This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: HGrisso Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.grisso/51.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Judy; NOT all Grissos are related ! Howard Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: FamilySeeker22 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.grisso/51.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks Howard, It's fascinating what can be found online. With a name like Grisso I know it must be a relative. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: HGrisso Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.grisso/51.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Judy; This is the same person. Joseph Melton GRISSO b. 02/1870 d. 1935. He was married twice. His parents were: William M. (Little Bill) b. 5 Sep 1844 d. 12 Jan 1922 and Martha J. Brown b. 22 Dec 1849 d. 4 May 1886. His grand parents were: George W. b. 1817 d. ? and Catherine "Katy" Grubb b. 1810 d. ?. Hope this helps. Glad to see you are still hanging in there, same here. Howard Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: FamilySeeker22 Surnames: Grisso Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.grisso/51/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have not been able to positively identify this Joe M. Grisso who was acquitted of Murder. Is this the correct Joe Grisso and if so who are his parents & Grandparents? The 1920 census has: Name: Joe M Grisso Residence: , McIntosh, Oklahoma Estimated birth year: 1875 Age in years: 45 Birthplace: Arkansas Relationship to head-of-household: Gender: Male Race or color (on document): White Marital status: Married Father's birthplace: Arkansas Mother's birthplace: Missouri Film number: 1821471 Digital GS number: 4384919 Image number: 01010 Sheet number: 3 Collection: United States Census, 1920 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Groom's name: Joe M Grisso Groom's age in years: 31 Groom's estimated birth year: 1872 Groom's residence: Salem, Fulton, Arkansas Bride's name: Maud Robinson Bride's age in years: 19 Bride's estimated birth year: 1884 Bride's residence: Bakersfield, Ozark, Missouri Marriage date: 20 Dec 1903 Marriage license date: 19 Dec 1903 Marriage place: , Fulton, Arkansas, United States Film number: 1290016 Digital GS number: 4326287 Image number: 00222 Page: 379 Source: Arkansas County Marriage Records, 1837-1957 Collection: Arkansas County Marriages, 1837-1957 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Looking on Google and found info about W.E. "Doc" GRISSO of Seminole, OK. In 1920 Census, Dixon GRISSO 14 is listed as son of W.E. I guess that he is child of W.E.'s 1st marriage to Ollie DIXON. Does anyone have more info on Dixon GRISSO? His full name, marriage, death, etc.? One online family tree listed him as Walker Dixon GRISSO, and an inquiry on one of the lists shows him as William Dixon GRISSO, who married a Mary Beth? Which is right? Jimmy M. Sisson in TN

Hello Cousin James, We have to be cousins since we both descend from children of Mathias GRISSO. The theory that you throw out about an even earlier marriage date, if indeed there was a 2nd marriage, is certainly a valid one. I just focused on the two younger daughters being improbable daughters of Marie Elizabeth (MAUER) GRISSO, especially in the time frame of the late 1790's. The Census Records for Catherine (GRISSO) SISSON indicate a birthdate of 1796, which would make Marie Elizabeth 49 at her birth. Catherine was listed as 53 VA in 1850, 62 VA in 1860, and 74 VA in 1870. She also was apparently of age 21 in 1817 when she and Ludlow Branham SISSON married. Ludlow was b: 1797, and his father signed for him; there was no parental permission apparently needed for Catherine. Unfortunately, there are no dates for your Susanna since she died before 1850. I do have two instances in my own family of births in their 40's. My paternal gr-grandmother was born in 1838 and gave birth to her youngest child and my grandmother, Callie Alma MUNCY, in 1881 when she was 43. My maternal grandmother was born in 1892 and gave birth to her youngest child in 1936 when she was 44. But, I think 43 and 44 are a long way from 49 and probably 52 when it comes to bearing children. Plus there was 85 to 140 years for medicine to improve, in the instances stated. I have added Elizabeth GREENLEE as mother of Catherine in my online tree, Twisted Branches, at Ancestry.com. That's better than unknown spouse and now I have to prove the connection. I had posed the question about a 2nd marriage of Mathias back in early 2008 and got 2 responses. I had just hoped to get people thinking and open up a discussion. There are a lot of trees online that list Catherine and Susanna GRISSO as direct ancestors. If enough people question the late life births, maybe more eyes will find an answer. Thanks for your time, Jimmy M. Sisson in TN

