This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: laurajones0035 Surnames: Griffin, Malone, Thomas, Browning, Brannan, Lewis, George Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.griffin/87.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The info I have on Phillip Griffin is as follows: Samuel Griffin, Jr. b.c. 1760, d. 1809 Baldwin Co. Al. Served in the Minute Battalion in Ga. 6/3/1777-3/1/1778 although he was not a resident of Ga. prior to the enlistment. This was verified by Executive Dept. of the State of Ga., Milledgeville, Ga 8/30/1855, claim # R4309 Immigrated to Baldwin Co., Tensaw, Settlement, Al. 1792. Married 7/15/1785 Burke Co., Ga. Elizabeth Bruner, b. c. 1768-d. 9/14/1853 Rankin Co.Ms. age. about 85. Samuel's father was Samuel B. Griffin b. 1729, lived In Orangeburg Co., Ga. My ties with the Griffin's are with Samuel Griffin's, Jr., daughter Nancy Ann Griffin b. abt. 1819, Ga., married Ivey Malone, b. abt. 1775, Va., d. 1847 (1841) Al. The info I have on Phillip Bruner E. Griffin, b. Spanish Territory, 1795, Reside in Clarke Co., Ms. in 1850. Married Elizabeth McInnis b. 1798, S.C. Her father was John McInnis. Phillip had the following siblings: John Griffin b. 10/13/1789, Burke Co., Ga, m. Harriet Elizabeth Conners, b/ 9/25/1793, Montgomery Co., Ga. Her father was Wilson Conners, mother was Mary Ann "Polly" Cook" They had eight children. Lucy Griffin, b. 1805, Resides in Jackson Co., Ms. in 1855, married, John Bowen, d. before 1850 Martha Patsy Griffin, resides in Mobile Co., Al., in 1855. Married Joseph G. Meeker d. before 1850 Mary (Polly) Griffin, b. 1803, Resides in Rankin Co., Ms. in 1860. Married, Edward W. Feltz (Felps), died before 1850 Had 10 children Hannah Griffin, b 1790/1800, d. 1831/1853, married twice Nancy Ann Griffin d. about 1819, Ga. Married Ivey Malone, b. abt. 1775, Va., d. 1847 (18410 Al. They had seven children. There were two other Malone sisters who married into my family. I have a copy of the Last Will and Testament of Samuel Griffin dated the 26th day of November 1809. Also a copy of of an affiants swearing that James G. Griffin was the son of Samuel Griffin dated Feb. 14, 1857. Also a copy of Philip Bruner E. B. Griffin, stating he was the administrator of the estate of Elizabeth Griffin estate. If you would like copies of these I would be happy to send them to you. You can email me at laurajones0035@comcast.net Any information of mine that you might find wrong please let me know. Hope the information I'm sending is a help to you. Laura Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: t42MountOlivet Surnames: GRIFFIN Classification: cemetery Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.griffin/6627/mb.ashx Message Board Post: GRIFFIN George G and Gwendolyn T I photographed this gravestone in the Mount Olivet Cemetery, Fort Worth, Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 206,349 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com If you know more about this person please reply here instead of contacting me because this is most likely not my family. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Cathy Abernathy, I don't know if my Griffins are any relation to yours, but your email perked my interest! My great great great grandfather was William Griffin, born ca 1813 in North Carolina. He married Telitha/Tabitha Wiggins. I know the birthdate of your William and my William is different and the last name of our Telitha's is different, the similarity was too much for me to dismiss. I've been told that my great great grandfather, Rufus Marion Griffin, was born in Cherokee County, NC. By at least 1860, the family had moved to Randolph Co., Alabama. What do you think? Diane --- On Tue, 9/8/09, Cathy Abernathy <genealogy@calcis.us> wrote: > From: Cathy Abernathy <genealogy@calcis.us> > Subject: Re: [GRIFFIN] Dealing with this kind of Spam [NC Griffins, aft 1700?] > To: griffin@rootsweb.com > Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 4:11 PM > List members: > > This situation has led to a very good conversation > 'thread'. > > It has helped me to see posting in a bit different light. > > I have Griffin ancestors on both my of my father's PATERNAL > and MATERNAL > ancestral lines -- so, I watch each post to the list, I > have yet to see any > of 'my' Griffin kin posted.  