I think you all have given me a possible reason for not being able to get past my great-great grandfather, Leonard Hall. Leonard was born in Delaware County, New York in 1824. He surfaced in Rock County, Wisconsin, and from there on I have the complete history. He married Lucy Adeline Wilder, and I have the Wilder line way back to England in the 1500's. My Hall grandparents were very open -- my great-grandfather had settled in Fayette County, Iowa. My aunt, age 89, is still around, and very alert. She has given me so much information and photos, plus our Hall family Bible. Maybe the Wisconsin and Iowa Halls were a different breed! I think I am lucky to have so much information. But I certainly would like to find Leonard's parents and possible siblings! Joan Hall Alyea Colorado

Yes Diana, I am researching my Hall ancestry in Northern Virginia. My Grandfather was Henry Arthur Hall who married Maude Fletcher. They had the following children: Arthur Randolph Hall ( my Father ) Clay J, Ada Lee, Lillian and Ethel. Henry Arthur's Father was William T Hall who married Alice Preston. They had at least two children, Henry Arthur and Nanny Lee. All of the above Halls lived in and around Round Hill, Loudoun County Virginia from the early 1800's to the mid 1900's. Henry Arthur died in 1936, Maude died in 1946, both are buried in the Lakeview Cemetery in Hamilton Virginia as is my Father. I can trace my Grandmother Maude Fletcher Hall back to the mid 1700's but I hit a stone wall beyond William T Hall. If you or anyone else has data on this line of Hall's I would appreciate any contacts. Best Regards, Arthur R Hall Jr. (xray@innernet.net)

I'm researching my husband's Hall line in Northern Virginia -his grandmother was a Hall and although we knew they had been in Northern Virginia 100+ years, no one ever said much about the Hall line beyond her grandfather - I know why, now! Her great grandfather was murdered in 1855 and that's one of the first things I found when I started this line - and I've since been able to piece together some of his ancestry from court records but not who his parents were or anything about his wife. And none of those alive today in this line - ever even knew about the murder - I've located the inquest papers and his death bed statement, etc.. but not much on his ancestors. Any one researching the Hall surname in Northern Virginia?? Diana

I married into a Hall family...kind of around the back door. Even though my husband is a Spencer, my husbands' mother was a Hall and although she was always willing to talk to me about her family, nobody seems to know anything past her grandpa, James Henderson Hall, what his mother and father's name was, where they were from or anything else! I've come to the conclusion that we have Melungeon roots. I was told that they Hall kids weren't allowed to go to white schools because they were Indian, but after some research, I've found out they weren't accused of being Indian, they were accused of being "colored". I have only been able to find newspaper articles about it so far, the actually court case was granted a change of venue from Howell County, MO to Texas County, MO back in 1889 and I'm afraid those actual papers may be lost. The Texas County Court house burned back in the 1920's and my sister-in-law hasn't had any luck finding anything in Howell County....all that remains are the newspaper articles. They did say that the Hall's produced affidavits from older family members (that's the main reason I wanted the court cases...the "older Hall family member's" names) stating that they were of Portuguese decent and they were originally from a sea faring family who settled back east and did very well before they moved to Missouri. James Henderson Hall's military record says he was born in Bedford County, Tennessee. Has anyone else heard similar stories? Laura

I to was a Hall, I had a wonderful, strict Dad, he was good to me. My Daddy was one that would tell you if he knew anything, the only thing when he was around to tell me stuff I was not interested in Genealogy, which upsets me now. The Uncle that is still living and could tell us, will not. My Hall side and Pennington side is going to be a brick wall, cause no one will talk. My Grandpa Benjamin Franklin Hall was a General Baptist Minister, he married Rebecca Pennington in Letcher Co KY in 1889 Barb Hall Carlile ----- Original Message ----- From: "J HALL" <Jrh22@hotmail.com> To: <HALL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 6:06 AM Subject: Re: Why we do it! > Nancy, I know how you feel about some of the Halls,,,I have some in my data > base also that will not share,,I guess it is in the Hall nature. My Father > would not give you the time of the day,,but he would take all you would give > him and more. I have been told his Father was the same way. Makes you wonder > if this is one of the Halls traits through out all of the Halls. My Father > is about 97 now and he has not changed, but I still love him. > Take care and may God Bless,,,,, > > Jessie & Lynne Hall > http://www.geocities.com/heartland/woods/5549 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: nancy johnson <nancykay1@netscape.net> > To: <HALL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2000 10:42 PM > Subject: Why we do it! > > > > Pat, > > Your "letter" brought tears to my eyes. My Mother died > > when I was 10. My father was a SOB. He destroyed almost > > everything of hers. Not because he couldn't bear to have > > it remind him of her. Because his "girlfriend" couldn't > > handle that he hadn't left my mother while she lay > > dying in the hospital. All I have of her is a few > > trinkets and what little I remember of her. > > There is a Hall that has a lot of info on the family, > > but for some reason won't share it with me. Why I don't > > know. I only met him once for a very short time. He may > > not have much or anything on my mother. But anything on > > my mother's family would make me feel like at least I > > knew some of the people she knew. > > > > Thank You > > > > Nancy Blevins-Johnson > > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at > http://webmail.netscape.com. > > > > >

