In a message dated 98-11-03 08:51:09 EST, you write: << Hi again, I have Wm Green born 1677 died after 1744 and before 1745, original source of information unknown, of Amelia County, VA. Is this the same Wm Green. I have this Wm connected to Thomas Green m. Filmer. Ken >> HI Ken, Yes, I would say so, but as you probably know, the dates for the Seagull Green family vary considerable from one researcher to another. William Green was probably the youngest son of Thomas "Seagull"Green, born 1635, as sea coming to America. If this birth date is correct, you would assume his children would have been born from about 1655 until about 1695, or from age 20 until about age 60. Most of the info I have seen estimated that his son William Green was born about 1705. I guess this is possible, but I think very unlikely that his father was 70 years old when his son was born. Your birth date of 1677 seems much more likely. Where did you find this date? In any case, William Green married Amey Clay about 1725 and he died some time before August 22, 1747 when his will was probated. William Green had an older brother named Thomas Green born about 1665, who married Elizabeth Marston. This couple had two daughters, Lucy and Martha Green who married Henry and Charles Clay, two brothers of Amey Clay Green. These families moved to Kentucky and were the ancestors of both the famous Henry Clay and James Calhoon. Hope this helps. Tom Green