Okay, I usually don't post much to the list because I don't feel I have that much to offer. My Halls were in MA, and ME mostly, so I don't seem to connect with anyone here yet. I do want to say, though, that I think the DNA discussion should be allowed, as well as any other discussion relating to Hall family history. If I don't want to read the posts about DNA, I will delete them - or any other Hall topic I don't want to read about. It's really not that hard to hit the delete button, even hitting it a lot isn't difficult. I don't usually delete a message until I have read it enough to make sure that it doesn't relate to me in any way. Often times, I don't hit the delete button at all, because I find that most posts are interesting enought to read anyway. I learned a long time ago, while researching the Leighton side of my family that what doesn't pertain to me today just might pertain to me tomorrow when I find some missing link! I say, let's let any and all discussions that have anything at all to do with Halls. (And I'm not even a Hall - it's my husbands mother who was a Hall. Thanks. Bonnie Leighton ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

HATCHER website: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/faq.htm HATCHER DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hatDNA.htm HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood Let me be the first to say - Hallelujah!! Thanks a bunch, Charlotte! Nel

Mary, look at it this way... I have no living male Halls either. I CAN still benefit tremendously from the DNA project. I can document that I am descended from Moses Hall 1710, Nansemond Co. VA through his son Isaac. Now while MY line down from Isaacs grandson John has no males John (and his uncles!) had several brothers who probably DO have living sons out there. If THEY can document their relationship to Moses 1710 we share DNA from old Moses' ancestors. I follow the DNA study closely in hope that someday one of those other lines coming down from Moses 1710 will be tested and we can connect to compare notes and hopefully document all of these relationships and push our lines back even further. So, we women can't have our own Hall DNA tested but we have just as much a stake in the studies as the men do. .......dianne > >

You asked: PS: If we ban DNA discussions from the list, would this message not be allowed? I'd like a chance to have one say, then I'll butt out. Having stuck with this list and deleted most of the messages for a very long time, I've made the following observation. It is mainly the males of this list who are involved with DNA. Remember.females are excluded! So, when I notice all the upheaval over DNA, it's usually male/female split. Yes, a few females favor DNA stuff, but it is boring to those of us who have no living male relatives who are willing to be tested. Is it that hard to figure out? Guys can DNA all day long, but most females are stuck with the conventional genealogical tools. WHY our DNA should be so different, I have NO clue! But, it DOES make the female Hall feel more than discriminated against. Thanks for letting me say this. Mary Hall Marshall (just as much a Hall as the rest of you)

While I'm here...I haven't cast out a net for quite a while. I'm searching for information on Theodore (Thed) Hall born June 1863 in Ohio, lived in Vernon and Crawford counties in southwest Wisconsin. Had 2 children. Died 1926 in Wauzeka, Crawford Co, WI He's somehow related to my Halls in Ohio and Vernon Co, WI. Apparently his father was a sibling of my great grandfather but I can't find any records proving who it was. I long to connect him in my records!! Anyone with info?? Also..Moses Hall who married Margaret Duke and fathered Moses Hall (Quaker, born 1710/1711 Nansemond Co., VA or Northampton Co., N.C. married Elizabeth Baker, had several children, and died-1761) Anyone have any further info on Moses the father?? Rumor has it he arrived in VA by stowing away on a ship. Nothing further is known or rumored. I have a lot about generations from Moses 2 down and would love to share. Thank you!!.......dianne Forgiveness is the economy of the heart... Forgiveness saves the expense of anger, the cost of hatred, the waste of spirits. Hannah More

Unfortunately everyone has their own definition of what "chatting" is. I assume you mean totally off-topic posts...correct? Actually, compared to many lists there is very little off topic discussion on this one...but I do agree about things like "How is Aunt Sue?" or "My dog has arthritis." etc. btw, my poor 14 yr old cocker mix DOES have arthritis...I'm not making light of it. lol......dianne -- Forgiveness is the economy of the heart... Forgiveness saves the expense of anger, the cost of hatred, the waste of spirits. Hannah More >Message: 8 >Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 17:32:57 -0400 >From: "Bill" <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [HALL] Question from List Manager >To: <[email protected]> >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > >I am for DNA discussion. but not the chatting back and forth on the list. >----- Original Message ----- >From: <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 11:23 AM >Subject: Re: [HALL] Question from List Manager > > > >

