Group, Again, I'm having problem's with bounces. This is just a test. Ignore it. Larry Larry Guthrie yrralguthrie@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

In a message dated 8/8/2005 7:09:53 PM Central Standard Time, yrralguthrie@yahoo.com writes: Calvert, You wrote "...in 1778, at age 28, he accepted 400 acres near Cedar Creek..." Better check the date and story as the Revolutionary War wasn't over until 1783 and I don't think anyone was giving out bounty land in 1778. Larry Larry Guthrie yrralguthrie@yahoo.com Well now, Larry, I didn't write that. Thanks, though. you're correct to point out the possible error. I copied it directly from a website listing early Louisville, KY settlers. The website credits the Louisville Courier-Journal.. which is not to say that the L C-L was correctly quoted only that there is a trail for anyone else pursuing this. I don't know that he didn't accept this land in payment or bounty. I'm not about to discount the info just because it doesn't square with what i think I know. There were enlistments ending in 1778 and many regular Army and militia men were released to protect their homes on the western frontiers. But Louisville was in Virginia at this time and this JG had been with the 8th PA Line. Another red flag! We just don't have enough on this guy yet to leave anything out. I just hate to see 18th century buildings razed for office parks. Calvert Guthrie Kansas City

GUTHRIE, JAMES - (1750-1841) In 1778, at age 28, he accepted 400 acres near Cedar Creek (Fern Creek area) in payment for his Revolutionary War service. According to the book Lore & Legacy, he was shot in the cheek during an Indian attack and lost four of his teeth. His second wife, Eunice Cooper Price, was related to John Paul Jones. James passed away in 1841. (Info from the book, A Place in Time by the Courier Journal) Calvert Guthrie Kansas City

The story showed up in a Bullit County newspaper that was sent my way in reference to another artlcle in that edition. When I get home tonight I'll post the name & date of that paper I tried Google first but without luck. I 'm going to the historical society next. (Hey, are you the same MHG who used to collect classic bicycles?) Calvert Guthrie Kansas City

Shirley, I did quite a bit of research trying to tie my line to yours and was unsuccessful. They were in the same general area in the same time frames. I will include some of my line. Do you know of any of the siblings of William Guthrie ( as possible father of my Henry)? Have you participated in a DNA project? Morris Guthrie My earliest known ancestor is Henry Guthrie (guttry, Guthry, etc.), Said to be born in Georgia in 1812. Married Manerva Lyons in Covington, Newton Co, Ga in 1834. Appears in 1840 Census in Newton Co, Ga. Lived next to a William Guthrie, believe to be a brother. Moved to Roswell District of Cobb Co. Ga by 1850. Children: George W. b 1840, Sanford Wilburn, b 1842, Mary J., b 1845, Josephus b 1847, William Franklin, b 1849, Zacharias, b 1851, Francis, b 1854. Henry left family before 1860 for "gold rush" and was never heard from. All boys served in Civil War. Family moved to Blount 7 Cullman Counties in late 1860's. and remained in that area. Have been unable to identify any of Henry's siblings or parents. So far DNA has not found any close lines. Morris Guthrie

Could I have some links for this please? I just Googled the info with no luck - will try the newspapers there too. I'm very interested as I haven't been able to find the parents of my husband's ancestor Lewis Guthrie, who was born in Kentucky in 1816 and showed up by the 1830s in Shelby County. According to all census records with such information, his parents were born in KY also. Martha ----- Original Message ----- From: <CYCLETRUCK@aol.com> To: <GUTHRIE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [GUTHRIE] Louisville Guthrie's Farm house > Anybody out there following story > of the 1794 Louisville stone building > they're about to tear down? > It was built by a James Guthrie > (not to be confused with the Railroad tycoon) > who'd come from PA where he'd > served with the 8th PA Line. > > Calvert Guthrie > Kansas City > > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Anybody out there following story of the 1794 Louisville stone building they're about to tear down? It was built by a James Guthrie (not to be confused with the Railroad tycoon) who'd come from PA where he'd served with the 8th PA Line. Calvert Guthrie Kansas City