You are right that it would be unlikely for a woman to continue having children into her 50s. I have not seen the book to which you referred, "Descendants of the Ludlow B. Sisson Family" and have not seen the name Elizabeth Greenlee in connection with the Grisso family. Thus, I, like most other researchers, had no reason to question the existing information regarding Marie Elizabeth Maurer, even though I wondered at some of the dates. There are large enough gaps in the dates of birth for the children that it is hard to read anything into that. We have an exact date for Jacob, the oldest, of July 23, 1772, but the next, Margaret, is "abt 1780," or roughly seven and a half years later, followed by George in July 1783, and Polly "abt 1786." Catherine was born about seven years later, and Susannah six years after that. So, it would actually be as reasonable to conclude that a second wife could have been the mother of all the children but Jacob, having married Matthias sometime before 1780. In your post from yesterday, you suggested a date of "after 1786, and before 1793 or 1796." Is there a reason it could not have been at the earlier date? Most records indicate the first three or four children were born in PA; thus, if the first wife died during that time period, we would not find a grave -- or tombstone -- for her in VA. FYI, although there are 43 family tree listings on Ancestry which show Mathias married to Marie Elisabeth Maurer, there is only one that shows him married to Elisabeth Greenlee -- a Rosemary West, who cites as a source "Descendants of Richard Sisson" http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~dasisson/ Author: Carol Sisson Regehr. And none of them indicate a second marriage. >Hello James, >Thanks for your quick reply and answers to my questions about Mathias >GRISSO. >The last question about the 2nd marriage to Elizabeth GREENLEE is my >stumbling block. >Every online list of supposed burials at the GRISSO cemetery, that I have >seen, says that Elizabeth GRISSO died 1830; this does not rule out a 2nd >wife named Elizabeth. Everyone has taken that to be Marie Elizabeth MAURER, >but it could just as well be Elizabeth GREENLEE. >I have no proof, and all my research has been online, but I believe that >Marie Elizabeth probably died after Polly GRISSO was born in 1786. Marie >Elizabeth was born in 1747, and that would make her 46 to 49 years old at >Catherine's birth in 1793 -1796; and 52 to 54 years old as your Susannah's >birth in 1799-1801. I just believe that is improbable, especially in >that era. >Thanks again, Jimmy M. Sisson in TN -- _________________ James Shuman [email protected] _________________

Hello James, Thanks for your quick reply and answers to my questions about Mathias GRISSO. The last question about the 2nd marriage to Elizabeth GREENLEE is my stumbling block. Every online list of supposed burials at the GRISSO cemetery, that I have seen, says that Elizabeth GRISSO died 1830; this does not rule out a 2nd wife named Elizabeth. Everyone has taken that to be Marie Elizabeth MAURER, but it could just as well be Elizabeth GREENLEE. I have no proof, and all my research has been online, but I believe that Marie Elizabeth probably died after Polly GRISSO was born in 1786. Marie Elizabeth was born in 1747, and that would make her 46 to 49 years old at Catherine's birth in 1793 -1796; and 52 to 54 years old as your Susannah's birth in 1799-1801. I just believe that is improbable, especially in that era. Thanks again, Jimmy M. Sisson in TN

Jimmy M. Sisson in TN writes: >A few questions about Mathias. Would appreciate any help. >Does anyone know the religion of Mathias GRISSO? There is some indication that his wife Marie Elizabeth Maurer was from a Lutheran family. I don't have any documentation one way or another about Matthias, but some of their children are known to have been members of the German Baptist Brethren. They settled in the Botetort Co/Roanoke Co, VA area, which was heavily populated with German Baptist members. >Were any of his children christened or baptized? If so, where and when? The German Baptists did not baptize infants, and they did not keep very good baptismal records. I have not seen any baptismal or christening dates. >Did Mathias GRISSO leave a Will? I have not seen one mentioned, although my research in VA is sketchy. >Does anyone have proof of a 2nd marriage of Mathias GRISSO to Elizabeth >GREENLEE, d/o Robert GREENLEE. This marriage would have taken place after >1786, and before 1793 or 1796. That is when my 2nd gr-grandmother, Catherine >(Grisso) SISSON was supposedly born. The name of Elizabeth GREENLEE comes >from page 12 of Sebert SISSON's book, "Descendants of the Ludlow B. Sisson >Family". It is also listed on the SISSON Genealogy site. No dates or sources >to back it up. Matthias' wife Marie Elizabeth Maurer is said to have died in 1830 and be buried in Back Creek Twp, Roanoke Co, VA. That makes a marriage to Elizabeth Greenlee at any time after 1786 unlikely. I show Catherine Grisso Sisson as the daughter of Marie Elizabeth Maurer, as is my ancestor, Susannah b. 1799. Susannah m. Jacob Brubaker in 1820, and they were German Baptist Brethren. Hope this helps. -- _________________ James Shuman [email protected] _________________

A few questions about Mathias. Would appreciate any help. Does anyone know the religion of Mathias GRISSO? Were any of his children christened or baptized? If so, where and when? Did Mathias GRISSO leave a Will? Does anyone have proof of a 2nd marriage of Mathias GRISSO to Elizabeth GREENLEE, d/o Robert GREENLEE. This marriage would have taken place after 1786, and before 1793 or 1796. That is when my 2nd gr-grandmother, Catherine (Grisso) SISSON was supposedly born. The name of Elizabeth GREENLEE comes from page 12 of Sebert SISSON's book, "Descendants of the Ludlow B. Sisson Family". It is also listed on the SISSON Genealogy site. No dates or sources to back it up. Thanks, Jimmy M. Sisson in TN

