Hi David, My last two messages to you have been returned. Don't know what is going on???? Thank you for all your work! I have been looking back at my records of Prince Edward County, Amelia County, and several others that I have researched, and agree that the John Green who purchased land from Nathaniel Harris on Vaughan's Creek December 3, 1754 in Prince Edward County, Virginia, could be our man. I have not yet located Vaughan's Creek where this land was located. Have you located this creek? >From the deed book (1) records it appears that this same John Green and Edward Gresham who witnessed a land sell of Robert Gresham on Harriss' Creek, and Miller's Spring Branch January 28, 1757. If these two pieces of property are near each other, I would think this is the same John Green. The only other Greens mentioned in Deed Book (1) of Prince Edward County, Va. are the Thomas Green who married Lucy Davis, and the William Green that witnessed his April 25, 1761 land purchases from Thomas' father-in-law, Peter Davis. As you said, it appears one of these men was the father of our ancestors. I don't see anything in Deed Book (2) of Prince Edward County, Va. that appears to contirdict this theory. These two seem to be the only Greens in the county. The deed on page 142b. of Deed Book (2) is the one that gives Christiana as the name of John Green's wife, and it is dated February 21, 1763, so that would prove they were in the county when my William Green was born on February 6, 1762. The only thing that bothers me about this theory is William and Kezziah Green didn't name a daughter Christiana Green. The early marriage records don't help much, as only the family of the Thomas Green who married Lucy Davis appear to be recorded. There is a Betsy Green who married James Baven May 4, 1792 that is not identified as being a daughter of Thomas and Lucy David Green, but other than her, the others all belong to Thomas and Lucy. Where do we go from here??? Tom Green

Hi, I am new to the web. I am researching lines... ANDERSON, William and sister Miscellacy Ansabelle, b. 1856 TX mar. Charles Joseph Barnett SHIPMAN b. MS BLACKWOOD, Andrew J. b. TN wife Mary M. or Nancy C. YOUNG BOONE, Rebecca b. 1808 m. Thornton E.WAINSCOTT BROWN, Joseph Frazier Brown b. TN and daughter, Nannie White BROWN b. TX CASTEEL, George b. 1856 TX mar. Bobbie DUNCAN COREY, Anthony b. KTY, and wife Sidney A. b. KTY COREY, John C. b. NH, wife Millis A. Robards, or Susan N. DUNCAN, Bobbie (female) b. 1862 TX mar. George CASTEEL GARTH, Brightberry or Braberry b. 1800 VA mar. Eliza Ann GRAVES, Jane EARLY GREEN, William T., Sr. b. Jul 1849 ARK mar. Susan BLACKWOOD HALLMARK, Telitha Ann b.26 Jul 1829 AL mar. John Skelton TEAGUE HALLMARK, D.M. mar. Cordelia HAYNES, John H. b. 1827 IL mar. Mary or Maria KUYKENDALL HAYNES, Joseph Kuykendall b. 1853 TX HERLOCKER, Elizabeth b. 1757 mar John Melchor, Sr. HILL, Henderson mar. Sarah ROBERTS HILL, Lucinda b. 1874 mar. Charles Henry COREY HOLLOWAY, E. Morgan mar. Rhoda MEEK(S) as 2nd wife KUYKENDALL, Mary b. ILL or Maria mar. John H. HAYNES KUYKENDALL, Lewis b. 1785 TN mar. Margaret RICHEY MASON, Thomas, had son... MASON, Warren Lewis b 1861 IND, mar. Mary "Sophia" MELTON MEEK(S) Rhoda b. 1832 ARK. mar. ANDERSON MEEK(S) Moses b. 1810/11 TN had daughter, Rhoda MELCHOR, Mathias b. 21 Dec 1798 Cabarrus Co. NC mar. Sophia SIDES MELTON, Green Jackson b. 1842 Montgomer Co. NC mar. Margaret Caroline MELCHOR MELTON, James Joseph b. 181 NC mar. Clementine b. 1820 NC MILLER, Katherine b. 1789 mar. Leonard SIDES MOON, Charity M. b. 1817 AL mar. John Turner SHIPMAN MOON, Samuel H. b. 1775 TN mar. Susannah MOORE, James Robert b. 28 Nov 1872 Paris, Henry Co., TN mar May Belle Casteel NORRIS, John Green b. TN mar. Sarah WALLACE ORR, Eleazer Berry "EB" b. 1885 mar. Mary Ella SHIPMAN RIGGS, William C., Sr. died 16 Mar 1859 Belton-Nolan Cr, Bell Co. TX. mar. Naomi FLANNERY ("Billy"s parents were John and Jane) RIGGS, John b. AL, died 14 Mar 1859 in Indian Massacre west of Belton, BELL CO. TX. mar Jane PIERCE killed at same time RIGGS, Thomas, Sr. (possible father of John) RIGGS, Mattie Elizabeth b. 9 Apr 1864 White Co., ARK mar James Clark WHITELY, JR. RUDD, BULA MAE b. 1899 mar. Lloyd Patrick MCKINLEY SHIPMAN, Charles Joseph Barnett b. 1849 MS mar. Misellena Ansabelle Anderson SHIPMAN, John Turner b. 1822 TN mar. Charity M. MOON SIDES, Leonard b. 1760 mar Katherine MILLER died NC SIDES, Sophia b. 29 Jan 1825 mar. Mathias MELCHOR TEAGUE, John Skelton b. 1834 TX mar. Telitha Ann HALLMARK TEAGUE, Joseph C. b. 1788 mar. Susannah TUCKNESS, Henery b. 1797 TUCKNESS, Charles William b. 1866 mar. Georgia Avahart TEAGUE VISINAND, ESTIENNE b. 1609 mar. Andreaz DAUNET WAINSCOTT, Thornton Emmit b. 25 Sept Yadkin Valley, ROWAN CO., NC mar. Rebecca BOONE B. 23 Oct 1808 TN WAINSCOTT, Richard b. 1711 Southwark, Surry Co., ENGLAND, mar. Elizabeth or Mary WOOLUM WEEMS, William Riley mar. Susan "Natie" Ann TEAGUE WHISENHUNT, Ethel Corilla b. 1902 ARK mar Barney Tillman MASON WHISENHUNT, Josiah B. b. 1849 mar. Parthena E. WHITE WHISENHUNT, Joseph B. b. 1872 ARK mar Emily Lou "Etta" GREEN WHITE, Parthena E. b. 1847 mar. Josiah B. WHISENHUNT WHITE, John b. 1781 mar. Martha (possible father of Parthena) WHITELEY, James Clark, Sr. b. 1904 mar. Melinda BURKS WHITELEY, Viola Lou b. 1888 mar John T Haynes , Sr. Please contact me if you know of any connections to these people. Mrs. Charolete Corey, bccorey@ms1.hilconet.com or bccorey@admin.hilconet.com