My oldest known ancestor is: William Guthrey was born 1772 in Virginia, and died May 05, 1854 in Cassandra, Walker County, Georgia. He married Mary Warren Musgrove 1808 in North Carolina, daughter of Harrison Musgrove and Jane Owen. She was born Abt. 1786 in North Carolina, and died Abt. 1865 in Walker County, Georgia. Children of William Guthrey and Mary Musgrove are: 1. Barnett Guthrey, born October 15, 1809; died October 15, 1809. 2. Harrison Guthrey, born October 15, 1809; died October 15, 1809. 3. Robert Musgrove Guthrey, born March 24, 1811 in Greene County, Georgia; died April 29, 1877 in Cassandra, Walker County, Georgia. He married (1) Mary Jane Hardin August 13, 1835 in Walton County, Georgia, daughter of Benjamin Hardin and Elizabeth Hearne. She was born January 23, 1818 in Walton County, Georgia, and died August 06, 1864 in Sublinga, Chattooga County, Georgia. He married (2) Harriet Ann Bradley April 22, 1869 in Cassandra, Walker County, Georgia, daughter of Greenberry Bradley and Rachel. She was born 1834 in Greenville County, South Carolina, and died July 09, 1888 in Cassandra, Walker County, Georgia. 4. Martha Jane Guthrey, born May 19, 1821 in Georgia; died May 19, 1905 in Imbler, Union County, Oregon. She married Jesse H. Stansell February 14, 1843 in Georgia, son of Jesse Stansell and Elizabeth Howell. He was born May 04, 1823 in North Carolina, and died May 17, 1885 in Summerville, Oregon. 5. William Olander Guthrey, born February 22, 1825 in Georgia; died October 1895 in Black Springs, Montgomery County, Arkansas. He married Clementine Stewart Abt. 1853 in Sand Mountain, Alabama, daughter of John Stewart. She was born April 20, 1838 in Georgia, and died November 1904 in Black Springs, Arkansas. I have a lot of information on the descendents of this family but have hit a brick wall when it comes to William's parents. Thanks, Shirley Anderson Oklahoma -- ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm

Hello List, My earliest proven Guthrie ancestor is John "Jack" W. Guthrie, born abt 1840 in Indiana and died before 1910 in ? I don't know who his parents, siblings were or have any information prior. He was married to Mary E. Turnbow/Turnbaugh, from Illinois. The information I do have is from the 1870 and 1880 Federal Census records and this is where I found his approximate age and origin of birth. My grandfather never knew his Guthrie grandparents and only knew his grandfather's name as Jack Guthrie. Haven't been able to locate this family in Illinois Census records, there are too many John Guthrie's and none have matched and it is highly possible they were on the move and not counted. 1870 Federal Census: Montgomery Co., Kansas, Cherry Township, P. O. Montgomery City, page 576, 06-03-1870. Ln. 29 65/65 GUTHRIE, John 36, M, W, Farmer, no R. E. value, personal Estate value $300, born in Indiana , Mary, 25, F, W, Keeping house, born in Illinois , Alf (Alfred), 11, M, W, bn. Illinois, cannot read or write, it appears to be checked for blindness or deaf & dumb, (though he was not) , Jacob, 9, M, W, bn. Illinois , Wm. ( John William), 6, M, W, bn. Illinois , Clara , 4, F, W, bn. Kansas , Samuel, 1, M, W, bn. Kansas 1880 Federal Census: Brown Co., Texas, sheet 20 D, Byrd's Store, 11th (?) of June 1880 Lines 33 - 40, 177/178 GUTHRIE, John W, Male, age 47 or 49, Head, married, Farmer, born in Indiana, parents born Indiana , M. E. W, Female, age 37, Wife, married, Keeping House, born in Illinois, father born in Kentucky, mother born in Missouri (Mary E.) , A. B. W, Male, age 21, Son, Single, At Home, Scossula(? very hard to read could be Scrofula or Scrossula), born in Illinois, father - Indiana, mother - Illinois (Alfred B.) , J. M. W, Male, age 19, Son, Single, At Home, Scossula (? same as above for A. B.), born in Illinois, father - Indiana, mother - Illinois (Jacob M.) , W. J. W, Male, age 16, Son, Single, At Home, born in Illinois, father - Indiana, mother - Illinois (William John - actually John William) , C. C. W, Female, age 13, Daughter, Single, At Home, born in Kansas, father - Indiana, mother - Illinois (Clara C.) , I. M. W, Female, age 7, Daughter, Single, At Home, born in Kansas, father - Indiana, mother - Illinois (Ida Mae) , O. E. W, Male, age 4, Son, Single, At Home, born in Kansas, father - Indiana, mother - Illinois (Olen E.) (Samuel Guthrie, born in Kansas, must have died as a child) Hoping someone will recognize any of these individuals. Dianne Blakley

