This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/IBh.2ACIB/1039 Message Board Post: Grandpa Walter Guthrie always said his dad, John, came from Guthrie, OK. Walter's mom died in childbirth with her 3rd?? child. Walter's parents employed a governess and black maid. After Walter's mom died John, Walter, Tom and the baby came to Arkansas. The baby died and is buried in Pea Ridge. Walter's father married the governess but unknown whether they married before or after move to Arkansas. John's second wife's last name was Elkins. Walter was on his own from age 9 because the stepmother did not want him or Tom. The last name oon Walter and his wife Violet Hope Boyd's marriage license is spelled Gutherie. John and his second wife had: Clyde, Bill, Pearl (married name Miner), Lilly (married name Duncan), Rosie (married name Hight). Walter's brother Tom was 2 years older. He always seplled his last name Gutherie. Tom and his frist wife's children were Eunice, Ivy, Otis (died in California). Tom and his second wife Mary had: Mary (who had a daughter Ursula by! a previous marriage), Bonnie (married name Bohannan--thought the family came from Kentucky--had two sons Tom and Jim, Tom deceased). That's what I know except that he lived at Buckeye for years and planted every peach seed he got his hands on and raised chickens that were easy to catch. And, he loved cornbread and buttermilk and I can still see the milk that would get caught on his hugh mustache. Anyone that could help would be an angel. I've looked forever and this is all I know. He didn't even know his real birthdate and made one up--July 4, 1875. A census (1920) indicated his date of birth 1878. Violet Hope died 1945 or so. Help. Lee Guthrie Maui, HI