It is interesting that this record was given of Olive Green, who named her second son Henry Green Edwards, yet there is no record found in Killingly of her marriage (though records were not required at this time) or her parentage. Rose Adams Vol. 4, No 2 Apr-June, 1986, p. 44-- This information is taken from The Edwards Journal of Rev. War Soldiers. PART XIII JOSEPH EDWARDS W21050 Service: Rhode Island Rank: Private Application for pension made by the veteran on 9 Apr 1818 at which time he was a resident of the town of Chester, Windsor Co, Dist. of Vermont. He gave his age as 65. He declared that he enlisted in Gloucester, Rhode Island, on the first of July 1775 in the company of Capt James Williams in the Reg. of Col. Daniel Hitchcock of the RI troops and continued to serve until the first day of Jan 1777 when he was discharged at Peekskill, in NY; that he afterwards served nine months in Capt Nathan __________ company; and that he was in the battle of Long Island. Certificate No. 16,147 was issued 26 Nov 1819 under the Act of 18 Mar 1818 to Joseph Edwards of Chester, Vermont, for service as a private in the regiment commanded by Col. Hitchcock of the RI line for a term of one year at $8 per month to commence 9 Apr 1818. On 26 Sept 1820, Joseph Edwards of the town of Lewis, Essex Co, NY, aged 66 years, declared that he owned no real estate, that his occupation is farmer, and that his wife is Olive Edwards, aged 64. On 9 Apr 1839, Olive Edwards of the town of Lewis, Essex Co, NY, aged 82, declared: that she is the widow of Joseph Edwards who was a private in the army of the Revolution, that she was married to the said Joseph Edwards the 26th day of Dec, 1780; that her husband died the 25th of May 1833; and that she has remained a widow ever since. Annexed to her application was the family record of the said Joseph Edwards. She further declared that she was married to the said Joseph Edwards in the town of Killingsly, Windham Co, Conn; that banns were published previous to their marriage and that the ceremonies were performed by an Elder Wright at his dwelling house in the presence of his family and that there was no one present except the family of the said clergyman. On 9 Apr 1839, Stephen Perry of the town of Lewis, Essex Co, NY, declared that he was well acquainted with Joseph and Olive Edwards, that Joseph died with the dropsy after a sickness of about 3 weeks, and that since the decease of the said Joseph Edwards, said Olive his widow hath resided in the house with this deponent and hath remained a widow. On 21 Dec 1838, Jonathan Dexter, the Town Clerk of Killingsley, Windham Co, Conn, certified that he had carefully examined the records and found no record containing the marriage of Joseph Edwards and Olive Green and that the state law in 1779 did not require a record of marriages to be kept by the town clerks. On 19 Aug 1839, Olive Edwards of the town of Lewis, Essex Co, NY, aged 82, declared that she was the widow of Joseph Edwards, that she was married to the said Joseph Edwards the 26th day of Dec 1780, that her husband the aforesaid Joseph Edwards died the 25th day of May 1833, and that she has remained a widow since then. Certificate No. 4559 was issued 12 Nov 1839 under the Act of July 7, 1838, to Olive Edwards, widow of Joseph Edwards, who died 25 May 1833, who was a private in the RI line for 1 year, at $40 per annum to commence 4 Mar 1836. On 19 June 1843, Olive Edwards, a resident of Fowler in St. Lawrence Co, NY, aged 85 years and ten months, declared: that she is the widow of Joseph Edwards who was a private in the RI Militia in which he served upwards of 3 years at different periods during the RW; that she was married to said Joseph Edwards in Killingsly, Conn. on the 26th day of Dec 1779; that he died on the 25th day of May 1834 in the town of Lewis, Essex Co, NY; that in Sept last she removed to the town of Fowler in the county of St. Lawrence, NY, where she still resides; and that she is still the widow of said Joseph Edwards. On 10 Mar 1846, Nathaniel P. Wardwell, Surrogate of the county of Jefferson, NY, certified that at a Surrogate Court this 10th day of Mar 1846, it was proven by testimony satisfactory to the court that Olive Edwards died in the town of Rodman, Jefferson Co, NY, on 23 Jan 1846, leaving as survivors four children, all of lawful age, viz: Henry Edwards, residing in Rodman, Jefferson Co, NY; Martin R. Edwards, residing in Diana, Lewis Co, NY; Ruth Kindall, wife of Jonathan Kindall, residing in Fowler, St. Lawrence Co, NY; and Robea Perry, wife of Stephen Perry, residing in parts unknown. The surrogate also certified that Henry Edwards had been duly appointed Administrator of the Estate of Olive Edwards. Certificate No. 2671 was issued 9 Nov 1843 under the Act of Mar 3, 1843, to Olive Edwards, widow of Joseph Edwards, at $40 per annum to commence on 4 Mar 1843. Page from Bible (faded, portions missing): Joseph Edwards.... married December 26 ye 1780 Ruth Edwards Borned in August the 8 ye 1781 Henry Edwards Borne in February 14 ye 1783 Marten Edwards Borne in September the 4 ye 1786 Susannah Edwards born in March 29 ye 1789 and Died August the 19 ye 1789 More to come....