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Obits101 Surnames: Grisso Classification: obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.grisso/49.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Daily Oklahoman 11-02-1955 p.12 Rites will be 10:30 am Wednesday in the Seminole Church of Christ for W.E. "Doc" Grisso, 81, pioneer soil conservationist and Seminole oil operator. Grisso, also active in Oklahoma's highway expansion, died Monday afternoon following a stroke. A native of Arkansas, he moved to Tidmore in the Seminole Indian reservation in 1903, and operated a drugstore there until 1926. Grisso was a member of the state highway commission during the Marland administration. He gained early fame in highway affairs when he backed the road which became known as the Ozark trail. He had been in the oil buisness since 1925, and was still active at the time of death. He formerly served as director of soil conservation in Seminole county. ***posted for genealogical purposes only; no relation*** ????? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: HGrisso Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.grisso/50.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: >From her tombstone in Little Cemetery, Little, OK (north of Seminole, OK): b. 1882 d: 1907. According to the Grisso Family book, in an article written by his granddaughter, Susan Garland, they were married in 1905, with son born later that year. Olive died in childbirth in 1907. Daughter, Olive, lived 10 months before dying. Parents of Olive were Henry Dixon and Pernecia Catherine Cook. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: HGrisso Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.grisso/50.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I was wrong in my first message. W. E. went to OK alone. He sent for Olive in 1905, to marry her. Their son was born later that year. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: TeriPettit Surnames: Grisso Dixon Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.grisso/50.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Do you have a birthdate or exact dates of marriage or death for his first wife Olive Dixon, mother of his oldest son Walker Dixon Grisso (b. 13 June 1905)? I only have that they were married about 1904 and she died in 1907. Since they will therefore not appear together in any census year, and I don't know her parents, there is not enough information to find her birthdate. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: HGrisso Surnames: Grisso, Dixon Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.grisso/50.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: William Edward "Doc" Grisso was born in Vidette,Fulton,AR. He lived in that area until December 1903, when He and his first wife, Ollie Dixon Grisso, took the train to Mekusukey Swith, otherwise known as Tidmore, OK (present day Seminole, OK). He was my grand-uncle. Please contact me if you need any more information. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: golconda328 Surnames: W.E. "Doc" Grisso Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.grisso/50/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Where in Arkansas was Mr. Grisso born and was he raised there? Where did he attend school? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: golconda328 Surnames: W.E. Doc Grisso Classification: obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.grisso/49.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Could I also have a copy of the obit for W.E."Doc" Grisso just as it ran in the oklahoman in 1955 Nov. 2nd. send to my home e-addy please. Also a copy sent to my office e-addy too which is [email protected] R Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

My interest in the Grisso's is where I have found they intersect my Barnhart ancestors.  I mainly subscribed to offer the information I have to others.  I have a copy of Settlers Along Back Creek by Nelson Harris which has history of the families around Poage's Mill, VA. These are the Grisso families I have in my tree at the moment. Please contact me if you have or need information about them. Thanks, Scott RIN Surname, Given names BirthDt Spouse 1412 GRISSO, Catherine 20 Feb 1836 - John Taylor SHEPHERD 1415 GRISSO, Daniel B. 11 Aug 1840 - Sarah SPITLER 1435 GRISSO, Daniel Hoyt 5 Jan 1859 - Sarah Lucinda CAMPBELL 1413 GRISSO, Frances 7 Oct 1837 - Noah Markey GARST 1424 GRISSO, Hannah 25 Nov 1855 - James Monroe WELLS 974 GRISSO, Harvet M. - Martha Marie BARNHART 555 GRISSO, Hawkins 8 Mar 1810 - Hannah BARNHART 1741 GRISSO, Jacob - Susan BAKER 1414 GRISSO, Jacob 25 Apr 1839 - Leanna BRILLHART 1430 GRISSO, James Madison 1 Mar 1847 - Nannie Valentine RETTINGER 1434 GRISSO, Jane Frances 9 Jun 1856 - John Thomas HENRY 1428 GRISSO, Joel 1 Nov 1842 - Matilda WOLF 559 GRISSO, John 10 Jan 1818 - Frances BARNHART 1436 GRISSO, Martha 6 Jan 1862 - James Alexander PETERS 1427 GRISSO, Mary 28 May 1840 - Henry L. BRUBAKER 1420 GRISSO, Mary 25 Mar 1848 - Louis Wilford SNOW 1418 GRISSO, Nancy 25 Jan 1845 - Jeremiah GARST 620 GRISSO, Noah - Effie Calpurina BARNHART 1423 GRISSO, Sarah 8 May 1853 - Peter GARMAN 1432 GRISSO, Sarah E. 16 Sep 1854 - Samuel Joseph HENRY 1106 GRISSO, Sevilla 1892 - Joel BARNHART 1425 GRISSO, Susanna 2 May 1858 - Samuel Reid WELLS 1426 GRISSO, Susannah 5 Sep 1838 - Moses E. BRUBAKER 1429 GRISSO, William Edwin 1 Mar 1845 - Mary Catherine POAGE

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Obits101 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.grisso/49.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: ...I have sent ya a copy directly to your email addy listed. Please let me know if there is anything further. Until then, good luck with your research... :-)) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: HGrisso Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.grisso/49.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I would like the full obituary for W. E. "Doc" GRISSO, that appeared in the Oklahoman on 11-02-1955, page 13. Thank you Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.