This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/IWg.2ACIB/1152.3.1.1 Message Board Post: There are other surnames as well. Kloeckner was 1. If you find you are too stuck let me know by my email and I will see if I can help you. I started with nothing last May and have a tree of over 200 families thus far over 900 people. Would be glad to help you out Trish. Angi