Norma, Thank you for the information. Cathy -----Original Message----- From: Norma Leibold [mailto:nel.127@cox.net] Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 12:42 PM To: GRIFFITH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GRIFFITH] Country and spellings Hi Cathy: My grandfather told me of my ancestors origin as he had seen the Griffiths tree of Wales when he was a young man. Also there were brothers that migrated to Jamaica and a mystery surrounded their death. My booklet on the Griffiths says not only were they in Wales but in the English Counties of Warwick,Stafford,Your,Oxford,Chester,Gloucester,Essex,Leicester,Buckingh am and London. Records indicate that they were, for the most part, of the landed gentry and yoemanry of the British Isles. With research history tells us of the upheaval in Scotland, Ireland and migration to Australia and of course America, and Canada. I find for myself its having to do in-depth researching to find the original ancestor. Good luck. Norma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lampshire, Cathy" <clampshire@Exchange.FULLERTON.EDU> To: <GRIFFITH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 12:06 PM Subject: [GRIFFITH] Country and spellings > I know that Griffith is a Welsh surname, but it sure seems to appear > in several British Isle countries. How would someone know where their > particular line originated? Is there some type of pattern in the > different countries? > > > > Thank you, > Cathy > > > > ==== GRIFFITH Mailing List ==== > Flame wars will not be tolerated on this list. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > ==== GRIFFITH Mailing List ==== No Advertising on this list, no rude remarks, no chain letters, no virus warnings! ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Hi Cathy: My grandfather told me of my ancestors origin as he had seen the Griffiths tree of Wales when he was a young man. Also there were brothers that migrated to Jamaica and a mystery surrounded their death. My booklet on the Griffiths says not only were they in Wales but in the English Counties of Warwick,Stafford,Your,Oxford,Chester,Gloucester,Essex,Leicester,Buckingham and London. Records indicate that they were, for the most part, of the landed gentry and yoemanry of the British Isles. With research history tells us of the upheaval in Scotland, Ireland and migration to Australia and of course America, and Canada. I find for myself its having to do in-depth researching to find the original ancestor. Good luck. Norma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lampshire, Cathy" <clampshire@Exchange.FULLERTON.EDU> To: <GRIFFITH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 12:06 PM Subject: [GRIFFITH] Country and spellings > I know that Griffith is a Welsh surname, but it sure seems to appear in > several British Isle countries. > How would someone know where their particular line originated? > Is there some type of pattern in the different countries? > > > > Thank you, > Cathy > > > > ==== GRIFFITH Mailing List ==== > Flame wars will not be tolerated on this list. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

I know that Griffith is a Welsh surname, but it sure seems to appear in several British Isle countries. How would someone know where their particular line originated? Is there some type of pattern in the different countries? Thank you, Cathy

Thank you 'Happy Texan': I didn't realize there was a connection that early in Pa. even though I have seen listings I didn't think they were related. My problem is I can't find the link of when the Griffiths (surname spelling in Scotland) migrated from Wales. I haven't been able to find anything before 1789/1799 (IGI) of James Griffiths parents. I have tried but hit that dog gone brick wall. I'm not anxious about contacting that research outfit in the UK to do research just yet. They will have to search the early church records I think there called OPR's.(Old Parochial Records) I can't get to a FHC so I just might have to resort to them. Thank you for your message I appreciate your kindness. Norma:Southern California ----- Original Message ----- From: "Happy Texan" <ldavis@lcc.net> To: <GRIFFITH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 2:19 PM Subject: Re: [GRIFFITH] Mary Griffith m. William Willett (1700s, MD) > The original spelling of Griffith is Gryffudd/Gryfudd. In the Welsh > language the dd is pronounced th. Your information sounds fascinating, > Norma. There is a line that settled in Pa in the 1600/1700 that does > descend from the last Prince of Wales, possibly some of those are yours. > Leah > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Norma Leibold <nel.127@cox.net> > To: <GRIFFITH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 1:24 PM > Subject: Re: [GRIFFITH] Mary Griffith m. William Willett (1700s, MD) > > > > My ancestors came from Scotland and originated in Wales. There is a family > > tree of the Griffiths (original spelling of surname) for my ancestors but > it > > was lost some 80/90 years ago. But family folk lore tells that our line > > descended from the Kings and Queens in the 1200's in Wales. There is > > supposed to be a crest and tartan, however I have been unable to verify > this > > and have been unable to locate the family before 1799. My 2g grandparents > > came from Ayr, Scotland and immigrated to Pa. ca. 1840's. I have the names > > of all the siblings born in Scotland but have been unable to locate all of > > them. The men all were miners in Schuylkill Co., and Northumberland > Co.,Pa. > > I am willing to share what ever info I have compiled with anyone connected > > with my line. > > Norma > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jan Griffith" <jagriffith1@earthlink.net> > > To: <GRIFFITH-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 4:43 PM > > Subject: Re: [GRIFFITH] Mary Griffith m. William Willett (1700s, MD) > > > > > > > The Griffith's of Wales and America has Griffith people living in > Mayfield > > > KY now. it was wrote by Laura Griffith. If i remember right it was > > Griffith > > > from Wales who came to America and heads up her clan. his brother john > > > Griffith heads up my clan in America.. > > > > > > > > > > [Original Message] > > > > From: Happy Texan <ldavis@lcc.net> > > > > To: <GRIFFITH-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Date: 5/12/2004 3:11:22 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [GRIFFITH] Mary Griffith m. William Willett (1700s, MD) > > > > > > > > Lynn, (my middle name) There are several Griffith Books, one being by > R. > > > R. > > > > Ridgley, which probably has that line. The Griffiths I have in > Virginia > > > > scattered all over Tn, Ky, etc. There is also a book by a lady whose > > > name I > > > > can't recall right off, but she has a collection of Griffiths, though > > not > > > in > > > > any organized order, things on Griffiths folks sent to her. Have you > > > seen > > > > any of these? > > > > Mine is the Griffith/Maccubbin line, and it seems they vanish as I try > > to > > > > get them 'across the pond'. Anyone have further info on these? Leah > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Lynn Ester" <griffith851@hotmail.com> > > > > To: <GRIFFITH-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 11:35 AM > > > > Subject: Re: [GRIFFITH] Mary Griffith m. William Willett (1700s, MD) > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you know which line came to NC? I have a William Griffith in > Surry, > > > > > Stokes and Forsyth Counties in NC (about 1780) that I am unable to > > trace > > > > > back any further. His wife was named Susannah (Waggoner by > > tradition-no > > > > > verification). Any help would be appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > Lynn Ester > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Happy Texan" <ldavis@lcc.net> > > > > > >Reply-To: GRIFFITH-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > >To: GRIFFITH-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > >Subject: Re: [GRIFFITH] Mary Griffith m. William Willett (1700s, > MD) > > > > > >Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 20:18:20 -0500 > > > > > > > > > > > >Don't rule out that time period between generations, as that > > > > > >Griffith/Maccubbin had several generations out of whack. A bit > more > > > > > >distance than usual. What did they name their children? That > will > > > give > > > > > >you a clue if she is from that line, the same names were used > > > > continuously, > > > > > >and even though the fathers always liked to name after their side, > > the > > > > > >wives > > > > > >got their family names in as well. I checked some of my books > rather > > > > > >quickly and the Willetts are there, and the wife is Mary, but when > I > > > have > > > > > >more time I will check further. Names of the children will help > > > > determine > > > > > >that particular line. Some of this G/M line went to N.C. There > is > > > also > > > > a > > > > > >line of Griffiths in Pa., separate family from the G/Maccubbin > bunch. > > > > Leah > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > > >From: Gordon Bonnet <jaggy227@fltg.net> > > > > > >To: <GRIFFITH-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > >Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2004 7:52 PM > > > > > >Subject: [GRIFFITH] Mary Griffith m. William Willett (1700s, MD) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm looking for any documentation of the origins of Mary > Griffith, > > > b. > > > > > > > ca. 1710 probably in Maryland, who married William Willett. > > > > References > > > > > > > differ as to her origin, and no one seems to have much primary > > > > > > > documentation on her. I've seen her listed as the child of > George > > > > > > > Griffith, b. late 1600's, d. 1756 in Dorchester Co. MD; others > say > > > she > > > > > > > is the child of John and Mary (Stevens) Griffith. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't have any further information on either George or John's > > > family > > > > > > > which might help narrow the search. One piece of information > > which > > > > > > > would argue against the "George hypothesis" is that in George > > > > Griffith's > > > > > > > will, 1756, his daughter Mary is still called "Mary Griffith" > and > > > not > > > > by > > > > > > > what would be her married name of Willett -- Mary (Griffith) > > Willett > > > > > > > was married in the 1730's. This would seem to indicate that > > > George's > > > > > > > daughter Mary is not the Mary Griffith who married William > > Willett. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some sources indicate that the John Griffith who married Mary > > > Stevens > > > > is > > > > > > > of the William Griffith/Sarah MacCubbin line, but this seems > > > > unlikely -- > > > > > > > there isn't enough time between William Griffith and Mary > > (Griffith) > > > > > > > Willett to fit in the required number of generations. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, any help would be greatly appreciated. I'm happy to > send > > > more > > > > > > > details on any of this information if anyone's interested. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cheers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gordon Bonnet > > > > > > > Trumansburg NY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== GRIFFITH Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > No Advertising on this list, no rude remarks, no chain letters, > no > > > > virus > > > > > >warnings! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new > > Immigration > > > > > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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Does anyone know about a William Griffith (born ca 1765) who married a Susannah Waggoner? They lived in Surry, Stokes and Forsyth Counties in NC. Any help would be appreciated. I "feel" as if he is "kin" to a John, Benjamin and George Griffith who lived in Surry, Stokes, and Yadkin Counties in NC. Lynn >From: Jwbake@aol.com >Reply-To: GRIFFITH-L@rootsweb.com >To: GRIFFITH-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [GRIFFITH] John Griffith >Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 08:53:24 EDT > >Seeking parents and places of birth of John and Catharine Griffith. He >first >appeared on Shenandoah County, Virginia Personal Property Tax Lists in >1785. >He and his son-in-law, John Valentine (m. Mary Griffith), jointly purchased >a >tract of land on Hawksbill Creek in 1786. He later bought property on Dry >Run, >where he died in 1820 and Catharine in 1824. These two tracts were located >in >present-day Page County, which was formed from parts of Shenandoah and >Rockingham Counties in 1831. Besides Mary, other children were David, John, >William, >Sally, Rachel (m. Rickabaugh), Nancy, Ellen and Catharine. > >John and Catharine Griffith may have arrived in Shenandoah County from >either >Maryland or Pennsylvania possibly via Frederick County, Virginia. > >Joe Baker > > >==== GRIFFITH Mailing List ==== >Get more from your posts, include who, what, when where... > >Please remember to change the subject line, when the subject changes. > >============================== >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with the new version of MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/

You're welcom Gordon. I found this book on the internet. It was a rare and out-of-print book. Maybe Mary's parents will surface some day. Best regards, Joanna -----Original Message----- From: Gordon Bonnet [mailto:jaggy227@fltg.net] Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 3:08 PM To: GRIFFITH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GRIFFITH] Mary Griffith m. William Willett (1700s, MD) Hi Joanna, This was very helpful -- thanks. I wish I could find _any_ connection between Mary (Griffith) Willett and the Griffith/MacCubbin crew - so far, there doesn't seem to be anything, even anything circumstantial, to connect them. No common names on wills, or anything. It'd be great if Mary turned out to be an unaccounted-for daughter of William and Comfort -- it'd be nice if it was that easy.... Thanks again for your information. cheers, Gordon Joanna Dunn wrote: >HI All, > >I have the book, ANNE ARUNDEL GENTRY by Harry Wright Newman; Maryland >Pioneer Press, 1933. > >On page 179, he says: > >Charles Griffith, son of William and Sarah Maccubin Griffith was born >on January 20, 1693, in St. Ann's Parish, Anne Arundel County. He >married first Mary Wolden Mercer. She had previously married on June >17, 1713, Jacob Mercer. > >Children of Charles and Mary Wolden Griffith: > >1. William Griffith, b. 1718, married Priscilla Ridgely. >2. Charles Griffith, born 1719,married Ann Davadige >3. Mary Griffith, born 1721, married Joseph White, Mar. 4, 1738. > >His wife departed on February 18, 1721, and he married secondly in 1727 >Catherine, born 1705, the daughter of John and Hester Larkin Baldwin. > >Children of Charles and Caterine Baldwin Griffith >4. John Griffith married widow of Benjamin Williams, d.s.p. 1774, >naming his nephew John G. Worthington, nieces Catherine and Elizabeth >Worthington, and brother-in-law Nicholas Worthington. > >5. Sarah Griffith married Feb. 26 1751, Azel, (born Apr. 3, 1726) son >of Alexander and Dinah Davidge Warfield. > >6. Catherine Griffith married Nocholas Worthington. > >[The Author states on page 180 that:] >This information is taken from his (Charles') remarkable "pocket book" >which fortunately has been handed down to the present generation. > >Also, according to this same book on page 184: > >William Griffith, son of William and Sarah Maccubin Griffith, was born >April 15, 1697, in St. Ann's Parish, Anne Arundel County. He married >Comfort, born March 17,1700, the daughter of John and Elizabeth (Jones) >Duval. > >Children of William and Comfort Duval Griffith: >1. Ezekiel Griffith, born 1720, died young. >2. Orlando Griffith married Elizabeth >3. William Griffith married Sarah Reynolds, widow. > >William Griffith settled early in the western portion of Prince Georges >County near Catocin Mountain before that section was organized into >Frederick County. At the establishment of that county in 1748, he was >commissioned one of the first justices of the peace and continued to >serve in that capacity until his death in Frederick County during 1757. > >Also according to this book, Orlando [William and Comfort Duval >Griffith] Griffith's son John Griffith was born July 20, 1770 in >Frederick County, Maryland. In 1806 with his brother, Chisholm, he >removed to North Carolina. There in 1820 he married Nancy Agnes >(Dobson) Young, born March 8, 1780, the daughter of Captain Joseph >Dobson of the Revolutionary Army. > >Children of John and Nancy Agnes Dobson Griffith: > >1. John Orlando Griffith, born June 1, 1821, married Sept. 27, 1854, >Sarah Catherine Higgins; resided at Micaville, NC. > >John Griffith died November 12, 1853, his widow on September 5, 1860. > >[This is a North Carolina connection that someone else in this thread >was looking for. This John Griffith would be the Gr-grandson of >William and Sarah Maccubin Griffith]. > >Now, in my opinion (Joanna speaking now). Mary Griffith who married >William Willett might be the daughter of William Griffith and Comfort >Duval since he was the first Griffith to settle in a portion of Prince Georges County. > >There is no mention of William Willett in this book. Let me also add >that my husband descends from Orlando Griffith (son of William and >Sarah Maccubin >Griffith) and his wife Katherine Howard. > >Hope this helps some. >Best Regards, > >Joanna Smith Dunn > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Gordon Bonnet [mailto:jaggy227@fltg.net] >Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 7:58 PM >To: GRIFFITH-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [GRIFFITH] Mary Griffith m. William Willett (1700s, MD) > > >Hi.... > > > >>Don't rule out that time period between generations, as that >>Griffith/Maccubbin had several generations out of whack. A bit more >>distance than usual. >> >> >> >It seems like there are too few generations. Mary Griffith's eldest >child (Elizabeth) was born in 1738. This puts her Mary's birthdate as >1720 at the latest. I've seen Mary listed as the daughter of either >George or John Griffith -- whichever it was, he'd have to have been born >ca. 1700. William and Sarah (MacCubbin) Griffith only had four >children, all born between 1691 and 1697, so the Griffith/MacCubbin >children would be contemporaries of John and/or George, not their >parents. Of course it's possible (likely, perhaps) that neither John >nor George were Mary's father -- I've seen no primary documentation of >either -- but that still doesn't leave the door open to connect to the >Griffith/MacCubbin kids, as to my knowledge none of them had a daughter >Mary. > >One question, however -- I have (possibly?) incomplete information on >two of the Griffith/MacCubbin kids -- I have no children for Charles >Griffith by his first wife, Mary Wolden (perhaps they had none?) nor any >children at all for William Griffith who m. Comfort Duvall. Did either >of these marriages produce children? Could Mary have been a daughter of >either Charles or William? > > > >> What did they name their children? That will give >>you a clue if she is from that line, the same names were used >>continuously, and even though the fathers always liked to name after >>their side, the wives got their family names in as well. >> >> >> >Mary Griffith & William Willett had 13 kids -- in order, Elizabeth, >Edward, William, Verlinda, Jemima, Griffith, Tabitha, Samuel, George, >John, Mary, Rachael, and James. Of these, Edward, Tabitha, and William >are definitely from the Willett side. Rachael, Verlinda, and Jemima >seem like the odd ones, but I don't see those in the Griffith/MacCubbin >crew, either. > > > >> I checked some of my books rather >>quickly and the Willetts are there, and the wife is Mary, but when I >>have more time I will check further. Names of the children will help >>determine that particular line. >> >> >> >I'd be very interested to hear what you think about all this! Mary >Griffith has eluded me for years -- it'd be great to figure out her line. > >cheers, > >Gordon > > > >==== GRIFFITH Mailing List ==== >Flame wars will not be tolerated on this list. > >============================== >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > >==== GRIFFITH Mailing List ==== >No Advertising on this list, no rude remarks, no chain letters, no >virus warnings! > >============================== >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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Jan - My g-g-grandfather EVAN S. GRIFFITH was born in 1824 in Clinton Co. Ohio. His father was ELIJAH GRIFFITH BORN IN VA. His father was SAMUEL GRIFFITH born in Penn. If this is of any help , please let me know & I'll be happy to share what little I have. Dorothy Sumner

This book tells about the happenings of the Griffith blood line fighting for their crowns in the pre 1700's era. and goes a long ways back, its mainly blood line, no sur names back then.. pick up the book and check it out.. it sounds like your clan went to Scotland about the same time 3 of my ancestors came to pa.. Jan Griffith jagriffith1@earthlink.net Why Wait? Move to EarthLink.

