I think that was sorta the idea behind the discussion a month or so ago. Remember, no one had the time, knowledge, resources, etc, to actually get the job done. OK, so we can't seem to get a clearing house web site going, so can those of you who have your lines back to the "originals" take a moment to copy an outline of each to the list? My "personal angel" (OK, she isn't mine personally, but she has helped me tremendously!) has the Seagull listed at: http://www.parsonstech.com/genealogy/trees/sreuther/d19289.htm#P58323 Betty