>X-Message: #2 >Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 01:33:54 -0500 >From: Catherine H Lippert <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: More on Lockridge/Gwin >Content-Type: text/plain >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >OK, I can provide at least some information on the Lochridge connections >for this couple. I'd be interested in knowing more about Mary Elizabeth >Gwin's ancestry, since I also have Gwin ancestry (which is why I'm on >this list, too). > >Briefly (more details where I have them if you're interested): Robert Guy >Lochridge, son of John & Mahala (Brane) Lochridge; John, son of John & >Martha Lockridge (note surname spelling change); John, son of William & >Agnes (Gwin) Lockridge. Next step , back to the original discussion of of >possible Gwin/Kincaid match. > >So, since Robert Guy was the descendant of a Gwin/Lockridge marriage, >it's possible the families knew of the connection. Do you know Mary >Elizabeth Gwin's ancestry? I know some AL Lochridge descendants are on >the Lokrig-L list, if you'd be interested in posting a query there. > >Cathy Lippert >Moderator, Lokrig-L Yes, I do: http://www.zianet.com/jmcdgwin/genealogyhomepage.htm Basically it is this: 1.--Richard Gwin, allegedly of Jamestown area of VA, allegedly m. Sarah Chesley 2.--Isham Gwin, allegedly their son, allegedly m. Ms. Cleveland ca. or before 1790 3.--John Gwin, allegedly their son, definitely m. Jane Walker in Blount Co., TN, in 1812 4.--William Gwin, their son, b. 1820 in Cahaba, AL, m. RoseAnn Carlisle Jones Wilson in Cahaba in 1842 5.--Their daughter, Mary Ann Elizabeth Gwin, m. Robert Guy Lochridge of Mexico, MO, (in Cahaba?) ca. 1860-66 In Jesus, John (Complete contact information follows in signature.) ========================================================== John M. Gwin e.mail: [email protected] Snail Mail Address: 1845 Anderson Drive, Las Cruces, NM 88001 USA Telephone: (505) 522-2171 Netscape/AOL Instant Messenger Screen Name: Zianib GENEALOGY Homepage: http://www.zianet.com/jmcdgwin/genealogyhomepage.htm Nib Collection: http://www.zianet.com/jmcdgwin How to know God personally (No kidding!): www.gospelcom.net/navs/navinfo/resources/bridge/bridge.htm ==========================================================

For the age of Nell Guinn....at that time in the mid 1700s..a child over ten could be tried as an adult. They also worked the same hours...But did not get the same pay. I do not know when Children were given protective rights, but I am pretty sure it wasn't in the mid 1700s. Of course it may be different in the United States. (I'm from Canada). Also, at that time, it was still a British Colony, as the American Revolution didn't happen for another twenty years or so...So I think British Law would have applied there as well as Canada. Just a thought. I've been following the email with great interest...I don't know where my Gwinn connection is to these Guins...Mine were from Saline Co., Missouri, but it is great to see such enthusiasm! Sue..from Canada. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 6:32 PM Subject: Speculation on the Wife of Robert Gwin of the Calfpasture > This is mere speculation, but I thought that I would throw this out on the > Gwin, Kincaid and Lockridge lists to see your reaction. As many of you know, > G. W. Cleek in his Early Western Augusta Pioneers states that Robert Gwin of > the Calfpasture was married to Jean Kincaid, daughter of David Kincaid (or > Kinkead) of Albemarle County. The problem is no one has been able to prove > the existence of this Jean. Jean is also supposed to be a sister of an > Isabella Kincaid who married James Lockridge. But James Lockridge is a much > older man and the timelines just do not work out. In addition, David > Kincaid's will does not mention either a Jean or an Isabella. So ... we have > all been looking for a Jean without much success. > > Mr. Cleek also states that Robert had two daughters, Agnes Gwinn (who married > William Lockridge) and Nell Gwin > > This evening, I was taking another look at Holly Wanless Cochran's excellent > Gwin website (http://www.riverduck.com/genealogy/gwin/index.html) when > another thought occured to me. (Holly I hope you don't mind me quoting from > your website.) > > Holly raises the possibility that Nell Gwin is a sister of Robert Gwin, Sr. > To quote: > > "[Cleek p.96] says she was a dau. of Robert. However, the dates don't make > sense for this - she's more of an age to be his sister. > > Katrin Queen, 10th December, 1746, examined before justices charged with > stealing a silver plate belonging to David Kinked and Winefer Kinked, his > wife. Witnesses summoned to testify to character of Nell Guin. To be > summoned: Margaret Gay, Patrick McDonald and Mary, his wife, and Elizabeth > Thompson. Bond by John Tillery, of Albemarle County, bricklayer. David > Kinked, of said county, joyner, and William Wright, of Augusta, farmer. John > Tillery. [Chalkley vol 1, p.431] > > If Robert Gwin did marry Jean Kincaid, and Nell is his daughter, then David & > Winnefred Kinkead may be Nell's grandparents. But if Nell is involved in a > trial in 1746, doesn't that means she's an adult, i.e. born before 1725 or > so? Then she could not be Robert's daughter after all. Note Katrin/Catherine > Queen has an extensive history of petty crime in Chalkley and was finally > ordered to leave the county. I still wonder if Queen is a corruption of > Guinn..." > > I don't know why this never occured to me before. Holly is correct, Nell is > the age to be his sister. But ... she is also the age to be his wife! Could > Nell Gwin be the wife of Robert Gwin of the Calfpasture????? > > Best wishes! Ron Gwinn > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

