Hi Mark and list, This was on the free Ancestry.com website for DAR applications. Don't know if it's the one you had. You can probably find Isaac Greens at: http://members.aol.com/HorseSpot/index.html http://localsonly.wilmington.net/~ggreen/genelogy.html http://al7fl.abts.net/green-page/green.htm http://www.hal-pc.org/~wmewrght/ The National Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution Volume 109 Mrs. Elizabeth A. Weaver Forsyth. DAR ID Number: 108398 Born in Coventry, R. I. Wife of Robert Forsyth. Descendant of Corp. Isaac Greene, as follows: 1. Rufus Weaver (1792-1868) m. 1822 Mehitable Greene (1804-90). 2. James Greene (1764-1839) m. 1790 Eunice Case Hopkins (1769-1852). 3. Isaac Greene m. 1754 Mary Weaver (b. 1739). Isaac Greene (1724-1807) served 1777, as corporal in Capt. Samuel Wall's company, from Coventry, R. I., where he was born and died. ---------- > From: Mark Bramlette <mbramlette@earthlink.net> > To: GREEN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [GREEN-L] Corp. Isaac Greene, R.I., American Revolution > Date: Saturday, September 05, 1998 10:28 AM

Hi Emily and List, Checked out the Ancestry site and found these references to Shadrack Greens. Don't know if any are what you're searching for but thought I'd pass it along. Ancestry has info on all these people and a gedcom to download if you think you're interested. JO Marriages--Georgia to 1850 Georgia,Jackson County Green, Shadrack married Short, Nelly on 08 Dec 1816 in Jackson County, Georgia Ancestry World Tree -- Family Information Husband:Shadrack Green Father:      Mother:     Wife:Mary Gage Father:      Mother:     Marriage Date:20 Dec 1782 Marriage Place:NC Children: Sarah Green Joseph Green (See below) John Green Anselom Green Elizabeth Green Cornelius Green Enoch Green Lavinia Viney Green Abner Green Elijah Green Marvel Green Dicey Green Rachel Green Husband:Joseph Green Father:Shadrack Green Mother: Mary Gage Wife:Sarah Mooney Father:      Mother:     Marriage Date:1816 Marriage Place:Warren Co, TN Children:Viney Green Girl Green Shadrack Green (See below) James Mooney Green (See below) Husband:Shadrack Green Father: Joseph Green   Mother:   Sarah Mooney Wife:Mary Ann Compton Father:      Mother:     Marriage Date:6 Jun 1840 Marriage Place: Warren Co, TN Children: Nancy K Green Sarah Green Matthew Compton Green Joseph S. Green Lavinah Green Sampson Wiley Dotson Green Isaac Denton Green James H. Green Ozias Denton Green John Calhoun Breckinridge Green Lewis Napoleon Bonaparte Green Francis Marion Green Husband:James Mooney Green (First Marriage) Father:   Joseph Green   Mother:   Sarah Mooney Wife:Elizabeth Nunn Father:      Mother:     Marriage Date:7 Nov 1839 Marriage Place:Warren Co, TN Children: Martha Green Elias Nunn Green Sarah Elizabeth Green Mary A. Green Husband:James Mooney Green (Second marriage) Father:   Joseph Green  Mother:   Sarah Mooney Wife:Sarah Womack Father:      Mother:     Marriage Date:4 Aug 1846Marriage Place:Warren Co, TN Children: Susan Louvina Green Ozias Denton Green Shadrack Green (See below) Arsey M. Green Henrietta Green Joseph R. Green Nancy Green James M. Green Husband:James Mooney Green (Third marriage) Father:   Joseph Green  Mother:   Sarah Mooney Wife:Mary Angeline Mullican Father:      Mother:     Marriage Date:14 Dec 1884 Marriage Place:Warren Co, TN Children: Cornelius Cleveland Green Ancestry World Tree -- Family Information Husband:Shadrack Green Father:   James Mooney Green   Mother:   Sarah Womack Wife:Elizabeth Smith Father:      Mother:     Marriage Date:6 Dec 1869 Marriage Place:Warren Co, TN ----------

Ok, now I am thoroughly confused :) Not that unusual, however. Which of these Shadracks b. abt 1810, married a Malesa (Nunley, I believe.)? Thanks, Laurie Greene James