Charlotte I am a new subscriber don't know what the squabble is about but I really appreciate anyone that can take the time involved to help everyone try to track down their ancestors. SO THANK YOU. Anyone I am looking for information on Thomas Hall born about 1809 in North Carolina later moving to Carroll Co. Arkansas. He married Lourenia Holman and had several children. He remained in Arkansas. I believe he had a brother William. I have some information after his move to Arkansas but almost nothing about him or his wife before then. Thomas is my gggreat grandfather. Carol [email protected]

Although DNA will not help me as I have no know male Hall family I see no reason that the discussion should continue. All I do is go in and delete what I do not think will help me. Every once in awhile I will look to see if there may be a ink to my Hall through NC or IL that I may contact the person who contributed the posting on the list to see if they have my fmily in theirs. Bette My genealogy home page http://www.geocities.com/bezzsears --------------------------------- Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids.

I am for DNA discussion. but not the chatting back and forth on the list. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 11:23 AM Subject: Re: [HALL] Question from List Manager >I am for DNA discussion. > Yvonne > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL > at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Charlotte I would be very pleased to see an end to DNA discussion. Very, very boring ! Thanks. Francis Payne Auckland, New Zealand ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 9:23 PM Subject: [HALL] Question from List Manager > Hello everyone, > > I want to take a vote on whether we want DNA discussed here. I have been > getting mail on both sides, so I think that the only fair thing to do is > to ask > you to please write to me privately and tell me what you think about it, > and > whether you want to see it disussed here. After all, this is YOUR list, > not mine, > and I want to make the majority happy. > I will see what the results are and let you know. I will wait till Tuesday > evening and then tally up those for and those against. > > Thank you, > Charlotte > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL > at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

I also will vote in the affirmative for keeping DNA on the list. Joe Hall Halls of Rehoboth In a message dated 7/23/2007 4:07:27 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: I agree I feel that we should keep it also. That may be the only some of can find our family. Donna [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 12:25 AM Subject: Re: [HALL] Question from List Manager > > Charlotte > Yes, all information including DNA should be discussed on this site. This > Forum is to share all information. > John Hall > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Sent: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 5.23am > Subject: [HALL] Question from List Manager > > > > > > > > > > > Hello everyone, > > I want to take a vote on whether we want DNA discussed here. I have been > getting mail on both sides, so I think that the only fair thing to do is > to ask > you to please write to me privately and tell me what you think about it, > and > whether you want to see it disussed here. After all, this is YOUR list, > not > mine, > and I want to make the majority happy. > I will see what the results are and let you know. I will wait till Tuesday > evening and then tally up those for and those against. > > Thank you, > Charlotte > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL > at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get a FREE AOL Email account with 2GB of storage. Plus, share and store > photos and experience exclusively recorded live music Sessions from your > favourite artists. Find out more at > http://info.aol.co.uk/joinnow/?ncid=548. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

That is what I thought --- but nothing ventured nothing gained. kinta -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 1:28 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [HALL] William Hall & Israel Friend Kinta: The timeframe is perfect, but everything else is out of whack. Good Luck Jim ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Kinta: The timeframe is perfect, but everything else is out of whack. Good Luck Jim ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Jeff: Thanks for the note and the reminders. No, I haven't yet gone through those old land records. When I've been in the region, I've had other fish to fry. I thought I might take the easy way out, temporarily. Regards, Jim ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Hello Jim, I have no idea if this is the same William HALL as my William HALL -- (son of William HALL , b. 1723, d 11 Apr 1768 and Susannah TREZEVANT, b. 1727, d. 23 May 1790) -- was born 16 Apr 1757, d 1 May 1814; Captain in Rev Navy. He married Ann Wilson of Pennsylvania, b. 6 Feb 1763, d. 12 Nov. 1850. They lived in Charleston, SC. Would love to find something on the line prior to William and Susannah -- Kinta NC Outer Banks -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 11:23 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [HALL] William Hall & Israel Friend Years ago, someone wrote to me about a William Hall who owned property on the Potomac River, quite near the properties of Israel Friend. For reasons that I can explain for anyone interested, this is a very, very important clue for those of us researching Rev Vet William Hall (Abt 1758 ?- 1844 IN), and involves the family of John Valentine House, an associate of Israel Friend. I've never found concrete information about such a William Hall. Does anyone on the list have any information about this William Hall who lived near Israel Friend in the mid-1700s? Regards, Jim Patrick ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