For those of us that had Guthrie's of interest in Spartenburg, Union or York Counties, SC the following should be of interest. In 1897 Cherokee County was formed from portions of Spartenburg, Union and York Counties. I know there are mentions of Guthrie's in each of these counties. A circle drawn with a radius of about 5 miles around Cherokee falls (now in Cherokee Co.), would encompass areas that formerly were in Sparten, Union and York Counties. When trying to locate Guthrie's I have been using the present day boundaries of the three counties, but I realize now I should have been using pre 1897 boundaries. It now seems possible, perhaps even probable that Guthrie's mentioned as located in these three counties were very close to one another. Also if you lost track of your family line about 1900 then you might want to look in Cherokee Co., SC. Larry Larry Guthrie yrralguthrie@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

My oldest known Guthrie ancestor is Robert Guthrie, my gg grandfather. He lived in Washington County, PA, and married Ruth Roberts about the turn of the nineteenth century. Robert was born 1767, but I don't know his birth place or parents. Does anyone have any information?

The fartherest I have been able to go back is Robert Guthrie, b. ca. 1773 in Abbeyville Dist., S.C. He married Martha Jane Norwood, b. ca. 1779 (dau. of Capt. John Norwood and 2nd wife Jane Pickens Norwood) also of Abbeyville Dist., S.C. Robert and Jane Norwood Guthrie moved to Giles Co., Tn. and Robert is listed on the 1812 tax list for that county. Would like to know who parents of Robert were. Does anyone else have these two people in their lines? Surely (and hopefully) someone else is looking for these people, other than I. Thanks for any help. Betty Guthrie McCollum

My oldest known ancestor is Charles. I have often speculated that he was the Charles GUTRY listed in the 1790 census of Surry Co., NC but have absolutely nothing to support this theory. I do know that he was the Charles Guthrey on the early 1800 tax rolls of Halifax Co., VA. Charles left Virginia in the late 1820's and arrived in Kentucky in time to be enumerated on the 1830 census in Trigg Co. KY. His known children were IRBY, VINCENT, PATRICK, JESSE, and ELIZABETH. Patrick apparently never married and died prior to 1950. Jesse and his wife Mary GOODE moved on to Greene Co., IL, Elizabeth and her husband, Manning (Mannen) WARREN, moved to Pettis Co. MO and then on to Lawrence Co., MO. Vincent and Irby remained in KY and their descendants are found in both Trigg and Christian Counties. -- Judy Guthrie Warren