Well said Laurie! I too have found the info useful, even if not directly related to me. The "Chat Room" discussions have often given me ideas on avenues of research which hadnt occured to me before. Plus, someday Im hoping that someone in their "chat room discussion" will yeild that one shred of info that will help me to find my elusive Charles FM Greene. I hope all will continue to communicate any and all Greene/Green info via this list, including discussions!!!! as the bantying around of ideas and info is what this genealogy is all about. Thank you one and all, you are a great bunch and make me proud to be "Greene"!! , in fact your the best bunch of researchers Ive encountered on the net. The quality of info passed around is second to no other list. Sue Pawley trottr@icanect.net ---------- > From: LaurieJoy@aol.com > To: GREEN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [GREEN-L] Common Courtesy > Date: Saturday, September 05, 1998 12:09 AM > > >Since most of us subscribers want to see pertinent information related to > >our forebears on this service, why don't those of you who want to answer > >someone's specific question go to their specific email address and stop > >"spamming" the rest of us with your chat-room messages? > > Well, Bill, as one Green who can't find diddly-squat on pertinent information > related to my Greens forebears, I personally enjoy "listening in" on specific > conversations between members of this group. I actually learn things. > Moral: One Man's (or woman's ) SPAM is another's learning experience. > Laurie Greene James > > >

For Bob, Jim, Ron, Joe, Ron, Charles, and J R, and whoever is "listening in": Bob was generous enough to share with me a letter he received from John Edwards on the subject of the three Shadrack GREENs of Rutherford County, and their relations. This man spent twenty years on the subject and deserves a hearing. I have used ellipses to remove the personal or irrelevant material -- use your delete button if I am boring you. "Letter to Robert L. Wall from John Edwards, Family Researcher. Dear Robert, You will see from these census in 1790 we had 3 Shadrack Greens. Only one of them had any children [then] we think he was the one who married Mary Gage.... All three of the Shadrack Greens left Rutherford Co in 1806 with John Collis who married Hannah Buchanan and William Buchanan and Elizabeth Jones. There was 14 families that left together in 1806 that went to Burke Co, now Mitchell Co. One of these Shadrack Green was supposed to have married Nancy Jones dau. of John Jones. One of these Shadrack Greens came back to Rutherford Co about 1815 and moved next door to Stephen Jones son of John Jones and a sister [sic] of Nancy Jones who was supposed to have married a Shadrack Green. The Shadrack Green also bought his land when he came back to Rutherford Co from Stephen Jones I have a copy of it so he could be the Shadrack Green that married Nancy Jones. The John Green that married a Elizabeth Jones here and went to Mitchell co , NC about 1796 with Joseph Buchanan that married Sarah Jones, dau of John Jones. Aaron Burleson , [and] 2 McKinney families also went with them....We also know that John Green had a son Shadrack Green who was dead in 1855 when his brother was trying to get some money from the father¹s pension in 1855. Each one of these Shadrack had a son Shadrack Green so it makes it hard to trace them. You have to work the Jones, Buchanan and Greens to try to get them strung out. We do know the Shadrack that married Mary Gage can¹t be the one who died in Cleveland Co in 1846. He didn¹t have children till 1800 [sic] and the one that married Mary Gage in 1882 would have had children before 1800. ... there were 3 Sharacks in 1790, 3 in 1800, none in Rutherford in 1810.... There are 2 in 1810 Burke Co, one with a J. This could possibly be Shadrack Jones Green, and not a Jr. The Shadrack in the 1820 Burke is not the same one in 1830 .... I have been working on those family for 20 years. John"

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------95F933F27CC43FAEEF3DE6CB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fellow Green-Rooters: Bill doesn't like his messages put out for public display but I thought that it appropriate that everyone should see his message to me. :-) Cheers, Boice --------------95F933F27CC43FAEEF3DE6CB Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.16]) by stork.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07583 for <burnsba@earthlink.net>; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 09:58:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id LAA02755 for <burnsba@earthlink.net>; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 11:58:50 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199809051658.LAA02755@dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com> Received: from rea-pa2-20.ix.netcom.com(204.32.160.84) by dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma002748; Sat Sep 5 11:58:24 1998 Subject: Re: [GREEN-L] Re Bill's Common Courtesy notes Date: Sat, 5 Sep 98 12:58:52 -0400 x-sender: kkean@popd.ix.netcom.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Kelvin Kean <kkean@ix.netcom.com> To: "Boice Burns" <burnsba@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sorry, I see them as an abuse of the hospitality of the rest of the list and something that anyone beyond the age of 13 would understand. There is nothing inherently wrong with the messages, but why send copies to the list or use the list like some kind of bulletin board for private messages? It makes no sense for anyone least of all one looking for information. If you disagree then we obviously grew up with different values. I learned not to shout at the top of my lungs when conversing at home, lest the neighbors be disturbed. You must think otherwise. Best regards, Kelvin Kean --------------95F933F27CC43FAEEF3DE6CB--