OK, I can provide at least some information on the Lochridge connections for this couple. I'd be interested in knowing more about Mary Elizabeth Gwin's ancestry, since I also have Gwin ancestry (which is why I'm on this list, too). Briefly (more details where I have them if you're interested): Robert Guy Lochridge, son of John & Mahala (Brane) Lochridge; John, son of John & Martha Lockridge (note surname spelling change); John, son of William & Agnes (Gwin) Lockridge. Next step , back to the original discussion of of possible Gwin/Kincaid match. So, since Robert Guy was the descendant of a Gwin/Lockridge marriage, it's possible the families knew of the connection. Do you know Mary Elizabeth Gwin's ancestry? I know some AL Lochridge descendants are on the Lokrig-L list, if you'd be interested in posting a query there. Cathy Lippert Moderator, Lokrig-L ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

>Subject: GWIN-D Digest V02 #2 >Received: 3/11/02 11:35 PM >From: [email protected] >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] > >Content-Type: text/plain > >GWIN-D Digest Volume 02 : Issue 2 > >Today's Topics: > #1 Re: [KINCAID] Kinkead/Lockridge/Gw [[email protected]] > >Administrivia: >To unsubscribe from GWIN-D, send a message to > > [email protected] > >that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > >and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software >requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > >______________________________ >X-Message: #1 >Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 16:05:41 EST >From: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Kinkead/Lockridge/Gwinn >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > >In a message dated 3/9/2002 4:31:26 PM Central Standard Time, >[email protected] writes: > > >> >> The story of James Lockridge marrying Isabella Kincaid >> and Robert Gwinn marrying Jean Kincaid is ofter repeated. >> What is the source or origin of these two men marrying >> Kincaids? Nothing I have on hand gives evidence. >> Where did this come from? >> >> Best wishes! >> >> >> Peter A. Kincaid >> Hampton, NB, Canada >> > > >Hello Peter-- > >There is no evidence as far as I can tell. In fact, I have also never seen >any documentary evidence whatsoever for the existence of a Jean Kinkead, >daughter of David Kinkead. This is why I always say that Jean Kinkead is >the >reputed wife of Robert Gwin, Sr. > >The written (but undocumented) references that I know of are: > >The History of the Gwin Family by Jesse B. Gwin (1961). This book has an >appendix with genealogical tables including one for the descendants of >Robert >Gwin and Jean Kincaid. The cited references are History of Summers County >West Virginia by J. A. Miller and The History of Highland County, Virginia >by >Oren F. Morton. However, these last references do not contain any mention >of >a Jean Kincaid and the Summers County book does not even mention Robert Gwin. > >Early Western Augusta Pioneers by George W. Cleek, (1957). On page 95, it >states "Robert Gwin married Jean (or Jane) Kinkead, daughter of David >Kincaid >and Winnifred ___ of Albemarle County, Virginia." It is not clear what the >source is here, but this section does reference the research of Dr. Herbert >Clarke Kincaid. > >The articles of Dr. George W. Diehl. Another undocumented source for the >marriage of Robert Gwin and Jean Kincaid is the articles published by Dr. >George West Diehl in the News-Gazette, Lexington, Virginia. These