can u tell me any thing on clinton county, ohio griffiths? > [Original Message] > From: Happy Texan <ldavis@lcc.net> > To: <GRIFFITH-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 5/13/2004 5:26:14 PM > Subject: Re: [GRIFFITH] Mary Griffith m. William Willett (1700s, MD) > > I doubt that will happen, since he had a will and mentioned no daughter. :( > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gordon Bonnet <jaggy227@fltg.net> > To: <GRIFFITH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 3:07 PM > Subject: Re: [GRIFFITH] Mary Griffith m. William Willett (1700s, MD) > > > > Hi Joanna, > > > > This was very helpful -- thanks. I wish I could find _any_ connection > > between Mary (Griffith) Willett and the Griffith/MacCubbin crew - so > > far, there doesn't seem to be anything, even anything circumstantial, to > > connect them. No common names on wills, or anything. It'd be great if > > Mary turned out to be an unaccounted-for daughter of William and Comfort > > -- it'd be nice if it was that easy.... > > > > Thanks again for your information. > > > > cheers, > > > > Gordon > > > > Joanna Dunn wrote: > > > > >HI All, > > > > > >I have the book, ANNE ARUNDEL GENTRY by Harry Wright Newman; Maryland > > >Pioneer Press, 1933. > > > > > >On page 179, he says: > > > > > >Charles Griffith, son of William and Sarah Maccubin Griffith was born on > > >January 20, 1693, in St. Ann's Parish, Anne Arundel County. He married > > >first Mary Wolden Mercer. She had previously married on June 17, 1713, > > >Jacob Mercer. > > > > > >Children of Charles and Mary Wolden Griffith: > > > > > >1. William Griffith, b. 1718, married Priscilla Ridgely. > > >2. Charles Griffith, born 1719,married Ann Davadige > > >3. Mary Griffith, born 1721, married Joseph White, Mar. 4, 1738. > > > > > >His wife departed on February 18, 1721, and he married secondly in 1727 > > >Catherine, born 1705, the daughter of John and Hester Larkin Baldwin. > > > > > >Children of Charles and Caterine Baldwin Griffith > > >4. John Griffith married widow of Benjamin Williams, d.s.p. 1774, naming > his > > >nephew John G. Worthington, nieces Catherine and Elizabeth Worthington, > and > > >brother-in-law Nicholas Worthington. > > > > > >5. Sarah Griffith married Feb. 26 1751, Azel, (born Apr. 3, 1726) son of > > >Alexander and Dinah Davidge Warfield. > > > > > >6. Catherine Griffith married Nocholas Worthington. > > > > > >[The Author states on page 180 that:] > > >This information is taken from his (Charles') remarkable "pocket book" > which > > >fortunately has been handed down to the present generation. > > > > > >Also, according to this same book on page 184: > > > > > >William Griffith, son of William and Sarah Maccubin Griffith, was born > April > > >15, 1697, in St. Ann's Parish, Anne Arundel County. He married Comfort, > > >born March 17,1700, the daughter of John and Elizabeth (Jones) Duval. > > > > > >Children of William and Comfort Duval Griffith: > > >1. Ezekiel Griffith, born 1720, died young. > > >2. Orlando Griffith married Elizabeth > > >3. William Griffith married Sarah Reynolds, widow. > > > > > >William Griffith settled early in the western portion of Prince Georges > > >County near Catocin Mountain before that section was organized into > > >Frederick County. At the establishment of that county in 1748, he was > > >commissioned one of the first justices of the peace and continued to > serve > > >in that capacity until his death in Frederick County during 1757. > > > > > >Also according to this book, Orlando [William and Comfort Duval Griffith] > > >Griffith's son John Griffith was born July 20, 1770 in Frederick County, > > >Maryland. In 1806 with his brother, Chisholm, he removed to North > Carolina. > > >There in 1820 he married Nancy Agnes (Dobson) Young, born March 8, 1780, > the > > >daughter of Captain Joseph Dobson of the Revolutionary Army. > > > > > >Children of John and Nancy Agnes Dobson Griffith: > > > > > >1. John Orlando Griffith, born June 1, 1821, married Sept. 27, 1854, > Sarah > > >Catherine Higgins; resided at Micaville, NC. > > > > > >John Griffith died November 12, 1853, his widow on September 5, 1860. > > > > > >[This is a North Carolina connection that someone else in this thread was > > >looking for. This John Griffith would be the Gr-grandson of William and > > >Sarah Maccubin Griffith]. > > > > > >Now, in my opinion (Joanna speaking now). Mary Griffith who married > William > > >Willett might be the daughter of William Griffith and Comfort Duval since > he > > >was the first Griffith to settle in a portion of Prince Georges County. > > > > > >There is no mention of William Willett in this book. Let me also add > that > > >my husband descends from Orlando Griffith (son of William and Sarah > Maccubin > > >Griffith) and his wife Katherine Howard. > > > > > >Hope this helps some. > > >Best Regards, > > > > > >Joanna Smith Dunn > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Gordon Bonnet [mailto:jaggy227@fltg.net] > > >Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 7:58 PM > > >To: GRIFFITH-L@rootsweb.com > > >Subject: Re: [GRIFFITH] Mary Griffith m. William Willett (1700s, MD) > > > > > > > > >Hi.... > > > > > > > > > > > >>Don't rule out that time period between generations, as that > > >>Griffith/Maccubbin had several generations out of whack. A bit more > > >>distance than usual. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >It seems like there are too few generations. Mary Griffith's eldest > > >child (Elizabeth) was born in 1738. This puts her Mary's birthdate as > > >1720 at the latest. I've seen Mary listed as the daughter of either > > >George or John Griffith -- whichever it was, he'd have to have been born > > >ca. 1700. William and Sarah (MacCubbin) Griffith only had four > > >children, all born between 1691 and 1697, so the Griffith/MacCubbin > > >children would be contemporaries of John and/or George, not their > > >parents. Of course it's possible (likely, perhaps) that neither John > > >nor George were Mary's father -- I've seen no primary documentation of > > >either -- but that still doesn't leave the door open to connect to the > > >Griffith/MacCubbin kids, as to my knowledge none of them had a daughter > > >Mary. > > > > > >One question, however -- I have (possibly?) incomplete information on > > >two of the Griffith/MacCubbin kids -- I have no children for Charles > > >Griffith by his first wife, Mary Wolden (perhaps they had none?) nor any > > >children at all for William Griffith who m. Comfort Duvall. Did either > > >of these marriages produce children? Could Mary have been a daughter of > > >either Charles or William? > > > > > > > > > > > >> What did they name their children? That will give > > >>you a clue if she is from that line, the same names were used > > >>continuously, and even though the fathers always liked to name after > > >>their side, the wives got their family names in as well. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >Mary Griffith & William Willett had 13 kids -- in order, Elizabeth, > > >Edward, William, Verlinda, Jemima, Griffith, Tabitha, Samuel, George, > > >John, Mary, Rachael, and James. Of these, Edward, Tabitha, and William > > >are definitely from the Willett side. Rachael, Verlinda, and Jemima > > >seem like the odd ones, but I don't see those in the Griffith/MacCubbin > > >crew, either. > > > > > > > > > > > >> I checked some of my books rather > > >>quickly and the Willetts are there, and the wife is Mary, but when I > > >>have more time I will check further. Names of the children will help > > >>determine that particular line. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >I'd be very interested to hear what you think about all this! Mary > > >Griffith has eluded me for years -- it'd be great to figure out her line. > > > > > >cheers, > > > > > >Gordon > > > > > > > > > > > >==== GRIFFITH Mailing List ==== > > >Flame wars will not be tolerated on this list. > > > > > >============================== > > >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > >==== GRIFFITH Mailing List ==== > > >No Advertising on this list, no rude remarks, no chain letters, no virus > warnings! > > > > > >============================== > > >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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I doubt that will happen, since he had a will and mentioned no daughter. :( ----- Original Message ----- From: Gordon Bonnet <jaggy227@fltg.net> To: <GRIFFITH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [GRIFFITH] Mary Griffith m. William Willett (1700s, MD) > Hi Joanna, > > This was very helpful -- thanks. I wish I could find _any_ connection > between Mary (Griffith) Willett and the Griffith/MacCubbin crew - so > far, there doesn't seem to be anything, even anything circumstantial, to > connect them. No common names on wills, or anything. It'd be great if > Mary turned out to be an unaccounted-for daughter of William and Comfort > -- it'd be nice if it was that easy.... > > Thanks again for your information. > > cheers, > > Gordon > > Joanna Dunn wrote: > > >HI All, > > > >I have the book, ANNE ARUNDEL GENTRY by Harry Wright Newman; Maryland > >Pioneer Press, 1933. > > > >On page 179, he says: > > > >Charles Griffith, son of William and Sarah Maccubin Griffith was born on > >January 20, 1693, in St. Ann's Parish, Anne Arundel County. He married > >first Mary Wolden Mercer. She had previously married on June 17, 1713, > >Jacob Mercer. > > > >Children of Charles and