Our Parsons family history lists one of my ggggrandfathers, George Parsons, as having married a Ruth Green sometime prior to 1765 when their first child was born. We have never been able to locate ANYTHING on a Ruth Green. Does ANYONE have a Ruth Green born sometime between 1735-1750? We are beginning to wonder if her name was Green afterall, but would like to exhaust all our Green resources before trying to establish a new name for her. I have been reading this list for a couple of months, but have seen no Ruth Green. Can anyone find a Ruth in the Green family histories? Thank you, Krys

To all fellow searchers: I fully agree with Kelvin. These type messages are personal and should be communicated only between the two people, not the LIST. Kelvin Kean wrote: > > I happen to agree with Bill and I subscribe to many lists. I can't fathom > the value of anyone sending an original message or a copy to a list when > the message is something like the following examples that I picked out of > this mornings download from various lists: > > > I about fell off my chair laughing when I read your e-mail!!! :-) Yea, > >I guess they made them tough back then! > > Obviously, the death date for Christian is incorrect. The information > >had been handed down through the family and I've not been able to verify > >it. Hence, trying to locate someone who might know about them. > > Thank you for the information on the marriage date and the names of > >the daughters. I really appreciate it > > or > > >Thanks for the further clarification, Cadia. > > or > > >Great to see a Nairnshire page. I come from there and can help with local > >knowledge. Do you come from Nairn Joseph? Min Walker nee Davidson. > > or > > >Do you have any idea what years you are looking for your James in? > > or > > >Are you looking for Almwick, possibly in Anglesey, north Wales? > > None of them are the least bit informative or enlightening for anyone but > the sender and intended recipient. They only clutter the list and the > archives to the detriment of all. Each should have been sent privately. > Yet messages like this persistently comprise a third or more of the > messages I receive each day taking up space and time that I can use to > better purpose elsewhere. And I'm completely mystified why anyone would > want the world to read such messages, since publicly posting them serves > no useful purpose whatsoever. > > Regards, > > Kelvin Kean > Elverson, Pennsylvania > > P.S. I should add that the subject fields for each of the above added no > useful information either.

LaurieJoy: I failed to get your E-mail address. I got so excited I forgot to give you info on DANIEL, please call back. Woody

Kevin: A lot of times a newcomer submits a query and does not know to put in dates or places. If you ask for this information you are only being polite. I see all of these complaints of yours as examples of just that.....people being friendly and exhibiting common courtesy.Nothing more. Cheers, Boice Kelvin Kean wrote: > I happen to agree with Bill and I subscribe to many lists. I can't fathom > the value of anyone sending an original message or a copy to a list when > the message is something like the following examples that I picked out of > this mornings download from various lists: > > > I about fell off my chair laughing when I read your e-mail!!! :-) Yea, > >I guess they made them tough back then! > > Obviously, the death date for Christian is incorrect. The information > >had been handed down through the family and I've not been able to verify > >it. Hence, trying to locate someone who might know about them. > > Thank you for the information on the marriage date and the names of > >the daughters. I really appreciate it > > or > > >Thanks for the further clarification, Cadia. > > or > > >Great to see a Nairnshire page. I come from there and can help with local > >knowledge. Do you come from Nairn Joseph? Min Walker nee Davidson. > > or > > >Do you have any idea what years you are looking for your James in? > > or > > >Are you looking for Almwick, possibly in Anglesey, north Wales? > > None of them are the least bit informative or enlightening for anyone but > the sender and intended recipient. They only clutter the list and the > archives to the detriment of all. Each should have been sent privately. > Yet messages like this persistently comprise a third or more of the > messages I receive each day taking up space and time that I can use to > better purpose elsewhere. And I'm completely mystified why anyone would > want the world to read such messages, since publicly posting them serves > no useful purpose whatsoever. > > Regards, > > Kelvin Kean > Elverson, Pennsylvania > > P.S. I should add that the subject fields for each of the above added no > useful information either.

