This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Gross Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/IWg.2ACIB/1162 Message Board Post: I was searching the other day looking for a birth certificate for my grandfather James E. Gross He was supposidly born in harlan co. Ky around 1932 and died in ohio around 1972. I looked but couldn't find a birth cert. for him being in harlan co. Ky. His mothers name would have been haley or hallie? But what I did find was a Earnest Gross born in harlan co. Ky around 3-1-31 or 4-1-31 born to a Hallie Gross from harlan. That date would be an exact year before my grandfather was to be born. I don't know if someone has found a certificate for him or not but if anyone does then please let me know. Because I have a few theories of my own. The first being either hallie wasn't his mother or he had a older brother that no one was told about or his name isn't james and if earnest...but I don't see the last one happening. By looking at his picture and then looking at a picture of his father and of his mothers mother and brother he doesn't look anything like them. He was a dark skinne! d man from what I see in the pic and of what my father tells me and none of the people in the pictures are anywhere close to being as dark as he is. So I don't know if he was maybe adopted or what. But if anyone has proof of anything please get ahold of me through email so I can stop worrying about it. I would be doin this myself but our geneaology dept. is down and closed until after feb. And it being the 2nd biggest and best in the united states I'm sure I couldn't get it there....Any help or knowledge is very much appreciated! Happy Holidays to everyone!