Most were folks who > lived, married, died and > are buried in North Carolina. > > Anyone out there have Griffins from North Carolina around > 1700's-1860's? > Any help is greatly appreciated. > > Here are a few name as leads: > > ABERNATHY ancestors: > Margaret Griffith/Griffin (10 sep 1854-12 sep 1945) - > married: William > Pinkney Abernethy. > William Laney Griffin (5 dec 1831-3 sep 1916) - married: > Talitha Jane > Williams. > > HONEYCUTT ancestors: > Orlando Griffith/Griffin (abt 1725-10 sep 1801) - married: > Eliabeth Gaither. > Ann "Nancy" Griffith/Griffin (1766-30 apr 1849) - married: > Johann (John) > Silbers/Silvers. > > -- Cathy Ann Abernathy > weavercat@gmail.com > > http://griffensusa.wordpress.com > http://generationsbeforeme.wordpress.com > http://stringcat.wordpress.com > http://silversgenes.wordpress.com > ============================================== > On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:46 PM, <GRYPHON54@aol.com> > wrote: > > >  All I can add is that all this talk has sure as > heck created a ton of > > spam.    (insert smiley face now). > > > > A lil more info in the header is always a good > thing,. > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > GRIFFIN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > -- Cathy Ann Abernathy > weavercat@gmail.com > > Online Sales: > http://stores.ebay.com/bluespringsbazaar > http://www.bonanzle.com/booths/depatty > http://www.bonanzle.com/booths/catcrafted > > Blogs/Other Sites: > http://stringcat.wordpress.com > http://catcrafted.wordpress.com > http://weavercat.wordpress.com > http://catcrafted.calcis.net > http://www.calcis.net/blog/ >  > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GRIFFIN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: LindaJohnson1961 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.griffin/181.190.246.268.1824.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'll be glad to share what I have but it may be a couple of weeks. I just brought my husband home from the hospital today after he suffered a major heart attack. I'll get back with you ASAP. Thanks for your patience. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

List members: This situation has led to a very good conversation 'thread'. It has helped me to see posting in a bit different light. I have Griffin ancestors on both my of my father's PATERNAL and MATERNAL ancestral lines -- so, I watch each post to the list, I have yet to see any of 'my' Griffin kin posted. Most were folks who lived, married, died and are buried in North Carolina. Anyone out there have Griffins from North Carolina around 1700's-1860's? Any help is greatly appreciated. Here are a few name as leads: ABERNATHY ancestors: Margaret Griffith/Griffin (10 sep 1854-12 sep 1945) - married: William Pinkney Abernethy. William Laney Griffin (5 dec 1831-3 sep 1916) - married: Talitha Jane Williams. HONEYCUTT ancestors: Orlando Griffith/Griffin (abt 1725-10 sep 1801) - married: Eliabeth Gaither. Ann "Nancy" Griffith/Griffin (1766-30 apr 1849) - married: Johann (John) Silbers/Silvers. -- Cathy Ann Abernathy weavercat@gmail.com http://griffensusa.wordpress.com http://generationsbeforeme.wordpress.com http://stringcat.wordpress.com http://silversgenes.wordpress.com ============================================== On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:46 PM, <GRYPHON54@aol.com> wrote: > All I can add is that all this talk has sure as heck created a ton of > spam. (insert smiley face now). > > A lil more info in the header is always a good thing,. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GRIFFIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- -- Cathy Ann Abernathy weavercat@gmail.com Online Sales: http://stores.ebay.com/bluespringsbazaar http://www.bonanzle.com/booths/depatty http://www.bonanzle.com/booths/catcrafted Blogs/Other Sites: http://stringcat.wordpress.com http://catcrafted.wordpress.com http://weavercat.wordpress.com http://catcrafted.calcis.net http://www.calcis.net/blog/

All I can add is that all this talk has sure as heck created a ton of spam. (insert smiley face now). A lil more info in the header is always a good thing,.

