This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/IBh.2ACIB/1286.1 Message Board Post: Kathy- This is not my line but I checked a couple census on Ancestry.com for you-- 1850 and 1860 Ahio Hartman and wife Nancy are in Pendleton Co. VA (now WV). By 1880 they had moved to Barton Co. MO. In 1850 Ahio and Nancy Hartman are living next door to Moritz Hartman which I'm guessing is the father of Ahio. On a website I found where a William Guthrie married Sarah Hartman and she was d/o Moritz Hartman. That makes me think that that this William may be a brother to your Nancy Guthrie.......You might email Cindylguthrie@hotmail.com --she had a website that mentioned the marriage of Wm Guthrie and Sarah Hartman. Your Nancy may be a d/o Page or Paige Guthrie. Like I said this is not my line but maybe this Cindy has a clue for you. Good Luck, Pat Guthrie Gilbert