articles >were compiled in Rockbridge County, Virginia Notebook by A. Maxim Coppage, >III (1982). The James G. Leyburn Library, Washington and Lee University, >has >a George West Diehl genealogical collection. I have not seen this >collection >of material, but it is possible that it could contain source material for >Dr. >Diehl's articles. If anyone has an opportunity to examine this collection, >please let us know. > >It is certainly true that there is a link between the Kinkeads and Gwins as >neighbors, in court records, and in land transactions. However, I have >often >wondered if Jane Kinkead was a creation of erroneous assumptions. Here is >one possible way that a Jane (Jean) Kinkead might have been created: > >On July 16, 1745, David Kinkead was a witness to the deed in which James >Patton and John Lewis sold 544 acres to Robert Gwin. Also, in The Chronicles >of the Scotch-Irish Settlement in Virginia by Lyman Chalkley there is an >abstract of a commission for the private examination of Jane, wife of Robert >Gwinn, Jr. (Vol. I, p. 132). Is it possible that someone mistook Jane for >the name of the wife of Robert Gwin, Sr. and then assumed that David Kinkead >was her father based on deed? > >What might have been overlooked here is that David Kinkead was also the >witness for several other land transactions that day. On July 16, 1745 he >signed as witness for the transfer of land on the Calfpasture from Patton >and >Lewis to Robert Bratton, John Dunlap, Loftis Pulliam, John Willson, John >Kinkead, John Miller, and finally Robert Gay (on July 17, 1745). To me this >indicates that David Kinkead was there because of a business relationship >with Patton and Lewis. > >Your thoughts? > >Best wishes! Ron Gwinn > Ron, Peter, and all: I was just reading through some old digests and found this very interesting discussion. Its interest to me is because ofanother Lochridge (note this spelling) and Gwin connection--this time in middle Alabama (Dallas/Bibb/Shelby Counties). My great-grandaunt, Mary Ann Elizabeth Gwin (b. 23 April 1843; d. 23 Jan 1882) was married on 25 Jan 1866 in Dallas Co., AL, to Robert Guy Lochridge (b. 2 Feb 1838; d. 15 June 1926). His ancestors had allegedly left Virginia and moved to Missouri; her ancestors had left Virginia and moved into western North Carolina (which became east Tennessee), then moved into Alabama. For some reason, Robert left Missouri as a young man and moved to Alabama where he met and married MAE. Was this entirely coincidence, or had these families some ties that had remained alive? I have a little more on this Alabama line at this page: http://www.zianet.com/jmcdgwin/LochridgeRbtGuy.htm Best to you, In Jesus, John (Complete contact information follows in signature.) ========================================================== John M. Gwin e.mail: [email protected] Snail Mail Address: 1845 Anderson Drive, Las Cruces, NM 88001 USA Telephone: (505) 522-2171 Netscape/AOL Instant Messenger Screen Name: Zianib GENEALOGY Homepage: http://www.zianet.com/jmcdgwin/genealogyhomepage.htm Nib Collection: http://www.zianet.com/jmcdgwin How to know God personally (No kidding!): www.gospelcom.net/navs/navinfo/resources/bridge/bridge.htm ==========================================================

Thank you. Susan

I am suppose to be getting some info on the daughters, I have a feeling they stayed in Georgia. There are a lot Guinn/Gwin that moved to IL in the early-mid 1800's from VA, WV, and TN. Hope you find her.

