Hi Tom and all, I have been collecting whatever I can find on the VA Greens, all of them, who were there prior to 1750, and I expanded that to 1800 to find possible surnames used as first names. My point is that what I find seems to be in question. Dates don't match the expected marriages, children too far apart, that sort of thing. Has anyone worked up a (best guess) list for the Seagull, and the others also? I sure would like to know what the most excepted data is. We have two sets of Greens, in Montgomery Co., one goes in to a fellow named Farnsworth, ( I heard), and the other used the Seagull names, and Bolling names. Example: Bolling Green. Bollings used Green Bolling. Ouch. The NC Wm Green born 1740s or earlier, used (in later generatiopns) the name Anderson, Pleasant, Marston, Philmer/Filmer, Goodman, Bolling, plus a healty dose of all those common ones, like James, John , Wm etc. The other set used Greene, (Farnsworth's set ?). Any good reference I ought to find? If some has the most accepted data earlier ones, would they post it, so I can check my data again. Ken