My earliest known ancestor is Henry Guthrie (guttry, Guthry, etc.), Said to be born in Georgia in 1812. Married Manerva Lyons in Covington, Newton Co, Ga in 1834. Appears in 1840 Census in Newton Co, Ga. Lived next to a William Guthrie, believe to be a brother. Moved to Roswell District of Cobb Co. Ga by 1850. Children: George W. b 1840, Sanford Wilburn, b 1842, Mary J., b 1845, Josephus b 1847, William Franklin, b 1849, Zacharias, b 1851, Francis, b 1854. Henry left family before 1860 for "gold rush" and was never heard from. All boys served in Civil War. Family moved to Blount 7 Cullman Counties in late 1860's. and remained in that area. Have been unable to identify any of Henry's siblings or parents. So far DNA has not found any close lines. Morris Guthrie

My husband's g-grandmother was Lucinda Margaret GUTHRIE, born 03 Feb 1827 in Spotsylvania County, VA; married Edward Spindle (1826-1862) on 12 June 1845 also in Spotsylvania Co.; died 03 May 1850 in Kaskaskia, IL. Lucinda died after giving birth to my husband's grandmother Sarah Elizabeth Spindle. Edward remarried a Martha McCormick and they had more children. I believe that Lucinda was one of 12 children of Bartlett Guthrie (1788-1845) and wife Rosamond Samuel (1791-1845); and Bartlett's father to be a William Guthrie. Hope there is someone else who is doing this same line so we can connect.

My husband's family - the Beaufort, NC GUTHRIE's of Carteret County have been a challenge. His mother was Susie C. GUTHRIE, b. 11-30-1907, d. 11-30-1994; daughter of Walter James GUTHRIE, b. 08-25-1872, d. 04-27-1949 (and Lula GABRIEL, b. 08-15-1876, d. 05-04-1942); son of Canelium Hines GUTHRIE, b. 11-03-1838; son of James C. GUTHRIE, b. 06-16-1803, d. 07-18-1828 and Caroline GUTHRIE GUTHRIE, b. 10-26-1809, d. 06-30-1868. Caroline's parents were Benjamin GUTHRIE and Hannah PARETREE, b. abt 1792 - married 07-14-1808. I continue to search for James C. GUTHRIE's parents. There are so many Guthrie's in the area with similar given names and varied spellings. Most information is from personal knowledge, court house records, the History Place in Morehead City, and the Carteret County Heritage Books. Have been giving this family a rest in my research lately. Evelyn

Hello, My oldest PROVEN ancestor is Edmond Guthrie b. 12 Aug 1843 in Spartenburg, SC he d. 23 Apr 1916 in Adair County, Oklahoma. He is buried in Mossville Cemetery, Boxley, Newton County, Arkansas. He married Sarah Lucinda Bull, dau of Michael and Kisie Bull. Kisie was supposedly an Indian. Edmond was married before he married Sarah. Their names are Elizabeth Price, Elizabeth Childress, and Mary Reed. Edmond served in the Civil War as a private in Co. D, 3rd Regiment of the Arkansas Calvary (Union). He is listed as living in Arkansas in all Census Reports from 1840-1910. I have been told his parents were Joseph and Susannah "Wood" Guthrie, but I have not been able to prove this yet. Joseph's parents wererederick and Molly "Louallen" Guthrie. All were from Spartenburg, SC. Michele

While I'm thinking about it. When a request for information is sent it is a good idea to include dates and places. A request such as "I need information on Whistle Britches and his wife Mary Tutor" may not get you the response you wish for. Also you may know your ancestor as John Guthrie, but a very large percentage of folks used a varient of their first name or their middle name sometime in their life. He may have been John Jackson or Jonathan or Johnson or William John or John William. So if you don't include dates and places many folks will never recognize the person even if they have information. Places are particularily important. Include at least the county and state along with the dates. Larry admin Larry Guthrie yrralguthrie@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

In the last couple of months there have been about a dozen new member subscribe. Now would probably be a good time to repost our oldest proven ancestor. Mine as follows: John Guthrie married Elizabeth Baskett in 1686 in Middlesex Co., VA. John died ca. 1706. He apparently had only one son that lived and had children. Another John, this one married 3 times the last to Mary Shay and my line continues from there. Proven with paper and DNA together. Larry Guthrie yrralguthrie@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

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