Hi: I was wondering if your Elizabeth, Nancy's sister could be the great grandmother I am searching for. I only know that her name was Elisabeth J. Gwinn (not sure of the spelling either. Found the middle initial on property records). She married a Harvey Little and lived in Indiana and then moved to Viriginia City, NV. Had two children, a daughter Ida and a son, my grandfather, Arthur Leroy. Probably not but just thought I would give it a try. This search has been the proverbial brick wall. Thanks for your time. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 4:41 AM Subject: Gwin/Guinn > Hi, still looking for my family lines on the Guinn/Gwin. We can only go back > to Andrew Guinn born 1807-1811 per census records. New family info I have > received from another line from one of his other sons that he was Andrew J. > "Sam" Guinn born in Black Mountain, Buncombe Co. NC. Every census Andrew > told the census taker he was born in NC, in reality this may mean he was born > in Washington Co. NC but became TN. Andrew married into the Ricketts/Allison > families of Burke Co. GA. Andrew moved with these families to Union/Fannin > GA in the 1840's. 1840, he is Buncombe with wife and child. 1850 census > Union, GA. 1860 Fannin, GA. 1870 Union, GA. > > In 1850 there is an older female (Elizabeth) born around 1789 living with > them. The census taker did not change names and I know it is not his wife's > mother. Because her mother and father are already on that census. Andrew > 1st son is Samuel R. Guinn, 2nd William M, 3rd son Andrew, 4th son George > Allen, 1st daughter, Nancy, 2nd daughter Elizabeth. These names stay with the > family in naming future children. > > William died during the civil war fighting for the South. Samuel R was > wounded at Gettysburg. Sent home on leave, was elected tax assessor for > Fannin Co. GA, never returned to service, listed as deserter but received > full pension in Alabama till he died. > > Samuel R. Guinn married Centhia Davis in Fannin Co GA, unknown. They moved > with their children to Bartow Co. GA in 1880. By 1890 they have moved back > to the mountains of DeKalb AL. Samuel and Centhia are buried on Lookout > Mountain, AL. Part of the kids including Gordon Andrew then moved to > Callahan Co. TX around 1900. Gordon Andrew is my direct line. It is said > that they moved to Alabama, to be near other relatives. > > Andrew's youngest son George Allen marries and moves family to Cobb Co. AL, > where Rebecca (Andrew's wife) lives to be 95 and is buried there. Her family > came to North Carolina via Maryland, Pennsylvania,Virginia. > > My Gwin line spells their last name GWIN, family history so we will know that > we are related to this line. George Allen keeps the GUINN spelling. > > Also to make a long story short, yes I married a Kincaid, there is no direct > connection to the Kincaid's of VA. This line came from York SC, before the > Revoluntary War but did mix with the VA Kincaids in Burke Co. NC before going > on to Gilmer/Union Co. GA. in the 1830's They intermarried into the > Patterson, Black, Chastain families. > > It does appear that if you find the Ricketts, Allison, Kincaid, Chastain, > Medaris, Burgin families, my Guinn/Gwin are with them. > > funny story on myAnother Gwin line, older relatives say we are "Swiss". > Hope to hear back from you soon. Pam Kincaid > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi, still looking for my family lines on the Guinn/Gwin. We can only go back to Andrew Guinn born 1807-1811 per census records. New family info I have received from another line from one of his other sons that he was Andrew J. "Sam" Guinn born in Black Mountain, Buncombe Co. NC. Every census Andrew told the census taker he was born in NC, in reality this may mean he was born in Washington Co. NC but became TN. Andrew married into the Ricketts/Allison families of Burke Co. GA. Andrew moved with these families to Union/Fannin GA in the 1840's. 1840, he is Buncombe with wife and child. 1850 census Union, GA. 1860 Fannin, GA. 1870 Union, GA. In 1850 there is an older female (Elizabeth) born around 1789 living with them. The census taker did not change names and I know it is not his wife's mother. Because her mother and father are already on that census. Andrew 1st son is Samuel R. Guinn, 2nd William M, 3rd son Andrew, 4th son George Allen, 1st daughter, Nancy, 2nd daughter Elizabeth. These names stay with the family in naming future children. William died during the civil war fighting for the South. Samuel R was wounded at Gettysburg. Sent home on leave, was elected tax assessor for Fannin Co. GA, never returned to service, listed as deserter but received full pension in Alabama till he died. Samuel R. Guinn married Centhia Davis in Fannin Co GA, unknown. They moved with their children to Bartow Co. GA in 1880. By 1890 they have moved back to the mountains of DeKalb AL. Samuel and Centhia are buried on Lookout Mountain, AL. Part of the kids including Gordon Andrew then moved to Callahan Co. TX around 1900. Gordon Andrew is my direct line. It is said that they moved to Alabama, to be near other relatives. Andrew's youngest son George Allen marries and moves family to Cobb Co. AL, where Rebecca (Andrew's wife) lives to be 95 and is buried there. Her family came to North Carolina via Maryland, Pennsylvania,Virginia. My Gwin line spells their last name GWIN, family history so we will know that we are related to this line. George Allen keeps the GUINN spelling. Also to make a long story short, yes I married a Kincaid, there is no direct connection to the Kincaid's of VA. This line came from York SC, before the Revoluntary War but did mix with the VA Kincaids in Burke Co. NC before going on to Gilmer/Union Co. GA. in the 1830's They intermarried into the Patterson, Black, Chastain families. It does appear that if you find the Ricketts, Allison, Kincaid, Chastain, Medaris, Burgin families, my Guinn/Gwin are with them. funny story on myAnother Gwin line, older relatives say we are "Swiss". Hope to hear back from you soon. Pam Kincaid

