>Subject: GWIN-D Digest V02 #2 >Received: 3/11/02 11:35 PM >From: [email protected] >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] > >Content-Type: text/plain > >GWIN-D Digest Volume 02 : Issue 2 > >Today's Topics: > #1 Re: [KINCAID] Kinkead/Lockridge/Gw [[email protected]] > >Administrivia: >To unsubscribe from GWIN-D, send a message to > > [email protected] > >that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > >and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software >requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > >______________________________ >X-Message: #1 >Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 16:05:41 EST >From: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Kinkead/Lockridge/Gwinn >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > >In a message dated 3/9/2002 4:31:26 PM Central Standard Time, >[email protected] writes: > > >> >> The story of James Lockridge marrying Isabella Kincaid >> and Robert Gwinn marrying Jean Kincaid is ofter repeated. >> What is the source or origin of these two men marrying >> Kincaids? Nothing I have on hand gives evidence. >> Where did this come from? >> >> Best wishes! >> >> >> Peter A. Kincaid >> Hampton, NB, Canada >> > > >Hello Peter-- > >There is no evidence as far as I can tell. In fact, I have also never seen >any documentary evidence whatsoever for the existence of a Jean Kinkead, >daughter of David Kinkead. This is why I always say that Jean Kinkead is >the >reputed wife of Robert Gwin, Sr. > >The written (but undocumented) references that I know of are: > >The History of the Gwin Family by Jesse B. Gwin (1961). This book has an >appendix with genealogical tables including one for the descendants of >Robert >Gwin and Jean Kincaid. The cited references are History of Summers County >West Virginia by J. A. Miller and The History of Highland County, Virginia >by >Oren F. Morton. However, these last references do not contain any mention >of >a Jean Kincaid and the Summers County book does not even mention Robert Gwin. > >Early Western Augusta Pioneers by George W. Cleek, (1957). On page 95, it >states "Robert Gwin married Jean (or Jane) Kinkead, daughter of David >Kincaid >and Winnifred ___ of Albemarle County, Virginia." It is not clear what the >source is here, but this section does reference the research of Dr. Herbert >Clarke Kincaid. > >The articles of Dr. George W. Diehl. Another undocumented source for the >marriage of Robert Gwin and Jean Kincaid is the articles published by Dr. >George West Diehl in the News-Gazette, Lexington, Virginia. These articles >were compiled in Rockbridge County, Virginia Notebook by A. Maxim Coppage, >III (1982). The James G. Leyburn Library, Washington and Lee University, >has >a George West Diehl genealogical collection. I have not seen this >collection >of material, but it is possible that it could contain source material for >Dr. >Diehl's articles. If anyone has an opportunity to examine this collection, >please let us know. > >It is certainly true that there is a link between the Kinkeads and Gwins as >neighbors, in court records, and in land transactions. However, I have >often >wondered if Jane Kinkead was a creation of erroneous assumptions. Here is >one possible way that a Jane (Jean) Kinkead might have been created: > >On July 16, 1745, David Kinkead was a witness to the deed in which James >Patton and John Lewis sold 544 acres to Robert Gwin. Also, in The Chronicles >of the Scotch-Irish Settlement in Virginia by Lyman Chalkley there is an >abstract of a commission for the private examination of Jane, wife of Robert >Gwinn, Jr. (Vol. I, p. 132). Is it possible that someone mistook Jane for >the name of the wife of Robert Gwin, Sr. and then assumed that David Kinkead >was her father based on deed? > >What might have been overlooked here is that David Kinkead was also the >witness for several other land transactions that day. On July 16, 1745 he >signed as witness for the transfer of land on the Calfpasture from Patton >and >Lewis to Robert Bratton, John Dunlap, Loftis Pulliam, John Willson, John >Kinkead, John Miller, and finally Robert Gay (on July 17, 1745). To me this >indicates that David Kinkead was there because of a business relationship >with Patton and Lewis. > >Your thoughts? > >Best wishes! Ron Gwinn > Ron, Peter, and all: I was just reading through some old digests and found this very interesting discussion. Its interest to me is because ofanother Lochridge (note this spelling) and Gwin connection--this time in middle Alabama (Dallas/Bibb/Shelby Counties). My great-grandaunt, Mary Ann Elizabeth Gwin (b. 23 April 1843; d. 23 Jan 1882) was married on 25 Jan 1866 in Dallas Co., AL, to Robert Guy Lochridge (b. 2 Feb 1838; d. 15 June 1926). His ancestors had allegedly left Virginia and moved to Missouri; her ancestors had left Virginia and moved into western North Carolina (which became east Tennessee), then moved into Alabama. For some reason, Robert left Missouri as a young man and moved to Alabama where he met and married MAE. Was this entirely coincidence, or had these families some ties that had remained alive? I have a little more on this Alabama line at this page: http://www.zianet.com/jmcdgwin/LochridgeRbtGuy.htm Best to you, In Jesus, John (Complete contact information follows in signature.) ========================================================== John M. Gwin e.mail: [email protected] Snail Mail Address: 1845 Anderson Drive, Las Cruces, NM 88001 USA Telephone: (505) 522-2171 Netscape/AOL Instant Messenger Screen Name: Zianib GENEALOGY Homepage: http://www.zianet.com/jmcdgwin/genealogyhomepage.htm Nib Collection: http://www.zianet.com/jmcdgwin How to know God personally (No kidding!): www.gospelcom.net/navs/navinfo/resources/bridge/bridge.htm ==========================================================