I am interested in the information you have in connection to John Greene the Surgeon. -- Gary O. & Julianne L. Green "Crazy" is a relative term in MY family. mailto:ggreen@wilmington.net Home Page: http://localsonly.wilmington.net/ggreen/ggreen1.html Genealogy: http://localsonly.wilmington.net/ggreen/genelogy.html AFJROTC: http://localsonly.wilmington.net/ggreen/index.html Hope UMC: http://churches.wilmington.org/hopeumc/

The following article appeared in The Dallas Morning News. Should be of interest to all researching NC & TN. Harold in TX ------ LLOYD BOCKSTRUCK,ed. FAMILY TREE ---------- A New Guide To Ancestors In Tennessee --------- Among the states in the Union, Tennessee figures most prominently in the ancestry of Texans. In 1796, Tennessee was the 15th state to enter the Union, but settlers had lived there since Colonial times. Tennessee has no 1790, 1800 or 1810 census records, so it is difficult to find who lived in Tennessee or in what county a family resided. Because of a complex legal situation, the state of North Carolina continued to own all of the vacant lands in Tennessee until 1806, so genealogists must look to an entirely different jurisdiction to locate the relevant records for ancestors in Tennessee. Finding your Tennessee ancestors has become easier with the release of North Carolina's index to Tennessee land warrants. It is an alphabetical index containing names of individuals who had initiated the process to ac- quire lands in what is now Tennessee. North Carolina issued land warrants to individuals who had earned land as their bounty by fighting in the Continental Line during the Revolutionary War. The state also issued land warrants to individuals who purchased the right to lands in Tennessee. This new index includes both classes of landowners. A land warrant is an intermediate step in the land-granting process. You can expect to find the names of many individuals in the index who will never appear in the land grant index. Sometimes a person sold his warrant to another. Sometimes he died, and the grant was issued in the name of his heir. Sometimes he abandoned the property because of prospects of economic despair. The index gives the name of warrantee, the reel and frame numbers on the microfilm where the record may be found and the county where the land lay at the time of the grant. It is contained on microfiche. Since Tennessee was under the control of North Carolina during the Revolutionary War, the records of the "over the mountain men" from east Tennessee who routed the imperial British forces at the Battle of King's Mountain would be listed as North Carolina soldiers. The Tar Heel State has 10 rolls of Revolutionary Army Accounts. Unfortunately, the records have no predictable arrangement. They are not alphabetical, or by county or chronological. The series is being transcribed, with nine volumes finished, but it is far from completion. Fortunately, the North Carolina Archives has prepared an every-name microfiche index to the entire set. Many of these Revolutionary veterans appear in no other record. Because North Carolina militia records no longer survive, the army accounts are even more valuable. The General Levi Casey Chapter of the Daughters of the American Revolution has presented both of these magnificent sets to the Genealogy Section of the Dallas Public Library. The Library of Congress in Washington, D.C., is one of the largest libraries in the world, containing a wealth of information for genealogical research. Its collections of local history and genealogical material for the British Isles and Ireland are superb, second only to those collections relating to the United States. Judith P. Reid, the head of the library's Local History and Genealogy Reading Room, has compiled a guide, Family Ties in England. Scotland. Wales, & Ireland Sources for Genealogical Research, to assist researchers who come to the Library of Congress or other large research libraries with genealogical holdings. She has a chapter for each of the four locales and has arranged each one in bibliographical categories. Because of the close association of these four countries, you should study each chapter for relevant materials. It includes both book and nonbook formats and is a welcome addition indeed. It is available for $5.50 from the Superintendent of Documents, Box 371954, Pittsburgh, Pa. 152507954. It is stock number 03O-00l-174-1. Credit card orders are taken at (202) 512-1800 and fax orders at (202) 512-2250. The handling fee is $3.50. ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Lloyd Bockstruck is supervisor of the genealogy section of the J. Erik Jonsson Central Library. Write Family Tree, Today section, P.O. Box 655237, Dallas, Texas 75265.

Green-Rooters: My Green gr-gr-gr-grandparents are buried in old overgrown Hebron Cemetary in Pope County just southwest of Temple Hill,IL. His tombstone inscription reads: Benjamin Green b 8 Feb 1798 d 5 Sept 1877. Her's reads: Susanna wife of Benjamin Green 29 Sept 1800-July 6, 1867. Then I found a book of biographies of people in Massac County(an adjoining county),IL that mentioned that one of Benjamin's daughters was born in Scott County,VA. I found a man by that name there in the 1820 census but who can tell if he was the right one? I got Benjamin's War of 1812 pension file and it mentioned that he was still there in Scott County in 1850. Also it said that Susanna's maiden name was Bellamy.In the 1850 census for Scott County,VA page 359, it gives the following information: Benjamin Green 52 KY Susanna 49 VA(maiden name Bellamy) Nancy 29 VA Martha 27 VA Mary A. 24 VA Rebecca 21 VA Benjamin M.C. 17 VA Joseph 14 VA Mahala 12 VA George W. 10 VA Charlotte J. 8 VA Sarah S. 5 VA However, my GGGF John Wesley Green was not with this family. He was listed on page 140 with his own family: John Green 33 TN Elizabeth J. 27 TN( her name was Elizabeth Jane Lyon) Sarah 7 TN Mary 4 VA Susannah 2 VA Scott County,VA borders on Sullivan/Hawkins Counties in TN and my Greens seem to have wandered back and forth across that state line for whatever reasons they had.They left VA and went to Pope County in southern Illinois. Is there anyone out there who knows of any of these people?I'll take information on older Greens or any available on any of these eleven known children of Benjamin Green. All help gratefully accepted. Cheers, Boice

Hello Green Families, I am new to the list, and am researching the family of Drusilla Green born ca.1797,perhaps in New Jersey. She married Jonathan Abbott 2/15/1815 at Seneca Co NY. I suspect that her parents are Timothy Green born 1779 and his wife,Elizabeth(surname unknown). I would like to correspond with anyone having knowledge of this family. Thank you. Joyce Mason

Hi all, I subscribed to a library online recently for a month and there are tons of GREENES and GREENS in books on there. This may be of interest to some of you wondering about name changes. I have a bunch of stuff about the early Greenes if anyone wants it. I have not included the source here. If you want it,-e-mail me or if you want this whole family. JO THE AMERICAN PATERNAL ANCESTORS OF SARAH GREEN. "The progenitor of the Greene family of New England was John Greene, who came from England in 1620 and settled at Salem, Mass. In 1637 he moved his family to Providence, Rhode Island. Their ancestors were originally from Wales. They were Quakers from Salisbury, England. John had sons John, James and Thomas. James2 was the head of the branch of the family from which General Nathaniel Greene sprung. The head of our branch of the family was his brother Thomas, who had three sons, James2, Jeremiah and Gardner. Grandfather, James Green, moved to Western Massachusetts in 1770 from Providence, Rhode Island, and located in Berkshire County on the mountain about the same distance from the villages of Lanesborough and Hancock. He had sons Jeremiah, Russel and Gardner. Russel was my father1. He was a soldier in the Revolutionary War. <snip> CHANGE OF SPELLING OF THE NAME. It appears on the Revolutionary War records that the spelling of the name Greene was changed at that time by dropping the final letter from the whole of the various branches of the family in Western Massachusetts. This may have occurred through the carelessness of the enrolling officer, and have become necessary in all subsequent intercourse with the government officials to enable them to substantiate the identity of the various individuals of that name, having claims against the government. A COPY OF THE PAY ROLL OF RUSSEL GREENE AND OTHERS. Russell Green of Hancock, Mass. Commonwealth of Massachusetts. Office of Secretary, Boston, April 1, 1892. Revolutionary Rolls. Vol. 4, p. 157. A Pay Role for the Six Months Men who Served for the Town of Lanesborough in the year 1780. John Green Marched to Camp July 9th, Discharged Dec. 12th, 1780. Clark Green " " " " " " Duty Green " " " " " " Russell Green " " " " Dec. 6th, " Jabez Green " " " " Jan. 9th, " Chase Green " " " " Dec. 5th, " I certify the foregoing to be a true extract from the Revolutionary War Archives on deposit in this Office. Witness the Seal of the Commonwealth. Wm. M. Olin, Secretary. "Department of the Interior. Bureau of Pensions. Washington, D. C., Oct. 11, 1901. <snip> The military history of Russell is also included after the above.

Hi Bob!! I have owed you a note for what seems like forever. Thank you ever so much for all the data you sent me!!! I have been turning it over and over and connecting it all every which way and having a wonderful time (even though some nights I have the oddest dreams about doing geneology research!). I can't thank you enough! For starters, there were omissions in the census data I had for Rutherford County that would have made it impossible to ever straighten things out, and for the rest I just had indexes. It's wonderful what actual data can do. I am actually getting somewhere. I don't know whether you saw the post I put up about the "up-stream" Shadrack that ended up in Burke/Yancy/Mitchell county. Having done a preliminary on that I'm working on the next step, which is sorting out the Rutherford end of things. In 1790 we have 3 Shadracks in Rutherford County, and we only have one verified marriage (the one to Mary GAGE in 1782). I have always been sort of leery of that marriage as a source of the later descendants of our Shadrack of the 1847 Will, as I believe you have. A quick look at the 1790 census data supports this discomfort -- all three men are living with women, but only the elder one (45 yrs +) has any children by 1790! It is very hard to believe that a young couple would fail to produce at least one child in an eight-year time span, so that makes the wife of the older couple the most likely one to be Mary Gage. But she's 45+ years old in 1790, and it's impossible that she would produce any kids thereafter! It is my contention that Mary GAGE did marry the elder Shadrack, and that she was a widow. I am supported in that belief in the facts that she was listed on the 1782 Tax List (meaning she was a Head of Household at that time). An available widow in her mid-thirties with land would be a rather attractive mate to a man in his mid-thirties with grown children who need homesteads of their own. Now, the children listed with the elder Shad. in 1790 may be Mary GAGE's from her earlier marriage, and that may in fact be the case with the girls -- they are gone by 1800, and they are more likely to have lived with their widowed mother at a later age than their brothers would have. In the 1800 census the elder Shadrack has only his two sons left, one each in the 10-16 and 16-25 categories. It's unlikely that the widower Shadrack traveled with a small child, so the earliest the elder son could have been born is 1883 which would make him at most 17 yrs. Most likely Mary produced these two boys within the span of five or six years before the end of her fertile life. THESE TWO would be the only GREENs whose mother was Mary GAGE and they would be born 1783-1789 AND NO LATER. What about the younger Shadracks of the 1790 census? Here we're on shakier ground, but from J R McKinney (hamrick@home.com) we get a whiff of a scent -- he wrote <<I have Shadrack b 1760 m Nancy Gage and Shadrack b 1770 m Martha "Patsy" Jones">> Unsupported, but worth examining for likelyhood. The two younger Shadracks are both born 1755-1775 according to the census data, which puts them in the realm of possibility. How to decide which goes to which? I'll make a more detailed arguement later, but the basic outline is this: our "1847 Will" Shadrack's children have descendants named Martha but none named Nancy, while the "up-stream" Shadrack dies between 1810 and 1820, and in the 1810's somewhere ( I have to look it up) a whole bunch of people (prob. descendants of this Shad) deed over land in Rutherford to a Nancy GREEN -- she is found in the Rutherford Census as a Head of Household in the 1830 and 1840 censuses and the ages align. So, for my money I say Nancy GAGE married "up-stream" Shadrack while it was Martha "Patsy" JONES who married our man "1847 Will" Shadrack. How do you like them apples? Emily