Susan-- I am sending you a scanned copy of the 1744 map of the Calfpasture settlement in a separate message. It is a little difficult to read as it is a scan of a photocopy from microfilm-- but I think you will find it helpful. (If anyone else would like a copy, please send me an e-mail.) The original color map is in the Draper Collection of the Wisconsin Historical Society. The lot numbers on the 1744 map show are: # 1--Alex. Dunlap, # 2--William Jamison, # 3--Thomas Gilliam, # 4--Robart Cocket (sic), # 5--David Davis, # 6--Thomas Weems, # 7--Henry Gay, #- 8--Francis Donely, # 9--Robart Gay, #10--Sam. Hodge, #11--John Miller, #12--no name, #13--Robert Braton, #14--James Lockridge, #15--John Graham #16--Robert Gwin, #17--John Preston, #18--William Warwick, #19-- James Carolile (sic), #20--Jacob Cleman (sic), #21--John Campbell, #22--James Carter Best wishes! Ron Gwinn

Re "was Robert Sr's wife even named Jane/Jean, let alone Kincaid?" : There is (per the deed index) an Augusta co land deed from Robert & Jane Gwin to James Fulton on 15 June 1784, but I haven't seen the deed. This could be Robert Sr or his son Robert (wife appears to be Mary Jane Lockridge, referred to elsewhere as Jane). It would help if we had some idea of when Robert Jr. moved to Woodford co, Kentucky, so we'd know if he had left Augusta by 1784. In 1767, Robert Guinn is on the list of supernumeraries in Augusta County tax records. [Chalkley vol II, p.421] Does anybody know what this means? My dictionary shows one possibility as "not enumerated among the regular components of a group and especially of a military organization". Lastly, has anybody seen any documents showing Robert Sr alive after May 1785 when his son Joseph bought land from him? --Holly

In a message dated 3/9/2002 4:31:26 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > > The story of James Lockridge marrying Isabella Kincaid > and Robert Gwinn marrying Jean Kincaid is ofter repeated. > What is the source or origin of these two men marrying > Kincaids? Nothing I have on hand gives evidence. > Where did this come from? > > Best wishes! > > > Peter A. Kincaid > Hampton, NB, Canada > Hello Peter-- There is no evidence as far as I can tell. In fact, I have also never seen any documentary evidence whatsoever for the existence of a Jean Kinkead, daughter of David Kinkead. This is why I always say that Jean Kinkead is the reputed wife of Robert Gwin, Sr. The written (but undocumented) references that I know of are: The History of the Gwin Family by Jesse B. Gwin (1961). This book has an appendix with genealogical tables including one for the descendants of Robert Gwin and Jean Kincaid. The cited references are History of Summers County West Virginia by J. A. Miller and The History of Highland County, Virginia by Oren F. Morton. However, these last references do not contain any mention of a Jean Kincaid and the Summers County book does not even mention Robert Gwin. Early Western Augusta Pioneers by George W. Cleek, (1957). On page 95, it states "Robert Gwin married Jean (or Jane) Kinkead, daughter of David Kincaid and Winnifred ___ of Albemarle County, Virginia." It is not clear what the source is here, but this section does reference the research of Dr. Herbert Clarke Kincaid. The articles of Dr. George W. Diehl. Another undocumented source for the marriage of Robert Gwin and Jean Kincaid is the articles published by Dr. George West Diehl in the News-Gazette, Lexington, Virginia. These articles were compiled in Rockbridge County, Virginia Notebook by A. Maxim Coppage, III (1982). The James G. Leyburn Library, Washington and Lee University, has a George West Diehl genealogical collection. I have not seen this collection of material, but it is possible that it could contain source material for Dr. Diehl's articles. If anyone has an opportunity to examine this collection, please let us know. It is certainly true that there is a link between the Kinkeads and Gwins as neighbors, in court records, and in land transactions. However, I have often wondered if Jane Kinkead was a creation of erroneous assumptions. Here is one possible way that a Jane (Jean) Kinkead might have been created: On July 16, 1745, David Kinkead was a witness to the deed in which James Patton and John Lewis sold 544 acres to Robert Gwin. Also, in The Chronicles of the Scotch-Irish Settlement in Virginia by Lyman Chalkley there is an abstract of a commission for the private examination of Jane, wife of Robert Gwinn, Jr. (Vol. I, p. 132). Is it possible that someone mistook Jane for the name of the wife of Robert Gwin, Sr. and then assumed that David Kinkead was her father based on deed? What might have been overlooked here is that David Kinkead was also the witness for several other land transactions that day. On July 16, 1745 he signed as witness for the transfer of land on the Calfpasture from Patton and Lewis to Robert Bratton, John Dunlap, Loftis Pulliam, John Willson, John Kinkead, John Miller, and finally Robert Gay (on July 17, 1745). To me this indicates that David Kinkead was there because of a business relationship with Patton and Lewis. Your thoughts? Best wishes! Ron Gwinn