Mary Wolden Griffith: > > > >1. William Griffith, b. 1718, married Priscilla Ridgely. > >2. Charles Griffith, born 1719,married Ann Davadige > >3. Mary Griffith, born 1721, married Joseph White, Mar. 4, 1738. > > > >His wife departed on February 18, 1721, and he married secondly in 1727 > >Catherine, born 1705, the daughter of John and Hester Larkin Baldwin. > > > >Children of Charles and Caterine Baldwin Griffith > >4. John Griffith married widow of Benjamin Williams, d.s.p. 1774, naming his > >nephew John G. Worthington, nieces Catherine and Elizabeth Worthington, and > >brother-in-law Nicholas Worthington. > > > >5. Sarah Griffith married Feb. 26 1751, Azel, (born Apr. 3, 1726) son of > >Alexander and Dinah Davidge Warfield. > > > >6. Catherine Griffith married Nocholas Worthington. > > > >[The Author states on page 180 that:] > >This information is taken from his (Charles') remarkable "pocket book" which > >fortunately has been handed down to the present generation. > > > >Also, according to this same book on page 184: > > > >William Griffith, son of William and Sarah Maccubin Griffith, was born April > >15, 1697, in St. Ann's Parish, Anne Arundel County. He married Comfort, > >born March 17,1700, the daughter of John and Elizabeth (Jones) Duval. > > > >Children of William and Comfort Duval Griffith: > >1. Ezekiel Griffith, born 1720, died young. > >2. Orlando Griffith married Elizabeth > >3. William Griffith married Sarah Reynolds, widow. > > > >William Griffith settled early in the western portion of Prince Georges > >County near Catocin Mountain before that section was organized into > >Frederick County. At the establishment of that county in 1748, he was > >commissioned one of the first justices of the peace and continued to serve > >in that capacity until his death in Frederick County during 1757. > > > >Also according to this book, Orlando [William and Comfort Duval Griffith] > >Griffith's son John Griffith was born July 20, 1770 in Frederick County, > >Maryland. In 1806 with his brother, Chisholm, he removed to North Carolina. > >There in 1820 he married Nancy Agnes (Dobson) Young, born March 8, 1780, the > >daughter of Captain Joseph Dobson of the Revolutionary Army. > > > >Children of John and Nancy Agnes Dobson Griffith: > > > >1. John Orlando Griffith, born June 1, 1821, married Sept. 27, 1854, Sarah > >Catherine Higgins; resided at Micaville, NC. > > > >John Griffith died November 12, 1853, his widow on September 5, 1860. > > > >[This is a North Carolina connection that someone else in this thread was > >looking for. This John Griffith would be the Gr-grandson of William and > >Sarah Maccubin Griffith]. > > > >Now, in my opinion (Joanna speaking now). Mary Griffith who married William > >Willett might be the daughter of William Griffith and Comfort Duval since he > >was the first Griffith to settle in a portion of Prince Georges County. > > > >There is no mention of William Willett in this book. Let me also add that > >my husband descends from Orlando Griffith (son of William and Sarah Maccubin > >Griffith) and his wife Katherine Howard. > > > >Hope this helps some. > >Best Regards, > > > >Joanna Smith Dunn > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Gordon Bonnet [mailto:jaggy227@fltg.net] > >Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 7:58 PM > >To: GRIFFITH-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: [GRIFFITH] Mary Griffith m. William Willett (1700s, MD) > > > > > >Hi.... > > > > > > > >>Don't rule out that time period between generations, as that > >>Griffith/Maccubbin had several generations out of whack. A bit more > >>distance than usual. > >> > >> > >> > >It seems like there are too few generations. Mary Griffith's eldest > >child (Elizabeth) was born in 1738. This puts her Mary's birthdate as > >1720 at the latest. I've seen Mary listed as the daughter of either > >George or John Griffith -- whichever it was, he'd have to have been born > >ca. 1700. William and Sarah (MacCubbin) Griffith only had four > >children, all born between 1691 and 1697, so the Griffith/MacCubbin > >children would be contemporaries of John and/or George, not their > >parents. Of course it's possible (likely, perhaps) that neither John > >nor George were Mary's father -- I've seen no primary documentation of > >either -- but that still doesn't leave the door open to connect to the > >Griffith/MacCubbin kids, as to my knowledge none of them had a daughter > >Mary. > > > >One question, however -- I have (possibly?) incomplete information on > >two of the Griffith/MacCubbin kids -- I have no children for Charles > >Griffith by his first wife, Mary Wolden (perhaps they had none?) nor any > >children at all for William Griffith who m. Comfort Duvall. Did either > >of these marriages produce children? Could Mary have been a daughter of > >either Charles or William? > > > > > > > >> What did they name their children? That will give > >>you a clue if she is from that line, the same names were used > >>continuously, and even though the fathers always liked to name after > >>their side, the wives got their family names in as well. > >> > >> > >> > >Mary Griffith & William Willett had 13 kids -- in order, Elizabeth, > >Edward, William, Verlinda, Jemima, Griffith, Tabitha, Samuel, George, > >John, Mary, Rachael, and James. Of these, Edward, Tabitha, and William > >are definitely from the Willett side. Rachael, Verlinda, and Jemima > >seem like the odd ones, but I don't see those in the Griffith/MacCubbin > >crew, either. > > > > > > > >> I checked some of my books rather > >>quickly and the Willetts are there, and the wife is Mary, but when I > >>have more time I will check further. Names of the children will help > >>determine that particular line. > >> > >> > >> > >I'd be very interested to hear what you think about all this! Mary > >Griffith has eluded me for years -- it'd be great to figure out her line. > > > >cheers, > > > >Gordon > > > > > > > >==== GRIFFITH Mailing List ==== > >Flame wars will not be tolerated on this list. > > > >============================== > >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > >==== GRIFFITH Mailing List ==== > >No Advertising on this list, no rude remarks, no chain letters, no virus warnings! > > > >============================== > >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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The original spelling of Griffith is Gryffudd/Gryfudd. In the Welsh language the dd is pronounced th. Your information sounds fascinating, Norma. There is a line that settled in Pa in the 1600/1700 that does descend from the last Prince of Wales, possibly some of those are yours. Leah ----- Original Message ----- From: Norma Leibold <nel.127@cox.net> To: <GRIFFITH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [GRIFFITH] Mary Griffith m. William Willett (1700s, MD) > My ancestors came from Scotland and originated in Wales. There is a family > tree of the Griffiths (original spelling of surname) for my ancestors but it > was lost some 80/90 years ago. But family folk lore tells that our line > descended from the Kings and Queens in the 1200's in Wales. There is > supposed to be a crest and tartan, however I have been unable to verify this > and have been unable to locate the family before 1799. My 2g grandparents > came from Ayr, Scotland and immigrated to Pa. ca. 1840's. I have the names > of all the siblings born in Scotland but have been unable to locate all of > them. The men all were miners in Schuylkill Co., and Northumberland Co.,Pa. > I am willing to share what ever info I have compiled with anyone connected > with my line. > Norma > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jan Griffith" <jagriffith1@earthlink.net> > To: <GRIFFITH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 4:43 PM > Subject: Re: [GRIFFITH] Mary Griffith m. William Willett (1700s, MD) > > > > The Griffith's of Wales and America has Griffith people living in Mayfield > > KY now. it was wrote by Laura Griffith. If i remember right it was > Griffith > > from Wales who came to America and heads up her clan. his brother john > > Griffith heads up my clan in America.. > > > > > > > [Original Message] > > > From: Happy Texan <ldavis@lcc.net> > > > To: <GRIFFITH-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Date: 5/12/2004 3:11:22 PM > > > Subject: Re: [GRIFFITH] Mary Griffith m. William Willett (1700s, MD) > > > > > > Lynn, (my middle name) There are several Griffith Books, one being by R. > > R. > > > Ridgley, which probably has that line. The Griffiths I have in Virginia > > > scattered all over Tn, Ky, etc. There is also a book by a lady whose > > name I > > > can't recall right off, but she has a collection of Griffiths, though > not > > in > > > any organized order, things on Griffiths folks sent to her. Have you > > seen > > > any of these? > > > Mine is the Griffith/Maccubbin line, and it seems they vanish as I try > to > > > get them 'across the pond'. Anyone have further info on these? Leah > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Lynn Ester" <griffith851@hotmail.com> > > > To: <GRIFFITH-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 11:35 AM > > > Subject: Re: [GRIFFITH] Mary Griffith m. William Willett (1700s, MD) > > > > > > > > > > Do you know which line came to NC? I have a William Griffith in Surry, > > > > Stokes and Forsyth Counties in NC (about 1780) that I am unable to > trace > > > > back any further. His wife was named Susannah (Waggoner by > tradition-no > > > > verification). Any help would be appreciated. > > > > > > > > Lynn Ester > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Happy Texan" <ldavis@lcc.net> > > > > >Reply-To: GRIFFITH-L@rootsweb.com > > > > >To: GRIFFITH-L@rootsweb.com > > > > >Subject: Re: [GRIFFITH] Mary Griffith m. William Willett (1700s, MD) > > > > >Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 20:18:20 -0500 > > > > > > > > > >Don't rule out that time period between generations, as that > > > > >Griffith/Maccubbin had several generations out of whack. A bit more > > > > >distance than usual. What did they name their children? That will > > give > > > > >you a clue if she is from that line, the same names were used > > > continuously, > > > > >and even though the fathers always liked to name after their side, > the > > > > >wives > > > > >got their family names in as well. I checked some of my books rather > > > > >quickly and the Willetts are there, and the wife is Mary, but when I > > have > > > > >more time I will check further. Names of the children will help > > > determine > > > > >that particular line. Some of this G/M line went to N.C. There is > > also > > > a > > > > >line of Griffiths in Pa., separate family from the G/Maccubbin bunch. > > > Leah > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > >From: Gordon Bonnet <jaggy227@fltg.net> > > > > >To: <GRIFFITH-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > >Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2004 7:52 PM > > > > >Subject: [GRIFFITH] Mary Griffith m. William Willett (1700s, MD) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm looking for any documentation of the origins of Mary Griffith, > > b. > > > > > > ca. 1710 probably in Maryland, who married William Willett. > > > References > > > > > > differ as to her origin, and no one seems to have much primary > > > > > > documentation on her. I've seen her listed as the child of George > > > > > > Griffith, b. late 1600's, d. 1756 in Dorchester Co. MD; others say > > she > > > > > > is the child of John and Mary (Stevens) Griffith. > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't have any further information on either George or John's > > family > > > > > > which might help narrow the search. One piece of information > which > > > > > > would argue against the "George hypothesis" is that in George > > > Griffith's > > > > > > will, 1756, his daughter Mary is still called "Mary Griffith" and > > not > > > by > > > > > > what would be her married name of Willett -- Mary (Griffith) > Willett > > > > > > was married in the 1730's. This would seem to indicate that > > George's > > > > > > daughter Mary is not the Mary Griffith who married William > Willett. > > > > > > > > > > > > Some sources indicate that the John Griffith who married Mary > > Stevens > > > is > > > > > > of the William Griffith/Sarah MacCubbin line, but this seems > > > unlikely -- > > > > > > there isn't enough time between William Griffith and Mary > (Griffith) > > > > > > Willett to fit in the required number of generations. > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, any help would be greatly appreciated. I'm happy to send > > more > > > > > > details on any of this information if anyone's interested. > > > > > > > > > > > > cheers, > > > > > > > > > > > > Gordon Bonnet > > > > > > Trumansburg NY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== GRIFFITH Mailing List ==== > > > > > > No Advertising on this list, no rude remarks, no chain letters, no > > > virus > > > > >warnings! > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new > Immigration > > > > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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Hi Joanna, This was very helpful -- thanks. I wish I could find _any_ connection between Mary (Griffith) Willett and the Griffith/MacCubbin crew - so far, there doesn't seem to be anything, even anything circumstantial, to connect them. No common names on wills, or anything. It'd be great if Mary turned out to be an unaccounted-for daughter of William and Comfort -- it'd be nice if it was that easy.... Thanks again for your information. cheers, Gordon Joanna Dunn wrote: >HI All, > >I have the book, ANNE ARUNDEL GENTRY by Harry Wright Newman; Maryland >Pioneer Press, 1933. > >On page 179, he says: > >Charles Griffith, son of William and Sarah Maccubin Griffith was born on >January 20, 1693, in St. Ann's Parish, Anne Arundel County. He married >first Mary Wolden Mercer. She had previously married on June 17, 1713, >Jacob Mercer. > >Children of Charles and Mary Wolden Griffith: > >1. William Griffith, b. 1718, married Priscilla Ridgely. >2. Charles Griffith, born 1719,married Ann Davadige >3. Mary Griffith, born 1721, married Joseph White, Mar. 4, 1738. > >His wife departed on February 18, 1721, and he married secondly in 1727 >Catherine, born 1705, the daughter of John and Hester Larkin Baldwin. > >Children of Charles and Caterine Baldwin Griffith >4. John Griffith married widow of Benjamin Williams, d.s.p. 1774, naming his >nephew John G. Worthington, nieces Catherine and Elizabeth Worthington, and >brother-in-law Nicholas Worthington. > >5. Sarah Griffith married Feb. 26 1751, Azel, (born Apr. 3, 1726) son of >Alexander and Dinah Davidge Warfield. > >6. Catherine Griffith married Nocholas Worthington. > >[The Author states on page 180 that:] >This information is taken from his (Charles') remarkable "pocket book" which >fortunately has been handed down to the present generation. > >Also, according to this same book on page 184: > >William Griffith, son of William and Sarah Maccubin Griffith, was born April >15, 1697, in St. Ann's Parish, Anne Arundel County. He married Comfort, >born March 17,1700, the daughter of John and Elizabeth (Jones) Duval. > >Children of William and Comfort Duval Griffith: >1. Ezekiel Griffith, born 1720, died young. >2. Orlando Griffith married Elizabeth >3. William Griffith married Sarah Reynolds, widow. > >William Griffith settled early in the western portion of Prince Georges >County near Catocin Mountain before that section was organized into >Frederick County. At the establishment of that county in 1748, he was >commissioned one of the first justices of the peace and continued to serve >in that capacity until his death in Frederick County during 1757. > >Also according to this book, Orlando [William and Comfort Duval Griffith] >Griffith's son John Griffith was born July 20, 1770 in Frederick County, >Maryland. In 1806 with his brother, Chisholm, he removed to North Carolina. >There in 1820 he married Nancy Agnes (Dobson) Young, born March 8, 1780, the >daughter of Captain Joseph Dobson of the Revolutionary Army. > >Children of John and Nancy Agnes Dobson Griffith: > >1. John Orlando Griffith, born June 1, 1821, married Sept. 27, 1854, Sarah >Catherine Higgins; resided at Micaville, NC. > >John Griffith died November 12, 1853, his widow on September 5, 1860. > >[This is a North Carolina connection that someone else in this thread was >looking for. This John Griffith would be the Gr-grandson of William and >Sarah Maccubin Griffith]. > >Now, in my opinion (Joanna speaking now). Mary Griffith who married William >Willett might be the daughter of William Griffith and Comfort Duval since he >was the first Griffith to settle in a portion of Prince Georges County. > >There is no mention of William Willett in this book. Let me also add that >my husband descends from Orlando Griffith (son of William and Sarah Maccubin >Griffith) and his wife Katherine Howard. > >Hope this helps some. >Best Regards, > >Joanna Smith Dunn > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Gordon Bonnet [mailto:jaggy227@fltg.net] >Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 7:58 PM >To: GRIFFITH-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [GRIFFITH] Mary Griffith m. William Willett (1700s, MD) > > >Hi.... > > > >>Don't rule out that time period between generations, as that >>Griffith/Maccubbin had several generations out of whack. A bit more >>distance than usual. >> >> >> >It seems like there are too few generations. Mary Griffith's eldest >child (Elizabeth) was born in 1738. This puts her Mary's birthdate as >1720 at the latest. I've seen Mary listed as the daughter of either >George or John Griffith -- whichever it was, he'd have to have been born >ca. 1700. William and Sarah (MacCubbin) Griffith only had four >children, all born between 1691 and 1697, so the Griffith/MacCubbin >children would be contemporaries of John and/or George, not their >parents. Of course it's possible (likely, perhaps) that neither John >nor George were Mary's father -- I've seen no primary documentation of >either -- but that still doesn't leave the door open to connect to the >Griffith/MacCubbin kids, as to my knowledge none of them had a daughter >Mary. > >One question, however -- I have (possibly?) incomplete information on >two of the Griffith/MacCubbin kids -- I have no children for Charles >Griffith by his first wife, Mary Wolden (perhaps they had none?) nor any >children at all for William Griffith who m. Comfort Duvall. Did either >of these marriages produce children? Could Mary have been a daughter of >either Charles or William? > > > >> What did they name their children? That will give >>you a clue if she is from that line, the same names were used >>continuously, and even though the fathers always liked to name after >>their side, the wives got their family names in as well. >> >> >> >Mary Griffith & William Willett had 13 kids -- in order, Elizabeth, >Edward, William, Verlinda, Jemima, Griffith, Tabitha, Samuel, George, >John, Mary, Rachael, and James. Of these, Edward, Tabitha, and William >are definitely from the Willett side. Rachael, Verlinda, and Jemima >seem like the odd ones, but I don't see those in the Griffith/MacCubbin >crew, either. > > > >> I checked some of my books rather >>quickly and the Willetts are there, and the wife is Mary, but when I >>have more time I will check further. Names of the children will help >>determine that particular line. >> >> >> >I'd be very interested to hear what you think about all this! Mary >Griffith has eluded me for years -- it'd be great to figure out her line. > >cheers, > >Gordon > > > >==== GRIFFITH Mailing List ==== >Flame wars will not be tolerated on this list. > >============================== >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > >==== GRIFFITH Mailing List ==== >No Advertising on this list, no rude remarks, no chain letters, no virus warnings! > >============================== >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > >

My ancestors came from Scotland and originated in Wales. There is a family tree of the Griffiths (original spelling of surname) for my ancestors but it was lost some 80/90 years ago. But family folk lore tells that our line descended from the Kings and Queens in the 1200's in Wales. There is supposed to be a crest and tartan, however I have been unable to verify this and have been unable to locate the family before 1799. My 2g grandparents came from Ayr, Scotland and immigrated to Pa. ca. 1840's. I have the names of all the siblings born in Scotland but have been unable to locate all of them. The men all were miners in Schuylkill Co., and Northumberland Co.,Pa. I am willing to share what ever info I have compiled with anyone connected with my line. Norma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Griffith" <jagriffith1@earthlink.net> To: <GRIFFITH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [GRIFFITH] Mary Griffith m. William Willett (1700s, MD) > The Griffith's of Wales and America has Griffith people living in Mayfield > KY now. it was wrote by Laura Griffith. If i remember right it was Griffith > from Wales who came to America and heads up her clan. his brother john > Griffith heads up my clan in America.. > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Happy Texan <ldavis@lcc.net> > > To: <GRIFFITH-L@rootsweb.com> > > Date: 5/12/2004 3:11:22 PM > > Subject: Re: [GRIFFITH] Mary Griffith m. William Willett (1700s, MD) > > > > Lynn, (my middle name) There are several Griffith Books, one being by R. > R. > > Ridgley, which probably has that line. The Griffiths I have in Virginia > > scattered all over Tn, Ky, etc. There is also a book by a lady whose > name I > > can't recall right off, but she has a collection of Griffiths, though not > in > > any organized order, things on Griffiths folks sent to her. Have you > seen > > any of these? > > Mine is the Griffith/Maccubbin line, and it seems they vanish as I try to > > get them 'across the pond'. Anyone have further info on these? Leah > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Lynn Ester" <griffith851@hotmail.com> > > To: <GRIFFITH-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 11:35 AM > > Subject: Re: [GRIFFITH] Mary Griffith m. William Willett (1700s, MD) > > > > > > > Do you know which line came to NC? I have a William Griffith in Surry, > > > Stokes and Forsyth Counties in NC (about 1780) that I am unable to trace > > > back any further. His wife was named Susannah (Waggoner by tradition-no > > > verification). Any help would be appreciated. > > > > > > Lynn Ester > > > > > > > > > >From: "Happy Texan" <ldavis@lcc.net> > > > >Reply-To: GRIFFITH-L@rootsweb.com > > > >To: GRIFFITH-L@rootsweb.com > > > >Subject: Re: [GRIFFITH] Mary Griffith m. William Willett (1700s, MD) > > > >Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 20:18:20 -0500 > > > > > > > >Don't rule out that time period between generations, as that > > > >Griffith/Maccubbin had several generations out of whack. A bit more > > > >distance than usual. What did they name their children? That will > give > > > >you a clue if she is from that line, the same names were used > > continuously, > > > >and even though the fathers always liked to name after their side, the > > > >wives > > > >got their family names in as well. I checked some of my books rather > > > >quickly and the Willetts are there, and the wife is Mary, but when I > have > > > >more time I will check further. Names of the children will help > > determine > > > >that particular line. Some of this G/M line went to N.C. There is > also > > a > > > >line of Griffiths in Pa., separate family from the G/Maccubbin bunch. > > Leah > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: Gordon Bonnet <jaggy227@fltg.net> > > > >To: <GRIFFITH-L@rootsweb.com> > > > >Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2004 7:52 PM > > > >Subject: [GRIFFITH] Mary Griffith m. William Willett (1700s, MD) > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > I'm looking for any documentation of the origins of Mary Griffith, > b. > > > > > ca. 1710 probably in Maryland, who married William Willett. > > References > > > > > differ as to her origin, and no one seems to have much primary > > > > > documentation on her. I've seen her listed as the child of George > > > > > Griffith, b. late 1600's, d. 1756 in Dorchester Co. MD; others say > she > > > > > is the child of John and Mary (Stevens) Griffith. > > > > > > > > > > I don't have any further information on either George or John's > family > > > > > which might help narrow the search. One piece of information which > > > > > would argue against the "George hypothesis" is that in George > > Griffith's > > > > > will, 1756, his daughter Mary is still called "Mary Griffith" and > not > > by > > > > > what would be her married name of Willett -- Mary (Griffith) Willett > > > > > was married in the 1730's. This would seem to indicate that > George's > > > > > daughter Mary is not the Mary Griffith who married William Willett. > > > > > > > > > > Some sources indicate that the John Griffith who married Mary > Stevens > > is > > > > > of the William Griffith/Sarah MacCubbin line, but this seems > > unlikely -- > > > > > there isn't enough time between William Griffith and Mary (Griffith) > > > > > Willett to fit in the required number of generations. > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, any help would be greatly appreciated. I'm happy to send > more > > > > > details on any of this information if anyone's interested. > > > > > > > > > > cheers, > > > > > > > > > > Gordon Bonnet > > > > > Trumansburg NY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== GRIFFITH Mailing List ==== > > > > > No Advertising on this list, no rude remarks, no chain letters, no > > virus > > > >warnings! > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== GRIFFITH Mailing List ==== > > > >No Advertising on this list, no rude remarks, no chain letters, no > virus > > > >warnings! > > > > > > > >============================== > > > >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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HI All, I have the book, ANNE ARUNDEL GENTRY by Harry Wright Newman; Maryland Pioneer Press, 1933. On page 179, he says: Charles Griffith, son of William and Sarah Maccubin Griffith was born on January 20, 1693, in St. Ann's Parish, Anne Arundel County. He married first Mary Wolden Mercer. She had previously married on June 17, 1713, Jacob Mercer. Children of Charles and Mary Wolden Griffith: 1. William Griffith, b. 1718, married Priscilla Ridgely. 2. Charles Griffith, born 1719,married Ann Davadige 3. Mary Griffith, born 1721, married Joseph White, Mar. 4, 1738. His wife departed on February 18, 1721, and he married secondly in 1727 Catherine, born 1705, the daughter of John and Hester Larkin Baldwin. Children of Charles and Caterine Baldwin Griffith 4. John Griffith married widow of Benjamin Williams, d.s.p. 1774, naming his nephew John G. Worthington, nieces Catherine and Elizabeth Worthington, and brother-in-law Nicholas Worthington. 5. Sarah Griffith married Feb. 26 1751, Azel, (born Apr. 3, 1726) son of Alexander and Dinah Davidge Warfield. 6. Catherine Griffith married Nocholas Worthington. [The Author states on page 180 that:] This information is taken from his (Charles') remarkable "pocket book" which fortunately has been handed down to the present generation. Also, according to this same book on page 184: William Griffith, son of William and Sarah Maccubin Griffith, was born April 15, 1697, in St. Ann's Parish, Anne Arundel County. He married Comfort, born March 17,1700, the daughter of John and Elizabeth (Jones) Duval. Children of William and Comfort Duval Griffith: 1. Ezekiel Griffith, born 1720, died young. 