I am interested in the 3 James Halls of 1800 Iredell Co. NC. Here is the run-down recorded by Heritage Quest. 1800 Iredell Co. NC Halls HALL ADAM NC IREDELL SALISBURY DIST 1800 HALL ALEXANDER NC IREDELL SALISBURY DIST 1800 HALL DAVID NC IREDELL SALISBURY DIST 1800 HALL FARGUS NC IREDELL SALISBURY DIST 1800 HALL GEORGE NC IREDELL SALISBURY DIST 1800 HALL HUGH NC IREDELL SALISBURY DIST 1800 HALL JAMES NC IREDELL SALISBURY DIST 1800 HALL JAMES NC IREDELL SALISBURY DIST 1800 HALL JAMES H NC IREDELL SALISBURY DIST 1800 HALL JOHN NC IREDELL SALISBURY DIST 1800 HALL JOHN NC IREDELL SALISBURY DIST 1800 HALL THOMAS NC IREDELL SALISBURY DIST 1800 HALL WILLIAM NC IREDELL SALISBURY DIST 1800 Did one of the James Halls go to Johnston Co. NC by 1820? Betty Pace - [email protected]

Here are some Hall marriages in Franklin Co. NC HALL -- FRANKLIN CO. NC MARRIAGES HAIL, Joseph Rebeckah IVEY 13 SEP 1808 HALL, Isaac Sarah ONBY 11 SEP 1832 HALL, James E. Fanny CHEATHAM 18 MAY 1868 HALL, John Ruth PERRY 14 NOV 1789 HALL, Thomas Cloe BRASWELLl 03 NOV 1838 ROSS, James Elizabeth HALL 06 OCT 1810 Betty Pace - [email protected]

http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/nc/duplin/census/1784cens.txt column one = white male 21 to 60 years old column two = other white male column three = white female column four = Black age 12 to 50 column five = other Black SURNAME Given COUNT District HALL William 1-2-6 Stallin's HALL David 1-0-2 Stallin's HALL Wm. 1-4-1-6-4 Hubbard's HALL Drury 1-1-2 Southerland HALL James 1 Southerland HALL Sarah 0-1-2 Southerland I am interested in this lone JAMES HALL of Duplin Co. NC. I think at least some of these Halls are from the Isaac Hall-Judith Green family of VA. Betty Pace - [email protected]

1790 NC Robeson county Fayette district pg 48b 1st # free white males 16 year upwards and head of families 2nd # free white males under 16 years 3rd # free white females and head of families 4th # all other free persons See neighbors at http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/nc/robeson/census/1790/1790fay.txt Halls -- they do not live next door to one another always Hall, Enoch......................................2-2-4-0-1 Hall, Instance....................................1-2-3-0-0 Hall, Lewis........................................2-3-2-0-0 Hall, Lewis jr.....................................1-5-3- HALL, Susanah............................. 5 2 I think Lewis Jr. lives next door to Susanah Hall. These are probably part of the Isaac Hall-Judith Green family of VA. Betty Pace -- [email protected]

Tami Someone has given you incorrect information. First of all the Old Settlers did not leave southeast TN until 1809 ish. The first group leaving with Tahlonteeskee (my uncle). There were confirmed groups that followed, 1817 with John Jolly, 1825 with Capt. John Rogers, 1835 with John Ross. The Old Settlers census roll was taken in 1851. The Drennan Census Roll was taken in 1852. It was the first census of the new arrivals in Oklahoma in 1839...aka the New Echota Group. There is only one Hall listed, Martha (GRoup 57) Old Settlers roll All census rolls are available in assorted places....either online or in publications. Joyce Gaston Reece ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tami -Jo Pons" <[email protected]> To: "HALL LINE" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 1:34 AM Subject: [HALL] Old Settlers Rolls >I am hoping some one here as knowledge of a certain group of Rolls. > "It is said " my James Madison Hall`s Father is listed on them. > These Rolls were created 1803-1804 near the White River in Arkansas. > I have been given two names for them- or perhaps it is all one ? > > The Abigiornal---Old Settler`s Rolls > > Now this is where it gets complicated...and a bit hard to believe.. > was told all copies except 1 are in private collections and the > remaining > one BIA has and does not allow public access to it. > > Would appreciate any info and thoughts on this....any one ever run across > this Roll before ? > still find a bit unbelievable... > > > Tam > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.10/908 - Release Date: 7/19/2007 > 6:10 PM > >