Excellent Information at these URLs re: Greens and other surnames. Diane 1. Marriage list: <A HREF="ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/va/fauquier/vitals/fauqmarr.txt"> fauqmarr.txt at ftp.rootsweb.com (FTP)</A> 2. <A HREF="http://www.futureone.com/~burgess/roster.htm">Fauquire County Revolutionary Soldiers</A> 3.<A HREF="http://www.futureone.com/~burgess/1800tax.htm">Fauquier County 1800 Tax List</A>

Does anyone know who Philemon Green is and to what family he belongs? On Page 17 of the "Historical Notes on Amelia County, Virginia" Edward Bookers lists Philemon Green as having 1000 acres in his 1749 tithables. Thanks Bill ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Hello! Most of the Greens in this forum seem to be based in the US, but I thought I'd take a chance... Our Green family originates in Londonderry and Bangor, Ireland with Yonge Rennie Green (possibly a chemist in Ireland), born Jan 1871, who came to Canada (Belfast to Montreal to Winnipeg, Manitoba) in 1908 with his oldest children. His wife, Martha Jane Patterson (daughter of Robert Patterson and Margaret Thompson) born Dec 1895 in Belfast, followed in 1910 with the younger children. The children of Yonge Rennie Green and Martha Patterson are: 1. Margaret Jane Green. B. Nov. 1896 in Ireland. D. Jun 1970 in Winnipeg, Manitoba. 2. Robert Rennie Green. B. Feb 1897 in Londonderry, Ireland. D. 1966 in Porcupine Plains, Saskatchewan. 3. Agnes Alexandra Green. B. Apr 1900 in Bangor, Ireland. D. 1981 in Winnipeg, Manitoba. 4. George Rennie Green. B. May 1902 in Ireland. D. 1977 in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan. 5. James Rennie Thompson Green. B. May 1905 in Ireland. D. Dec 1946 in Edmonton, Alberta. 6. Cora Emily Elberta Green. B. Jun 1911 in Winnipeg, Manitoba. D. Jan 1957 in Montreal, Quebec. 7. Ellen Elizabeth Rennie Green. b. Sep 1917 in Winnipeg, Manitoba. D. May 1993 in Winnipeg. (Do you think Yonge Rennie Green's Mother's maiden name might have been "Rennie"?) We really don't know much about the Green family before their leaving Ireland and would really like to hear from anyone who thinks they may know of ties. Thanks! Shelley Hilton British Columbia, Canada rstrhilt@axion.net

Hi Green Family, Am newcomer. Looking for parents of GREEN, William "Bill" T., Sr. b. July 1849 ARK. Father b. SC, Mother b. MISS. Married Susan BLACKWOOD (b. Nov 1849 ARK to Andrew J. and Mary M. BLACKWOOD.Her father ANDREW J. BLACKWOOD, SR. b. MISS. and mother MARY ____ b. AL.) Mar. abt. 1872. Children: 1) GREEN, Richard A. (b. ARK. later married Ineen ____.) 2) GREEN, Emily Lou "Etta" (b. 8 Dec. 1877 in ARK. Later married Joseph "Benjamin" Whisenhunt b. Jan. 1872 ARK. They married around1897/98 ARK.) MY LINE. 3) GREEN, William T., Jr., (b. May 1879 ARK.) 4) GREEN, Sarah A. (b. Jan. 1882 ARK.) 5) GREEN, Robert L. (b. May 1885 ARK) 6) GREEN, George W. (b. Nov. 1887 ARK,) 7) GREEN, Mattie C. (b. Nov. 1892 ARK.) 8) GREEN, Gracie P. (b. May 1895 ARK.) William "Bill" GREEN, Sr. and wife Susan (BLACKWOOD) GREEN are found on the Muddy Fork Township, HOWARD CO., ARK., 22 June 1900 Federal Census Report, House #165, GREEN, WM. age 50, farmer, , Susan A. (Note: Muddy Fork may have later been called DIERKES, HOWARD CO., ARK. or have been near there.) The couple are living next door to her daughter's family, Joseph BENJAMIN WHISENHUNT and EMILY LOU "ETTA" (GREEN) WHISENHUNT. (Emily Lou "Etta" Green Whisenhunt was my great-grandmother.) In this same Federal Census of 1900, they are shown living near Susan (BLACKWOOD) GREEN'S mother and brothers.... Family # 177 BLACKWOOD, Mary M. (Widowed) BLACKWOOD, Johnson W. (son) BLACKWOOD, Brad S. (son) BLACKWOOD, Alen or Alex (brother-in-law) Family #176 BLACKWOOD, Andrew BLACKWOOD, Mary H. (wife) BLACKWOOD, George W. (son) BLACKWOOD, Henry E. (son) BLACKWOOD, Claud V. (son) BLACKWOOD, Dotta A. (daughter) Family #178 BLACKWOOD, William B., Sr. BLACKWOOD, Mary E. (wife) BLACKWOOD, William B., Jr. (son) BLACKWOOD, General W. (son) BLACKWOOD, Sular (daughter) BLACKWOOD, Jennie (daughter) BLACKWOOD, Ras. W. (son) BLACKWOOD, Lillian L. (daughter) BLACKWOOD, Butler H. (son) BLACKWOOD, Olie (son) Please contact me if you have any information concerning William T. Green, Sr., especially his father's name, or about any of these people. PS. We survived the DEL RIO area FLOOD! Mrs. Charolette Corey PO Box 1002 Brackettville, Tx. 78832 (830) 563-2121 o