2. Orlando Griffith married Elizabeth 3. William Griffith married Sarah Reynolds, widow. William Griffith settled early in the western portion of Prince Georges County near Catocin Mountain before that section was organized into Frederick County. At the establishment of that county in 1748, he was commissioned one of the first justices of the peace and continued to serve in that capacity until his death in Frederick County during 1757. Also according to this book, Orlando [William and Comfort Duval Griffith] Griffith's son John Griffith was born July 20, 1770 in Frederick County, Maryland. In 1806 with his brother, Chisholm, he removed to North Carolina. There in 1820 he married Nancy Agnes (Dobson) Young, born March 8, 1780, the daughter of Captain Joseph Dobson of the Revolutionary Army. Children of John and Nancy Agnes Dobson Griffith: 1. John Orlando Griffith, born June 1, 1821, married Sept. 27, 1854, Sarah Catherine Higgins; resided at Micaville, NC. John Griffith died November 12, 1853, his widow on September 5, 1860. [This is a North Carolina connection that someone else in this thread was looking for. This John Griffith would be the Gr-grandson of William and Sarah Maccubin Griffith]. Now, in my opinion (Joanna speaking now). Mary Griffith who married William Willett might be the daughter of William Griffith and Comfort Duval since he was the first Griffith to settle in a portion of Prince Georges County. There is no mention of William Willett in this book. Let me also add that my husband descends from Orlando Griffith (son of William and Sarah Maccubin Griffith) and his wife Katherine Howard. Hope this helps some. Best Regards, Joanna Smith Dunn -----Original Message----- From: Gordon Bonnet [mailto:jaggy227@fltg.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 7:58 PM To: GRIFFITH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GRIFFITH] Mary Griffith m. William Willett (1700s, MD) Hi.... >Don't rule out that time period between generations, as that >Griffith/Maccubbin had several generations out of whack. A bit more >distance than usual. > It seems like there are too few generations. Mary Griffith's eldest child (Elizabeth) was born in 1738. This puts her Mary's birthdate as 1720 at the latest. I've seen Mary listed as the daughter of either George or John Griffith -- whichever it was, he'd have to have been born ca. 1700. William and Sarah (MacCubbin) Griffith only had four children, all born between 1691 and 1697, so the Griffith/MacCubbin children would be contemporaries of John and/or George, not their parents. Of course it's possible (likely, perhaps) that neither John nor George were Mary's father -- I've seen no primary documentation of either -- but that still doesn't leave the door open to connect to the Griffith/MacCubbin kids, as to my knowledge none of them had a daughter Mary. One question, however -- I have (possibly?) incomplete information on two of the Griffith/MacCubbin kids -- I have no children for Charles Griffith by his first wife, Mary Wolden (perhaps they had none?) nor any children at all for William Griffith who m. Comfort Duvall. Did either of these marriages produce children? Could Mary have been a daughter of either Charles or William? > What did they name their children? That will give >you a clue if she is from that line, the same names were used >continuously, and even though the fathers always liked to name after >their side, the wives got their family names in as well. > Mary Griffith & William Willett had 13 kids -- in order, Elizabeth, Edward, William, Verlinda, Jemima, Griffith, Tabitha, Samuel, George, John, Mary, Rachael, and James. Of these, Edward, Tabitha, and William are definitely from the Willett side. Rachael, Verlinda, and Jemima seem like the odd ones, but I don't see those in the Griffith/MacCubbin crew, either. > I checked some of my books rather >quickly and the Willetts are there, and the wife is Mary, but when I >have more time I will check further. Names of the children will help >determine that particular line. > I'd be very interested to hear what you think about all this! Mary Griffith has eluded me for years -- it'd be great to figure out her line. cheers, Gordon ==== GRIFFITH Mailing List ==== Flame wars will not be tolerated on this list. ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Seeking parents and places of birth of John and Catharine Griffith. He first appeared on Shenandoah County, Virginia Personal Property Tax Lists in 1785. He and his son-in-law, John Valentine (m. Mary Griffith), jointly purchased a tract of land on Hawksbill Creek in 1786. He later bought property on Dry Run, where he died in 1820 and Catharine in 1824. These two tracts were located in present-day Page County, which was formed from parts of Shenandoah and Rockingham Counties in 1831. Besides Mary, other children were David, John, William, Sally, Rachel (m. Rickabaugh), Nancy, Ellen and Catharine. John and Catharine Griffith may have arrived in Shenandoah County from either Maryland or Pennsylvania possibly via Frederick County, Virginia. Joe Baker

Yes, Capt. William, and Comfort Duvall had children, but only three. The first died, then Orlando and William, a much younger brother. William (who married Sarah Reynolds) is my line, he moved to VA with Sarah and had a bunch of kids, named two of them William and Orlando, and did name a daughter Elizabeth. Orlando stayed in MD, and had a bunch as well. The 'Orlando' seems to hit most every generation, thought you might have one of those. There are other Griffiths in MD that were there early on and had a grants of land, not my line, but ran across them often. There are also lots of Griffiths in Pa., which at one point was, more or less, part of MD., until the Mason Dixon line was surveyed. Will check what info I have to see if I can help. I haven't really concentrated on this line for some time, have you checked all of Elise Greenup Jordan's books? I have a few, but not all, and I came up empty in those. That series is on southern Maryland families, and wouldn't have those in the Pa or Kent Co area. The Griffith book by Anna Laura Griffith comes up with a Paul Willett, (and none of the 'odd children's names') The Church Records of Anne Arundel County Md., comes up with nothing. Together with several other books that I checked, I've exhausted my Library, and haven't been able to find a thing of use....gee, I had hoped. Leah ----- Original Message ----- From: Gordon Bonnet <jaggy227@fltg.net> To: <GRIFFITH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 7:58 PM Subject: Re: [GRIFFITH] Mary Griffith m. William Willett (1700s, MD) > Hi.... > > >Don't rule out that time period between generations, as that > >Griffith/Maccubbin had several generations out of whack. A bit more > >distance than usual. > > > It seems like there are too few generations. Mary Griffith's eldest > child (Elizabeth) was born in 1738. This puts her Mary's birthdate as > 1720 at the latest. I've seen Mary listed as the daughter of either > George or John Griffith -- whichever it was, he'd have to have been born > ca. 1700. William and Sarah (MacCubbin) Griffith only had four > children, all born between 1691 and 1697, so the Griffith/MacCubbin > children would be contemporaries of John and/or George, not their > parents. Of course it's possible (likely, perhaps) that neither John > nor George were Mary's father -- I've seen no primary documentation of > either -- but that still doesn't leave the door open to connect to the > Griffith/MacCubbin kids, as to my knowledge none of them had a daughter > Mary. > > One question, however -- I have (possibly?) incomplete information on > two of the Griffith/MacCubbin kids -- I have no children for Charles > Griffith by his first wife, Mary Wolden (perhaps they had none?) nor any > children at all for William Griffith who m. Comfort Duvall. Did either > of these marriages produce children? Could Mary have been a daughter of > either Charles or William? > > > What did they name their children? That will give > >you a clue if she is from that line, the same names were used continuously, > >and even though the fathers always liked to name after their side, the wives > >got their family names in as well. > > > Mary Griffith & William Willett had 13 kids -- in order, Elizabeth, > Edward, William, Verlinda, Jemima, Griffith, Tabitha, Samuel, George, > John, Mary, Rachael, and James. Of these, Edward, Tabitha, and William > are definitely from the Willett side. Rachael, Verlinda, and Jemima > seem like the odd ones, but I don't see those in the Griffith/MacCubbin > crew, either. > > > I checked some of my books rather > >quickly and the Willetts are there, and the wife is Mary, but when I have > >more time I will check further. Names of the children will help determine > >that particular line. > > > I'd be very interested to hear what you think about all this! Mary > Griffith has eluded me for years -- it'd be great to figure out her line. > > cheers, > > Gordon > > > > ==== GRIFFITH Mailing List ==== > Flame wars will not be tolerated on this list. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

In a message dated 5/12/2004 jford511@swbell.net writes: > I have Evan Griffith b abt 1793 in NC, married Elizabeth and had > daughter Elizabeth born there in 1821 and son John in 1827. They moved > first to TN around 1830 and had sons Daniel b 1833, son Amos b 1836 and then > on to Texas around 1840. I have all this from later census records and > haven't found anything on Evan in NC or TN. Does this fit in with your NC > Griffiths? > I have this one, any connection? Descendants of John Griffith 1 John GRIFFITH b: in Maryland .. +UNKNOWN b: in Maryland 2 Daniel Henry? GRIFFITH b: Bet. 1813 - 1815 in North Carolina d: 1886 in Collin Co., TX .... +Ann Eliza TROTTER b: Bet. 1814 - 1818 in North Carolina m: 26 March 1833 in Guilford Co., NC d: Aft. 1880 in Texas Father: James TROTTER Mother: Susannah MILLIS Thanks for writing, Sandy in Florida I will gladly exchange family history if you will do the same. Please do not send jokes, virus warnings, chain letters or attachments.