I am hoping some one here as knowledge of a certain group of Rolls. "It is said " my James Madison Hall`s Father is listed on them. These Rolls were created 1803-1804 near the White River in Arkansas. I have been given two names for them- or perhaps it is all one ? The Abigiornal---Old Settler`s Rolls Now this is where it gets complicated...and a bit hard to believe.. was told all copies except 1 are in private collections and the remaining one BIA has and does not allow public access to it. Would appreciate any info and thoughts on this....any one ever run across this Roll before ? still find a bit unbelievable... Tam

Is anyone doing any research on the Richard Hall who was a squatter in the area called "Blooming Rose" in present-day Garrett County Maryland? He was later given legal title to his land. In particular, does anyone know if a descendant from this line has ever submitted a sample for Y-DNA analysis? We would like to know more about this family, to be better able to discern if we have a connection them. I have transcribed Richard's will, and will post it on the site if any one is interested. The information noted below is unproven. It is not our work, and it's compiled from several sites on the Internet without documentation. Help, please. Jim Patrick 1 Richard Hall b: Abt. 1710 Charles Co MD d: 1791 Allegany Co MD.. +Sarah Hanson ........ 2 William Hall b: Charles Co MD ........ 2 Christian Hall d: Feb 01 1791 Allegany Co MD ........ 2 Moses Hall b: Abt. 1731 Charles Co MD d: Mar 02 1801 Union Twp Fayette Co PA ............ +Elizabeth (Unk) b: Abt 1748 Wharton Twp Fayette Co PA .............3 John M. Hall b: 1779 Turkeyfoot Twp Bedford Co PA d:1824 Lebanon Twp Meigs Co OH ............. +Sarah Hayhurst b: Jan 28 1782 Harford Co MD d: Oct 05 1868 Meigs Co OH .............3 Squire Hall b: Abt. 1784 PA ........ 2 Richard Hall b: Abt. 1740 Charles Co MD d:Oct 02 1796 Turkeyfoot Somerset Co MD ............ +Mary Dunwoody ........ 2 Henry Hall b: Abt. 1740 Charles Co MD d: K ............ +Sally Hughes ........ 2 John Hall b: May 23 1745 Charles Co MD d: Apr 27 1807 Harrison Co VA ............ +Phoebe Ogden b: Abt 1746 MD d: Jan 13 1842 Harrison Co VA ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Dear Hall List, I need to humbly retract my claim that someone else has posted something on another site in my name. Apparently there is something called an [email protected] When I had originally brought what I regarded as an infringement to someone's attention that person told me that perhaps the post had been part of the automailer process. (Mind you, this still does not explain how my name became associated with this post.) But the site administrator told me that it was impossible for anything to have come to his site through the Rootsweb Automailer process. And I took him at his word. And I became outraged, as you know. Wouldn't you? I have now reinvestigated this and see clearly that there WAS a transmission to this particular site by [email protected] It's in the Hall archives. Again, it does not explain how my name became associated with the post. But it does let me know that it was more likely a computer glitch that will probably never be fully understood, rather than a blatant infraction by someone on this list. This is somewhat a relief. My apologies to have involved you. Kathryn Hall ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

In a message dated 7/20/2007 6:46:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Charotte I didn't mean to start fire storm with my comment. It is ok. It is over with now. Charlotte ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

In a message dated 7/20/2007 8:47:16 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Thank you I for one have enjoyed the discussions. Ann Ann, You are welcome. Charlotte Anne Miller _http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlotteamiller/index.html_ (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlotteamiller/index.html) _http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bellcountykyfamilies _ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bellcountykyfamilies) _http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FamilyandMore_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FamilyandMore) _http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sharing_family_friends_and_more_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sharing_family_friends_and_more) ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

In a message dated 7/19/2007 10:20:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: I have re-thought my position on the discussion of DNA on this list. I withdraw my position on it and I agree with those of you who want it, so it can be discussed here Thank you I for one have enjoyed the discussions. Ann ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

nelhatch wrote: > HATCHER website: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/faq.htm > HATCHER DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hatDNA.htm > HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm > "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood > > To all, > > I have requested a new email list which hopefully will be approved in about > a week. Once approved, I will post a notice to this list. The name requested > is HALL-PLUS-DNA and will focus on both Hall research and DNA issues. > > I seem to have been given no choice in this matter. > > If you have any questions, please contact me privately at [email protected] > > Thank you! > Nel > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Nel, Very good idea. I think that this will be a good move. Jim Hall

