Researcher Dianne Blakley AMSOFRANTIC4@cox.net Oldest proven ancestor -- John Guthrie ( aka - Jack - born abt. 1840 in Indiana, died before 1910? Brown Co., TX- can't locate either him or his wife in any census after 1880 Brown Co., TX) parents of John Guthrie listed as born in IN Married Mary E. Turnbow or Turnbaugh (born abt. 1845 in IL) before 1859, father listed as born KY, mother listed as born MO Children: Alfred Bolden ( b. Dec. 1859 IL, d. Oct. 09, 1937 Comanche Co., TX) Jacob M. ( b. Jun 11, 1860 IL, d. Apr 24, 1942, Brown Co., TX) William John (b. abt. 1864 IL) Clara C. ( b. Nov. 24, 1866 KS, d. Mar. 29, 1959, Brown Co., TX) Samuel ( b. abt. 1869 KS, d. bef. 1880) Ida Mae ( b. Sept. 1871 KS, d. abt. 1907, Muldoon, Fayette Co., TX) Olen E. ( b. abt 1876 KS) Don't know who the parents of John Guthrie were at this time. He was my gr-gr-grandfather.