Genealogy isn't for people with short fuses! In our current society of " instant " solutions to every situation, and the " me first "attitude, I would suggest that those who have no tolerance for patience, and perserverence, should find another hobby. I've been "digging" for almost 30 years, and although it gets frustrating at times, it's so rewarding when you finally make a connection ! I've been on this list for more than a year, and have yet to find my line, but I enjoy, and appreciate, the exchange of information , and would not change a thing. ---------- > > With complete respect for your opinion I would say "careful Bill, you might > be speaking only for yourself" :) > > I wouldn't change a single way that this list and people communicate and > function! > > Hope everyone has a nice Holiday Weekend > > With warmest regards from San Diego, > > "Ed" MI > Jefferson Co., IL > San Diego, CA > > Ed & Betty Greene 3538 Elsinore Place San Diego, CA > 92117-4509 > Phone & Fax 619-274-3720 edgreene@san.rr.com > =========================================================================== > Paternal Surnames: Anderson (SC>IL), Burdette (MD), Getty (IRE), Green > (MD>IL), Lively (SC>IL), Parker (SC), Porter (SC), Teter (VA>IL), > Maternal Surnames: Beer (PA>OH), Crow (PA>OH), Deffenbaugh (PA>OH), Derr > (PA), Maley (PA), Shank (PA>OH>MI>MN), > =========================================================================== > FTM Homepage: > http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/g/r/e/D-E-Greene/index.html > Member & FTM group leader:Computer Gen Soc.of San Diego: www.cgssd.org > ===================================================================== > > -----Original Message----- > From: William T. Green <greenwt@hevanet.com> > To: GREEN-L@rootsweb.com <GREEN-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Friday, September 04, 1998 8:09 PM > Subject: [GREEN-L] Common Courtesy > > > >Since most of us subscribers want to see pertinent information related to > >our forebears on this service, why don't those of you who want to answer > >someone's specific question go to their specific email address and stop > >"spamming" the rest of us with your chat-room messages? > > > >Thanks, > > > >Bill > > > > > > ______________________________

Ok! A number of you have been on the list talking about MESHACK GREEN. I just found out that this is my line. Can anyone give me anything on this line. MESHACK GREEN B. 1720 D. 1790 married to MARY ANN Child of Meshack & Mary Ann: JOHN GREEN SR. B. 1784 married CHARLOTTE (Gordon County GA) Children of John & Charlotte: JOHN GREEN JR. DANIEL GREEN JERMIAH GREEN JOHN GREEN JR. B. 1800 D. 1843 married REBECCA (Gordon-Bartow-Cass County GA) Thanks Woody King

I have been with this list a little while now and have found it the best of the 8 lists I am on. If you do not want to see all the replies and the chats unsubscribe. I appreciate not only the info from this list but the friendship and camaraderie. Put a little fun in your lives its to short to sweat the small stuff. I know I'm living on borrowed time. Dwight & Kathie Bass for EVERGREENE sammie4@advicom.net http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/b/a/s/Dwight-L-Bass Searching for BASS, ASBELL, MILLER, GREENE, PROVIN, COGGESHALL, BURNSED, STECKER, BEELER, BRASSFIELD Cantrell

Corp Isaac Greene served in the Revolution from the town of Coventry, R. I. (source: DAR Patriot Index p. 283). His son Pvt James Greene also served. Isaac Greene, b. R.I. 11 June 1724, m. Mary Weaver 20 June 1754, d. R.I. 1807 (source: DAR Patriot Index, p 283 and Greene Family Genealogy by Mance 1904, pp 78 - 81). Corp Isaac Greene was the father of James. James Greene, b. Coventry R. I., 17 Feb 1764, m. 6 Jun 1790 to Eunice Case of R. I., d. in R.I. 20 Aug 1839. (Sources: VR West Greenwich and Coventry, R.I., DAR Patriot Index p 283; Coventry Muster Rool for 1782. Pvt. James Greene was the father of Horace Greene. Horace Greene, b. Coventry R.I. 21 May 1809, died Coventry R.I. 9 June 1857, married about 1832 to Alice ?? born about 1804. (Source: 1840 census. Death record from town clerk.) Horace Green was the father of Oscar Byron Greene. Oscar Byron Greene, b. in R.I. abt 1843, moved to New London, Connecticut, (first) marriage to Mary Robinson, born in Maine. (Source: 1850 and 1860 Census records, showing parentage). Oscar Byron had a son, also Oscar (I knew his widow slightly) and a daughter, Alice Rose Greene (my grandmother). Alice Rose Greene, b. Providence R.I., 6 Sept 1869, died in Los Angeles, California, 7 Aug 1922 (Sources Vrecs., death certificate). She married Earnest (?) Watrous, and then as a widow, married John Foster Tucker. Their daughter, Alice Joan Tucker Bramlette was my mother. This message is partly in response to the lady who asked for NAMES, NAMES, etc. The data above comes from my (successful) application to join the Sons of the Revolution. It was compiled by the SR's genealogist, Richard Coe, in 1970. A few questions for you, please: Are these Greene's in your family tree also? Do you know whether the above data is already available on the Internet? I am a new user and looked without success for this data to see if I could find my way around the Greene data. Any suggestions?