In a message dated 98-09-01 09:45:12 EDT, you write: << The William GREEN (b. England, d. 1721/2 in NJ) who married Joanna Reeder lists an Isaac in his will. Do you know anything about this Isaac? Emily >> Hi Emily, All I know about this Isaac Green is that he was the son of William and Joanna Reeder Green. If you have seen the will of William Green, you know that Isaac Green was a minor in 1721 and his father left him forty pounds when he was age 21. There are others on the Green list that have more info than I on this family, and I will post this message in hopes someone will be able to give you additional info. Good Luck, Tom Green

Dear Green/e list: Does anyone have the details of Green/e households in the State of Tennessee 1850 Federal Census? Matthew Green was a farmer from Tennessee. His age would make him about 17 in 1850. Matthew may be the brother of a John A. Green or Greene. Matthew enlisted in the Confederacy unit of Stand Watie's Cherokee Braves as a 2d lieutenant on 12 July 1861 and at his enlistment was aged 28, 6 feet tall with light hair and blue eyes; he was . Your help would be appreciated very much, especially you Greens from Tennessee where so many Greens come from. -- Tim mailto:phwalls@prodigy.net

I;ve been looking for MCGLONE connections to Ireland for some time now, without success. A few weeks ago, I visited my cousin Rosemary, for the first time in 60 years. (No one can accuse us of being a close family. The same week I visited another cousin I had never seen in 67 years, though we lived, essentially, in the same town. The pursuit of genealogy can work wonders.) Anyway, Cousin 1 told me that our common ggmother, B RIDGET AGNES MCGLONE (1845-1917) had the family name Green(e). Both she (Bridget) and John McGlone(1844-1888) emigrated, probably directly, to Binghamton, NY, US of A, in or before 1870, their first child Mary A. having been born in 1871. I had put this to an Irish list and was advised to extend it to the Green list. I accordingly subscribed and lurked for several days. I now submit my inquiry and retire to lurk for a response. Thanks, DLM

Hi Tom. Sorry it took me so long to get back to you, but I¹ve been consuming data and trying to digest it all. Bob Wall sent me some photocopies of census data and the like and I think I¹ve started to get a handle on things. There are three Shadracks living in Rutherford County for the 1790 and 1800 censuses. Leaving aside where two of them went, we do know that one of them went ³up-stream² to Burke County. Using Burke County census data 1800-1810 and Yancey County census data 1850-1860 and Mitchell County census data 1870, ( with a little support from Tense Banks) I have the following descent outiline from ³up-stream² Shadrack. It¹s to be considered strictly tentative, and I need more census data to work on the proper distribution of ³up-stream² Shadrack¹s grandchildren and whatnot. In this alignment, your ³Shady² also known as ³Shadrack Jr² is a first or second son of ³up-stream² Shadrack and father to ³Lame Joe² Joseph also known as ³Joseph Jr.² ³Shady² is also brother to ³Joseph Sr.² Let me know what you think. Emily ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. SHADRACH GREEN was born 1755-1775 in NC, and died between 1810 and 1820. He had a wife before 1790 and six children before 1800 in Rutherford Co, NC Children of SHADRACH GREENE and (unknown) are: A. Shadrack GREEN (b. 1790-1792) m. Elizabeth (b. 1880) B. Joseph GREEN (b. abt. 1790) m. Mary b. 1797 ? C. ??? (b. 1790-1793) m. Anna b. 1797 D. James? male (b. 1794-1800) E. Aaron? male (b. 1794-1800) F.??? female (b. 1794-1800) G. Elijah? male (b. 1800-1810) H. ???male (b. 1800-1810) I. ???female (b. 1800-1810) A. Shadrack GREEN (b. 1790-1792) m. Elizabeth (b. 1880) i. ???female (b.bef.1810) (poss. prior family for Eliz.) ii. Simon (b. 1812? - d. bef 1850?) m. Dorothy (b. 1815) iii. Joseph L GREEN (b. 1814) m. Polly BLACK iii. James GREEN (b. 1816) m. Sarah (b.1818) (widow POOR) iv. John GREEN (b. 1821) m. Mary A. (b. 1824) v. Shadrack GREEN (b. 1822) m. Elizabeth DICKEY (b. 1822) vi. Thomas GREEN (b. 1823) m. Catherine vii. Marvel GREEN (b.1827) m. Mary (b. 1831) B. Joseph GREEN (b. 1790-1792) m. Mary (b. 1797) ? i. Joseph GREEN (b. 1829) m. Nancy c. 1831 ii. William GREEN (b. 1831) iii. Aaron GREEN (b.1834) iv. Stephen GREEN (b. 1838) v. Nathan GREEN (b. 1842) C. ???GREEN (poss Benjamin?) m. Anna (b. 1797) i. Adolphus GREEN (b.1827) m. Jemima?Winna? A. (b. 1830-1834) ii. Josiah GREEN (b. 1831) iii. Joseph GREEN (b.1834) iv. Martha L. GREEN (b. 1835)

Is anyone on this list familiar with the Greenes in Holly Springs,MS {1850} mentioned in "The New Man" by Henry Clay Bruce ? If so, I would like to hear from you. TIA Marietta <pollyanna@snowcrest.net>

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Chris Florence, SC -----Original Message----- From: Butch Butler [mailto:bbutler@awod.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 1998 12:10 PM To: NCROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: 43 VA families>>NC Fellow researchers, I have no idea who originated this document. I have had it on file since about 1993 & had actually forgotten about it until recently when I was doing some "housekeeping" on my harddrive. regards, Butch Butler Charleston, SC ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ A Community in Movement (From Northumberland to the Neuse) (Synopsis: This article presents evidence of the migration in the 18th century of 43 families from Northumberland County on the Northern Neck to the north shore of the Neuse near Pamlico Sound. The two areas are geographically similiar, although the Potomac area was more accessible to early colonists and hence settled first.) Primary impetus to the settlement of the Northern Neck came with the conflict between William Claiborne's Isle of Kent colony from Virginia and the political administration of Maryland. Many of the Isle of Kent settlers, and quite a few other Marylanders, located after 1650 on the south shore of the Potomac. Some of the Kent islanders moved into the area that later became known as St. Stephens Parish in Northumberland County. They settled around the Coan and the Mattapony (now called South Yeocomico) Rivers. In 1652 the authorites at Jamestown required Virginians to sign an Oath of Allegiance to the "Commonwealth of England as it is now established without King or House of Lordes". Among the Northumberland signers were Claughton, Gaskins, Lee, Medcalfe, Powell, Reynolds, and Walker. The first name relates to a "Maryland immigrant" of 1641 to New Kent Isle: James Cloughton, wife Jane, and son James, with five men servants. This man may have died in the Kent Island wars; his inventory appears inrecords of Northumberland County court in 1647. James, Jr, 18 at that time and the signer of the oath, must have had both money and friends; court records over the next two decades show him taking out many acres, independently and in partnership with others. He became one of the larger landholders in the Mattapony area. Many subsequent deeds are described in relation to the Claughton property. Some of it is identified as being adjacent to the "Gleabe". The activites of the Anglican ministers give special colour to the early scene. In 1662 Rev. David Lyndsay faced a fine of 10000 lbs of tobacco; he had married a servant of Col Richard Lee to another man's servant without Lee's consent. Lyndsay appealed this to James City, and the decision was overturned. He died in 1667, and we find James Clayton a witness to his will. We also find James Claughton in the early fifties charging Nathaniel Pope (great, great grandfather of George Washington) with taking three of his cows. Unfortunately when Pope alledged `non est factum', Claughton could not prove his case and had to pay the costs of court. There may have been bad blood between Claughton and Pope stemming from 1647 when Pope was Maryland's agent at Kent Island. John Farnefold, another distinguished clergyman, came to the area about 1671. He served as minister of the Mattapony community, which after 1698 was called St. Stephens. Farnefold, too, went to the capital and became one of the promoters and original trustees of the College of William and Mary. His uncommon name provided the link enabling this writer to discover a large group migration from the Northern Neck to the north bank of the Neuse at Pamlico Sound. (I later learned that this link was known to Craven County people before I "discovered" it.) One who studies the north bank of the Neuse finds first of all that among the earliest settlers there were two men named Farnifold and Titus Green. Farnifold! Sure enough the St. Stephens parish register shows that Farnsfield and Titus Green were born to Timothy in 1674 and 1676. Timothy Green had property on the Mattapony adjacent to the Claughton property and to the Gleabe. His sons were in North Carolina before the end of the century. An early record describing N.C. immigration appears in the NGS Quarterly in 1937, "Emigrants to Bath County, N.C. 1695-1702". It contains a list of emigrants and the people who brought them, thus securing head rights. This shows that about 1700 Farnefould Green, Thomas Lepper, and Richard Smith all served as small scale importers of settlers to the newly established Bath County. Green and Smith were undoubtedly from Northumberland, and Thomas Lepper had been transported to Stafford County in the Northern Neck in 1669 by William Green! (Within 11 years Lepper had settled in Albemarle where he became marhsall and later justice in Perquimons Precinct.) In 1707 Farnifold recorded a patent of 1700 acres on the Neuse between Green's Creek and Broad Creek (now known as Smith's Creek). In 1709 Christopher Dawson purchased land from Farnifold Green, some of which he immediately signed over to "my son Francis Green". Some authorities claim that Dawson's Creek was there before Farnifold took out his first patent. Back in Virginia in 1705 Christopher Dawson had followed John Claughton by a few years as constable in St. Stephens, but by 1708 there was another constable, and we hear no more of Christopher Dawson in Northumberland (for the time being). A full generation after Green and Dawson one of the more prominent families of St. Stephens parish also made the move. Christopher Neale, John Farnefold's vestryman and fellow promoter of the College of William and Mary, was justice in Northumberland over the period from 1679 to 1717 (father and son). In 1702 one of them was an executor for his pastor's will. The younger Neale died about 1726. In 1740 Abner Neale, probably the grandson of the elder Christopher, acquired 170 acres on Orchard Creek, in the midst of the Northumberland - Neuse community. In 1761 a later Christopher Neale began to live at the former estate of mariner John Pindar at the mouth of Dawson Creek. He had bought it from William Palmer (probably from another Northern Neck family), and by 1771 Christopher had become Craven County Clerk of Court. Study of the Neuse land records suggests that the Greens and the Dawsons were followed by many of their Northern Neck neighbors. Even a casual comparison of the names of these two areas reveals a startling convergence: Banks, Betts, Bond, Bradshaw, Churchill, Conway, Fulcher, Fulford, Gaskins, Gording, Hammontree, Harris, Hall, Hancock, Lee, Lambert, Linton, Lyndsay, McOtter, Medcalfe, Nelms, Nelson, Northern, Oliver, Palmer, Pierce, Presley, Price, Rice, Reynolds, Rowe, Shapley, Squires, Sullivant, Tomson, Tignor, Tolson, Walker, Wallis, Wright. The one thing all these names have in common is that they occured in early St. Stephens records (or in Northumberland County court records) and some years later on the Neuse. So it seems that members of good many of these families went from one place to the other. The migration took place over a period of several decades. (One caveat to the above list is that Hall, Harris, Walker, and Wright all belong among the 30 most common names in Virginia.) Other common names also coincide, but are not included. Some other names are more problematical, nevertheless interesting. Wm. Powell and John Davis appear repeatedly in early Virginia patents. It seems likely they may have been seamen, who were frequently counted among the headrights of the large landowners. The names, rather common of course, appear in both counties in question. William Powell, after repeated mention in Nugent as a "Pioneer", seems in 1679 to have achieved the status of "Cavalier" with 257 acres in Isle of Wight County. John Powell, likely a brother or son, took land adjoining William. Powell must have been one of the earliest settlers on the Neuse because Powells Creek was there before the turn of the century. In 1741 John Powell was a justice in Craven County Court. We also read that in 1703 the 1702 head right collector Thomas Lepper sold his rights "to an entry of land in Neuse River" to William Powell. In 1653 a John Powell had served with James Claughton and Thomas Gaskins on a Northumberland County jury. John Powell in fact had been a crew member of James Claughton's ship when they both came to Maryland about 1638. Whether it was his family that settled on the Neuse remains for further research to determine. Many other Northumberland names don't quite qualify for the list because they came from an area a little distance from Mattapony or because they settled in an area a little distance from the mouth of the Neuse. For example Robert Sedgrave appears in the very earliest records of Northumberland county, one of those who crossed over from Maryland about 1650. 100 years later Thomas Sitgreaves of New Bern was militia captain of the unit to which James Clayton belonged. In 1650 Capt. Jno Rogers was assignee to 250 acres on Cloughton's Creek, next to the Gleab. Eighty years later Mr. Jno Rogers petitioned Craven County Court for a jury to build a road from Slocumb's Creek. It appears that a number of the northern Virginia immigrants may have stopped in southern Virginia on their way to the Neuse. Others stopped in other counties in North Carolina. In Hyde County for example we find the names Clayton, Hall, Davis, Palmer, and Wright, and all of these families arrived on the Neuse a few years later. John Swillivant, a striking name, appears in Northumberland and Hyde, but not on the Neuse. In 1689 James Claughton had married Joan Swillivant, the widow of Dennis. In 1704 Robert Palmer and Thomas Gaskins were in Northumberland County court on the same day, and in 1720 neighbors in Pasquotank County. In Craven County in 1761 William Palmer sold a home place to Christopher Neale, very close to Thomas Gaskins! The Palmers actually had property in four or five counties. A stay-at-home Thomas Gaskins became the primary military leader in Northumberland County during the Revolution. Meanwhile Robert Palmer rose to the office of surveyor general and then councilor in North Carolina. But a few years later he made the list of Loyalists whose property was confiscated by the revolutionary forces. Thomas Harding in 1716 took 700 acres on the south side of Pamplico River. 50 years before James Claughton had made over 100 acres to Thomas Harding adjoining his own property on the Mattapony. Capt. Peter Knight appears on the 1679 list of tithables in Northumberland. (He went to the House of Burgesses a number of times). In 1766 Peter Knight, merchant, lived in New Bern. All these observations (and many more!) ensued from the writer's attempt to trace the ancestry of James Clayton of Craven County. Clayton appears on the Craven county tax list in 1769 with 5 slaves. Although the Claughton family in Mattapony sometimes spelled their name as Clayton, no immediate connection has been established. However there are some strong suggestions: In 1767 James Clayton bought land on both sides of the Lower Broad from John Carruthers and later the same year, more land from Thomas Delamar. He and his children continued to acquire property in the area for the next 40 years. He named a daughter Tompson, while Thompsons, Thomsons, and Tomsons occur in Northumberland Co. In fact we also find Clayton marriages with the Halls, Dawsons, Lamberts, Neales, Presleys, and Wrights. The circumstantial evidence, built up name by name, gradually became overwhelming. James Clayton bought land in Hyde County in 1758 from another James Clayton, perhaps his father. (It is very likely that members of this family lived in Bladen and Edgecombe counties before settling in Hyde and later in Craven. A computer study showed additional names that the two areas have in common. I compared a 1679 tax list from Northumberland with a 1751 militia list in Craven county and found the following additional names in common: John Bryant, Clark, Cox, Dunn, Edwards, Griffin, Hill, Howard, Lewis, Miller, John Parker, Ross, Stephens, John Taylor, White, Williams, Wilson. No claim is made about these names, but the data may be helpful in the search for family relationships. Comparison of other similar lists would no doubt yield other correspondences. The probability of significant correspondences of course diminishes with the commonness of the names. In a study of this sort one should remember that although some members of these families moved, others remained. On a recent trip to the Mattapony area, now called Callao, the writer found among others the following signs and mailboxes: Many Dawsons; many Halls and Halls Creek is the next one over from Claughton's mill creek; Thompson Creek at head of W Yeocomico in Westmoreland; Harris; Neel; Palmer; Peirce; Price; Reynolds; Walker. Many of these people have been living just about where their ancestors lived for the past 300 years. I wonder how many of them know it. And how many know that they have (distant!) cousins in present day Pamlico County? The main sources for this article were Elizabeth Moore's Records of Craven County and Beverly Fleet's Va Colonial Abstracts, especially the four volumes he devoted to Northumberland County. Even casual comparison of these two works should convince the reader of striking similarities of names in the two settlements. Other important sources were Nugent's Cavaliers and Pioneers, Hofman's Province of N.C. and Colony of N.C. and N.C.Colonial Records and N.C. State Records (especially for the 1790 Craven County census). Craven County Court Books, edited by Weynette Parks Haun, and Dr. Booker's Northumberland County Wills produced valuable information. N.C. wills were consulted at the N.C. Archives. USGS Quadrangle maps of both areas also proved helpful. Anyone desiring to give or receive further information about the families listed here should leave message on this bulletin board to Larry Clayton or write him at 6701 Hallwood Ave., Falls Church, VA 22046. ______________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. --part0_904674310_boundary--

Help!! I have searched and searched for info on this George W. GREEN's family. He is listed as a school teacher in Lauderdale Co,AL on the 1850 census. There are a lot of GREEN's in the area but I can't tie him to any of them. WHO is he and WHERE did he come from? Thanks, JR GREEN