or Bible, they will SELL them to you if you can show proof of relationship. I don't know what they charge but if you find an ancestor's photo, etc., it might be worth it. http://usprs.erinet.com/31363/fordand.htm Faith Hutchings Your Listowner faith@verdenet.com

Hi, all you Hallmans, Rootsweb has been providing FREE access for queries on Surname Lists, FREE websites for amateur genealogists, and they are now teaming up with GenConnect to supply Boards on which ALL (not just subscribers) can post queries. We can also open Boards to post Obits, Cemeteries, etc. I haven't gone into that yet, as I seem to have my hands full with what have now. If any of you are interested in managing a "Board", let me know. When you think about it, nothing really is free. Someone, somewhere is paying for what we receive. The Rootsweb volunteers are giving their time, plus their own money, to give us this service. I don't want any of you to feel you have to support Rootsweb. However, if you feel the service we are getting from them is worth one dollar a month--that's all it takes to become a Contributor. I copied the message below to let you know the seriousness of the situation at this time. Please read it carefully. If you feel you would like to become a Contributor to Rootsweb for service provided, past and future, you can learn more by clicking on the address below. http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html Thanks so much. You are all wonderful people! Faith Hutchings Your Listowner. >As we enter this New Year of 1999 I am a bit concerned about the future of >genealogical research on the Internet as we now know it. I am concerned >that we could be falling on hard times when it comes to the sharing and >FREE exchange of data including our mailing lists, GenConnect Boards, US >and World GenWeb and the Archives for these projects, IIGS, and many other >projects run largely by volunteers. > >The developments over the past few months and years in which Banner Blue >AND Parsons were swallowed up by Broderbund, and then Broderbund was >swallowed up once again by The Learning Company, who also gobbled up >Palladium Interactive (producers of Ultimate Family Tree); and The >Learning Company just now being taken over by Mattel--all serve to put us >in the very bad situation in which approximately 85% of the >genealogy-related programs and data are falling into the hands of of this >one huge company. In addition Ancestry (another for- profit business) >just sold 30% of their company to CMG (a venture capital company) for >$10,000,000. This is money on top of the $60/year they get from "tens of >thousands of subscribers" (from the Wall Street Journal). The venture >capitalists will be expecting a large return for their investment--which >will be paid for by us genealogists. > >All of this puts both Ancestry and Mattel in a very powerful position of >being able to buy datasets of information (thus acquiring exclusive rights >to those datasets) and sell them at inflated prices to the public who >believe this is the only way things can be done. This move is already well >under way. The more people paying top dollar for the information either >through subscription, or the purchase of CDs, the more money the powerful >for-profit companies will have to again purchase the rights to additional >records and books. > >The longterm goal of the many volunteer workers, and of RootsWeb which >hosts many of the projects, is to provide free access to genealogical >information. I know it has the folks at RootsWeb VERY troubled right now >that they do not have the resources to stop this avalanche of vital >records and publications being purchased and removed from FREE public >access for all time. In order to stop the flow of this information into >the hands of the large companies it would be necessary for RootsWeb to >purchase them and then offer them for free access to all of us on their >Web space. They would like very much to accomplish this before it is >forever too late to do so. While the access to the information is FREE, >it is far from FREE acquiring the rights to the information in the first >place. All of the mergers and acquisitions of the past year or so create >a very serious threat to the continuance of genealogical research on the >Internet as we now know it and as most of us believe it should be in the >future. We are no longer playing on a level playing field. I think >everyone needs to give this matter serious thought as we start the New >Year. Everyone needs to decide what they want the future of Internet >genealogy to be and then support what they feel is the correct approach. > >We need to examine our goals and what we would LIKE to see for the future >of Internet genealogy. Do we want to see a future where all genealogical >source materials must be bought and paid top dollar for, or would we >rather see the information put online at non-subscription Web sites so >that future genealogists can access them freely? It may already be too >late with the recent mergers and acquisitions creating such large powerful >companies with deep pockets that are very difficult to match on a dollar >for dollar basis. I think everyone doing genealogical research on the >Internet needs to consider whether they would like to support the efforts >of RootsWeb with a small contribution of $12 (more would be even better) >or whether they would like to see the world of the future of genealogy >dominated by the large for-profit companies who can sell the same data >(and hold exclusive rights to it) at whatever the market will support. >Some serious food for thought for the coming New Year! > >I will now get off my soapbox and promise not to be so "preachy" again >very soon, but I feel this matter is an important one to us all and today >seemed the appropriate time to discuss it with all of you. > >Happy New Year! > >Joan M. Young, Administrator >Geiger GenConnect Boards

There was 1 Halman listed in Starr's genealogy of old Cherokee Families. The index to his book, the 1835 Cherokee Census, a 'how-to' tutorial that shows how to conduct Cherokee genealogy research, as well as the indexes for a number of other very rare books, and other Cherokee genealogy resources, can be found at: http://members.aol.com/rarebk Once at the site, go to BOOKLISTS and then scroll down to the Cherokee genealogy portion. A number of indexes can be invoked from there. Thanks, Jim ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]