Diane... no problem at all! I didn't take your e-mail in a negative way in the slightest. It was a good question and probably one that many are asking. I too love genealogy and feel bad that my questioning Mr. Wheatley may have been perceived by some to be inappropriate. Genealogy is lots of fun and very addictive : ) have fun, Amelia >Amelia, > >I agree with you about including identification of location in the >subject line (and not just for the person who sends the cemetery >photos,but for all of who post) and it would also be nice if people >would include dates and location in the body of the email, too. My >point was that it is pretty obvious what the email is going to be >about once you open it and it's very easy to delete right away. > >I hope I didn't hurt anyone's feelings with my previous >posting--that wasn't my intent. I value this opportunity to search >for my family's roots and I want everyone else to see this as a >great way to learn more about their family in particular and >genealogical research in general. I sincerely apologize if I've >hurt anyone's feelings. > >Diane > >--- On Tue, 9/8/09, Amelia James <ajames@artic.edu> wrote: > >> From: Amelia James <ajames@artic.edu> >> Subject: Re: [GRIFFIN] Dealing with this kind of Spam >> To: griffin@rootsweb.com >> Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 9:56 AM >> in my view it is a matter of making a >> proper subject line. Everyone >> who uses a list like this, no matter the surname, should >> always put a >> location in the subject line if possible. When I contacted >> this >> person some weeks ago, I was just asking him to put TX or >> Texas in >> the subject line, since every single one of his posts was >> from a >> cemetery in Texas. Another member also asked him to >> distinguish his >> posts in some way. >> >> that's it. >> >> I'm hoping that people will learn from this and remember to >> be >> thoughtful when they create their subject line. >> Amelia >> >> >I'm not sure I understand what all the fuss is >> about. As soon as I >> >open the email and see the word cemetery or grave >> (whatever word >> >they use), I know it doesn't pertain to my Griffins and >> I delete it. >> >In fact, there is rarely an email that pertains to my >> Griffins, but >> >I wouldn't think of asking people not to post just >> because it >> >doesn't pertain to me. >> > >> >--- On Sat, 9/5/09, GriffW <griway@knology.net> >> wrote: >> > >> >> From: GriffW <griway@knology.net> >> >> Subject: Re: [GRIFFIN] Dealing with this >> kind of Spam >> >> To: griffin@rootsweb.com >> >> Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 11:09 PM >> >> Kay, >> >> >> >> 1. Leave things as they >> are. >> >> >> >> Waymon Griffin >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Kay Snow wrote, 5 Sep 2009: >> >> > List members, >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > The person posted as t42 is doing a >> wonderful >> >> service. However, I agree I >> >> > wish I didn't have to open each one to >> be sure it >> >> isn't my Griffin Family. >> > > > >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>GRIFFIN-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >> subject and the body of the message >> > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >GRIFFIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: t42MountOlivet Surnames: GRIFFIN Classification: cemetery Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.griffin/6626/mb.ashx Message Board Post: GRIFFIN Clyde W and Birdie May I photographed this gravestone in the Mount Olivet Cemetery, Fort Worth, Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 206,349 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com If you know more about this person please reply here instead of contacting me because this is most likely not my family. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

in my view it is a matter of making a proper subject line. Everyone who uses a list like this, no matter the surname, should always put a location in the subject line if possible. When I contacted this person some weeks ago, I was just asking him to put TX or Texas in the subject line, since every single one of his posts was from a cemetery in Texas. Another member also asked him to distinguish his posts in some way. that's it. I'm hoping that people will learn from this and remember to be thoughtful when they create their subject line. Amelia >I'm not sure I understand what all the fuss is about. As soon as I >open the email and see the word cemetery or grave (whatever word >they use), I know it doesn't pertain to my Griffins and I delete it. >In fact, there is rarely an email that pertains to my Griffins, but >I wouldn't think of asking people not to post just because it >doesn't pertain to me. > >--- On Sat, 9/5/09, GriffW <griway@knology.net> wrote: > >> From: GriffW <griway@knology.net> >> Subject: Re: [GRIFFIN] Dealing with this kind of Spam >> To: griffin@rootsweb.com >> Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 11:09 PM >> Kay, >> >> 1. Leave things as they are. >> >> Waymon Griffin >> >> >> >> Kay Snow wrote, 5 Sep 2009: >> > List members, >> > >> > >> > >> > The person posted as t42 is doing a wonderful >> service. However, I agree I >> > wish I didn't have to open each one to be sure it >> isn't my Griffin Family. > > >

