They are in Massachusetts, south of Boston. I believe they were originally associated with the Plymouth colony. john. At 05:49 PM 7/17/2007, Grace Upshaw wrote: >For Bonnie: Where are Scituate and Marshfield ?

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For Bonnie: Where are Scituate and Marshfield ?

Too much chatter on the Hall rootsweb. I have two defferent sets of Halls I am working on, but there is so much chatter on here I am going to get off for a while. ----- Original Message ----- From: "nelhatch" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 4:34 PM Subject: Re: [HALL] DNA > > HATCHER website: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/faq.htm > HATCHER DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hatDNA.htm > HALL DNA project: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm > "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D > Greenwood > > Sharron, > > Did Dave answer your question regarding the Hall order site? > > Nel > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

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John - thanks for the advice - here's some details. I am trying to find/prove John P. Hall's parents. I totally agree about the census records, his birth year reports as 1843 both when his parents would have been the informer and when he or his wife would have been, so I've taken it as a "likely". Have searched all online marriage sources that I know of for Kentucky or Hardin County (all the usual suspects, Ancestry, Genweb, Rootsweb, Kindred Trails, Cyndi'sList, Hardin County, State of Kentucky Google, etc) and cannot locate a marriage record. As far as Morton I cannot tell you how many hours I've poured over census records searching for two sisters named Sarah and Matilda the right ages. Only recently it dawned on me that Morton could have been Matilda's married name. I've tried again but without even an idea of a surname, that's proved difficult, although I'm persevering. Newspapers, that's a good idea. Based on where his living wife/son/grandchildren were living, I will need to make the drive, it's Alexander County, a tiny county in Southern Illinois bordered by Missouri and Kentucky and nothing there is microfilmed. No idea where Sarah is buried either, their son who died before they did is buried in Alexander County, in a cemetery that is no longer in use, but the headstone is much newer than the other stones in the cemetery, later Hall descendants are there as well. My Great-uncle did a survey of all the cemeteries in the county for a book published in the 70's and there is no record of either of them. Even my Great-Great Grandfather has controversy where he is buried, one Great-aunt says he was buried in one cemetery, one says the other, no tombstone in either and no one seems to know where if any, are the cemetery records. They were a poor, farming family for generations. The joy of the small, rural county. Very good idea on the in-laws. I've searched the records based on all permutations of his name, I'll try again with Sarah Hall instead. The only John Hall, I found in the 1870 census in Kentucky at the right age that wasn't married to someone not named Sarah was in the penitentiary, so nothing to identify him. Another good idea on Barney. It has been a family name at least since Barney Edward Hall (son of John P.) He named his first son Barney Ray, when that child died, he named the next son he had Barney Ray again. I appreciate the help, and if anyone has additional information on John P. Hall or Ignatius Hall in Hardin County Kentucky from 1818 forward, I would love to hear from you! I can share info on what happened to the branch of the family when they moved to Alexander County Illinois. Denise ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Thank you. Nel. ----- Original Message ----- From: "nelhatch" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [HALL] John of MA, c1611 > > HATCHER website: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/faq.htm > HATCHER DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hatDNA.htm > HALL DNA project: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm > "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D > Greenwood > > Hmmm! Just testing to see how many are interested?? :-) > > Try http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HTrees29.htm > > Mea culpa! > > Nel > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.8/904 - Release Date: 7/16/2007 > 5:42 PM > >

I have tried this link on two browsers and can't make it open. Can you check this ? Thank you. http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/HTrees29.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "nelhatch" <[email protected]> To: "HALLlist" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 3:45 PM Subject: [HALL] John of MA, c1611 > > HATCHER website: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/faq.htm > HATCHER DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hatDNA.htm > HALL DNA project: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm > "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D > Greenwood > > For all you guys salivating over our new tester, John of MA, you can now > view his detailed tree at > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/HTrees29.htm > > Enjoy! > > Nel > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.8/904 - Release Date: 7/16/2007 > 5:42 PM > >

Jeff, Sorry but I'm not sure which John you are hoping to see here. My e-mail address shows jhall and is after my husband John Hall. A couple of times people who were addressing me, Roberta, mistook it for John. So not to be rude, which John are you talking about. I live about 20 mile s.w. of Chicago, is this were you are going? Love to compare note with you if this is your destination. Roberta ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Hall" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 6:52 AM Subject: Re: [HALL] HALL Digest, Vol 2, Issue 137 > Nel, that John Hall is a huge find! I have my fingers crossed! > > John, I may try to stop by on my vacation time next week. It would be a > pleasure to meet you! > > Jeff > > Jeff Hall > > Amherst, New Hampshire, New England, USA > > HALL DNA project Family 2 - Kit Number 33260: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm > > Deacon RICHARD HALL of Hull(-1670), Haverhill(1670-1673), and > Bradford(1673-1730), Massachusetts project: > http://www.designscience.com/Genealogy/richardhall/ > > **************************** > > Since New England seems to be the hot spot recently, I thought I'd let you > know we have a new tester whose tree is roughly as follows: > > John Hall, born in England ca 1611 - to New England ca 1630 - lived in > Charlestown, MA, Barnstable, MA, and Yarmouth (now Dennis), MA, where he > died in 1696. > > Nel > > *********************************888 > > john. > Nashua, NH > > PS: Jeff, sometime when you are coming to Nashua, let's get together and > swap some stories. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > >

In a message dated 7/17/07 11:02:27 AM, [email protected] writes: > My brick wall is with John Hall born abt 1676 - don't know where,  married > Abigail White on 27 Feb 1705 in Scituate, and died 30 Jan 1770 in  > Marshfield.  > I have seen people guess for some reason that his father's  name was > Timothy, > but no one has ever proved that and I don't necessarily  agree. > > The reason they guess Timothy is because he has a son named Timothy.   But > he > also has (an older) son John.  His wife's father was Timothy, so I  would > assume that is why the second son is Timothy. > Long shot. But I'd be looking at the White family and go out from there. I'd be looking specifically at Elizabeth White who married Samuel Hall. Try to come in the back door. Any DNA candidates? Kathryn ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

HATCHER website: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/faq.htm HATCHER DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hatDNA.htm HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood Judy wrote: We are going to order a test kit for our Hall line. Our uncle (my father's brother) lives in AR. I told him he doesn't have to do anything except submit a swab sample. Perhaps I should have the kit sent to me here in Canada so I can fill out the EKA info, etc., then send to him in AR, and have him send back to me? Being elderly, he is not inclined to fill in the info needed. I assured him that all he needs to do is submit a sample, then drop posted package in the mail. ----------------------- Judy, You will be the one who fills out the order form so you will be in control of filling in all info and where you want the kit sent - to your uncle or to you. Since you obviously do not live near your uncle, there's no point in sending the kit to you and then you resending it to him. The only problem I can see is in how you pay. If by credit card, there will be no problem - you can do that online when you order. But if you intend to pay by invoice (check or MO), your uncle must return the kit to you so that you can include payment OR you must send your check to him and hope he doesn't forget to stick it in the return package. You will be the one who must provide your EKA data so no problem for your uncle. The one thing he WILL be responsible for is signing the release form so that your results will be available to all FTDNA testers. Nel

HATCHER website: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/faq.htm HATCHER DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hatDNA.htm HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood Sharron, Did Dave answer your question regarding the Hall order site? Nel

I am on about two dozen lists, some are very busy. I ALWAYS use DIGEST mode. Digest mode is much easier to deal with than a zillion individual e-mails. You can skim right thru the subject lines and just zoom down to the ones that interest you. Don't leave the list...switch to DIGEST MODE. NEL, could you share very simple instructions as to how to switch modes??? Dianne Larson Ward 6th great granddaughter of Moses Hall and Margaret Duke -- Forgiveness is the economy of the heart... Forgiveness saves the expense of anger, the cost of hatred, the waste of spirits. Hannah More

I have asked a couple of times before, but since the list is so active right now I figured, why not try again! - My brick wall is with John Hall born abt 1676 - don't know where, married Abigail White on 27 Feb 1705 in Scituate, and died 30 Jan 1770 in Marshfield. I have seen people guess for some reason that his father's name was Timothy, but no one has ever proved that and I don't necessarily agree. The reason they guess Timothy is because he has a son named Timothy. But he also has (an older) son John. His wife's father was Timothy, so I would assume that is why the second son is Timothy. Any ideas? Thanks, Bonnie ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

