Thanks for the Hall/Morton information Roberta, I will definately check there! <<Have you checked southern Indiana, specifically Hanover, Jefferson Co., This town is on the Ohio river with Kentucky a stone's throw away, although many of our Morton's stayed in Jefferson Co., other family members were known to have migrated across into Kentucky.>> Denise ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

The complain I have with the list is too many people put stuff on the list that should be handled by personel e-mail. ----- Original Message ----- From: "roahall" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 8:18 AM Subject: [HALL] My two cents worth. > Like a lot of you I am on a number of lists. I ask you which is better, > a > list with very few post or one > with a lot of post. As for me I'd rather see a lot of information posted > that I can pick and chose what > I am interested in. I can delete all that I am not interested in and > read > or save what interest me. If nothing comes down the list of what use is > the > list. > > I have only two complaints : 1 Change the subject line. If there are > twenty post with the same subject > line and you want to > reread one you cannot find it. > 2 NO PERSONAL ATTACKS. > Keep replies general. If you want to > complain about someone > do so directly to them or to the list manager > directly not the list > as > a whole. > > Thank you for your time, > Roland Hall > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Charlotte, In response to your request copied below; I am a member of the Hall List. I have Halls on my maternal side of the family in Walker County GA along with Hollis & Hendrix lines. I read the Hall List fairly frequently and post occasionally. I am involved with various surname projects and their associated email lists. All of the lists that I frequent discuss all genealogy issues including DNA testing for genealogy purposes in the same list, without restraint. The only restrictions deal with normal etiquette, politeness, and vulgarity, and criticism of others. Criticisms are usually handled strictly by the Admin with members bowing out of criticism of others. Admins can & should discontinue membership to those who fail to follow generally accepted rules for treatment of others. A general guideline for such rules should be made available before cutting off membership to someone. I am convinced that today and into the future one should not try to separate genealogy and DNA testing. They fit so well together and supplement each other. It is inconceivable to me that someone knowledgeable of genealogy thinks the two should be separated. The Y-DNA & MT-DNA testing at issue is designed for one purpose only, which is to supplement genealogy research. I suspect that some experienced traditional genealogy researchers that are not up to speed on the value of DNA testing for genealogy might not realize the important role Y-DNA & MT-DNA can and should play in one's overall genealogy research. One of the best ways to educate genealogy researchers (experienced and new) on DNA testing's proper role in genealogy is to continue its discussion on all genealogy lists. In my view, the question should not be what makes a minority or a majority happy, but rather whether the list purpose is about genealogy (which includes DNA testing for genealogy purposes). Jerry Baker in TN Message: 3 Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 00:23:27 EDT From: [email protected] Subject: [HALL] Question from List Manager To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hello everyone, I want to take a vote on whether we want DNA discussed here. I have been getting mail on both sides, so I think that the only fair thing to do is to ask you to please write to me privately and tell me what you think about it, and whether you want to see it disussed here. After all, this is YOUR list, not mine, and I want to make the majority happy. I will see what the results are and let you know. I will wait till Tuesday evening and then tally up those for and those against. Thank you, Charlotte

DNA discussion is fine. However, I don't really consider what happened over the past ten days to be a discussion about DNA. What happened is a few people, who seem to think this is their list, they are genius genealogists and/or ONLY they are the arbiters of all things Hall, have plagued the list with messages that should have gone private from the very beginning...not to mention the flaming. And it just keeps going on and on! Please let Charlotte run the list and Nel run the DNA project, and if you don't like how they are doing it, discuss it with them privately. They both seem more than willing to listen to all sides. Karen Hall Holmes

Like a lot of you I am on a number of lists. I ask you which is better, a list with very few post or one with a lot of post. As for me I'd rather see a lot of information posted that I can pick and chose what I am interested in. I can delete all that I am not interested in and read or save what interest me. If nothing comes down the list of what use is the list. I have only two complaints : 1 Change the subject line. If there are twenty post with the same subject line and you want to reread one you cannot find it. 2 NO PERSONAL ATTACKS. Keep replies general. If you want to complain about someone do so directly to them or to the list manager directly not the list as a whole. Thank you for your time, Roland Hall

