Audrey, Bit of bad luck I'm afraid. I cannot find this individual in Jesse Blaine Gwin's book. I did find some Samuel's, variouis spellings, but they were either too late, i.e. born after your Samuel's death, or from a different area of the country (Virginia, Tennessee, etc.). I can find no information on this family. I checked all spellings (Guinn, Gwin, Gwinn, Gwyn, Gwynn, etc.) and could not find this family. I tried using the names of his children and could not find them either. Sure wish I could have helped more, but there just isn't anything on this family in the book. I wish I could have helped more, I know how hard it is when you hit a brick wall, trying to get through it. If you come up with anything else, I will look again. Paul -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 10:37 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: The Book of the Gwinns/Gwynns Hi Paul, BY any chance does your book have anything in it about Samuel Guinn/Gwin(n) who died in Surry Co, NC before 1785 (will abstract below). I am hoping to find out who his parents were, where they came from, and hopefully, which one of his daughters married Joseph England. I know that his daughter Margaret married Daniel England, but know really nothing about any of his other children. Surry Co, NC will abstract book : 2:60a Will of Samuel Guinn, 7 JUL 1784. Wife Deborah. Son: John Guin, 5 sh sterl and no more. Sons Samuel, Nathaniel, Foster and William get land after their mother's death. 9 children: Samuel, Nathaniel, Andrew, William, Rebekah, Suannah, Jean, Margaret, and Isabella--will divide the moveable estate. Exrs: wife and Valentine Reece who is to bind sone William to some good trade. Wit:Daniel Bills, Samuel Guinn, Jr , Jabez Jarvis. Prvd by Jabez Jarvis and rec. Feb Ct. 1785. {NOTE: Surry Count Minutes of Cour of P & Q's show the Valentine Reese qualified 16 FEB 1785, inventory returned 14 NOV 1787. On the 1782 tax list, Samuel Guinn is shown with 200 A on Forbish Creek. The 1785 tax list of Capt. Wright shows Deborah Guinn with 200 A, no polls. The 1786 tax lists shows her with same listing and Samuel Gwin (sic) with 1 wp. The 1786 State census, Capt. Krouse's distric, show Deborah Gqin (sic) with 1 wm 21-60, 1 wm-21-60+, 2 wf. 2:96a Inv. of Saml. Gwin decd incl 200A, Bible given to son Samuel and one to son Nathaniel. Wit: Valentine (X) Reese. Rec. May ct. 1787. Thanks so much for any help. Audrey In a message dated 4/15/2005 5:01:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:03:30 -0500 From: "Paul Gwynn" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Subject: RE: The Book of the Gwinns/Gwynns ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429

If you have time to look, I would appreciate you looking for an Abraham (Abe/Abram) Gwyn/Guin/Guinn who married Nancy before 1838. He is in the 1850 Watauga county, NC census but I can not prove anything before this time. I would like to prove he is the same Abe Gwin who is in Johnson County, Tn in the 1830's and 40's. In 1850 he is listed as 49 yrs old and Nancy is 44. Their children are William age 12 ,Lawson age 9, Mahala age 6, and David age 3. Mahala is my gggrandmother on my mother's side. My stories of them sound familiar to some I have read on your postings. Nancy was also rumored to be part or maybe full blooded Indian. Being from NC she was probably Cherokee but could have been Creek. Her last name could have been Bird/Byrd or Chandler. I have heard both. Abe supposedly "bought" her for a quarter??? There is an Abe Gwin from Tennessee who was a soldier during the removal of the Cherokee 1836-39. There was also a William Guinn from Tennessee. This info. came from the book Volunteer Soldiers of the Cherokee wars 1836-1839. All of these dates coincide with the removal. Coincidence??? Their first child(William) was born about 1838, he later fought for the Union and died in the Civil War. I have no idea what happened to Lawson, but I was recently told that David is buried in Roan Mt., Tennessee.? Mahala married Elijah Smith from Carter County, Tennessee and they lived in what is now Avery county until they died. Lige died in 1921 and Mahala died in 1923. Does any of this hook up with any info. in