Charotte I didn't mean to start fire storm with my comment. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 11:14 PM Subject: [HALL] DNA and the HALL List > Hello everyone, > > I have re-thought my position on the discussion of DNA on this list. I > withdraw my position on it and I agree with those of you who want it, so > it can be > discussed here. I'm sorry for any bad feelings I have caused. I want to > ask > you all to please think before you post things attacking a fellow list > member. > There is to be no flaming here and we need to please treat each other with > respect. > > Thank you, > Charlotte > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL > at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello everyone, I have re-thought my position on the discussion of DNA on this list. I withdraw my position on it and I agree with those of you who want it, so it can be discussed here. I'm sorry for any bad feelings I have caused. I want to ask you all to please think before you post things attacking a fellow list member. There is to be no flaming here and we need to please treat each other with respect. Thank you, Charlotte ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

At 11:08 PM 7/19/2007, you wrote: >Forgiveness is the economy of the heart... >Forgiveness saves the expense of anger, > the cost of hatred, the waste of spirits. > >Hannah More > >May I respectfully say that DNA research is as vital an issue...no it's >MORE vital than historical records. It's as much a part of research as >a pedigree chart these days. I have no male Hall relatives but you never >know when you will find a connection to a different branch that DOES >have a male line. It would greatly hamper the progress of ALL of us to >remove it from allowed subject matter. > >Charlotte, it sounds as tho you are feeling really under fire from >several directions. I don't know of any attacks against you personally >but I'm sorry if you feel some of the "stuff" going on lately is >directed at you. Please, sit back... take a deep breath and rethink >this one. > >.....Dianne Larson Ward I have to agree wholeheartedly. Had it not been for DNA testing, I would not have found the area and direction that I needed to focus on. Decades of research had not produced that one thing that needed to be found....an area to focus on. To take away DNA results and discussion is like sending us back to the dark ages. It has become a part of modern day genealogy research, in the same sense that the internet opened doors so that one could sit at the computer and view marriage or birth and death records from an area that they could not physically go to for one reason or another; to read a history book on-line that had once only been offered by going to the library or getting it through interlibrary loan; it has helped those who are hard against the brick wall by opening up yet another avenue for that brick wall to come down; and for those of us who have a paper trial but wish to verify it. It has led to people being able to find others searching in the same line and share their information. There are many ways that DNA is useful to our genealogy, and the genealogy of others. It is unconceivable that any genealogy discussions on any list can be fruitful and productive without DNA discussion at some point and time. Yes, there are some people who are not interested today....but what about tomorrow? If I remember correctly, the hearty activity on the list regarding DNA testing brought some other people into other discussions just because they had enjoyed the activity on the list and decided that it was time to jump in and talk about their ancestors. Or just to say that they had enjoyed the lively discussions! With restrictions on what genealogy subjects we can discuss we are going to lose, if we have not already, long-time researchers with a whole lot of knowledge. This is a sad day. So much is being lost by this decision; and just like that it is gone. Cheryl Hall

