This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/IWg.2ACIB/1140.1.2.1 Message Board Post: Hi, Andreas: I have not yet found an exact match, but I think that Louis P, Gross' father's name was Phillip Gross. There are more than one man by this name in the general Ohio area. Before I can be sure which one, I must retrieve copies of the birth certificates or marriage licenses. I will be looking into this in a couple of weeks. Have you tried: http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp ? They have the 1880 census online, as well as some other helpful information. I will let you know what I find out! Laura