In a message dated 99-02-07 22:08:30 EST, you write: << I think that the relation of Gov Thomas Greens line to Nortons is a possibility and Thomas's Grandfather Thomas Norton Alias Green's mother was a Green and may have been tied into Henry the VIII's Last wifes family Parrs who were Greens. There was a John Green in London with the same arms as Thomas Norton Alias Green (ie gules a cross crosslet ermine within a bordure argent and sable). So some research needs to be done in London also. If anyone knows more about this please let us know. Sincerely Melvin R. Greene (Chip) >> Hi Chip, I agree with you completely. There are just too many simularities here for the two lines not to be connect in some way. There are several researchers on the GREEN list that have done much more research than I, and hopefull some of them will join the discussion. George Green sent me an old article last year discussing the father of the first Sir Henry Greene. This was a Sir Thomas de Broughton who may have changed his name to Greene, but no one knows for sure. Maybe your Norton who changed his name to Green has some connection. The Broughton estate was also mentioned in the Doomsday Book, and some believe that the family that received this estate from William the Conqureror was the same that became the Green family. I have some info on the Parr family because of the marriage of Maud Green to Sir Thomas Parr, but I don't show any Norton in the line. Let me know if I can provide any data that could help find a conntection to the Norton family you have researched. Best Regards, Tom Green