I am copying some of these messages and sending them to my Dad. I thought I had it harder than most but it seems to be a family trait. My father didn't even know where his grandfather was born or died. My Dad was raised by his Aunt mostly and the family wasn't very close so when I started I had nothing except a misspelled name of Evert (actually Everett) who died less than 60 miles from where my father went to high school. My Father was also distant and strict having been raised by his Uncle, a minister who died during a sermon. I find the most interesting things here on these lists. Sincerely Rodney Hall Subknave@msn.com

Funny, I have been so busy lately I haven't been reading many of the posts. Yet I'm a direct line Hall too (my maiden name). I sure have Hall stories to tell about those men. Yet through my gen research I have learned what made them tick, (somewhat). Mine were all southern Baptists, raised hard and stern. They then all thought, "Oh, you gotta do that". And it made them the way I just read in Jesse's message. Since they had to "give all" to their fathers they would then expect the same. My dad rebelled early escaping in World War 2 then moving to California yet it never changed his nature or "guilt". I lost him early (I was 22) and through my gen quest learned to forgive him and see the good, (not glossing over the bad, merely understanding it a whole lot better). It also allowed me to forge a relationship with my brother that I never thought I could, (hey, he's a Hall male!!!). Anyway, never give up and try to break through the barriers. Crack by crack. Michelle Hall

Nancy, I know how you feel about some of the Halls,,,I have some in my data base also that will not share,,I guess it is in the Hall nature. My Father would not give you the time of the day,,but he would take all you would give him and more. I have been told his Father was the same way. Makes you wonder if this is one of the Halls traits through out all of the Halls. My Father is about 97 now and he has not changed, but I still love him. Take care and may God Bless,,,,, Jessie & Lynne Hall http://www.geocities.com/heartland/woods/5549 ----- Original Message ----- From: nancy johnson <nancykay1@netscape.net> To: <HALL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2000 10:42 PM Subject: Why we do it! > Pat, > Your "letter" brought tears to my eyes. My Mother died > when I was 10. My father was a SOB. He destroyed almost > everything of hers. Not because he couldn't bear to have > it remind him of her. Because his "girlfriend" couldn't > handle that he hadn't left my mother while she lay > dying in the hospital. All I have of her is a few > trinkets and what little I remember of her. > There is a Hall that has a lot of info on the family, > but for some reason won't share it with me. Why I don't > know. I only met him once for a very short time. He may > not have much or anything on my mother. But anything on > my mother's family would make me feel like at least I > knew some of the people she knew. > > Thank You > > Nancy Blevins-Johnson > > ____________________________________________________________________ > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. > >

Hi Group I have been reading about how close mouth the Halls are. Wow, this is going to be a task. I really don't have much to go on. My great Aunt was married to a Hall first name? I am actually researching the Frankenberger's of Jasper Co., Mo. I was just trying to find some of the family. It seems that everything has stopped there. My grest Aunt Blanch (Frankenberger) Hall, was living in Baxter Springs, Ks.in 1948. If there is any one out there that knows of her, all I want is to include her family in my family tree. She was born in the late 1800. Diane Coleman

Pat, Your "letter" brought tears to my eyes. My Mother died when I was 10. My father was a SOB. He destroyed almost everything of hers. Not because he couldn't bear to have it remind him of her. Because his "girlfriend" couldn't handle that he hadn't left my mother while she lay dying in the hospital. All I have of her is a few trinkets and what little I remember of her. There is a Hall that has a lot of info on the family, but for some reason won't share it with me. Why I don't know. I only met him once for a very short time. He may not have much or anything on my mother. But anything on my mother's family would make me feel like at least I knew some of the people she knew. Thank You Nancy Blevins-Johnson ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.

((Forward= Please do not reply)) Subj: Why We Do It From: PACJ1945@aol.com I received this today from a cousin that I have not yet met. I know that all of you can relate to this. Pat C. Johns WHY WE DO IT Today I want to describe for you what finding our ancestors in terms of being one of the major reasons why I do what I do these days on the Internet, for myself, for my children and grandchildren and for others....and I have an idea, that similar circumstances are the reason many researchers are involved as well. I think more than a few of you will identify with my thoughts and motivations here... I loved that old homeplace dearly, as many of you loved a similar place that now exists only in your minds and hearts. I frequently "walk" through it, escaping todays to yesterdays and memories, willing myself to remember the touch of fabric, the coolness of hardwood floors on my barefeet, the weight of a fat white china cup in my hands, the way the afternoon sun slanted and cast shadows on the floor of a long front porch. Those memories are a comfort to me, because beyond the "things" I have that were there, they are all I have left of the place I knew. I know that many of you feel the same, and have another place you "walk" for comfort at times. But those memories I have, and you have, will be gone all too soon, leaving this world at the same time that we do...just as the memories of our grandfathers and great-grandmothers left with them, and unless they are given and passed on, it is as if those things had never been other than what "facts" are left behind on scraps of paper. This came to me in a very real way recently when the daughter of my first cousin (who is now gone to the next world) contacted me. A young mother, the family's heritage is beginning to be of importance to her. And she asked for my memories, the memories her mother died before she could pass on...and so I have begun to write them for her and to give her what I cannot leave in any tangible form other than description. I have walked her through the family homeplace willing her to see through my eyes, and I have introduced her to the great-grandfather she never knew, trying to give her a balanced picture of him, the good and the bad, making him human and of breathing living flesh for her. For the same reason, documenting the family line in that country is also important. I want to know who the grandparents of my grandfather were, because I have no memories of him telling me about them. I know he must have treasured memories of those who lived in his time, and I know he must have treasured the stories that he heard of those who did not. Because it was important to him, and knowing him, I know it is important to me. My grandfather was of another world and time, as many of yours were. And in that day and time, the passing on of roots came through the oral tradition. They little understood that the coming ways of this world would leave little inclination or time for oral passing of roots...and that unless a generation following them had the wisdom to record it, all was lost. I rue that I was young when he sat so long talking his long tales of "who beget who" and of things that had happened, where they happened, and those who peopled those stories. I am frustrated that I, as did his children, "tuned" much of this out. It is not just a matter of "proving" a lineage...much, much more, it is a matter of salvaging that which was important to one I loved...and giving it to those like my cousin's children and my own children.... passing on the things that were of importance in an endless chain of loving memories. I cannot turn back the clock, and I cannot make my grandfather be here again with me at a time in which I am ready and mature enough now to listen to his endless stories that wound on hour after hour....but I still draw breath, and I can piece together what I can find, add to that what I do remember...and give the next generation something far more precious than the money. We no longer have our Murphy or Howard or Dodd or Greathouse homes in Alabama, and even some of the family burial grounds where my great grandfather, great great grandfather and possibly before that are buried, have been taken from us. All we have is our history....and so you see why it is important beyond description that we preserve our history. It is all we have left of our roots. And I suspect that many of you, if for whatever reason your ancestral lands and homeplace are gone, feel the same. Please remember this when others contact you. Their reasons may have nothing to do with wanting to join an elite organization, may have nothing to do with idle curiosity, may have nothing to do with simple scholarship and an abiding love of research....more often, I am finding, it is a situation in which family history is an anchor to hold to in this fast-paced and all too impersonal world. It is a situation in which all the heritage or "home" a family has left is its history. It is a situation in which a person regrets not finding important those things elders talked of at the time they talked of them, and with maturity wants to salvage what they can of the memories of elders who went on before them.Your words and help are often far more important than you can possibly realize, and will cause a heart to leap, bring tears to an eye in gratitude. In other words, it is often a matter of the "heart" and any small tidbit or fact, any direction you can find time to give, is more meaningful than gold to that person who longs so desperately to find his or her humble link in a long chain...and pass it on, giving the generation to come roots and a sense of belonging in a world that is uncertain. "...and departing leave behind us, footprints in the sands of time." Pat Dodd Greathouse

Would someone send me the last 12 hours of messages. I've had an oops with my mail server and all my incoming messages have been deleted. Thanks, Lisa

I am continuing my search for relatives of my husband's natural father. Jackie Ray Hall was possibly born in Little Rock Arkansas approx 1933. His two other children were Cynthia Rae and Michael Jack both born in the early 50's. Wife's name was ? Penny. jackie Ray was ex Navy man and had two bluebirds tatooed on his chest. Lived on Paso Robles in Granada Hills in the 50's. My husband would really like to find his siblings. If you're a relative please post!!!!! TIA diane

(Do not reply to sender, forwarded from:: Fm: "Paul M. Bessel" > INTERNET:bessel@erols.com) Sb: PSOC: Masonic genealogy Brethren, Many of us frequently receive questions, mainly from non-Masons but also from Masons, about how to research an ancestor who was, or might have been a Mason. I have put together a new webpage that attempts to answer this type of question by giving details about the best ways to do Masonic genealogy research. It's at http://bessel.org/genealgy.htm Please feel free to check this webpage, and to let me know if you have any suggestions for changes to improve the information there. Fraternally, Paul

Does anyone have any information on Edward and Joseph Hall who resided in Nottingham, Rockingham Co, NH about 1730? Sara Romano

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Had a chance to look up the Wilkes Co., NC web site that may be of interest to you. It is http://aesir.damerica.net/~dhardy/Notes/hall.htm Buell Hall ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe Burgess <kuzzins@rvi.net> To: <HALL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 9:12 PM Subject: Introduction > Hi Listers: > > I subscribe to several rootsweb lists, but am new to the HALL list. If anyone is interested, here are my Hall lines: I have one for sure, and perhaps two, and would like to hear from new-found kuzzins. > > First, the for sure one: from George and Mary HALL of England, Duxbury, and Taunton, Mass. through Samuel 2 and Elizabeth (White), Ebenezer (3) and Jane (Bumpas), Ebenezer 4 and Hannah (___), Ebenezer 5 and Susannah (Young), George Washington 6 and Elizabeth (Burgess), and Eliza 7 and her first cousin once removed Edward Burgess. > > The other line: from the first that I know of: Samuel HALL, Sr., d. abt. 1792, Wilkes Co., NC and Millian (Webb), and their son Samuel, Jr.(1760-1819), who reportedly through a relationship with my 3-great grandmother Mary (Dugger) was the father of 2ggf Lawson GOODWIN. > > I have almost no information on the Southern family, but several sources on my New England HALLs, as well as the Rev. David B. Hall, A.M.'s 1883 "The Halls of New England." Would be pleased to do look-ups. > > Joe Burgess > Grants Pass, Oregon > > >

Seeking the parents of Lovinas HALL born 7 Nov 1829 died 17 Sep 1907 Bates Twp., Iron Co., Michigan married 8 Mar 1853 Smethport, McKean Co., PA Eliz M. EDMUNSON born 11 Feb 1830 Coleraine, co. Lunundary died 20 Nov 1923 Bates Twp, Michigan. Thanks, Betty Ferguson ferguson@in.on.ca

Looking for any relative/descendant of Jackie Ray Hall born in Michigan approx 1934. Thank you , diane...... Riese/Meyer/Strauss/Goodman/Jacobs/Hall

Greetings from Japan. I have encountered a brick wall in my Hall line. I am trying to verify the birth date of my m. grandfather, Henry Homer Hall. He stated that he was born in St. Lawrence County, NY on Sept. 20, 1883. [ Though other doc. reflect 1881 and 1882. ] A standard inquiry to the NY State Archives provided no verification of birth. Through interviews, I found that Henry said that be became an orphan, growing up in Grand Rapids and Big Rapids, MI. Though I have not been able to verify his parents death (Charles William Hall, father). The father was a builder/ contractor. One possible theory I have is Henry H. Hall was born in Canada and was brought through St. Lawrence County. I have some physical characteristics of Inuit people. This line of Hall's is guessed at coming across the big pond from Scotland. If there are any Hall researchers in the St. Lawrence or same area on the Canada side, I would love to hear your ideas and thoughts on how I might proceed on my search.