your book? Any help is greatly appreciated and any help I can give you is yours for the asking. I have Gwyn records for Carter and Johnson counties in Tennessee and Watauga, Mitchell, and Avery counties in NC. You may not realize but these counties in NC were divided several times and what started out as Watauga for my family was then divded to make Mitchell which was then divided again in 1911 to make it Avery, so even though they never moved they lived in 3 different counties in their lifetime. My grandfather's family which lived 2 miles away only lived in 2 different counties as his part stayed in Watauga when Mitchell was divided. It makes for a lot of confusion as census takers didn't always keep things straight and 1 year they were listed in 2 different county censuses. Also, early on the upper part of east Tennessee was part of NC before the state lines were changed and it is still hard today to know where Tenn. stops and NC begins as it is still very mountainous and the roads are sometimes hard to follow. Many areas are still very isolated from the rest of the state. Sorry this is so long. Thanks for any help. Becky [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Gwynn" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 10:27 AM Subject: RE: The Book of the Gwinns/Gwynns > Audrey, > > Bit of bad luck I'm afraid. I cannot find this individual in Jesse Blaine > Gwin's book. I did find some Samuel's, variouis spellings, but they were > either too late, i.e. born after your Samuel's death, or from a different > area of the country (Virginia, Tennessee, etc.). I can find no > information > on this family. I checked all spellings (Guinn, Gwin, Gwinn, Gwyn, Gwynn, > etc.) and could not find this family. I tried using the names of his > children and could not find them either. Sure wish I could have helped > more, but there just isn't anything on this family in the book. > > I wish I could have helped more, I know how hard it is when you hit a > brick > wall, trying to get through it. If you come up with anything else, I will > look again. > > Paul > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 10:37 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: The Book of the Gwinns/Gwynns > > > Hi Paul, > > BY any chance does your book have anything in it about Samuel > Guinn/Gwin(n) > who died in Surry Co, NC before 1785 (will abstract below). > I am hoping to find out who his parents were, where they came from, and > hopefully, which one of his daughters married Joseph England. I know that > his > daughter Margaret married Daniel England, but know really nothing about > any > of his > other children. > > Surry Co, NC will abstract book : > > 2:60a Will of Samuel Guinn, 7 JUL 1784. Wife Deborah. Son: John Guin, 5 > sh > sterl and no more. Sons Samuel, Nathaniel, Foster and William get land > after > their mother's death. 9 children: Samuel, Nathaniel, Andrew, William, > Rebekah, Suannah, Jean, Margaret, and Isabella--will divide the moveable > estate. > Exrs: wife and Valentine Reece who is to bind sone William to some good > trade. > Wit:Daniel Bills, Samuel Guinn, Jr , Jabez Jarvis. Prvd by Jabez Jarvis > and > rec. Feb Ct. 1785. {NOTE: Surry Count Minutes of Cour of P & Q's show the > Valentine Reese qualified 16 FEB 1785, inventory returned 14 NOV 1787. > > On the 1782 tax list, Samuel Guinn is shown with 200 A on Forbish Creek. > The > 1785 tax list of Capt. Wright shows Deborah Guinn with 200 A, no polls. > The > 1786 tax lists shows her with same listing and Samuel Gwin (sic) with 1 > wp. > The 1786 State census, Capt. Krouse's distric, show Deborah Gqin (sic) > with > 1 wm > 21-60, 1 wm-21-60+, 2 wf. > > 2:96a Inv. of Saml. Gwin decd incl 200A, Bible given to son Samuel and one > to > son Nathaniel. Wit: Valentine (X) Reese. Rec. May ct. 1787. > > Thanks so much for any help. > > Audrey > > > In a message dated 4/15/2005 5:01:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:03:30 -0500 > From: "Paul Gwynn" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Subject: RE: The Book of the Gwinns/Gwynns > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta > rgetid=5429 > > > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >