In a message dated 99-02-14 13:16:16 EST, you write: << Ralph's marriage to Catherine is theorized. I believe it to be true for reasons you may have seen. It has been in fact picked up by the Munson Genealogy and marc Griffin's very well done Web page and seen by many people. Unfortunately, however, valid the theory, these sources have managed to entrench this as fact in many family trees I've seen. Give me a date and a place. It is proven that Ralph Griffin had a daughter Mary Griffin who married Stephen Green via Ralph's will in Jefferson Co., Ind., written in August 1838. Mary and Stephen married 1798 in Shelby Co., Ky., and moved to Indiana by 1807, probably with Ralph. Wish I could prove Stephen's father. Stephen lived 1 Mar. 1774-23 May 1849. I spent a lot of time trying to link him to Stephen Green Sr., the Rev. War soldier who died 1802 in Madison Co., Ky. Stephen Sr. had a son Stephen Jr., who unfortunately and very provably, died in 1792 (as I recall.) (And I'll spend the rest of my life probably trying to get this theory out of material that I circulated before someone set me straight.) Stephen Sr. had a wife Jamima and daughter Rhoda. My Stephen had daughters named Jamima and Rhoda. We also believe that my Stephen was brother to Frederick Green b. ca. 1782 in Virginia who came to Switzerland and Jefferson co., Ind. shortly after Stephen arrived. These names point to a relationship with Henry Green wh o left the will 1748 in Lunenburg Co. Could Frederick and Stephen have been sons of Henry's son Frederick or his son Richard? I don't know. My Stephen was bondsman when a John Green married Kitty Lewis in 1804 in Shelby Co., I don't have a clue who John is, but he could be a younger brother. >> Hi Bob, Thanks for the info. You have obviouly done far more research than I, so I would like to pick your brain (in data) on this theory. I show that Stephen Green, born March 1, 1774, who married Mary Griffin, was the son of Stephen Green, Sr., born about 1724 who married Jemima Scott, and I show that Stephen, Sr. was the son of Henry Filmer Green, born about 1704, who married Mary Elizabeth Griffin, born about 1700. I sho this Henry Filmer Green was the son of Filmer Green, born about 1662, the son of Thomas "Seagull" Green. I show that a number of this family married the children of William Griffin who died about 1751. Does any of this fit with what you have? I am attempting to find the parents of William Green born February 6, 1762 in Prince Edward County, Virginia. Since this family was formed from Amelia County, VA. I am hoping that I can identify the parents of my William Green as part of the Thomas "Seagull" Green family. Any help would be GREATLY appareciated! Tom Green