TO: Jim Patrick- Have you have looked at the deeds for the properties that Friend and Hall owned in the town you are talking about? How about other, adjacent deeds that may not represent the land of those two, but which may reference those men in the boundary descriptions? Knowing your previous posts, this is probably preaching to the choir, but I thought I'd bring it up... Best, Jeff Jeff Hall Amherst, New Hampshire, New England, USA HALL DNA project Family 2 - Kit Number 33260: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm Deacon RICHARD HALL of Hull(-1670), Haverhill(1670-1673), and Bradford(1673-1730), Massachusetts project: http://www.designscience.com/Genealogy/richardhall/ RE: Years ago, someone wrote to me about a William Hall who owned property on the Potomac River, quite near the properties of Israel Friend. For reasons that I can explain for anyone interested, this is a very, very important clue for those of us researching Rev Vet William Hall (Abt 1758 ?- 1844 IN), and involves the family of John Valentine House, an associate of Israel Friend. I've never found concrete information about such a William Hall. Does anyone on the list have any information about this William Hall who lived near Israel Friend in the mid-1700s? Regards, Jim Patrick

Hi, In the early 1770s the family of Edward Hall, Jr. (1727-1807) of Uxbridge, Massachusetts, removed to Croydon in Sullivan county, NH founding a large family in that area. Is anyone on this list a part of this family or familiar with anyone in this family? Joseph Hall and I are trying to accumulate evidence to identify the correct history of this family as a recent genealogy by a well-respected genealogist has drastically altered the accepted pedigree of this family. The issue is with the identification of Edward's Hall grandfather. Edward was the son of Ens. Edward Hall and Hannah Fisher who were married in Wrentham, MA, in 1722. There are no known birth records for Ens. Edward Hall, nor are there probate records that identify him as a child of any particular family. In David B Hall's, Halls of New England book, the Ens. Edward Hall was identified as a son of Benjamin Hall a son of Edward Hall of Rehoboth, Massachusetts. (Edward-3, Benjamin-2, Edward-1). This has been the only understanding until recently. With the lack of a birth record, we can assume that Ens. Edward was placed with Benjamin in part because it was the Benjamin Hall family that was living in Wrentham at the time, and Ens. Edward married there in 1722 and lived there afterwards. However, the late Dean Crawford Smith, FASG, published in 1999 his own genealogy in the four part "KEMPTON: The Ancestry of Eva Belle Kempton". In part 4, he has a chapter on the Hall family. For that book, he extensively reviewed record in Taunton, Uxbridge, Wrentham, and elsewhere to try to prove Benjamin as the father of Edward. Problems that he had were that Edward's birth record was not in the Wrentham records that were otherwise known to be very complete. Using land records and family naming patterns, he concluded that the Edward was a son of John Hall (John-3, Samuel-2, George-1) of Taunton where all of John's children were born and where most of the records have been lost. Smith's editor, Melinde Lutz Sanborn (editor of NGS Quarterly, NH Gen Soc Journal) has agreed that the proof he has is not rock solid - there were no smoking gun records, like there were for proving the two Samuels of Taunton issue. For now, we will be maintaining the traditional analysis in our database as we believe that to be most likely. However, it is well known that the Halls of New England book has many major errors, especially in the sorting out of the Halls of Bristol county, MA. Consequently, we are looking for additional evidence to prove the pedigree. One route that is open to us is DNA testing. We have at least one DNA test of a descendant of George of Taunton and one of Edward of Rehoboth, and they have distinctly different DNA signatures. If we can find a male Hall descendant of Edward Hall, Jr., who will get tested, it should match one of the two reference samples. Of course, it would be preferable to have multiple reference samples for each of the two immigrant lines to be sure that the samples we have accurately reflect the DNA signatures of the original immigrants. We welcome suggestions. john Nashua, NH PS: If we ban DNA discussions from the list, would this message not be allowed?

I am for DNA discussion. Yvonne ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Years ago, someone wrote to me about a William Hall who owned property on the Potomac River, quite near the properties of Israel Friend. For reasons that I can explain for anyone interested, this is a very, very important clue for those of us researching Rev Vet William Hall (Abt 1758 ?- 1844 IN), and involves the family of John Valentine House, an associate of Israel Friend. I've never found concrete information about such a William Hall. Does anyone on the list have any information about this William Hall who lived near Israel Friend in the mid-1700s? Regards, Jim Patrick ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Someone just wrote to me personally, asking about Leonard Hall. There is a very extensive book about this family -- available for microfilm rental through LDS libraries. I remember also that there was a good copy at the Library of Virginia in Richmond. Jim Patrick Tampa FL ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour