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    1. [GROVESTEEN] Grovesteen List - Status 2020
    2. John Buck, Jr.
    3. Dear Subscribers . Last Tuesday, 7 January 2020, RootsWeb sent out the following message: "MAILING LISTS Beginning March 2nd, 2020 the Mailing Lists functionality on RootsWeb will be discontinued. Users will no longer be able to send outgoing emails or accept incoming emails. Additionally, administration tools will no longer be available to list administrators and mailing lists will be put into an archival state. Administrators may save the email addresses in their list prior to March 2nd. After that, mailing list archives will remain available and searchable on RootsWeb. As an alternative to RootsWeb Mailing Lists, Ancestry message boards are a great option to network with others in the genealogy community. Message boards are available for free with an Ancestry registered account. Thank you for being part of the RootsWeb family and contributing to this community. Sincerely, The RootsWeb team" This is a bit of a blow to longtime members and no doubt over the next few weeks you will see many E-mails suggesting alternatives to the Mailing Lists. I would remind you to continue to take advantage of the website which is being developed by the original creators of RootsWeb, Brian Leverich and Karen Isaacson, at: http://www.linkpendium.com/ That site contains a real wealth of information! Times change and methods of communicating with each other evolve so different approaches are, I suppose, to be expected but change can be difficult at first even though we know (somewhere deep in our hearts) that change often begets progress. Brings to mind that old saying: Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Best wishes. John John Buck, Jr. List Administrator

    01/12/2020 05:23:15
    1. [GROVESTEEN] The RootsWeb Mailing Lists Are Back Up And Running ! !
    2. John Buck, Jr.
    3. Hi Everyone... Hope you had a lovely 2017, an even better Holiday Season .. And I hope that you will have a Wonderful 2018 ! The RootsWeb List Servers are back up and running after a very long downtime! There were hacking issues and upgrades that needed to be done. Not all of RootsWeb is back yet. WorldConnect and the Mailing Lists are, but the FreePages area is still being worked on and we haven't been notified of a completion date as yet. You can keep track of progress here: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ Best wishes. John John Buck, Jr. E-mail Address: <mailto:john.buck.jr@usa.net> john.buck.jr@usa.net Administrator for the: BUCK surname mailing list. DOWNS surname mailing list. GROVESTEEN surname mailing list and message board. SPOONER surname mailing list and message board. SUTER surname mailing list and message board. WIJEFFER mailing list for: Jefferson County, Wisconsin

    03/08/2018 12:34:03
    1. Re: [GROVESTEEN] GROVESTEEN Digest, Vol 2, Issue 3
    2. Lanette Lepper
    3. Now this is very interesting to me because my ancestor, Nehemiah (born in 1815), was the son of Garret (or Gerret, Garet) Grovesteen. I haven't been able to locate any information on THAT Garret, but I do have some information regarding a Garret S. Grovesteen that was born in 1839 (buried in Sweetman cemetery) who was in the Civil War and lived in Charlton most of his life. There is also a Garret L. Grovesteen, b 1836 in Pleasant Valley (which is where Nehemiah was located) who appears in the 1855(?) and 1880 Charlton Census with wife Minerva and children Edgar and Cora. I also have information on John & Eliza and their children and grandchildren if you need more information on them. They are buried in "Charlton New Cemetery" I know that someday, I'll actually connect MY Grovesteen's with someone elses... -lsl. Lanette Lepper Navy wife and Mom to Abby & Joanna <>< Check out www.Lanette.ismyangel.net for all of your scrapping and stamping needs! Handmade cards and invitations for all occasions ____________________________________________________________________________________ Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. http://games.yahoo.com/games/front

    01/15/2007 12:45:26
    1. Re: [GROVESTEEN] GROVESTEEN Digest, Vol 2, Issue 3
    2. Kim and Kennon Yeck
    3. We would love to have the pictures!!! Some day we may finally make a connection with my great-grandparents, etc. Also, I took pictures in the Pine Grove Cemetery in Charlton, NY, when I was looking for my great-grandparents headstones which we were never able to locate. However, my mother swears that my grandparents and my aunt and uncle often visited that cemetery so everything is a mystery for us. We know that my grandfather's mother was a Grovesteen (or Grovensteen). The 1855 census from Charlton has everyone listed as Grovenstern. However, I have photos of the headstones of John Grovesteen (1809-1879); Eliza (1814-1897); Harry (1874-1951); Martha (Harry's wife? since they are on the same stone) 1876-1962; Raymond J (1971 is all that is on his headstone. Nellie Warner his wife, 1958, is also on the same headstone with Raymond). We saw many headstones with Van Epps while we were in the cemetery but we did not know there was a connection. Kim On Jan 15, 2007, at 3:21 AM, grovesteen-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Charles S., Raymond, Nellie and Warner Grovesteen (John Buck, > Jr.) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 11:28:05 -0500 > From: "John Buck, Jr." <john.buck.jr@usa.net> > Subject: [GROVESTEEN] Charles S., Raymond, Nellie and Warner > Grovesteen > To: <grovesteen@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <001201c737f8$f8952710$90eafea9@computer> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > This message is forwarded, by the List Administrator, from: > rashdown3@aol.com > > > > Raymond Grovesteen is the brother of Charles S. Grovesteen, born in > Charlton > Village (1876) and died in Albany (1947). Charles had four sons -- > Raymond, > Stephen, Wilbur, and Charles. Wilbur's daughter is Joan Grovesten > Ashdown. > > Raymond's parents are James H. Grovesteen, born in New York State > (1843) and > died in Albany (1890), and Anna Van Epps Grovesteen, born in Glenville > (1843) and died in Albany (1889), Raymond's paternal grandparents > are John > Grovesteen, born in Duchess County (1809) and died in Charlton Village > (1879) and Eliza Crummel Grovesteen, born in New York State (1814) > and died > in Charlton Village (1897). > > We have pictures of Raymond, Nellie, and Warner (as a baby) > Grovesteen which > we'd be happy to send to anyone interested. > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the GROVESTEEN list administrator, send an email to > GROVESTEEN-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the GROVESTEEN mailing list, send an email to > GROVESTEEN@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GROVESTEEN- > request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of GROVESTEEN Digest, Vol 2, Issue 3 > **************************************** >

    01/15/2007 10:39:56
    1. [GROVESTEEN] Charles S., Raymond, Nellie and Warner Grovesteen
    2. John Buck, Jr.
    3. This message is forwarded, by the List Administrator, from: rashdown3@aol.com Raymond Grovesteen is the brother of Charles S. Grovesteen, born in Charlton Village (1876) and died in Albany (1947). Charles had four sons -- Raymond, Stephen, Wilbur, and Charles. Wilbur's daughter is Joan Grovesten Ashdown. Raymond's parents are James H. Grovesteen, born in New York State (1843) and died in Albany (1890), and Anna Van Epps Grovesteen, born in Glenville (1843) and died in Albany (1889), Raymond's paternal grandparents are John Grovesteen, born in Duchess County (1809) and died in Charlton Village (1879) and Eliza Crummel Grovesteen, born in New York State (1814) and died in Charlton Village (1897). We have pictures of Raymond, Nellie, and Warner (as a baby) Grovesteen which we'd be happy to send to anyone interested.

    01/14/2007 04:28:05
    1. [GROVESTEEN] Obituary: Helen F. Ingram Grovesteen - 1918 - 2007
    2. John Buck, Jr.
    3. Helen F. Grovesteen January 11, 2007 WATERTOWN, N.Y. - Helen F. Grovesteen, 88, W. Ten Eyck St., died Thursday morning, Jan. 11, at her home. Calling hours will be held at noon to 2 p.m. Sunday, Jan. 14, at Cummings Funeral Service, Inc., 214 Sterling St. The funeral service will follow at 2 p.m. Burial will be in New Cedar Grove Cemetery, Chaumont. Donations may be made in her name to the First Baptist Church, 207 State St., Watertown, N.Y. 13601 - whose love and support is appreciated by her family, or to the Scholarship Fund of Watertown Morning Musicales, c/o Mrs. Mary P. Sanford, 718 Ball Ave., Watertown, N.Y. 13601. Born Feb. 13, 1918, in Middleburgh, the daughter of George and Alice Swart Ingram, she was raised in Schenectady and graduated from Mt. Pleasant High School. On Dec. 24, 1941, one week prior to his departure for the war in Europe, she married Warner Grovesteen in Schenectady. Mr. Grovesteen, who ran the first A & P Store in Schenectady and was a cartographer for Louis Dickerson Assoc., Watertown, died Oct. 24, 1987. In the late 1940s, the couple resided in Falls Church, Va. Mr. Grovesteen worked for the US Army Map Service. Mrs. Grovesteen was a homemaker, and she was good at it. In 1955, the couple relocated to Watertown, and they started a family be adopting a son and a daughter. She was an active member of the First Baptist Church, and was a Cub Scout leader. She enjoyed sewing and cooking. Mrs. Grovesteen is survived by her son and his wife, Gary and Alice M. Grovesteen, Watertown, and her daughter, Robin Grovesteen, Parishville; her nieces and nephews. Her brother, Kenneth Ingram, and her 2 sisters, Marion Hale and Marjorie Ingram, died before her. Obituary provided by Cummings Funeral Service, 214 Sterling St., and Newzjunky.com, Watertown, N.Y. (List Administrator's NOTES: Warner's parents appear to be Raymond Jacob Grovesteen, born April 1883 in New York State, died July 1971 in Watertown, Jefferson County, New York; and Nellie Grovesteen, born about 1888 in New York State. Warner was born in 1917 and died in 1987 in Schenectady, New York. The obituary for Helen F. Ingram Grovesteen may be found at: http://www.newzjunky.com/obits/0111grovesteenobit.htm)

    01/12/2007 12:52:54
    1. [GROVESTEEN] Evelyn Minnie Grovesteen Skogen Hall - 1909 - 2007
    2. John Buck, Jr.
    3. Evelyn compiled a very nice record of her family history in 1993. She had been interested in her family genealogy for many years and was a great help to me when I began my research. Her obituary appeared today in the Tomah (Wisconsin) Journal, and is reprinted, along with the web site location, below. ****************************************************************** http://www.tomahjournal.com/articles/2007/01/08/obituaries/08obits.txt Evelyn M. (Skogen) Hall Evelyn M. (Skogen) Hall, age 97, of Tomah, WI, passed away on Thursday, Jan. 4, 2007, at the Tomah Memorial Hospital. She was born on Nov. 21, 1909, to Roy and Elizabeth "Lizzie" (Jensen) Grovesteen in LaGrange Township, Monroe County, WI. Evelyn was a 1928 graduate of Tomah High School. Her first job was for the Monroe County Register of Deeds as a Deputy Registrar. She was united in marriage to Clarence Skogen on Nov. 30, 1935, at her parents' home in the LaGrange Township. She worked as a secretary during the development of the Tomah Memorial Hospital. Together, Evelyn and Clarence dairy farmed for 26 years. She also worked in food service at the Tomah VA Medical Center, retiring in 1972. Evelyn was active in many organizations. She was a charter member of Gloria Dei Lutheran Church, a member of the Tomah Chapter #6 Order of the Eastern Star, the Benjamin Ville Homemakers Club and the Valley View Social Club. Following her retirement, she enjoyed traveling abroad, visiting many places such as, Norway, Sweden, Denmark and the Holy Land. Evelyn was a loving mother, grandmother and great grandmother. Her family meant the world to her and will miss her dearly. She is survived by her children, Roy (Joyce) Skogen, Joyce (Gene) Edgerton, Janice (Cliff) Lawton; grandchildren, Alan (Kathy) Edgerton, Wanda Connor, Wende Barry, Tammy (Fran) Hewuse, Sheryl (Tom) Wheeler, Russell (Paula) Barry; great-grandchildren, Mitchell and Matthew Connor, Ashley Utecht, Bryanna Barry, Kevin Skogen Jr., Clarence and Cassandra Skogen, John Barry, Tia and Trey Hewuse. She was preceded in death by her parents, Roy and Lizzie; her husband, Clarence, on Nov. 16, 1962; grandsons, Kevin Skogen Sr. and Jason Barry; grandson-in-law, Charlie Connor; brothers, Raymond, Miles and Loyal Grovesteen. Funeral services were held today (Monday), Jan. 8, at 11 a.m. at Gloria Dei Lutheran Church. Pastor William Rice officiated. Burial followed in Oak Grove Cemetery, Tomah. Visitation was on Sunday, Jan. 7, from 5 p.m. until 7 p.m. with a 7 p.m. Eastern Star service at the Torkelson Funeral Home in Tomah and today (Monday) from 10 a.m. until the time of service at the church. Online condolences are available at www.torkelsonfuneralhome.com ********************************************************* John Buck, Jr. Cleveland Heights, Ohio InterNet Address: john.buck.jr@usa.net My Basic Genealogical Data is located at the following sites: <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~johnbuckjr/> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~johnbuckjr/ http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=johnbuckjr Researching: In Illinois: BUCK / SUTER / HAYES / HARFORD / LANDRITH [LANDRETH] / THOMPSON / VANCIL In Tennessee: BUCK / RICHARDSON / GOOLSBY / THOMPSON In Pennsylvania, Massachusetts and Connecticut: BUCK / SPOONER / GROVESTEEN In Ohio: CURRY / HARFORD and... In Wisconsin: SMITH / OLSON / KITTELSEN / GROVESTEEN / SPOONER / BRAMAN / HILLIKER In New York: SMITH / DOWNS / GROVESTEEN / SPOONER / BRAMAN / SOOTS / SUITS / SUTZ / FRANCIS / HILLIKER In Norway: [Rogaland, Telemark]: KITTELSEN / KJETILSON / TENGESDAL / SVINBILL / SVIMBOL

    01/08/2007 09:20:29
    1. [GROVESTEEN] RootsWeb List Changes
    2. John Buck, Jr.
    3. Hi.... Now that RootsWeb has completed the "change" on this list, I thought I'd mention a couple of items that may be of interest to many of you who subscribe to this list. RootsWeb changed from "SmartList" to "Mailman" software to handle the day to day activities of the list. The change went smoothly and without incident, but there are one or two changes in policy that I thought you should be aware of. First of all: There are two "modes" available to you the list member: List Mode and Digest Mode. You may subscribe to either mode of receiving E-mail, but you may not subscribe to BOTH modes using one E-mail address. If you want to subscribe to both modes, you must use two different E-mail addresses. The result is that the "List Mode" no longer requires the "-L" in the address for subscribing and unsubscribing and submitting messages to the list. You CAN still use those variables in the address, but it is no longer necessary to do so. You still need to put only the word SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE in the Subject area and in the text area of those messages, depending upon what you want to do.... But only SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE .... No other, or additional, words. Do not send mail to the list using: -D Only send messages to the list using GROVESTEEN@rootsweb.com or GROVESTEEN-L@rootsweb.com However to subscribe and unsubscribe to and from the Digest Mode of the list use the address: GROVESTEEN-D-request@rootsweb.com If you filter your incoming mail you may need to adjust your filters so that incoming mail goes to the proper pre-selected folder in your E-mail program.... If you don't use filtering, this does not apply to you. There is also a new list available for anyone to ask questions, seek advice, etc., about the new maillist software. It has been designed for list subscribers to discuss the updates and get or give assistance in adjusting e-mail filters, etc.: LIST-UPDATE@rootsweb.com Subscribe at LIST-UPDATE-request@rootsweb.com OR to the digest mode at LIST-UPDATE-D-request@rootsweb.com You probably haven't noticed, and won't notice any changes at all.... If you have questions, please feel free to contact me at: GROVESTEEN-admin@rootsweb.com Thanks. John Buck, Jr. Administrator for the GROVESTEEN list at RootsWeb

    10/16/2006 09:11:36
    1. Re: GROVESTEEN-D Digest V05 #7
    2. Lanette Lepper
    3. Good News: Found my records. Bad News: David's Garret is not 'Mine' This is what I know... Nehemiah Grovesteen (listed as Jeremiah in the NY 1880 Census) was b. appx 1815 in Duanseburg, NY (I have since found John and Abraham listed living here in the 1820 census... but how are they related????) Nehemiah Died 11/18/1887 and buried in Union Vale. From his death records we know that his father was Garrett and Mother, Patience... both born in NY. So, that puts Garrett's birth somewhere in NY around the late 1790's. (Could he be a brother to Abraham?????? Why isn't Garrett listed in the 1820 census... or have I missed him?) -lsl. Lanette Lepper Navy wife and Mom to Abby & Joanna <>< TAC Angel #1961... check out www.theangelcompany.net Handmade cards and invitations for all occassions "Go Navy, Beat Army!" __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com

    10/26/2005 11:57:07
    1. Re: GROVESTEEN-D Digest V05 #7
    2. Lanette Lepper
    3. Well, David... that COULD be the "Garrett" I'm looking for. Now I'm going to have to turn my apartment upside down to find my folder of research! I've got 1,000 other things I need to do, but I HAVE to find it now that you've piqued my curiosity!!!!!! -lsl. Lanette Lepper Navy wife and Mom to Abby & Joanna <>< TAC Angel #1961... check out www.theangelcompany.net Handmade cards and invitations for all occassions "Go Navy, Beat Army!" __________________________________ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com

    10/26/2005 11:09:58
    1. Re: GROVESTEEN-D Digest V05 #6
    2. David See
    3. On 10/26/05 10:00 AM, "GROVESTEEN-D-request@rootsweb.com" <GROVESTEEN-D-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I did see a Townsend Grovesteen, with a child named James H. age 3, in the > 1860 New York City census..... This is the first time that I've come across > the name Townsend.... > If you're looking for a Townsend, check also for Towson. I've seen that as a variant/misspelling. There was a Townsend See living at about the same time in Westchester Co. > Does anyone have an idea about who is the father of John Grovesteen > mentioned below? That person may be the link to our two lines.... In my files I've slotted Johannes as the son of Gerrit Gravenstein and Catriena Yurckse (Jurkes) from near Tarrytown NY. I'll defer to a better qualified researcher regarding the validity of the ID, but the date and place fit tolerably well. Well, no, if I'm right then he didn't come from Holland, he would have been born in New York from an ethnically German father and Dutch mother. If a ship's list documented his immigration from Holland, that would override it and I'd change my placement of him. -David See Hudson Valley Sees http://hvsees.home.comcast.net

    10/26/2005 06:15:48
    1. Re: GROVESTEEN-D Digest V05 #5
    2. Lanette Lepper
    3. Bob, Do you have any more info on any other Grovesteen's in that cemetery? The Garrett you mentioned is NOT the one I'm looking for (he's too young) but I'm thinking he might be named after "My Garrett"... do you have any info on John's brothers? -lsl. Lanette Lepper Navy wife and Mom to Abby & Joanna <>< TAC Angel #1961... check out www.theangelcompany.net Handmade cards and invitations for all occassions "Go Navy, Beat Army!" __________________________________ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com

    10/25/2005 01:09:23
    1. 25 October 2005
    2. John Buck, Jr.
    3. Hi.... I did see a Townsend Grovesteen, with a child named James H. age 3, in the 1860 New York City census..... This is the first time that I've come across the name Townsend.... Does anyone have an idea about who is the father of John Grovesteen mentioned below? That person may be the link to our two lines.... My earliest GROVESTEEN is Johannes who evidently came from Holland around 1786. I have three children listed for him: Phoebe born 1798(who married John Woodruff); Isaiah born 1803(my ancestor); and Abraham H. born 1807. The "John" mentioned below "could" be another son, as could Lanette's "Nehemiah" who was born about 1815. Well.... Just musing.... John -----Original Message----- From: RASHDOWN3@aol.com [mailto:RASHDOWN3@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 1:42 PM To: GROVESTEEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GROVESTEEN-L] GROVESTEEN in California Kim, My wife's great and great, great grandfathers (James H. and John Grovesteen) are buried in Charlton, as is Garret Grovesteen, another of John's sons. John and Garret served in the same regiment and company in the Civil War. Do you know your grandfather's first name? I believe that the James H. Grovesteen referenced in this article was born in Albany, New York. He fought in the Civil War and lived in New York City for a time. At some point, he moved to California. I am not sure what the relationship is between the two lines of the Grovesteen family, but the name James H. is common to both. Our James H. moved to Albany himself in the late 1880s. Bob Ashdown In a message dated 10/25/2005 4:56:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time, kswy@shentel.net writes: > Here is some information from my mom that she remembered after you > sent this e-mail. Don't know if this would be of any help or would > allow anyone to help us get more information. We have very little > info. Thanks for what you do!! > > My mom said that my grandfather (whose mother was a Grovesteen and is > buried in a Charlton cemetery) "had a cousin named Lizzie, who lived > in Fort Ann. Her married last name was Manning; her husband's first > name was Newell, or some such spelling, and they had a son adopted if > I can remember correctly and his name was Herbert." > > Kim ==== GROVESTEEN Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from the GROVESTEEN-L or GROVESTEEN-D list just send the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in both the subject line and in the body of the message to GROVESTEEN-L-request@rootsweb.com (or to GROVESTEEN-D-request@rootsweb.com if you're receiving the "Digest Mode") To review Archived messages: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/GROVESTEEN-L If you have problems or questions, contact the List Manager: John Buck, Jr at: john.buck.jr@usa.net ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

    10/25/2005 10:24:46
    1. Re: [GROVESTEEN-L] GROVESTEEN in California
    2. Kim, My wife's great and great, great grandfathers (James H. and John Grovesteen) are buried in Charlton, as is Garret Grovesteen, another of John's sons. John and Garret served in the same regiment and company in the Civil War. Do you know your grandfather's first name? I believe that the James H. Grovesteen referenced in this article was born in Albany, New York. He fought in the Civil War and lived in New York City for a time. At some point, he moved to California. I am not sure what the relationship is between the two lines of the Grovesteen family, but the name James H. is common to both. Our James H. moved to Albany himself in the late 1880s. Bob Ashdown In a message dated 10/25/2005 4:56:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time, kswy@shentel.net writes: > Here is some information from my mom that she remembered after you > sent this e-mail. Don't know if this would be of any help or would > allow anyone to help us get more information. We have very little > info. Thanks for what you do!! > > My mom said that my grandfather (whose mother was a Grovesteen and is > buried in a Charlton cemetery) "had a cousin named Lizzie, who lived > in Fort Ann. Her married last name was Manning; her husband's first > name was Newell, or some such spelling, and they had a son adopted > if I can remember correctly and his name was Herbert." > > Kim

    10/25/2005 07:42:08
    1. Re: [GROVESTEEN-L] GROVESTEEN in California
    2. K. Yeck
    3. Here is some information from my mom that she remembered after you sent this e-mail. Don't know if this would be of any help or would allow anyone to help us get more information. We have very little info. Thanks for what you do!! My mom said that my grandfather (whose mother was a Grovesteen and is buried in a Charlton cemetery) "had a cousin named Lizzie, who lived in Fort Ann. Her married last name was Manning; her husband's first name was Newell, or some such spelling, and they had a son adopted if I can remember correctly and his name was Herbert." Kim On Oct 23, 2005, at 11:20 PM, John Buck, Jr. wrote: > I found an article which relates to a J.H. Grovesteen who was > living in > California in 1898. Mr. Grovesteen evidently accidentally shot > another man, > and the article pertains to that shooting. I'll copy it and send > it to the > list in the next E-mail. > > With a bit of digging, I came up with the following: James H. > Grovesteen, > born about 1847 in New York State. In the 1910 Los Angeles, > California > census his second wife's name is Emma A., born about 1856 in New > York State, > and they were married about 1888. I don't find evidence that they > had any > children. > > He is also listed in the 1920 Los Angeles census. > > In the 1880 Census there is a James H. Groversten in Charlton, > Saratoga > County, New York, living with wife Ann, age 36, children: Lizzia > age 12, > Frank age 10, Henry age 5, Charles age 4, Fannie age 3 and "Other" > Eliza age > 67. As we will see in the 1870 census, Eliza is probably his mother. > > In the 1870 Charlton, Saratoga County, New York census, there is a > James H. > Grovesteen, of the right age, living with his wife Anna and two > children: > Lizzie L. age 2, and Frank P. 7 months old. Living next door is > John age > 60, Eliza age 55, Elanor C. age 19, Isaac H. age 15, Lillia M. age > 4. There > is also a Gant S. age 32, a Mary S. age 17 living in the same > county in the > 1870 census..... > > In the 1860 census for Saratoga County, New York, John is listed > with Eliza, > Alexander age 12, Elen age 9, Mary F. age 7, and Isaac M. age 5. > But I > haven't found James H. > > In the 1850 census for Charlton, Saratoga County, New York, John > and Eliza > are with their family, but it is difficult to make out.... > > Just thought I'd pass this on in case any of you are working on any > of these > names...... > > Best wishes. > > John > > > John Buck, Jr. > 1779 Middlehurst Road > Cleveland Heights, Ohio > 44118-1647 > Phone: (216) 932-9059 > InterNet Address: john.buck.jr@usa.net > > My Basic Genealogical Data is located at the following sites: > > <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~johnbuckjr/> > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~johnbuckjr/ > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi? > db=johnbuckjr > > > > To subscribe to the Roots-L BUCK surname mailing list, just > send the command "subscribe" to: > BUCK-L-request@rootsweb.com > > To subscribe to the Roots-L DOWNS surname mailing list, just > send the command "subscribe" to: > DOWNS-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > To subscribe to the Roots-L GROVESTEEN surname mailing list, just > send the command "subscribe" to: > <mailto:GROVESTEEN-L-request@rootsweb.com> > GROVESTEEN-L-request@rootsweb.com > > To subscribe to the Roots-L SUTER surname mailing list, just > send the command "subscribe" to: > SUTER-L-request@rootsweb.com > > To subscribe to the Roots-L WIJEFFER mailing list for Jefferson > County, > Wisconsin, just > send the command "subscribe" to: > WIJEFFER-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > Researching: > > In Illinois: BUCK / SUTER / HAYES / HARFORD / LANDRITH [LANDRETH] / > THOMPSON > / VANCIL > In Tennessee: BUCK / RICHARDSON / GOOLSBY / THOMPSON > In Pennsylvania, Massachusetts and Connecticut: BUCK / SPOONER / > GROVESTEEN > In Ohio: CURRY / HARFORD > > and... > > In Wisconsin: SMITH / OLSON / KITTELSEN / GROVESTEEN / SPOONER / > BRAMAN / > HILLIKER > In New York: SMITH / DOWNS / GROVESTEEN / SPOONER / BRAMAN / > SOOTS / SUITS / > SUTZ / FRANCIS / HILLIKER > In Norway: [Rogaland, Telemark]: KITTELSEN / KJETILSON / TENGESDAL / > SVINBILL / SVIMBOL > > > > > ==== GROVESTEEN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the GROVESTEEN-L or GROVESTEEN-D list just send > the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in both the subject > line and in the body of the message to GROVESTEEN-L- > request@rootsweb.com > (or to GROVESTEEN-D-request@rootsweb.com if you're receiving the > "Digest Mode") > To review Archived messages: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/GROVESTEEN-L > If you have problems or questions, contact the List Manager: John > Buck, Jr > at: john.buck.jr@usa.net > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your > ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and > friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/ > 2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > >

    10/24/2005 10:53:43
    1. Re: GROVESTEEN-D Digest V05 #4
    2. Lanette Lepper
    3. Very interesting that they are located in Charlton, NY... I believe that Charlton is where Nehemiah Grovesteen was listed in a Business DIrectory (and I think there was a Samuel there, too). BUT, I don't have dates and I have NO CLUE where all my genealogy stuff is (GASP!) It'll turn up one of these days when we move again :-) Anyway... Nehemiah is the ancestor I was 'stuck' on until we found out his father was "Garrett" (I had info on a Garrett Grovesteen, but the dates didn't jive, so I'm thinking it was a nephew or something like that.) I'm hypothesizing that Samuel was Nehemiah's brother, but who knows. Another mystery to solve when I don't have 2 young kiddo's demanding my time and energy :-) -lsl. Lanette Lepper Navy wife and Mom to Abby & Joanna <>< TAC Angel #1961... check out www.theangelcompany.net Handmade cards and invitations for all occassions "Go Navy, Beat Army!" __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com

    10/24/2005 11:48:01
    1. J. H. Grovesteen - The article......
    2. John Buck, Jr.
    3. Here is the article I mentioned in my earlier E-mail......... it can be found at: http://www.findagrave.com/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0 <http://www.findagrave.com/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=506703&an=0&page =0> &Number=506703&an=0&page=0 The following San Diego Union (12/17/1893) article describes how this man died. "At 9 o'clock yesterday morning, Gen. Datus E. Coon was accidentally shot by his friend, J. H. Grovesteen. The ball of 32 calibre entered about an inch below and two inches to the right of the navel, inflicting an exceedingly painful and perhaps fatal wound. The manner in which the accident occurred and the circumstances connected with it were described by Mr. Grovesteen to a San Diego Union reporter, and his version was corroborated by Gen. Coon in conversations with Gen. Murray and Judge Luce soon after the unfortunate occurrance took place. "I had promnised Father Ubach to go out to the old mission this morning to repair an organ at the Indian school, said Mr. Grovesteen, and was anxious to have a companion on the trip. In fact, Mrs. Grovesteen insisted that I should not go alone, on account of the large number of tramps said to have been encountered at different times lately by travelers in outlying districts of the city and in consequence I asked two or three different friends to go along before I thought of Gen. Coon. None of the others could go, but the Gen. was unoccupied and said he would be delighted to take the outing. This was at the Ablemarle Hotel where I met him about 8 o'clock in the morning. "He went up to his room and got his revolver and then we drove to my house at First and Date streets. The Gen. remained in the buggy while I went in and procured my tools and a lunch to be taken along. When these had been placed in the rear of the vehicle, I stepped ino the buggy at the right side. Noticing that the general carried his revolver in his outside upper coat pocket, I thought to put my revolver, and old fashioned weapon, and one which I had not seen for perhaps three years, in the same pocket in my coat. I took the scabbord containing it from my side pocket, and curious to see the condition of the revolver, drew it from the scabbord. "After a glance, I returned it to the scabbord, but in some unaccountable manner, and while the revolver was still in my grasp, the weapon was discharged, blowing out the end of the scabbord. Before I had looked up, Gen. Coon, sitting beside me, gasped, 'You have killed me, Grovesteen; I am done for.' "I was horror striken, but realizing the situation, I immediately began to assist the general in getting to the ground, and with but little help from me, he walked up the steps to the house and into a room where he reclined on a bed. I made him as comfortable as possible at a moment's notice, and leaving him in my wife's care, I ran to Dr. Edward's residence. "That physician responded at once. He found by a hasty examination that the wound was an exceedingly dangerous one, and called in other physicians. Drs. Magee, Hearne and Burton, the latter the army surgeon at the barracks, were called. From what they told me, I fear there is very slight hope for my poor friend. It was a terrible accident. "Besides the doctors named, there were numerous friends and acquaintances of the general at the house within a short time after the shooting, but owing to the nature of the unfortunate man's wound, no one was admitted except Gen. Albert Dill and one or two old army friends of the general, who acted in the capacity of nurses during the afternoon." "Many anxious inquiries were made at the house as to his condition throughout the afternoon and the deplorable accident was but the one subject of conversation among hundreds of persons. No blame is in any way attached to Mr. Grovesteen, but rather keen sympathy, for he has long been an intimate friend of Gen. Coon. The only near relative of Gen. Coon is a daughter, Mrs. Charles Loomis, who is a resident of San Francisco. She was telegraphed to immediately after the accident and is doubtless now far on her way toward this city. Later Gen. Coon died very quietly at 2:44 this morning." --------------------

