Here is one state, Sue. REGISTER OF ST. JOHN'S CHURCH, Providence, RI Marriages performed by Rev. Nathan Bourne Crocker 1811 July 28 John Ballard, Jun'r & Hannah Greene Oct 20 James B. Dorrance & Anna Greene Providence County, RI Marriage Records File contributed for use in USGenWeb Archives by Brenda Bova <BBova2332@aol.com> (© 1997 Brenda Bova) -- Gary O. & Julianne L. Green "Crazy" is a relative term in MY family. mailto:ggreen@wilmington.net Home Page: http://localsonly.wilmington.net/ggreen/ggreen1.html Genealogy: http://localsonly.wilmington.net/ggreen/genelogy.html AFJROTC: http://localsonly.wilmington.net/ggreen/index.html Hope UMC: http://churches.wilmington.org/hopeumc/

May I suggest you search for Ruth Greene. I found about five potentials in my database with the spelling of Greene. Where did George Parsons live? Is he from Rhode Island? If so, I recommend you search the database of John Greene of Quidenessett and see if you can find Ruth as a daughter in that group. I did not find a George Parsons in my database of Green(e)s however, that does not preclude your Ruth from being one of the massive numbers of Ruth Greenes. -- Gary O. & Julianne L. Green "Crazy" is a relative term in MY family. mailto:ggreen@wilmington.net Home Page: http://localsonly.wilmington.net/ggreen/ggreen1.html Genealogy: http://localsonly.wilmington.net/ggreen/genelogy.html AFJROTC: http://localsonly.wilmington.net/ggreen/index.html Hope UMC: http://churches.wilmington.org/hopeumc/

Hello to all, I decided to follow the spirit of Allan's and Tim's suggestions and place this post under a separate Subject Heading so not to complicate the "Common Courtesy" thread, which is, probably, coming to an end by now. (Hopefully, you say... lol). One thing I would like to see, if I haven't already and have just been confused when I *did* see it... on the SHEELY list I'm on, there are, basically, three (3) lines from which all SHEELYs (in the US) descend... I know there are "boo-coos" of GREENs out there, but, is it possible, to trace them all to a relative few "original" GREENs?? For example, I know there is John of Quidnesset, John the Surgeon (or are these two the same "John"?), the Duff Greens, Gen'l Nathaniel Green(e) and Thomas the Seagull (probably others that I can't glean from the *many* informative posts out there)... Perhaps Tom or Neal or Ron (who are probably all sorry now that they "revealed" themselves) or someone else who has had the time and the inclination to put all of these Ancestors in one central location could simplify the massive number of GREEN Ancestors and simply list (with Name, Date, Place or Migration Trail) the Earliest GREENs in their database. Am I asking an impossible task? (Probably). Oh well, we can always dream, can't we? Thanks, Melinda

In a message dated 98-09-06 07:44:20 EDT, you write: << that listmembers take just a brief moment to reread what they have written, and ask themselves one basic question. "I know this is important to _______, but is it important to everybody on the Green-L list?" "Will anyone else even know what I am talking about?" If the answer is to these is "yes", then by all means, send it to us all. >> Allan, I agree with the basic premis (sp?... you know, the idea) of your message (you stated your point(s) very well, IMHO), but I would go a little further to refine your first question that we should ask ourselves.... not whether the information in the post is important to EVERYBODY but whether the query or message contributes any INFORMATION that COULD be important to ANYBODY". (the caps are for emphasis, not shouting, of the operative words). Whether the post is a "simple request", (per Tim), or a continuation of a thread regarding research methods or a particular Ancestor, if SOMEONE could benefit, I see no reason why we shouldn't post to the entire list. Messages like, "Hi, how are you?" or "Did you get my email?" quite *obviously* should be left off. I would also agree with you about DATES (x 3) and would also add my .02... how about PLACES, PLACES, PLACES... ? I would say that the *vast* majority of the GREEN list members are VERY good at posting Subject Headings that correspond to their query. I really do think that we are confusing this List with others. I have lost count as to the number of lists to which I subscribe but would definitely put the GREEN list at the TOP of the heap when it comes to abiding by the RootsWeb "suggestions" for postings. WTG, gang! Melinda OH, NE GREENs

At 01:12 06/09/98 EDT, ALLAGREEN@aol.com wrote: >Perhaps it would be possible to compromise. I think that what Bill, Kelvin >and others like me are asking is that listmembers take just a brief moment to >reread what they have written, and ask themselves one basic question. "I know >this is important to _______, but is it important to everybody on the Green-L >list?" "Will anyone else even know what I am talking about?" If the answer >is to these is "yes", then by all means, send it to us all. I was going to keep well away from this discussion, but having seen Allan's proposed "compromise" felt I had to write. As far as I can see, what he is proposing means that in his opinion, and that of a very few others, the only thing which should ever be posted to the list is a simple request for information. After all, any reply to the query cannot possibly be of interest to everybody on the list. If that were the case we would never even have heard of Allan, Kelvin, Bill et al. On the other hand we also wouldn't have discovered what a mine of information people such as Tom can be. >From a personal level, I know thatI will never get any useful information towards my family history from this list. My biggest problem is that EVERY ancestor I have so far been able to trace has been within one single county of England. Now, I am not a new researcher. I have been doing this for over 30 years, and some of my lines stretch back to the early 1500s. Accordingly, subscribing to a list which deals exclusively with the USA (whether by original intent or not doesn't matter) will not help my research. However, I have learned an awful lot simply by being subscribed. I am subscribed to other lists. The most useful for my genealogy is the county list where my ancestors resided. It positively requests that all replies get copied to the list unless they are clearly personal messages and nothing else. In this way I have been able to help other people, and they in turn have helped me, although by Kelvin's criteria we should never have been in correspondence in the first place. Now, can we get bck to the exchange of information which is what the list is about? Tim Green

In a message dated 98-09-05 11:29:03 EDT, you << kkean@ix.netcom.com >> write: >>something like the following examples that I picked out of >>this mornings download from various lists:<< No doubt, there is a lot of chit-chat on some lists... however, I don't recall reading any of the examples you provided on the GREEN list and I wish you wouldn't put "Us" in the same category with "Them". Even though, in the year and a half I have been a subscriber, I have not found a connection to any of the GREENs discussed, I have *totally* enjoyed the history, knowledge, and *kindness* that many of the other subscribers have brought to this forum. (Please, please, please, don't stop posting your information). I am hoping someday that I am related to all of those *smart* GREENs out there. BTW, looking for GREENs in: Ohio (Ross and Scioto Counties) 1840's - 1860's, Nebraska (Douglas Co.) 1890's - 1920's Names: William Jacob, Alexander Franklin, James Willard, Anna Elizabeth, Edward Wild, Mary Florence, Charles Henry, Amanda Catherine, George Wesley, Frederick Arthur, Albert Hugh Affiliated Surnames: CLINE, JOHNSON, TAYLOR, LEWIS, THOMAS, CHRISTIAN, TUCKER Keep GREEN-ing up the List, Melinda K. Green

Hi all, Ambits all of the differing of opinions, I am searching for the parents of Timothy Wilson GREEN. He was born about 1815 in TN., died about 1861 in Leon county, TX. He married Nancy BRENTFIELD. Timothy was a Methodist Minister in Freestone county TX. in the 1850's - helped establish the Mt. Zion Methodist Church. He was listed as a physician in the 1860 Federal Census in Leon county. He preempted land in Freestone county and also owned land in leon county. They had 14 children including my gg grandfather Andrew GREEN. Andrew Ervin GREEN was born 17 Feb. 1856, prob. Freestone county, TX., died 11 Feb. 1932., Colorado City, Mitchell county, TX.. He married Sarah Hannah WYATT, on 17 Feb. 1876, Hillsboro, Hill county, TX. They also had 14 children. Incidentally, and I hope this is not to chatty - but - Andrew and Sarah had a double wedding with Sarah's sister Cynthia WYATT who married Samuel BLACK. Cynthia died in child birth, and Sarah & Andrew raised the child (Hody - Cash). As an adult Hody committed suicide. According to my grandmother - who was also raised by Sarah and Andrew, there were a lot GREENS' who married BLACKS' and ROSES'. I do have a list of all the children (both generations) listed above. Does anyone have any knowldege of Timothy Wilson GREEN? Thanks Glad wbrand@gj.net High Mountain Bear wrote: > This has turned into an all out war! Let's all shake hands > and get back to our genealogy and Chit-Chat!! > > Del Black > who's mother was > Christina Belle Green > 1910-1964 > > -----Original Message----- > From: CootyDo@aol.com <CootyDo@aol.com> > To: GREEN-L@rootsweb.com <GREEN-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Saturday, September 05, 1998 9:56 PM > Subject: [GREEN-L] Re: Common Courtesy > > >In a message dated 98-09-05 11:29:03 EDT, you << kkean@ix.netcom.com >> > write: > > > >>>something like the following examples that I picked out of > >>>this mornings download from various lists:<< > > > >No doubt, there is a lot of chit-chat on some lists... however, I don't > recall > >reading any of the examples you provided on the GREEN list and I wish you > >wouldn't put "Us" in the same category with "Them". Even though, in the > year > >and a half I have been a subscriber, I have not found a connection to any > of > >the GREENs discussed, I have *totally* enjoyed the history, knowledge, and > >*kindness* that many of the other subscribers have brought to this forum. > >(Please, please, please, don't stop posting your information). I am hoping > >someday that I am related to all of those *smart* GREENs out there. > > > >BTW, looking for GREENs in: > > > >Ohio (Ross and Scioto Counties) 1840's - 1860's, > >Nebraska (Douglas Co.) 1890's - 1920's > > > >Names: > >William Jacob, Alexander Franklin, James Willard, Anna Elizabeth, Edward > Wild, > >Mary Florence, Charles Henry, Amanda Catherine, George Wesley, Frederick > >Arthur, Albert Hugh > > > >Affiliated Surnames: > >CLINE, JOHNSON, TAYLOR, LEWIS, THOMAS, CHRISTIAN, TUCKER > > > >Keep GREEN-ing up the List, > >Melinda K. Green > >

This has turned into an all out war! Let's all shake hands and get back to our genealogy and Chit-Chat!! Del Black who's mother was Christina Belle Green 1910-1964 -----Original Message----- From: CootyDo@aol.com <CootyDo@aol.com> To: GREEN-L@rootsweb.com <GREEN-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, September 05, 1998 9:56 PM Subject: [GREEN-L] Re: Common Courtesy >In a message dated 98-09-05 11:29:03 EDT, you << kkean@ix.netcom.com >> write: > >>>something like the following examples that I picked out of >>>this mornings download from various lists:<< > >No doubt, there is a lot of chit-chat on some lists... however, I don't recall >reading any of the examples you provided on the GREEN list and I wish you >wouldn't put "Us" in the same category with "Them". Even though, in the year >and a half I have been a subscriber, I have not found a connection to any of >the GREENs discussed, I have *totally* enjoyed the history, knowledge, and >*kindness* that many of the other subscribers have brought to this forum. >(Please, please, please, don't stop posting your information). I am hoping >someday that I am related to all of those *smart* GREENs out there. > >BTW, looking for GREENs in: > >Ohio (Ross and Scioto Counties) 1840's - 1860's, >Nebraska (Douglas Co.) 1890's - 1920's > >Names: >William Jacob, Alexander Franklin, James Willard, Anna Elizabeth, Edward Wild, >Mary Florence, Charles Henry, Amanda Catherine, George Wesley, Frederick >Arthur, Albert Hugh > >Affiliated Surnames: >CLINE, JOHNSON, TAYLOR, LEWIS, THOMAS, CHRISTIAN, TUCKER > >Keep GREEN-ing up the List, >Melinda K. Green >

I am a descendant of Frances Green who m. Ephraim Parham. Frances Green was born ca. 1665, maybe in Virginia. She was the dau of Lewis Green and g. dau of Peter Green, as I understand it from IGI. However, I'm trying to track down documentation from Frances Green back. I would appreciate any help. Bobby

In a message dated 9/5/98 3:11:12 PM Central Daylight Time, GREEN-D- request@rootsweb.com writes: << A number of you have been on the list talking about MESHACK GREEN. I just found out that this is my line. >> Now how would Woody have found this out if we hadn't been "spamming" about Meshack all this time... Congrats! Woody..... Now, anyone got GREENs in Ohio or Nebraska? Just checking...again.<G> Melinda

