Hi folks-- First, a note about the messages Kelvin posted. I recognised a couple from the LIRooters list. We've had a problem there because the "Reply" and "Reply to All" buttons routes all replies to the whole list. It is not the fault of the replier who may not have realized this. But the point about the non-information in those quoted posts is valid. If the replier had left the original message < > , we would know what query had been made and could make sense of the reply. Then maybe we'd all learn from it. I know it gets really cumbersome to have all the thread repeated every time, but it's possible to cut just enough of a query to clarify the question for others. {Yeah, I forgot to quote Kelvin's examples here. Sorry!} Joy Weaver -- <joyweave@erols.com> Outline trees for: SELDEN, PALMER, HALLOCK are now up at: http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/w/e/a/Joyce-R-Weaver/ Seeking: USA: BURNSIDE, CLAPP, GREEN, HAIGHT, HALLOCK, HEAD, KING, MERRITT, MORRIS, PALMER, SELDEN, SWAZEY, TAYLOR. Canada: GRANT, WEAVER, BROWN. England: WALL, HUNT. Poland: BLUMBERG, FOGIEL, ROZENEL. Belarus: FEINBERG, VILNER.