This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Rayhunting Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.griffin/2454.1.3.3.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Wow this is great. Do you know Terri in California who is also connected to this Griffin line in Henry County? I just found her several months ago. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: athena3 Surnames: Griffin, Hill Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.griffin/2454.1.3.3.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thomas and Mary Polly Hill Griffin were my gggggrandparents. I live in Florida. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Rayhunting Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.griffin/2454.1.3.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Guys, you probably know this bit of inf, but Thomas Griffin who married Mary"Polly" Hill, Jefferson Co., TN about this time. They left with her father Daniel Hill and most all his family. They first settled in McNairy Co, but Thomas and Polly soon after moved to Henry County where Thomas lived until his death. I am in contact with one of his descendants who now lives in California. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bremer3 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.griffin/2454.1.3.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Todd, Nelson is in Henry Co. in 1830 which is just west of Stewart. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: foxfndr Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.griffin/2454.1.3.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Sorry, the type messed up on the censu in the transfer. I reposted this info again on another post and it worked this time. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: foxfndr Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.griffin/2454.1.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: 1830 Stewart Co., Tn. Census Elizabeth Griffin 1 m 15-19 1 f 30-39 1 m 5-9 1 f 10-14 1 f 5-9 Joseph Griffin 1 m 40-49 1 f 50-59 1 m 10-14 1 f 30-39 4 f 10-14 Elizabeth is the widow of Arthur Mann Griffin, son of Arthur Griffin & Amy Mann, from Northampton Co., NC. Arthur was born, 1775 in Northampton Co., NC. He died 8-1824 in Stewart Co., Tn. Arthur and Elizabeth's children were: Dawsey, Nancy Belle, Martha E., Elitha, William and Arthur M. Joseph Griffin is the son of Arthur Griffin and his second wife, Amy Warr, making him Elizabeth's step brother-in-law. Some think his wife was Charity Parker based on the will of John Parker of Stewart Co., Tn. in 1814. This will list his daughters Charity Griffin & Suca Griffin. However I think that the Charity listed as Joseph's wife is Charity Bass. There is an Elizabeth Bass listed in the 1850 Census as being 90 and living with Joseph & Charity. There is also a woman 20 years older than Charity listed in the 1830 & 1840 census. I think this is Elizabeth Bass and she is Charity's mother. Joseph and Charity's children were: William, Nancy & Harriet. 1840 Stewart Co., Tn. Census Elitha Griffin 1 m 15-19 1 f 50-59 Dawsey Griffin 1 m 20-29 1 f 20-29 2 f 5-9 1 f 0-5 Joseph Griffin 1 m 50-59 1 f 70-79 1 m 20-29 1 f 40-49 1 f 20-29 1 f 15-19 Nelson Griffin 1 m 40-49 1 f 30-39 1 m 10-14 1 f 10-14 2 m 5-9 1 f 5-9 2 m 0-5 Isaac Griffin 1 m 20-29 1 f 15-19 1 m 15-19 1 f 0-5 1 m 0-5 David Griffin 1 m 20-29 1 f 15-19 1 m 15-19 Elitha is Elizabeth Griffin, widow of Arthur. Dawsey is her son. Joseph's family from 1830 is still at home except for two daughters that are probably married by 1840. Nelson, Isaac & David are new to Stewart Co. in 1840. We know that Nelson married Peggy Reese in Jefferson Co., Tn. on 1-16-1822. We do not know where he was in 1830. I think that Isaac was Nelson's brother, but have no evidence to support this. Isaac disappears after the 1840 census, but is found again in 1850, Pope Co., Ark. David could also be a brother of Nelson. David disappears after 1840. There is a David in Cass Co., Ill. in 1850 that could be him. 1850 Stewart Co., Tn. Census Jethro Bass 61 NC Elizabeth 60 NC William Griffin 28 Tn Margaret 29 Tn Mary 2 Tn Wilbert Coleman 6 Tn William Griffin 37 Tn Ineda 30 Tn Mary 5 Tn Martha 3 Tn Almeda 2 Tn Ann May 40 Tn Coleman Travis 40 Tn Malinda 38 Tn