Absolutely DNA should be included. It is now an integral part of what is happening in genealogy. You don't disregard a tool to help research because it is new or some are afraid of it, if it can be helpful. A lot of mistakes are made in genealogy because of too little concrete evidence and here is another way of providing proof. Peter Watts ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Charlotte Yes, all information including DNA should be discussed on this site. This Forum is to share all information. John Hall -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 5.23am Subject: [HALL] Question from List Manager Hello everyone, I want to take a vote on whether we want DNA discussed here. I have been getting mail on both sides, so I think that the only fair thing to do is to ask you to please write to me privately and tell me what you think about it, and whether you want to see it disussed here. After all, this is YOUR list, not mine, and I want to make the majority happy. I will see what the results are and let you know. I will wait till Tuesday evening and then tally up those for and those against. Thank you, Charlotte ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE AOL Email account with 2GB of storage. Plus, share and store photos and experience exclusively recorded live music Sessions from your favourite artists. Find out more at http://info.aol.co.uk/joinnow/?ncid=548.

Folks, in the digest mode you can click on the e-mail address of the person writing a post and your reply goes only to that person...not the entire list. Don't hit the usual "reply" option...just the person's address. Also, Charlotte asked that we reply to her privately...not on the list. Let's not bombard the list with yeas and nays. >Message: 3 >Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 00:23:27 EDT >From: [email protected] >Subject: [HALL] Question from List Manager >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > >Hello everyone, > >I want to take a vote on whether we want DNA discussed here. I have been >getting mail on both sides, so I think that the only fair thing to do is to ask >you to please write to me privately and tell me what you think about it, and >whether you want to see it disussed here. After all, this is YOUR list, not mine, >and I want to make the majority happy. >I will see what the results are and let you know. I will wait till Tuesday >evening and then tally up those for and those against. > >Thank you, >Charlotte > > > > > >

I agree I feel that we should keep it also. That may be the only some of can find our family. Donna [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 12:25 AM Subject: Re: [HALL] Question from List Manager > > Charlotte > Yes, all information including DNA should be discussed on this site. This > Forum is to share all information. > John Hall > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Sent: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 5.23am > Subject: [HALL] Question from List Manager > > > > > > > > > > > Hello everyone, > > I want to take a vote on whether we want DNA discussed here. I have been > getting mail on both sides, so I think that the only fair thing to do is > to ask > you to please write to me privately and tell me what you think about it, > and > whether you want to see it disussed here. After all, this is YOUR list, > not > mine, > and I want to make the majority happy. > I will see what the results are and let you know. I will wait till Tuesday > evening and then tally up those for and those against. > > Thank you, > Charlotte > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL > at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get a FREE AOL Email account with 2GB of storage. Plus, share and store > photos and experience exclusively recorded live music Sessions from your > favourite artists. Find out more at > http://info.aol.co.uk/joinnow/?ncid=548. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hello everyone, I want to take a vote on whether we want DNA discussed here. I have been getting mail on both sides, so I think that the only fair thing to do is to ask you to please write to me privately and tell me what you think about it, and whether you want to see it disussed here. After all, this is YOUR list, not mine, and I want to make the majority happy. I will see what the results are and let you know. I will wait till Tuesday evening and then tally up those for and those against. Thank you, Charlotte ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

HATCHER website: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/faq.htm HATCHER DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hatDNA.htm HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood Charlotte, Please provide your email for us. Replying directly to your msg will just post it to the list. Thanks, Nel