In Kansas in 1880 I found Lucy J Guinn 55 born in VA with two sons Samuel H 23 born Indiana and John R 16 born Indiana. She is listed next to James Clark Gwinn from Greenbrier county, West Virginia (he returned years later to Greenbrier). In 1900 her son Samuel lists his father as being from Virginia as well. Can anyone tell me where Samuel D Gwinn born 1818 and died in 1873 is buried or where he died. I am wondering if these are his wife and kids. I lost Samuel after his marriage to Lucy Burdette. Where were they living in Indiana, I can't find them in the census records. I even checked the 1870 Kansas. Beckie

Hi All! I was just going through some of the documentation that Beckie sent out well over a year ago concerning a Gwinn Stickler connection and became confused, so here goes- see if anyone can help!! The following is what I had copied (to look at later and I finally have...) "Seeking the full identity of her first husband.....She was married to ____ Daniels and divorced when she married Lloyd Gwinn. Any children of this marriage? She is the daughter of Andrew Stickler and Margaret Gwinn so if she had kids by previous marriage we would like to know it." Lloyd Gwinn is the son of Andrew GWINN and Jennie MILLER. I have STICKLER's on my other side of the family and while looking through my info on that family it occurred to me that I do not have a Martha STICKLER as the daughter of Andrew and Margaret GWINN STICKLER but instead as the daughter of Andrew's parents, Cornelius and Ruth DEQUASIE STICKLER. The census info that I have for Andrew and Martha and later Lanie (his 2nd wife) do not include a Martha. Could this be a mistake?? Any help or direction will be appreciated- thanks. Dan Gwinn

In answer to Sharon, who would like to know more about the Gwin name: There is a book, I think they have a copy at the Salt Lake LDS library (same people as www.familysearch.com) that is called: History of the Gwin Family (Gwin, Gwinn, Gwyn, Gwynn, Gwynne, Guin, Guinn, Wynn, Wynne) by Jesse Blaine Gwin. It was published in 1961. Gives the address for Jesse Blaine Gwin as 725 Orchard Street, Fairfax, Virginia. He claims the Gwin's came from Wales. Peggy Guinn Bowen

Hello All, I am new to the list so I thought I would dive right in. I am related to John Gwin (died c 1830) of what is now of Altoona PA. He arrived in this country during the Rev. War, lived in Chester and Franklin County for a time and the moved to Huntingdon County Pa. He had 7 children: Lewis (1787), Thomas (c1780-1790), Alexander (1791), Dougal (1804), John (1800) and two girls yet to be identified. I do have sketchy evidence that he served in the Revolutionary War I believe he came from Scotland and his sister (Margaret) married my gggggrandfather (Dougal McCartney 1756-1822). Dougal was pressed into the Royal Navy and then deserted to join the colonists, perhaps John did the same. I am looking for any possible connections, as well as information about the Gwin name. Any help would be appreciated. Cheers, Sharon

Hello all, Can anyone help this person? She is not on the mailing list, so write her directly. Thanks, Mike Gwinn Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 18:26:47 -0800 (PST) From: jessica gwinn-bowman <[email protected]> Subject: Gwinn geneology Hi! My name is Jessica Gwinn. My father is John Charles Gwinn. My family is from Philadelphia. My grandfather was David Marshall Gwinn, my grandmother Elizabeth Bechtold Gwinn. Before Philadelphia, I believe my grandfather's family lived in Bronxville, NY. My great-grandfather, Ralph Waldo Gwinn, was a congressman (and an attorney) in NY. Any relation? Very curious. Thanks! Jessica Gwinn-Bowman __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com