Malicia Griffin 16 Tn William Griffin 24 Tn George Travis 15 Tn Emanda Travis 9 Tn Nelson Griffin 55 Tn Nancy 19 Tn Elizabeth 16 Tn Albert 14 Tn Samuel 13 Tn Thomas 12 Tn Sarah 8 Tn Riggs 3 Tn Dawsey Griffin 37 NC Sarah 39 Ky Martha 17 Tn Mary 15 Tn Pennela 10 Tn William 8 Tn Alfrey 6 Tn Thomas 4 Tn Allis 1 Tn Joseph Griffin 55 NC Charity 65 NC Nancy 32 NC Harriet 31 TN Elizabeth Bass 90 NC Elizabeth Griffin, widow of Arthur Mann Griffin, remarried to Jethro Bass, 7-1-1856 in Stewart Co., Tn. Dawsey Griffin is Elizabeth and Arthur's son. William Griffin married to Margaret is Elizabeth and Arthur's son. William Griffin married to Ineda is Joseph's son. William married to Malica seems to be Nelson Griffin's oldest son. A Weldon Perry Griffin from Christian Co., Ky. shows up in Stewart Co., Tn. just long enough to sell 100 acres of land in 1852. Then shortly afterwards, William & Malica and the Travis family are found in Christian Co., Ky. as well. This makes me think there may be a connection to Weldon P. Griffin. I have no idea who David Griffin belongs to. There is also a W.A. Griffin, T.W. Griffin and a William Griffin found on an estate sale buyers list with Nelson Griffin in 1844 that I do not know who they are. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: foxfndr Surnames: Griffin Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.griffin/2454.1.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Stewart Co., Tn. Griffin's 1830 Stewart Co., Tn. Census Elizabeth Griffin Joseph Griffin 1 m 15-19 1 f 30-39 1 m 40-49 1 f 50-59 1 m 5-9 1 f 10-14 1 m 10-14 1 f 30-39 1 f 5-9 4 f 10-14 Elizabeth is the widow of Arthur Mann Griffin, son of Arthur Griffin & Amy Mann, from Northampton Co., NC. Arthur was born, 1775 in Northampton Co., NC. He died 8-1824 in Stewart Co., Tn. Arthur and Elizabeth's children were: Dawsey, Nancy Belle, Martha E., Elitha, William and Arthur M. Joseph Griffin is the son of Arthur Griffin and his second wife, Amy Warr, making him Elizabeth's step brother-in-law. Some think his wife was Charity Parker based on the will of John Parker of Stewart Co., Tn. in 1814. This will list his daughters Charity Griffin & Suca Griffin. However I think that the Charity listed as Joseph's wife is Charity Bass. There is an Elizabeth Bass listed in the 1850 Census as being 90 and living with Joseph & Charity. There is also a woman 20 years older than Charity listed in the 1830 & 1840 census. I think this is Elizabeth Bass and she is Charity's mother. Joseph and Charity's children were: William, Nancy & Harriet. 1840 Stewart Co., Tn. Census Elitha Griffin Dawsey Griffin 1 m 15-19 1 f 50-59 1 m 20-29 1 f 20-29 2 f 5-9 1 f 0-5 Joseph Griffin Nelson Griffin 1 m 50-59 1 f 70-79 1 m 40-49 1 f 30-39 1 m 20-29 1 f 40-49 1 m 10-14 1 f 10-14 1 f 20-29 2 m 5-9 1 f 5-9 1 f 15-19 2 m 0-5 Isaac Griffin David Griffin 1 m 20-29 1 f 15-19 1 m 20-29 1 f 15-19 1 m 15-19 1 f 0-5 1 m 15-19 1 m 0-5 Elitha is Elizabeth Griffin, widow of Arthur. Dawsey is her son. Joseph's family from 1830 is still at home except for two daughters that are probably married by 1840. Nelson, Isaac & David are new to Stewart Co. in 1840. We know that Nelson married Peggy Reese in Jefferson Co., Tn. on 1-16-1822. We do not know where he was in 1830. I think that Isaac was Nelson's brother, but have no evidence to support this. Isaac disappears after the 1840 census, but is found again in 1850, Pope Co., Ark. David could also be a brother of Nelson. David disappears after 1840. There is a David in Cass Co., Ill. in 1850 that could be him. 1850 Stewart Co., Tn. Census Jethro Bass 61 NC William Griffin 28 Tn Elizabeth 60 NC Margaret 29 Tn Mary 2 Tn Wilbert Coleman 6 Tn William Griffin 37 Tn Coleman Travis 40 Tn Ineda 30 Tn Malinda 38 Tn Mary 5 Tn Malicia Griffin 16 Tn Martha 3 Tn William Griffin 24 Tn Almeda 2 Tn George Travis 15 Tn Ann May 40 Tn Emanda Travis 9 Tn Nelson Griffin 55 Tn Dawsey Griffin 37 NC Nancy 19 Tn Sarah 39 Ky Elizabeth 16 Tn Martha 17 Tn Albert 14 Tn Mary 15 Tn Samuel 13 Tn Pennela 10 Tn Thomas 12 Tn William 8 Tn Sarah 8 Tn Alfrey 6 Tn Riggs 3 Tn Thomas 4 Tn Allis 1 Tn Joseph Griffin 55 NC Charity 65 NC Nancy 32 NC Harriet 31 TN Elizabeth Bass 90 NC Elizabeth Griffin, widow of Arthur Mann Griffin, remarried to Jethro Bass, 7-1-1856 in Stewart