This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: GUTHRIE Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/IBh.2ACIB/743.1.1 Message Board Post: Caroline you are absolutely correct in saying that, Stephen Guthrie that married Betsy Sullivan in 1807 and Cassandra Sullivan in 1826 is NOT the father of Abner Guthrie b. abt 1790. He was in fact Abner’s brother. And he died in 1859. Cart. Co. Court Records: Sarah Yeomans an orphan girl bound to Stephen Guthrie Deed Bk. - BB - pg 375 16th Feb. 1857 "A WILL" Recorded 28th April 1859 STEPHEN GUTHRIE for love I have for my loving wife CASSA GUTHRIE and children. First I give to my wife CASSA one bed stead and furniture, one boefat, and all my crockery and kitchen furniture that belongs to the house, also one big wheel and cards. I give to my son ELZA GUTHRIE my canoe and one half of a big marsh net. I give to my youngest daughter EASTER GUTHRIE my dwelling house and crib where I now live. I also give to my daughter EASTER GUTHRIE, after the death of my wife CASSA one bed stead and furniture. I give to my grand daughter MARY GUTHRIE, one bed and pillow. Their father was Stephen Guthrie b. about 1764. son of Samuel Guthrie. 1798 Stephen was listed as a juryman at Cart. Co. Court. Deed Bk T- pg 91 - Carteret County 13th July 1822 proves William to be son of Stephen Guthrie. and Stephen Guthrie the son of Samuel. WILLIAM GUTHRIE to Cromwell Handcock, Jr., for sixteen dollars and twelve and a half cents, ten and three quarters acres on the West side of the road opposite Jarrett's Bay. Being part of the 97 acres to SAMUEL GUTHRIE by COLONEL JOSEPH FULFORD IN 1774 which was deeded as a gift from SAMUEL GUTHRIE to his son STEPHEN GUTHRIE, father of aforesaid WILLIAM GUTHRIE. I also agree with you about Abner being dead by 1850 and his wife Esther was deceased by 1860. The following deed shows that both Abner and wife Esther were deceased by 1860 and proves names of Abner’s brothers. Carteret County Deed BK DD pg 605, dated Feb 22, 1860 ABNER P. GUTHRIE, JOSEPH R. GUTHRIE, WILLIAM H. GUTHRIE to James Johnston, all our right and title in land on North Side of Straits, E. side of Davis Creek, which fell to us by the death of our mother ESTHER GUTHRIE. It can be very confusing since the same names were used in almost every generation. The dates and time periods are very important if determining the generations. You referred to a will for Samuel Guthrie. I have not found a will for Samuel Guthrie, where is it located.