    10/23/2005 05:23:38
    1. GROVESTEEN in California
    2. John Buck, Jr.
    3. I found an article which relates to a J.H. Grovesteen who was living in California in 1898. Mr. Grovesteen evidently accidentally shot another man, and the article pertains to that shooting. I'll copy it and send it to the list in the next E-mail. With a bit of digging, I came up with the following: James H. Grovesteen, born about 1847 in New York State. In the 1910 Los Angeles, California census his second wife's name is Emma A., born about 1856 in New York State, and they were married about 1888. I don't find evidence that they had any children. He is also listed in the 1920 Los Angeles census. In the 1880 Census there is a James H. Groversten in Charlton, Saratoga County, New York, living with wife Ann, age 36, children: Lizzia age 12, Frank age 10, Henry age 5, Charles age 4, Fannie age 3 and "Other" Eliza age 67. As we will see in the 1870 census, Eliza is probably his mother. In the 1870 Charlton, Saratoga County, New York census, there is a James H. Grovesteen, of the right age, living with his wife Anna and two children: Lizzie L. age 2, and Frank P. 7 months old. Living next door is John age 60, Eliza age 55, Elanor C. age 19, Isaac H. age 15, Lillia M. age 4. There is also a Gant S. age 32, a Mary S. age 17 living in the same county in the 1870 census..... In the 1860 census for Saratoga County, New York, John is listed with Eliza, Alexander age 12, Elen age 9, Mary F. age 7, and Isaac M. age 5. But I haven't found James H. In the 1850 census for Charlton, Saratoga County, New York, John and Eliza are with their family, but it is difficult to make out.... Just thought I'd pass this on in case any of you are working on any of these names...... Best wishes. John John Buck, Jr. 1779 Middlehurst Road Cleveland Heights, Ohio 44118-1647 Phone: (216) 932-9059 InterNet Address: john.buck.jr@usa.net My Basic Genealogical Data is located at the following sites: <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~johnbuckjr/> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~johnbuckjr/ http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=johnbuckjr To subscribe to the Roots-L BUCK surname mailing list, just send the command "subscribe" to: BUCK-L-request@rootsweb.com To subscribe to the Roots-L DOWNS surname mailing list, just send the command "subscribe" to: DOWNS-L-request@rootsweb.com To subscribe to the Roots-L GROVESTEEN surname mailing list, just send the command "subscribe" to: <mailto:GROVESTEEN-L-request@rootsweb.com> GROVESTEEN-L-request@rootsweb.com To subscribe to the Roots-L SUTER surname mailing list, just send the command "subscribe" to: SUTER-L-request@rootsweb.com To subscribe to the Roots-L WIJEFFER mailing list for Jefferson County, Wisconsin, just send the command "subscribe" to: WIJEFFER-L-request@rootsweb.com Researching: In Illinois: BUCK / SUTER / HAYES / HARFORD / LANDRITH [LANDRETH] / THOMPSON / VANCIL In Tennessee: BUCK / RICHARDSON / GOOLSBY / THOMPSON In Pennsylvania, Massachusetts and Connecticut: BUCK / SPOONER / GROVESTEEN In Ohio: CURRY / HARFORD and... In Wisconsin: SMITH / OLSON / KITTELSEN / GROVESTEEN / SPOONER / BRAMAN / HILLIKER In New York: SMITH / DOWNS / GROVESTEEN / SPOONER / BRAMAN / SOOTS / SUITS / SUTZ / FRANCIS / HILLIKER In Norway: [Rogaland, Telemark]: KITTELSEN / KJETILSON / TENGESDAL / SVINBILL / SVIMBOL

    10/23/2005 05:20:14
    1. Re: GROVESTEEN-D Digest V05 #2
    2. Lanette Lepper
    3. John, I'd love the picture of the Grovesteen Piano. I have a blurb about them somewhere, but not sure where. BTW, you can add Joanna Audrey Lepper, born 9/13, to my Grovesteen Line :-) We just got home today. -lsl. Lanette Lepper Navy wife, Abby's Mom, and TAC Angel #1961 Handmade cards and invitations for all occassions "Go Navy, Beat Army!" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

    09/15/2005 10:24:25
    1. George Grovesteen Piano Mfr
    2. THJ
    3. Seeking information about George H. Grovesteen, Piano Manufacturer of New York 1850? onwards. Not directly related, but interested in connection with the Vanderhoof family who worked for him. His son James Grovesteen married Emma vanderhoof. Many thanks. Terry HJ England

    09/13/2005 02:05:57