Amelia, I agree with you about including identification of location in the subject line (and not just for the person who sends the cemetery photos,but for all of who post) and it would also be nice if people would include dates and location in the body of the email, too. My point was that it is pretty obvious what the email is going to be about once you open it and it's very easy to delete right away. I hope I didn't hurt anyone's feelings with my previous posting--that wasn't my intent. I value this opportunity to search for my family's roots and I want everyone else to see this as a great way to learn more about their family in particular and genealogical research in general. I sincerely apologize if I've hurt anyone's feelings. Diane --- On Tue, 9/8/09, Amelia James <ajames@artic.edu> wrote: > From: Amelia James <ajames@artic.edu> > Subject: Re: [GRIFFIN] Dealing with this kind of Spam > To: griffin@rootsweb.com > Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 9:56 AM > in my view it is a matter of making a > proper subject line. Everyone > who uses a list like this, no matter the surname, should > always put a > location in the subject line if possible. When I contacted > this > person some weeks ago, I was just asking him to put TX or > Texas in > the subject line, since every single one of his posts was > from a > cemetery in Texas. Another member also asked him to > distinguish his > posts in some way. > > that's it. > > I'm hoping that people will learn from this and remember to > be > thoughtful when they create their subject line. > Amelia > > >I'm not sure I understand what all the fuss is > about.  As soon as I > >open the email and see the word cemetery or grave > (whatever word > >they use), I know it doesn't pertain to my Griffins and > I delete it. > >In fact, there is rarely an email that pertains to my > Griffins, but > >I wouldn't think of asking people not to post just > because it > >doesn't pertain to me. > > > >--- On Sat, 9/5/09, GriffW <griway@knology.net> > wrote: > > > >>  From: GriffW <griway@knology.net> > >>  Subject: Re: [GRIFFIN] Dealing with this > kind of Spam > >>  To: griffin@rootsweb.com > >>  Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 11:09 PM > >>  Kay, > >> > >>  1.      Leave things as they > are. > >> > >>  Waymon Griffin > >> > >> > >> > >>  Kay Snow wrote, 5 Sep 2009: > >>  > List members, > >>  > > >>  > > >>  > > >>  > The person posted as t42 is doing a > wonderful > >>  service.  However, I agree I > >>  > wish I didn't have to open each one to > be sure it > >>  isn't my Griffin Family. > >  > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GRIFFIN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

I'm not sure I understand what all the fuss is about. As soon as I open the email and see the word cemetery or grave (whatever word they use), I know it doesn't pertain to my Griffins and I delete it. In fact, there is rarely an email that pertains to my Griffins, but I wouldn't think of asking people not to post just because it doesn't pertain to me. --- On Sat, 9/5/09, GriffW <griway@knology.net> wrote: > From: GriffW <griway@knology.net> > Subject: Re: [GRIFFIN] Dealing with this kind of Spam > To: griffin@rootsweb.com > Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 11:09 PM > Kay, > > 1.      Leave things as they are. > > Waymon Griffin > > > > Kay Snow wrote, 5 Sep 2009: > > List members, > > > >  > > > > The person posted as t42 is doing a wonderful > service.  However, I agree I > > wish I didn't have to open each one to be sure it > isn't my Griffin Family. > >    > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GRIFFIN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: genegriffin001 Surnames: Griffin Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.griffin/6625/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am trying to find out about my dad's brother, Buck Griffin. Nobody knows what happened to him. He was born in 1913, as Leslie Bucannan, in Mound Creek, Texas (Gonzales County). He was a jockey, and raced horses all over Texas, New Orleans, and even Oaklawn Park in Hot Springs, Arkansas, which is the last place anyone thinks they heard from him. Thanks. Gene Griffin genegriffin@centurytel.net Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: t42MountOlivet Surnames: GRIFFIN Classification: cemetery Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.griffin/6624/mb.ashx Message Board Post: GRIFFIN Lucy B 1918-1987 I photographed this gravestone in the Mount Olivet Cemetery, Fort Worth, Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 206,332 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com If you know more about this person please reply here instead of contacting me because this is most likely not my family. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Cecil318 Surnames: Griffin Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.griffin/2744.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am also looking for any information on Edward Thomas Griffin, Joseph Griffin his son is my Grandfather. He died when my dad was 7 yrs old I was raised in Brantley County, Ga.\ Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Cecil318 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.griffin/2744.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Edward Thomas Griffin is my great grandfather. His son Joseph A Griffin is my grandfather. I have recently started searching my ancestries, Would like any information you could share with me. Thanks Jackie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kathy5733 Surnames: Griffin Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.griffin/87.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Well, in the 1797 District of San Esteban De Tombecbe Census of the persons living in this section, with regard to their country of origin, ages, children and slaves according to the tally made during the past year 1796 for the regulation of 1797. (This is the area that became Washington County, AL). Samuel Griffin Sr is listed as 76 years of age and Mrs. Griffin is listed as 61. They have one child left at home. (This child should be William Griffin) Son James Griffin is listed as 29 and Mrs. Griffin as 24. They have 5 children left at home. This leads me to believe that Samuel Griffin was b. around 1720 and Elizabeth around 1735, which is a little different from what everyone keeps telling me. I have also heard Richard and Mary Green Griffin might be parents of Samuel, but I am very skeptical because of timeline of their Samuel. Thanks, Kathy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: t42MountOlivet Surnames: GRIFFIN Classification: cemetery Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.griffin/6622/mb.ashx Message Board Post: GRIFFIN Mary B 1916-1974 I photographed this gravestone in the Mount Olivet Cemetery, Fort Worth, Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 206,332 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com If you know more about this person please reply here instead of contacting me because this is most likely not my family. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: SilentDove36 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.griffin/87.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: This is what I have for Samuel Sr He married Elizabeth LNU (Last Name Unknow) to me. She was born in 1731. I found some information saying Richard Griffin & Mary Green are Samuel Sr's parents. Both of them were born in VA. Silent Dove wolf_cherokee@yahoo.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I was able to make a filter that will send the messages from t42 to my junk mail box. 1. From griffin-bounces, etc. 2. To Griffin-l@rootsweb.com 3. Containing the words "t42" without the quotes in the body of message. I use Outlook 2007 so you will have to figure out how to do this using your software. k

I vote Leave things as they are; but it would help to have some identification in the subject line. Clare ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Wayne Mann <tpd@charter.net> To: griffin@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GRIFFIN] Dealing with this kind of Spam Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2009 14:44:01 -0700 Kay, couldn't you get him to just add an identical word or two to his subject line. That way everyone could choose to receive them or not. Best for everyone that way. t 02:38 PM 9/5/2009, you wrote: >List members, > > > >The person posted as t42 is doing a wonderful service. However, I agree I >wish I didn't have to open each one to be sure it isn't my Griffin Family. > > > >The only way I can keep the messages he adds to the Message Boards from >being delivered to the Griffin mail list is to not have any of the message >board entries come through the list or I can moderate the mail list. > > > >I can find no grounds to ban him, he is not requesting money for the photo. >So there is only so much I can do. > > > >Let's take a vote, > >1. Leave things as they are. > >2. Keep the Message Boards from coming through the mail list. > >3. Moderate the Mail List. > >I will act in accordance with the majority. > > > >Thanks and please let me know you wishes. > > > >Kay---Mail List, Manager & Message Board Admin. > > > > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >GRIFFIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.78/2347 - Release Date: >09/05/09 05:51:00 Wayne Mann 1079 Farroll Arroyo Grande, Ca. 93420-4146 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GRIFFIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message