Charlotte, I would like to take this opportunity to acknowledge and thank you for graciously sharing your time and efforts for the administration of the Hall mailing list. Your unending patience and willingness to provide subscriber support is greatly appreciated as is all of the RootsWeb staff. You have done a wonderful job of administering the Hall mail list. By now, you may be feeling just a bit overwhelmed. Remember to take it slow and communicate with subscribers on the mailing list where everyone can learn and be kept informed. I greatly appreciate your change of position regarding DNA discussion. Please, keep up the good work. I would also like to thank all the subscribers who graciously share their time, their resources and their knowledge of the Hall family. You are very dedicated to making the Hall mailing list a useful and pleasant experience. My knowledge of the Hall family wouldn't be what it is without you. Other members may send messages known as flames which are meant to express an opposing view or reprimand someone who has done something that is considered inappropriate by other users. To avoid being flamed, be sure to check your communications for clear content, spelling and punctuation. Avoid topics and discussions that may be controversial in nature. Do not do any name-calling and do not use any negatively charged words. Never assume anything about other subscribers on the mailing list. Here is an example that illustrates why this is important. One person chastised another subscriber because he asked for someone to look up something in a reference book. This person told the other that if he doesn't own that reference book himself, he should learn to go to a library rather than have others do his research for him. The person who had asked the original favor informed the other that he was unable to do this because of physical disabilities. Don't assume that everyone else on a mailing list can do the same things that you are able to do. Don't assume that they have the same understanding or knowledge of any given topic. When all else fails, give the other subscribers the benefit of the doubt until you have all the facts in any given situation. Always keep in mind that you are corresponding with real, live people and not just a faceless computer. Basic rules of common courtesy still apply. Remember to treat people with the same courtesy and respect with which you wish to be treated yourself. Like all technology, the Hall mailing list is not perfect, nor will you be able to do all your genealogical research with the click of a mouse. Nevertheless, Hall mailing list participation will allow you to discover Hall family genealogical information, resources and finding aids. Nel Hatch is an incredible inspiration as she works tirelessly to provide the Hall genealogical community with invaluable DNA research information and tools to show us how we can make DNA a tremendous research instrument. My knowledge of Hall family DNA wouldn't be what it is today without Nel. The explosion of DNA data on the Internet did not begin with a big bang. Rather, like wet kindling, it took a while for the spark to catch and finally hiss and sputter into existence. I'm looking forward to it becoming a roaring fire, blazing across the world leaping artificial boundaries. I would also like to remind you of another Hall research resource. I administer the Hall message board ( http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.hall/mb.ashx?view=boards ). Charlotte has agreed to have the message board gatewayed or mirrored to the mailing list as soon as RootsWeb opens the gateway. This means that the same message posts will appear in both places, so that you may have twice as much exposure for any information or queries that you post. You have two options for the format in which you receive your mailing list messages. You can receive the messages in single or (combined) digest mode. The digest is a group of email messages that is put together by the mailing list software program and sent to you in one long message. If you prefer to limit your e-mail volume, the digest mode would be the preferable method. You may wish to change your subscription. The ability to exchange and share helpful information on a global scale and to explore vast new databases, as well as obscure factoids lurking at the edges of cyberspace is what the Hall mailing list is all about! The Hall mailing list and all of your friendship is treasured! Thank you so much if you read this all the way down to here. I apologize for the length of this message. Please feel free to contact me privately at [email protected] , if you prefer. You may wish to thank Charlotte also. Thanks again Charlotte! Mike -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 6:49 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [HALL] Flaming Hello everyone, I am very disappointed that there is still flaming going on against me. I do not have to explain myself to you. All List Managers are volunteers. We are not paid for being list manager, and I would not want to get paid for it. We do not have to take verbal abuse from list members, and I will not tolerate any more flaming, either against me personally or against any other member. If this does not stop, I will have to put the list on Moderated status. To Nel and everyone else who has written to me supporting me, I thank you very much. I would suggest that if you are not happy with the list, then maybe you should unsubscribe. One or 2 people cannot rule a list, and I will not stand for any more flaming. I had explained why I changed my mind about letting DNA being discussed. I would also suggest that before you hit the send button, please re-read what you have written to make sure that it is not flaming. Now let's get back to researching our HALL'S! Thank you, Charlotte Miller _http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlotteamiller/index.html_ (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlotteamiller/index.html) _http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bellcountykyfamilies _ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bellcountykyfamilies) _http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FamilyandMore_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FamilyandMore) _http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sharing_family_friends_and_more_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sharing_family_friends_and_more) ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello everyone, I am very disappointed that there is still flaming going on against me. I do not have to explain myself to you. All List Managers are volunteers. We are not paid for being list manager, and I would not want to get paid for it. We do not have to take verbal abuse from list members, and I will not tolerate any more flaming, either against me personally or against any other member. If this does not stop, I will have to put the list on Moderated status. To Nel and everyone else who has written to me supporting me, I thank you very much. I would suggest that if you are not happy with the list, then maybe you should unsubscribe. One or 2 people cannot rule a list, and I will not stand for any more flaming. I had explained why I changed my mind about letting DNA being discussed. I would also suggest that before you hit the send button, please re-read what you have written to make sure that it is not flaming. Now let's get back to researching our HALL'S! Thank you, Charlotte Miller _http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlotteamiller/index.html_ (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlotteamiller/index.html) _http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bellcountykyfamilies _ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bellcountykyfamilies) _http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FamilyandMore_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FamilyandMore) _http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sharing_family_friends_and_more_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sharing_family_friends_and_more) ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Jim, In the past I have corresponded with several people who claim Richard Hall of Blooming Rose as their ancestor. Please contact me at [email protected] and I will give you what information I have. Marilyn Schmidt