To the folks on this list... I also was left off 'The Poll'. I have found amazing information and ideas of new places to search from listings that some may had considered 'spam'. Not Everyone has the historical knowledge of the periods of research to realize changes in All areas of state divisions or of the wars and battles that took place and be able to shift their research to those locations accordingly. I'm also wading through alot of listS and their postings for new clues, suggestions, and resources for my research....I never know when a date, a name, or a county/state line change may lead me to a piece of my puzzle or another researcher with that same family. Some of the lovely names I'm hunting include; GREEN,Richard (La/?Md pre1800); JOHNSON, John (Ala 1800/Miss 1840);KELLEY (SC pre-1800/Ill after 1840); BROWN, Alexander and Sylvenus (Tx.1835); JONES,Nancy and Mary (Va pre1800); SMITH, Sarah (Ill. 1860?) I'm beginning to understand why so many 'Unsubscribe' to these lists, now... Carolyn R. Green

I subscribe to about 2 dozen lists. My incoming email averages about 500 per day. Yes, genealogy is my job and I realize that the majority of you have other full-time jobs and do genealogy as a pastime, so you are often frustrated by reading a number of emails that don't help you in any way. But let me tell you from experiences -- this is like panning for gold. Not only can you learn something about your own ancestors by reading just one message among hundreds, but you can learn the history of an area, customs which may affect what your ancestors did, make contacts with others (not necessarily "cousins" but folks who are willing to get a record for you at the archives, etc.) and the list goes on and on. So, no one says you have to read *all* your mail each day. If you get too many to read in one sitting, do it the next day. But don't just delete them sight unseen because the subject header is too vague or a location isn't included, etc. And don't discourage posting to the list. You never know where you might find that nugget of gold. Off my soapbox now. Vickie Elam White CompuServe Genealogy Forum Staff New Member Specialist 102657.1616@compuserve.com (preferred) VEWhite@aol.com (alternate)

I happen to agree with Bill and I subscribe to many lists. I can't fathom the value of anyone sending an original message or a copy to a list when the message is something like the following examples that I picked out of this mornings download from various lists: > I about fell off my chair laughing when I read your e-mail!!! :-) Yea, >I guess they made them tough back then! > Obviously, the death date for Christian is incorrect. The information >had been handed down through the family and I've not been able to verify >it. Hence, trying to locate someone who might know about them. > Thank you for the information on the marriage date and the names of >the daughters. I really appreciate it or >Thanks for the further clarification, Cadia. or >Great to see a Nairnshire page. I come from there and can help with local >knowledge. Do you come from Nairn Joseph? Min Walker nee Davidson. or >Do you have any idea what years you are looking for your James in? or >Are you looking for Almwick, possibly in Anglesey, north Wales? None of them are the least bit informative or enlightening for anyone but the sender and intended recipient. They only clutter the list and the archives to the detriment of all. Each should have been sent privately. Yet messages like this persistently comprise a third or more of the messages I receive each day taking up space and time that I can use to better purpose elsewhere. And I'm completely mystified why anyone would want the world to read such messages, since publicly posting them serves no useful purpose whatsoever. Regards, Kelvin Kean Elverson, Pennsylvania P.S. I should add that the subject fields for each of the above added no useful information either.

Hello All, As a new subscriber and serious researcher I am interested in every message. I hope this "List" keeps up the good work on a friendly basis. Other lists I participate in have lots of unrelated messages . . . jokes, inspirational, etc., etc. As Lois says . . . there is always the delete key. In a message dated 98-09-05 11:29:03 EDT, Lois writes, and I say AMEN! << Hi List, Life is all about making choices and I have included a few. 1. Be determined to make that great connection. 2. Share your infomation. 3. Glean information as it is provided by others. 4. Learn from others. 5. Relate to fellow researchers with their trials & tribulations. 6. Use delete key as needed. 7. Unsubscribe as a last resort. I prefer to use the first five choices and in doing so have make a wonderful find on this List. I believe genealogy requires patience, patience, patience. >>

Hi List, Life is all about making choices and I have included a few. 1. Be determined to make that great connection. 2. Share your infomation. 3. Glean information as it is provided by others. 4. Learn from others. 5. Relate to fellow researchers with their trials & tribulations. 6. Use delete key as needed. 7. Unsubscribe as a last resort. I prefer to use the first five choices and in doing so have make a wonderful find on this List. I believe genealogy requires patience, patience, patience. Be patient Bill, it could happen to you, also. Lois

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