Tom: I don't know if we're the same Guthrie line,but check this out. My great grandmother was Amanda Jane Guthrie(1859-1902) born and died in Pike Co.Illinois.Her mother was Elizabeth A. Rowley(1836-1905) also Pike Co. Illinois. Here's my point.Those Rowleys,way up the line,have a surname of LLEWELYN.Sounds like yours,but much different spelling.