Hello, I have recently been introduced to the process of genealogical use of DNA testing. This offers some interesting possibilities. If we were to get enough volunteers, we could establish a DNA data base of sorts that could help answer some questions. Such as, did our Hadley family originate in Shropshire England, or perhaps Somerset or elsewhere? Also, is there a genetic link between the Quaker Hadleys and the Ipswich George Hadley line? For those who are stumped as to which Hadley line they may be a member of, this might offer a definitive answer. I'm only at the beginning of this prospective project, and would like some feedback. Would any of you be interested in or be willing to participate? If you know anything about this procedure, would you please share this with me and others? To make this effective and worthwhile, a model needs to be established to yield any meaningful results. Unfortunately, the only ones who can actually be tested for the name Hadley, are men who have the surname Hadley. So you ladies would have to convince or coerce a husband, son or brother, etc. I have been told that if enough people participate, the cost per individual test is about $100. I'll start the ball rolling with some ideas. Testing would need to be done for as many Hadley branches in the US as possible. Then we would need to enlist the participation of several Hadley family branches in England as well. We should then see a correlation genetically which could well determine which English Hadley branch we all are most likely to have descended from. This could include every Hadley family, not just the George or Simon lines. A data base could be built so that any Hadley who was tested in the future would have the ability to know which line they came from and therefore concentrate genealogical research in that area. This is not a perfect science at this point in time, but I think it could be really meaningful for our family. There are several families who are well into this data building process. The more who participate, the more meaningful the results. A cousin named Elinor Purdy has sent me some information about this pursuit, including this web site that gives a good background information http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~allpoms/genetics.html I have also written to a company that does the test work. Below are my email and the reply. What do you think? Is this worth the time and money? Thank you John Hadley Hi John DNA has serious limitations, in that it can't identify which brother a son is descended from...on the other hand it can tell one HADLEY line from one that actually originated from a different family and just poached the HADLEY name. If you tested a few Hadleys' here in the states (from the unrelated branches), and a few in the towns in England that you think the US hadleys came from you would be able to determine if your Hadleys are actually descended from a common Hadley ancestor...as long as we didn't get messed up with an extra marital event or a unannounced adoption. email any time. Bennett Greenspan --- John Hadley <agchem5@gte.net> wrote: > Hello, > > I was sent your web site by a member of our > family genealogy society. I would like to give you > some background and ask how we might use your > services. > Our oldest proven ancestor, Simon Hadley, died > in Ireland in 1711. We know he came from England, > but cannot prove the link. I have very strong > evidence that the family likely came from Shropshire > England. There are many Hadleys still living in > these little towns in Shropshire today, but I have > not found any who know their ancestry back this far. > So how would this work? > Would we need to have some Hadleys in England > and some of us here in the US submit samples for > testing? There are other Hadley families in England > as well as the Shropshire line. Would these tests > show that we are all related back to some ancient > ancestor? If so, it really doesn't tell us much. I > won't go into all of the boring details, but I am > wondering how this testing procedure could be > specific enough to come to some positive > conclusions. I do not understand the limitations of > this procedure. Can you offer me some help here? > Thank you > > John Hadley > president, Hadley Society

John, I most certainly would be willing to participate in a DNA study if one is ever begun. I am in that group which has not been able to make a connection to either Simon or George Hadley. And I further believe that such a study would show that Simon and George are of the same lineage. Sam John Hadley wrote: >Hello, > > I have recently been introduced to the process of genealogical use of DNA testing. This offers some interesting possibilities. If we were to get enough volunteers, we could establish a DNA data base of sorts that could help answer some questions. Such as, did our Hadley family originate in Shropshire England, or perhaps Somerset or elsewhere? Also, is there a genetic link between the Quaker Hadleys and the Ipswich George Hadley line? For those who are stumped as to which Hadley line they may be a member of, this might offer a definitive answer. > I'm only at the beginning of this prospective project, and would like some feedback. Would any of you be interested in or be willing to participate? If you know anything about this procedure, would you please share this with me and others? To make this effective and worthwhile, a model needs to be established to yield any meaningful results. > Unfortunately, the only ones who can actually be tested for the name Hadley, are men who have the surname Hadley. So you ladies would have to convince or coerce a husband, son or brother, etc. I have been told that if enough people participate, the cost per individual test is about $100. > I'll start the ball rolling with some ideas. Testing would need to be done for as many Hadley branches in the US as possible. Then we would need to enlist the participation of several Hadley family branches in England as well. We should then see a correlation genetically which could well determine which English Hadley branch we all are most likely to have descended from. This could include every Hadley family, not just the George or Simon lines. A data base could be built so that any Hadley who was tested in the future would have the ability to know which line they came from and therefore concentrate genealogical research in that area. > This is not a perfect science at this point in time, but I think it could be really meaningful for our family. There are several families who are well into this data building process. The more who participate, the more meaningful the results. A cousin named Elinor Purdy has sent me some information about this pursuit, including this web site that gives a good background information http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~allpoms/genetics.html > > I have also written to a company that does the test work. Below are my email and the reply. What do you think? Is this worth the time and money? Thank you > >John Hadley > >Hi John > >DNA has serious limitations, in that it can't identify >which brother a son is descended from...on the other >hand it can tell one HADLEY line from one that >actually originated from a different family and just >poached the HADLEY name. > >If you tested a few Hadleys' here in the states (from >the unrelated branches), and a few in the towns in >England that you think the US hadleys came from you >would be able to determine if your Hadleys are >actually descended from a common Hadley ancestor...as >long as we didn't get messed up with an extra marital >event or a unannounced adoption. > >email any time. > >Bennett Greenspan > >--- John Hadley <agchem5@gte.net> wrote: > >>Hello, >> >> I was sent your web site by a member of our >>family genealogy society. I would like to give you >>some background and ask how we might use your >>services. >> Our oldest proven ancestor, Simon Hadley, died >>in Ireland in 1711. We know he came from England, >>but cannot prove the link. I have very strong >>evidence that the family likely came from Shropshire >>England. There are many Hadleys still living in >>these little towns in Shropshire today, but I have >>not found any who know their ancestry back this far. >>So how would this work? >> Would we need to have some Hadleys in England >>and some of us here in the US submit samples for >>testing? There are other Hadley families in England >>as well as the Shropshire line. Would these tests >>show that we are all related back to some ancient >>ancestor? If so, it really doesn't tell us much. I >>won't go into all of the boring details, but I am >>wondering how this testing procedure could be >>specific enough to come to some positive >>conclusions. I do not understand the limitations of >>this procedure. 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