In a message dated 7/16/2007 8:53:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: I'm now wondering if Mesa would have such a library? A lot of local LDS churches do have a Family History Center, but not all of them do. I'm sure there is probably one near you, so don't give up if the first one you find doesn't have one. They would definitely be able to tell you where the closest one is. Bonnie ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Denise, Please see below... john. At 09:36 AM 7/17/2007, [email protected] wrote: >Here is my brick wall. Any ideas or anyone else researching Halls in Hardin >County Kentucky, I would love to correspond with. Are you trying to prove his parents or trying to find his death date? >John P. (possibly Peas) Hall born 1843 (according to several years of >census records, but we know how accurate those can be), all his >census records, including the early ones when he and his wife were >still living in >Elizabethtown, Hardin County, Kentucky say he was born in Kentucky. Census records can be very accurate but not precise. IE, if you see a series of records that have him born about 1843 in KY, based both on his parents as informer and as himself as informer, then he is likely born about 1843 in Kentucky. The issue with census records is the informer. All too often, I find that the informer seems to be an older child or a second spouse who does not know where husband was born vs. where he may have told he grew up. In 1880 and subsequent census, where parents were born because a problem. I find that early children seem to know more of the family history than the later children. Used intelligently, census records may be some of the most valuable sources we have. The group think that likes to criticize or belittle them is wrong. All too often I hear "census bad, could not locate so and so". When I looked it was often a case that indexing was bad and researcher did not try hard enough to find the person. Or the person had moved and the researcher did not know it. When I go looking for a census entry, I expect to find it, and I estimate less than 5% of the time I come up empty. >J.P. as he as known, married Sarah A. (whose sister is named >Matilda Morton unfortunately don't know if that is her maiden or >married name) Do you have the actual marriage record? It might list the names of his parents. In 1880 census, Matilda is listed as age 25, b. KY, single, sister-in-law. What have you done to try to locate her in the earlier census? In 1860, you should be able to find a Matilda, age about 5, and Sarah/Sally, age about 12, in same family named Morton. Probably need to soundex that search. >In the 1880 census of Elizabethtown, Hardin Co. KY, J.P. and Sarah >are married and have two children, George b. 1867 in KY and Barney >Edward (my gggrandfather) b. 1870 in KY. Barney was married in >Alexander County Illinois (on the Kentucky border) in 1894. J.P. >and Sarah appear in the 1900 census in Alexander County, and I have >found several references in various books about Alexander County to >J.P. and "Grandma" Hall as J.P. also served as one of the first >Justices of the Peace for Olive Branch, Illinois. J.P. died >sometime between this 1900 census and the next as Sarah is listed as >a widow in that one, with her two grandchildren from George living >with her. Family lore says J.P. was buried in Olive Branch, cannot >find a record of that. A cousin gave me info from another >cousin who says he died in South Bend Indiana, cannot find record >of that either and I have found numerous errors in that data. >Despite searching in three states cannot find a death certificate. Have you tried looking for newspaper files? If he died between 1900 and 1910 and wife was living in same town for both 1900 and 1910 census, you should look in newspapers in that county. Where was Sarah buried? Check records for that cemetery. By 1900, bodies were routinely being sent by train back home for burial. If you can find her, you will likely find him. >Decided to try to find parents so, I searched every Hall family in >Hardin County Kentucky and found the following closest match. >Ignatius Hall family in Elizabethtown, Hardin County. Ignatius was >born about 1816 in KY, wife Elizabeth, had several children, among >them John P. Hall born about 1843. They appear in >the 1850/1860/1870 census records, John with them in 1850 and 1860. >This is just a lead as it is the only John P. in Elizabethtown with >the right birth date, but of course no guarantees that "my" John P. >was in Elizabethtown prior to his appearing there in the 1880 cenus. It is a good theory. A good starting place is to try to find evidence to refute it. If JP or John P is not obviously found in 1870 census, he may be listed with his in-laws. You should try to find out where the name Barney came from. john. > >I cannot find any mention of Halls in county or city histories. > >Any ideas? >thanks >Denise >MSA

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My brick wall is John Hall, born ca 1774 in Monroe County, West Virginia. He married Delilah Neal on 15 March 1799 in Monroe County, West Virginia.. They moved to Scioto and Lawrence County, Ohio. He died March 1846 in Lawrence County, Ohio. I descend from his son, Zachariah Hall, born 10 March 1800 in Monroe County, West Virginia. Zachariah married Juliana Ball on 7 March 1822 in Scioto County, Ohio. Zachariahs son, Levi Hall, born 8 March 1824 moved from Lawrence County, Ohio across the river to Greenup County, Kentucky before the 1850 census.