This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/IWg.2ACIB/1240.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Joanne, My Charles was born 1862 Kuebelberg Bavaria. He had 12 children. His father's name was Jacob and his mother's name was Catherina Krupp. Do you hhave any Krupp's in your line? If you do then we have a connection. Also Kloeckner, Velten, and Muller ( Mueller). Let me know if you connect. Charles had several sibblings and could be that yours was from same line that stayed in Germany. Angi