In a message dated 7/19/2007 10:53:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Most of this stuff couldbe handled by direct e-mail. You would think the list admin.would see to it I have taken care of it. Charlotte ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Most of this stuff couldbe handled by direct e-mail. You would think the list admin.would see to it ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jhall" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 8:13 PM Subject: [HALL] Joe > Joe, > Please don't unsubscribe. You have been a great deal of help and a wealth > of > knowledge to me as well as many others on this list. As you know we are > distantly related and I would have never gotten as far as I have if I > didn't > have some one like your self guiding me along. Especially knowing you know > the area's where I need to be looking. > > Roberta hall > kit # 33334 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 7:06 PM > Subject: Re: [HALL] Message from List Manager > > >> Roberta, >> >> You can go to the HALL archives and read all the messages there. I have >> had >> to wade through many HALL DNA messages and I do not think that they >> belong >> on >> this list, because Rootsweb provides surname DNA lists, like I said. >> That is why there is to be no more HALL DNA discussion here. >> >> Thank you, >> Charlotte >> >> >> >> ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new >> AOL >> at >> http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Dianne, I couldn't agree more. It is my opinion that those admins who place a blanket prohibition against *any* discussion of *any* aspect of DNA genealogy are doing their lists (meaning, their subscribers) and themselves a huge disservice. In so doing, they make their lists seem antiquated, fuddy-duddy, so very 20TH CENTURY. It makes no more sense to ban discussion of information obtained via DNA than it would have made ten years ago to ban discussion of information gotten from an online database; or, fifty years ago, to insist that only data obtained from original town records can be used, no information gathered from published compilations can even be evaluated. In my opinion the rules need to make "common sense". If the AUP bans commercial advertising on the lists (and it does), then if people are talking about DNA kit prices or representatives of DNA testing firms are touting their wares, then there is a problem. But the problem isn't DNA, it is advertising. If people tend to discuss the technical details of why DNA testing works the way it does, more than necessary to understand the results (and some of the DNA geeks do that, certainly) then the admin needs to step in. But we would do that if a discussion on technicalities of any kind were to overwhelm one of our lists (e.g. why census indexes programmed in a database are better than indexes presented in HTML tables). One more time, DNA isn't the problem. I admin the Hall Message Board and have also requested another alternative or duplicate Hall mail list to gateway. I predict that sooner or later, those lists that reject all mention of DNA/genetic genealogy will see their traffic go to an alternative or duplicate surname list as they are not limited to mere discussion of DNA projects and results, but rather are all inclusive of all genealogical avenues. People are more sophisticated in their knowledge of genetic genealogy now and the discussion of cheek swabs, etc. is barely existent any more. More and more, there are great results and connections being posted that mention DNA was the avenue for the discovery and further research. Time will tell. Mike -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dianne L. Ward Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:09 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [HALL] DNA on surname list Forgiveness is the economy of the heart... Forgiveness saves the expense of anger, the cost of hatred, the waste of spirits. Hannah More May I respectfully say that DNA research is as vital an issue...no it's MORE vital than historical records. It's as much a part of research as a pedigree chart these days. I have no male Hall relatives but you never know when you will find a connection to a different branch that DOES have a male line. It would greatly hamper the progress of ALL of us to remove it from allowed subject matter. Charlotte, it sounds as tho you are feeling really under fire from several directions. I don't know of any attacks against you personally but I'm sorry if you feel some of the "stuff" going on lately is directed at you. Please, sit back... take a deep breath and rethink this one. .....Dianne Larson Ward ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello everyone, I re-instated Scott Crabtree to the list. However, I am not going to change my mind on the DNA issue. I do not believe that it needs to be discussed here. Anyone else who sends me inflammatory messages personally, I will unsubscribe from the HALL List. I am not putting up with it. Thank you, Charlotte ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Bill, I predict that sooner or later, those lists that reject all mention of DNA/genetic genealogy will see their traffic go to the alternative or duplicate list as they are not limited to mere discussion of DNA projects and results, but rather are all inclusive of all genealogical avenues. People are more sophisticated in their knowledge of genetic genealogy now and the discussion of cheek swabs, etc. is barely existent any more. More and more, there are great results and connections being posted that mention DNA was the avenue for the discovery and further research. Time will tell. Mike -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 9:52 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [HALL] Joe Most of this stuff couldbe handled by direct e-mail. You would think the list admin.would see to it ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jhall" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 8:13 PM Subject: [HALL] Joe > Joe, > Please don't unsubscribe. You have been a great deal of help and a wealth > of > knowledge to me as well as many others on this list. As you know we are > distantly related and I would have never gotten as far as I have if I > didn't > have some one like your self guiding me along. Especially knowing you know > the area's where I need to be looking. > > Roberta hall > kit # 33334 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 7:06 PM > Subject: Re: [HALL] Message from List Manager > > >> Roberta, >> >> You can go to the HALL archives and read all the messages there. I have >> had >> to wade through many HALL DNA messages and I do not think that they >> belong >> on >> this list, because Rootsweb provides surname DNA lists, like I said. >> That is why there is to be no more HALL DNA discussion here. >> >> Thank you, >> Charlotte >> >> >> >> ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new >> AOL >> at >> http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message