Co., Tn. Dawsey Griffin is Elizabeth and Arthur's son. William Griffin married to Margaret is Elizabeth and Arthur's son. William Griffin married to Ineda is Joseph's son. William married to Malica seems to be Nelson Griffin's oldest son. A Weldon Perry Griffin from Christian Co., Ky. shows up in Stewart Co., Tn. just long enough to sell 100 acres of land in 1852. Then shortly afterwards, William & Malica and the Travis family are found in Christian Co., Ky. as well. This makes me think there may be a connection to Weldon P. Griffin. I have no idea who David Griffin belongs to. There is also a W.A. Griffin, T.W. Griffin and a William Griffin found on an estate sale buyers list with Nelson Griffin in 1844 that I do not know who they are. I have not been through all of Stewart Co. Tn.'s records, but theses are what I have: 1814: John Parker's will list daughters Charity Griffin and Suca Griffin. 1823: Joseph Griffin is witness on a deed for Isaac Williams. 9-24-1823 1835: Nelson Griffin buys 100 acres on the Dry Fork of Panther Creek from Miles Purvis. Witnessed by: Apollos Cooper, William Reese and David Williams. 9-13-1835 1841: Joseph Griffin buys from Stephen Bogard, 159 acres at Saline & Dyers Creek. 4-10-1841 1844: Nelson Griffin, W.A. Griffin, T.W. Griffin and William Griffin all make purchases at the estate sale of Matthew Manning. (Who are W.A. & T.W. & William Griffin at this sale?) 1846: Elizabeth Griffin & Jethro Bass form a prenuptial agreement. 6-16-1846 1848: Nelson Griffin pays John Duncan $5 of oxen. 5-28-1848 1848: Arthur Griffin sells to Daniel Vinson 2 tracts on Pryor's Creek. Witnessed by: Dawsey Griffin. 9-12-1848 1849: Joseph Griffin sells to George Vickers, 100 acres in District 3. 11-2-1849 1852: W.A. Griffin pays W.L. Fields $5 for a wagon. 4-16-1852 1852: Weldon P. Griffin of Christian Co., Ky. sells to John Baynham, 100 acres on Green Tree Cove Creek. 8-11-1852 1857: Joseph Griffin deeds 159 acres to daughters Nancy and Harriet Griffin. 3-28-1857 1869: William Griffin & Coleman Travis of Christian Co., Ky. sell 100 acres to Vinson Gray. 2-13-1869 Feel free to contact me with any ideas or corrections. I'm trying obsessively to get these Tennessee Griffin's in some sort of order and will need lots of input to do it. You may reach me here or at foxfndr@aol.com. Thanks, Todd Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kathy5733 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.griffin/6658.1.1.1.1.2.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Sorry to confuse you Jan. I wasn't very clear. First the other surnames that my Griffin DNA match are: Vaughn/Vaughan, Stephens/Stevens, and Hooper. These are the most common. I absolutely do not see anything wrong in your Griffin research. That was not my point. I was only hoping to convey to all readers that doing the DNA test could be a very helpful tool to go along with the paper trail. It doesn't always find a match, but sometimes you can rule out one that you thought was a match. Using the DNA & also a will has ruled out the Samuel Griffin son of Richard and Mary Green Griffin for me. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jantrevor Surnames: Griffin Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.griffin/6658.1.1.1.1.2.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, were the other surnames that you match to most often by chance: Vaughan/n or Evans? Just curious. Of our other 25 marker and close matches, Those are our matching surnames other than Griffin. So, perhaps these are relations from prior to 1600 when the Welsh/Irish were using patronyms, (I have seen no conclusive evidence that our line was either Irish or Welsh). (DNA Native matches were high on Ireland and Wales for our line). I lean toward Welsh despite family legend. And, there is always the possibility of a non-paternal event within a line... which just makes the research even that much more challenging. Also, as to the DNA testing ruling out particular lines, I would be cautious about eliminating certain lines as related/non-related without source to validate. Some of the trees and research for which people who have tested and stated are "proved" are actually not proven if you look for sources. The surname project just publishes the trees/I have not seen