Hi.... >Don't rule out that time period between generations, as that >Griffith/Maccubbin had several generations out of whack. A bit more >distance than usual. > It seems like there are too few generations. Mary Griffith's eldest child (Elizabeth) was born in 1738. This puts her Mary's birthdate as 1720 at the latest. I've seen Mary listed as the daughter of either George or John Griffith -- whichever it was, he'd have to have been born ca. 1700. William and Sarah (MacCubbin) Griffith only had four children, all born between 1691 and 1697, so the Griffith/MacCubbin children would be contemporaries of John and/or George, not their parents. Of course it's possible (likely, perhaps) that neither John nor George were Mary's father -- I've seen no primary documentation of either -- but that still doesn't leave the door open to connect to the Griffith/MacCubbin kids, as to my knowledge none of them had a daughter Mary. One question, however -- I have (possibly?) incomplete information on two of the Griffith/MacCubbin kids -- I have no children for Charles Griffith by his first wife, Mary Wolden (perhaps they had none?) nor any children at all for William Griffith who m. Comfort Duvall. Did either of these marriages produce children? Could Mary have been a daughter of either Charles or William? > What did they name their children? That will give >you a clue if she is from that line, the same names were used continuously, >and even though the fathers always liked to name after their side, the wives >got their family names in as well. > Mary Griffith & William Willett had 13 kids -- in order, Elizabeth, Edward, William, Verlinda, Jemima, Griffith, Tabitha, Samuel, George, John, Mary, Rachael, and James. Of these, Edward, Tabitha, and William are definitely from the Willett side. Rachael, Verlinda, and Jemima seem like the odd ones, but I don't see those in the Griffith/MacCubbin crew, either. > I checked some of my books rather >quickly and the Willetts are there, and the wife is Mary, but when I have >more time I will check further. Names of the children will help determine >that particular line. > I'd be very interested to hear what you think about all this! Mary Griffith has eluded me for years -- it'd be great to figure out her line. cheers, Gordon

The Griffith's of Wales and America has Griffith people living in Mayfield KY now. it was wrote by Laura Griffith. If i remember right it was Griffith from Wales who came to America and heads up her clan. his brother john Griffith heads up my clan in America.. > [Original Message] > From: Happy Texan <ldavis@lcc.net> > To: <GRIFFITH-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 5/12/2004 3:11:22 PM > Subject: Re: [GRIFFITH] Mary Griffith m. William Willett (1700s, MD) > > Lynn, (my middle name) There are several Griffith Books, one being by R. R. > Ridgley, which probably has that line. The Griffiths I have in Virginia > scattered all over Tn, Ky, etc. There is also a book by a lady whose name I > can't recall right off, but she has a collection of Griffiths, though not in > any organized order, things on Griffiths folks sent to her. Have you seen > any of these? > Mine is the Griffith/Maccubbin line, and it seems they vanish as I try to > get them 'across the pond'. Anyone have further info on these? Leah > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lynn Ester" <griffith851@hotmail.com> > To: <GRIFFITH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 11:35 AM > Subject: Re: [GRIFFITH] Mary Griffith m. William Willett (1700s, MD) > > > > Do you know which line came to NC? I have a William Griffith in Surry, > > Stokes and Forsyth Counties in NC (about 1780) that I am unable to trace > > back any further. His wife was named Susannah (Waggoner by tradition-no > > verification). Any help would be appreciated. > > > > Lynn Ester > > > > > > >From: "Happy Texan" <ldavis@lcc.net> > > >Reply-To: GRIFFITH-L@rootsweb.com > > >To: GRIFFITH-L@rootsweb.com > > >Subject: Re: [GRIFFITH] Mary Griffith m. William Willett (1700s, MD) > > >Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 20:18:20 -0500 > > > > > >Don't rule out that time period between generations, as that > > >Griffith/Maccubbin had several generations out of whack. A bit more > > >distance than usual. What did they name their children? That will give > > >you a clue if she is from that line, the same names were used > continuously, > > >and even though the fathers always liked to name after their side, the > > >wives > > >got their family names in as well. I checked some of my books rather > > >quickly and the Willetts are there, and the wife is Mary, but when I have > > >more time I will check further. Names of the children will help > determine > > >that particular line. Some of this G/M line went to N.C. There is also > a > > >line of Griffiths in Pa., separate family from the G/Maccubbin bunch. > Leah > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: Gordon Bonnet <jaggy227@fltg.net> > > >To: <GRIFFITH-L@rootsweb.com> > > >Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2004 7:52 PM > > >Subject: [GRIFFITH] Mary Griffith m. William Willett (1700s, MD) > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > I'm looking for any documentation of the origins of Mary Griffith, b. > > > > ca. 1710 probably in Maryland, who married William Willett. > References > > > > differ as to her origin, and no one seems to have much primary > > > > documentation on her. I've seen her listed as the child of George > > > > Griffith, b. late 1600's, d. 1756 in Dorchester Co. MD; others say she > > > > is the child of John and Mary (Stevens) Griffith. > > > > > > > > I don't have any further information on either George or John's family > > > > which might help narrow the search. One piece of information which > > > > would argue against the "George hypothesis" is that in George > Griffith's > > > > will, 1756, his daughter Mary is still called "Mary Griffith" and not > by > > > > what would be her married name of Willett -- Mary (Griffith) Willett > > > > was married in the 1730's. This would seem to indicate that George's > > > > daughter Mary is not the Mary Griffith who married William Willett. > > > > > > > > Some sources indicate that the John Griffith who married Mary Stevens > is > > > > of the William Griffith/Sarah MacCubbin line, but this seems > unlikely -- > > > > there isn't enough time between William Griffith and Mary (Griffith) > > > > Willett to fit in the required number of generations. > > > > > > > > Anyway, any help would be greatly appreciated. I'm happy to send more > > > > details on any of this information if anyone's interested. > > > > > > > > cheers, > > > > > > > > Gordon Bonnet > > > > Trumansburg NY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== GRIFFITH Mailing List ==== > > > > No Advertising on this list, no rude remarks, no chain letters, no > virus > > >warnings! > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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