This has been a very entertaining week for this Hall up in the boonies of Newfoundland. Thank you all very much! Really makes my genes jump for joy! Judy Hall ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 9:45 PM Subject: [HALL] Current condition of the Hall list > This list is completely out of control. People getting booted off and half > an > hour later > being reinstated, at whim. DNA discussion cancelled without discussion (or > context!). DNA reinstated. > People unsubscribing. People resubscribing. People attacking each other. > People > completely ignoring the list administrator's request that no further > discussion would > take place regarding other members, then demanding that she be in the only > exception, > subtley re-instating an attack on another list member ("should push come > to > shove, there is sufficient evidence to easily disprove those very reckless > charges"). Excuse me? Where > is the ENOUGH in this? > > I've been on this list for a number of years. I don't recall it's ever > being > this nutty. > > The I Ching says the best way to fight evil is to make energetic progress > in > the good. > Any takers? > > K Hall > > > ************************************** > Get a sneak peek of the all-new > AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

>I have re-thought my position on the discussion of DNA on this list. I withdraw my position on it and I agree with those of you who want it, so it can be >discussed here. Dear Charlotte, I was not aware until this afternoon that you had rethought your position on DNA discussions. I think this was an important decision and reflective of the kind of leadership this group will best flourish under. Thank you. Kathryn ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

When was your James Madison Hall born? I have a James Madison Hall in my line, but he was born in Maine in 1819. Bonnie ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Uhm, you might want to read a few more posts, from the list's admin, before you make your exit stage left. > No DNA, no point on being on this list as the only chance remaining to be > of > finding my Hall's in "the old country" is through dna testing. Bad > decision, > but bye bye! > > Jeff > > Jeff Hall > > Amherst, New Hampshire, New England, USA > HALL DNA project Family 2 - Kit Number 33260: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm > Deacon RICHARD HALL of Hull(-1670), Haverhill(1670-1673), and > Bradford(1673-1730), Massachusetts project: > http://www.designscience.com/Genealogy/richardhall/ > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

No DNA, no point on being on this list as the only chance remaining to be of finding my Hall's in "the old country" is through dna testing. Bad decision, but bye bye! Jeff Jeff Hall Amherst, New Hampshire, New England, USA HALL DNA project Family 2 - Kit Number 33260: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm Deacon RICHARD HALL of Hull(-1670), Haverhill(1670-1673), and Bradford(1673-1730), Massachusetts project: http://www.designscience.com/Genealogy/richardhall/

HATCHER website: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/faq.htm HATCHER DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hatDNA.htm HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood To one and all........ Time and circumstances have prevented me from writing this until now but there are a few things that I feel must be said about the recent events on this board. First, my sincere thanks to Charlotte for her change of position regarding DNA discussions. I am aware of the occasional problems these postings can cause for some who are not interested as well as the damage they can do to some lists when they spiral out of control. I have always thought our list was quite reasonable in this respect and hope it will continue to be so without causing undue problems. There is no list where every posting will be of interest to all and we have to accept that. So! I will be cancelling my request for a new board. I can't tell you how happy I am about that! Next, I feel it is an absolute necessity that someone speak up for John Lisle after that most vicious attack on him, and I am here to do that. I knew him far earlier and far better than I know most on this board. His character, good name and integrity are known by hundreds who know him and been helped by him over the years. His experience in the geney world is 30+ years. No one's good reputation survives that long by willfully abusing others within the community. Each of us in our own personal world can find one or two people whose opinion of us is less than desirable or outright negative. None of us are immune. But those few negative opinions should be balanced against the positive when forming our opinions. I'm sure there are many on this list who already know John who are nodding in agreement. But I would like to specifically address those who are not that familiar with John and whose only lasting impression of him may be one of suspicion and distrust based on ugly and unchallenged words. There is no need to spell out details but I can say this much - should push come to shove, there is sufficient evidence to easily disprove those very reckless charges should it ever come to that. John is and always has been, in my opinion, honest, open, trustworthy and much more willing to share his experience and knowledge than most of us even have time for. He has been and still is an invaluable member of this list, a man whose character and good name should not be left to lie in the mud. That is all I have to say and now I ask just one thing. Please do NOT respond on the list to this msg. This msg was meant to nail down the last missing plank on this ship and NOT to begin a new flurry of msgs or debate on the issue. If you really feel the need to make a comment, please do so privately to me at [email protected] I do not want to see Charlotte having to put this list back on moderation :-) Thanks for hearing me out. Nel