the research behind some lines. Of course, if you match a certain set of Griffins, there is no doubt you are related....it's just a matter of validating if all the trees contain accurate information for those lines. The difficulty with all this is in part the lack of records for the very early Griffin's and the continued usage of the same first names among multiple lines. Even though I feel fairly confident in my research, there is always the possibility that for example there was another Anthony Griffin in Lunenburg and Halifax County VA of another line, at the same time who was also a father of a Benjamin and a son o! f a Richard...not particularly likely...but possible. As to your Samuel, I was not completely clear on your post. If I have something incorrect, please feel free to clarify and I will update. I admit to focusing primarily on my direct line. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: NWillian Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.griffin/6786.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: i'm sorry, those names aren't in my tree, but i do wish you happy hunting nancy williams Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lealynn1265 Surnames: Griffin, Taylor, Degraud Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.griffin/6786/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for information on George Washington Griffin born Mar. 9, 1907 died Oct 16, 1985. He married Zula Sylvania Taylor. His father was Jack Riley Griffin from AL who married Lillie Degraud. I believe Jack Riley's parents were Jack and Caroline Griffin. Any information on any of this family would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: NWillian Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.griffin/6658.1.1.1.1.2.2.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: that was very kind of you to take such time to give me such info. i have been afraid to start on the Indian line, but will go to the sites you gave me. i do have the griffin listed in the 1880 census w/wife ellen just in case, but my gt aunt was a librarian & was in charge of all the family members, bless her heart. i have the written papers she gave my dad & she swore charles's wife was caroline, so over the years, i have used ea name. i can trace imp lines that lead to the griffins, the albrittons from NC who homesteaded in GA as early as 1810, if my memory serves me right. my adams came from same basic area in NC, but went s on the coffee trail to thomas cty, ga, then to randolph for a couple of years, & that's where the adams & albrittons hook up. years later, joseph shows up in randolph cty, ga & somehow hooked up the daug of the albrittons & adams. i have his cival war record, but nothing else. i have also been researching my husband's line - he's a yankee born in Fl. i have learned so much about the northerners - his people wrote the charters for ct, ma, started dartmouth & on & on. i am fiercely proud of my southern roots, but it was so pleasant to find everything about everyone all written down so nice & neat for the yankees! again, thanks so much for your valued opinion, & good hunting to you too! nancy williams Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jantrevor Surnames: griffin, alabama, georgia, cherokee, creek, saponi Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.griffin/6658.1.1.1.1.2.2.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks Nancy. I'm just a regular researcher but appreciate the kind words. I focused my research primarily on my line and a few others which appeared related because they had "Owen's" as first names among them. But overall, I have not noticed a lot of "Charles" Griffins in the lines I researched. So when I saw your Charles I wondered if perhaps he might be connected on down the line to Charles Griffin, the school master at Ft. Christiana...He is rumored to have been Saponi Indian. Other documents say he was white. Perhaps he was both, white and adopted into the tribe. Various other documents at least strongly infer he lived among the Saponi. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haliwa-Saponi Your Charles was born much later, but perhaps a connection as a grandchild, great-nephew. It's a longshot but might be something to research to see if you find anything that matches up. Lots of dead ends to research but eventually something shows up. (Grinnan-VMHB,V.3, 1890; 189-190). [January 1743] In essay titled "The Last Indians in Orange County, VA", author cites document which states "the following Sapony Indians were arrested for hog stealing, burning the woods, etc, and brought to Orange County Court (held near Somerville Ford on the Rapidan River); their names were Alex Machartion, John Bowling, Maniassa, Capt Tom, Isaac Harry, Blind Tom., Foolish Jack, Charles Griffin, John Collins and Little Jack." Describes trial, guns taken, ordered to leave county, "several white gentlemen sympathizing with them, went security on their bail bonds, and the poor fellows soon settled up their affairs and left the county. Tradition however says that one remained and long lived on the "Gwin Mountains below Rapidan Station". At Orange County Court in May 1740 William Bohannon made oath that "about 26 Saponey Indians, who inhabited Col. Spotwood's land in Fox's Neck (near Germanna on north side of Rapidan River) do mischief.." Grinnan says this Saponey band lived near & on the Meherrin River, Southern VA. Gov. Spotswood made efforts to "educate & Christianize them. They had schools and school-master and a minister, and were considered civilized Indians." The 1800 Census finds only 3 Charles Griffins: Obviously these are not your Charles, but if by chance your Charles was named after his father, these might be people to research for more clues. Charles Griffin Newberry District, South Carolina 6 4 3 8 Charles Griffin Fayetteville, Anson, North Carolina 1 3 Charles Griffin Springhill, Fayette, Pennsylvania 4 2 And... Have you ruled out the Charles Griffin shown in the 1880 Census with wife Ellen? 1880 United States Federal Census about Charles Griffin Name: Charles Griffin Home in 1880: Cotton Hill, Barbour, Alabama Age: 71 Estimated birth year: abt 1809 Birthplace: Georgia This Charles states his parents were born in GA. If that is the case, that would put them at 1780-1790 in GA which is very early...would have to have been some of the first settlers into the area/after Treaty of Augusta in 1773. Just to clarify the notion of what early GA was like and who was there that early (my kin folks were included in this lot) From: Creek country: the Creek Indians and their world By Robbie Franklyn Ethridge http://books.google.com/books?id=_8MX4d1xJmoC&pg=PA218&dq=georgia eye gouge&hl=en&ei=R-hMTMubMo36swPWuqhI&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=6&ved=0CEEQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=georgia eye gouge&f=false "The settlers of the Georgia backcountry are lazier and more given to drunkenness and lawlessness than backcountry people in any other state of the union. Tales of southern frontier lawlessness were legendary. The men were reportedly so mean that they would even kill or rob their neighbors, and the deeper into the hinterlands, the meaner the men are. The Georgia "Crackers" held by far the worst reputation for lawlessness. Many travelors witnessed the imfamous gouging fights among Georgia frontier men wherein a seemingly goodwill wrestling match would turn into a scene of horror as the two participants went straight for each other's eyes. The idea was to gouge out an eye and many frontier men had only one eye as a result of losing such a match. In fact Milfort insisted that the name "crackers" was a distortion of the word "gougers" the name he claimed was usually associated with Georgia pioneers. Others related the name came from the cracking of whips as frontier men dr! ove their wagons. Milfort who had a low opinion of America in general described Georgians as the meanest men that ever lived. According to Milfort, they cut their hair short and painted their faces like Indians when maurading. They were ungovernable, never submitted to authority, and were "truly frightful". When Milfort told his urban friends that he was going to live among the Creeks, they warned that the Creeks might roast and eat him. Milfort later reflected that he would have preferred that to staying among the frontier Georgians." Obviously, there is alot of prejudice in this early reference. But, it's clear from multiple other texts that they were a rough lot (hence the reason the later Circuit preachers were so intent on converting them). Some of the negative connotations may also be because so many of the Georgians had intermarried with the Creek and Cherokee and later sided with the Indians over land disputes. The last reference to them dressing/painting themselves similarly reflects this. Initially, these early white traders and trappers were "useful" to eastern businessmen, but later they were lumped in with all Indians as "savages" and I think you can see this in Milfort's reflections. By making Georgians into "savages, mean people," etc. it was easier for others to turn their backs on these mixed peoples during Indian Removal. Other potential leads: There is a Charles Griffin born in GA in the 1850 census with a wife Mary and passing down the name Charles to a son. As to what to do next.... Generally, I searched under all my ancestors names and their children as far back as I could go with as many spellings as were possible, if I could not find them, I tried following their early neighbors. Often these families moved together in groups. Then I started researching the history of each of the early communities/counties in each state as the land was opened up for Griffins going down all the traditional routes (census, will, deeds, church records etc). After that, I started looking in records for people other than white and in early textbooks and essays. Don't give up. You'll find something eventually. In our case, it was my Great Aunt, the finding of our family bible and some pics of ancestors who looked like they could be Indian, combined with hers and my research and small clues from a whole host of other Griffin researchers that helped me track down my line a bit. So, it was a joint effort. I definately could not have done it on my own! As to DNA testing, it is very helpful and worthwhile. The more Griffin's that are tested...the more we will know how we fit together. Anyway, more to ponder and happy searching! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: NWillian Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.griffin/6658.1.1.1.1.2.2.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: jan, i am just blown away at the knowledge you possess on the griffin family, & to be able to put together your website & video, well, i could go on & on saying great things & wishing i were as competent a genealogist as you! i have gone through every msg that had your name attached, & i can't find the elusive charles griffin, born 1809 in GA. oral & some written family history says his wife was a caroline smith, but i can't verify that. i do know that he had a son named joseph alexander griffin, who may be the one that was born in dekalb cty in 1842. Next i find joseph in randolph cty census probably of 1860 & single. he married mary elizabeth adams, daugh of Lewis Nashwell Adams & Alice Jane Albritton who's family stayed in Randolph cty, GA while the adams went on the Barbour Cty. I have asked my dad to take the dna test & he said he would, i just have to get it & take it to him. i have been searching for 10years to put all this together & have it right, but i can't find charles. what do i do next? thank you for your advice & sharing of your vast wealth of knowledge. i too am reading the same book you are & am amazed at what the truth really is! nancy williams Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mariedreamwalker Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.griffin/1194.1229.1794.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am aslo working on surnames of Leslie, Horton, Duncan, Chandler, Harlan, Griffin and a few others in the Ar. area. Which ones are you currently working on besides Griffin surname? You can get me at RavenWinddancer@yahoo.com (My other site was compromised) Good luck in your hunt into the family history. Marie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: WandaAllman91 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.griffin/233.299.304.305.345.346.381.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: You may have found the info you asked about, but in case you didn't, Richard was buried in the Hamilton\Griffin Cemetery about 10 miles East of Monroe, NC Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: WandaAllman91 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.griffin/233.299.301.1025/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I just today recieved your message! The info I have on the Griffins, Richard: born Scotland, abt. 1729/30. Died in Anson Co,NC (Now Union Co.) 1795. Wife: unknown but death date 1789 in Virginia. Children: 1.Mary Jane: no other info 2.Thomas Griffin: born 9 Mar. 1748, Essex Co. Va. died July 1807 in Anson Co NC. 3.David Griffin: born 1760, Tidewater, Essex Co. VA, died Sept 1815 in Anson Co. NC Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: foxfndr Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.griffin/233.299.304.305.345.346.381.2.4.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I left out that you can contact me through Ancestry or at foxfndr@aol.com. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: foxfndr Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.griffin/233.299.304.305.345.346.381.2.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am collecting alot of circumstantial evidence that all leads me direct to the Union-Anson Co. Griffin's. I hope you may be able to help me sort it out. I descendend from a William Griffin, b.1750-70 NC. This William Griffin recieved several Military Issue land Grants from NC. for land in Tennessee after the Rev War. His first one is registered in Washington Co., Tn. in 1782. Now he and his son Spencer Griffin are in neighboring Grainger Co., Tn. in 1801. Here is the interesting part. In Grainger Co., Court records Spencer Griffin is listed as the "only heir" of "the Honorable Samuel Spencer" of Anson Co., NC. Samuel Spencer was a "High Court Judge" in NC and lived in Anson Co., NC. Samuel Spencer was also the North Carolina Judge overseeing the trials in Washington Co., Tn. in dissolving the "State of Franklin" in 1788. During these trials Samuel Spencer put a warrant out for the arrest of John Sevier. (first Gov. of Tennessee) Years later John Sevier (apparently in a grudge match)confiscated the land of William Griffin in Washington Co., Tn. William then moved into Grainger Co. Family musings are that our William is a son of Richard Griffin. The circumstancial evidence points directly in the direction of the Griffin's in Anson-Union Counties of NC. Any ideas? Ever heard of a branch of the Anson-Union Griffin's that ended up in Tennessee? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kathy5733 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.griffin/6658.1.1.1.1.2.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks for the info Jan. I had the pleasure of checking out your line. I am a descendant of a Samuel Griffin that everyone tries to claim as the one that is in your line that was the son of Richard and Mary Green Griffin. I have long tried to correct this, but there are a lot of people out there that don't really want to know the truth. They just want to accept false info so they can complete a tree. I have a cousin that did the DNA test and it definitely shows that my Samuel is not from the Richard and Mary Green Griffin line. My Samuel was found in Burke Co, GA in the late 1700s and then moved to the Washington Co, AL area by 1797. I encourage everyone that possibly can to do the DNA test. It will help with their research. They may not find their match, but they may like myself be able to definitely rule out some of the Griffin lines. I was lucky to find two matching lines but we have not figured out where we connect yet. A Jonas Griffin and a Michael Griffin line do match my DNA. Also, of interest is that my Griffin line very closely matches a couple of other surnames. Was told that this was not uncommon as several centuries ago last names were not always passed down to offspring. I also like you did the DNA test for genetics because my son came up as a carrier of the cystic fibrosis gene. I found out that I was the carrier that gave it to him and I have traced it back to my mother's side of the family. She was a Griffin. I will definitely consider the other DNA test you mentioned. There was always talk of Indian blood in our veins going back to AL, but I can't find it through records. So the test you mentioned would be a good one to follow up on. Kathy Curtis Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.