My Gwinns came from Virginia. My first Gwinn ...Bartlett was born in Goochland Co., Virginia 1725...He married Catherine Sombrey. I think there may be a connection. but much further back than either you or I have researched. The name Gwinn would appear to be Welsh. Longistically, how far is Pennsylvania from Virginia? Sue----- Original Message ----- From: Joe Russell <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:12 AM Subject: PA Gwins > Hello All, > I am new to the list so I thought I would dive right in. I am related to John Gwin (died c 1830) of what is now of Altoona PA. He arrived in this country during the Rev. War, lived in Chester and Franklin County for a time and the moved to Huntingdon County Pa. He had 7 children: Lewis (1787), Thomas (c1780-1790), Alexander (1791), Dougal (1804), John (1800) and two girls yet to be identified. I do have sketchy evidence that he served in the Revolutionary War > > I believe he came from Scotland and his sister (Margaret) married my gggggrandfather (Dougal McCartney 1756-1822). Dougal was pressed into the Royal Navy and then deserted to join the colonists, perhaps John did the same. > > I am looking for any possible connections, as well as information about the Gwin name. Any help would be appreciated. > > Cheers, Sharon > > > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 >

Gloria: Sorry I have no record of An Andrew born to John & Mary Ammon Gwin. I will keep you in mind if I find An Andrew in that time period Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 8:41 PM Subject: Re: JOHN GWIN/GWINN/GUINN, etc. > Richard, I have an Andrew Gwinn who was born in 1797. His birthplace in > unknown to me but his wife, Rachel Harshbarger, has grandparents who were > born in Lancaster Co., PA. Their names were Christian Harshbarger and > Barbara Ammen. The Ammens came to America from Switzerland, I believe. One > of Andrew's sons was named John Quincy Gwinn who was born in 1827. Two other > of their sons were named after presidents--George Washington Gwinn and Thomas > Jefferson Gwinn. George Washington Gwinn was my father's great-grandfather > and he was named after him. His name was Rutherford Washington Gillette. > > Andrew Gwinn has been a "brick wall" for me for a looong time!! I'm > wondering if he could be a son of your John Gwinn. The birthdate of your > John Gwinn is right to be my Andrew's father. Do you know if John had a son > named Andrew? There seems to be several links: PA, the surname Ammen, the > dates, and the name John. It would be wonderful to finally find the ancestry > of my Andrew Gwinn who is my gg-grandfather. I have a lot of information on > his descendants. Andrew and Rachel lived in Cabell Co., WV and are both > buried there. They had 13 children. I descend through their son George > Washington Gwinn and his wife Marietta Ball. I descend through their > daughter Elizabeth Amelia Gwinn and her husband James William Nelson. I > descend through their daughter Willie Mae Nelson and her husband Rutherford > Reynolds Gillette. > > I hope to hear from you, > > Gloria J. Gardner > > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > >

Richard, I have an Andrew Gwinn who was born in 1797. His birthplace in unknown to me but his wife, Rachel Harshbarger, has grandparents who were born in Lancaster Co., PA. Their names were Christian Harshbarger and Barbara Ammen. The Ammens came to America from Switzerland, I believe. One of Andrew's sons was named John Quincy Gwinn who was born in 1827. Two other of their sons were named after presidents--George Washington Gwinn and Thomas Jefferson Gwinn. George Washington Gwinn was my father's great-grandfather and he was named after him. His name was Rutherford Washington Gillette. Andrew Gwinn has been a "brick wall" for me for a looong time!! I'm wondering if he could be a son of your John Gwinn. The birthdate of your John Gwinn is right to be my Andrew's father. Do you know if John had a son named Andrew? There seems to be several links: PA, the surname Ammen, the dates, and the name John. It would be wonderful to finally find the ancestry of my Andrew Gwinn who is my gg-grandfather. I have a lot of information on his descendants. Andrew and Rachel lived in Cabell Co., WV and are both buried there. They had 13 children. I descend through their son George Washington Gwinn and his wife Marietta Ball. I descend through their daughter Elizabeth Amelia Gwinn and her husband James William Nelson. I descend through their daughter Willie Mae Nelson and her husband Rutherford Reynolds Gillette. I hope to hear from you, Gloria J. Gardner