Looking for a link to the following: 1850 Indiana census - Owen County, Washington Twp, Pg 96 line 182 Joseph Green 33 male Cooper born: Ky (COOPER or CUPER - maker of barrels ) Jane W. 33 female born: NC Margaret E 10 female Joseph R 7 male Isaac E 3 male Nancy J 3/12 female All children born in Indiana Also found on the internet: Owen County, Indiana: Marriages before 1850 Green, Joseph; Gregory, Jane W.; Jun 12, 1838; Thos Johnson, M.G. Would love to hear from anyone that links to the above. Thanks for looking! Lynda

In a message dated 9/5/98 12:37:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, burnsba@earthlink.net writes: << Kevin: A lot of times a newcomer submits a query and does not know to put in dates or places. If you ask for this information you are only being polite. I see all of these complaints of yours as examples of just that.....people being friendly and exhibiting common courtesy.Nothing more. Cheers, Boice >> Dear Boice and Green-L listmembers: I'm afraid I have to disagree seriously. I have read most of the messages that support the "posting everything to the list" viewpoint, and think that I honestly summarize them as follows: They are saying that the great advantage in doing so is that someone will occasionally run across data or ideas on how to find data in a message that is not intended for them, but as a response to the query of another person. I don't happen to agree with that viewpoint, but that doesn't matter here, as long as other do it remains valid. Kelvin's point was that those messages that he cited did absolutely nothing to further the knowledge of persons or research technique. They contained no basic factual data that could possibly be identified by anyone other than the person to whom they were written. I have just reread them, and find no insights into research technique or identification of data sources either. Yet, in each case, the sender sent them to the list as a whole. Put yourself in the position of someone who looks at the archives of the messages from this list. Can you find one thing of value in any of his examples that will aid any researcher in pursuing their search for data about their ancestors? I can't. Yet those of us who express concern about this matter believe that these kind of non-informative messages make up a very significant part of what comes through from the various lists to which we subscribe. By way of personal example, tonight I had 237 messages to read when I signed on to get my e-mail - and that's since 5:00 AM. Perhaps it would be possible to compromise. I think that what Bill, Kelvin and others like me are asking is that listmembers take just a brief moment to reread what they have written, and ask themselves one basic question. "I know this is important to _______, but is it important to everybody on the Green-L list?" "Will anyone else even know what I am talking about?" If the answer is to these is "yes", then by all means, send it to us all. Then, if and when it is consciously decided that everyone does need to see my answer (and that's great - it's what we are all here for), then ask just ONE more question. "Does the subject heading that appears at the top of the message accurately reflect the content, now that I have responded or continued a pre-existing thread?" If so, fine. If not, PLEASE change the subject heading to reflect the content of the current message. I guess I've used up more than two cents worth, but I think this matter is important. I assume we do not want to drive anybody from the list, but that has to include the old, experienced researchers as well as the newer ones. Allan E. Green

In a message dated 98-09-05 11:29:03 EDT, you << kkean@ix.netcom.com >> write: >>something like the following examples that I picked out of >>this mornings download from various lists:<< No doubt, there is a lot of chit-chat on some lists... however, I don't recall reading any of the examples you provided on the GREEN list and I wish you wouldn't put "Us" in the same category with "Them". Even though, in the year and a half I have been a subscriber, I have not found a connection to any of the GREENs discussed, I have *totally* enjoyed the history, knowledge, and *kindness* that many of the other subscribers have brought to this forum. (Please, please, please, don't stop posting your information). I am hoping someday that I am related to all of those *smart* GREENs out there. BTW, looking for GREENs in: Ohio (Ross and Scioto Counties) 1840's - 1860's, Nebraska (Douglas Co.) 1890's - 1920's Names: William Jacob, Alexander Franklin, James Willard, Anna Elizabeth, Edward Wild, Mary Florence, Charles Henry, Amanda Catherine, George Wesley, Frederick Arthur, Albert Hugh Affiliated Surnames: CLINE, JOHNSON, TAYLOR, LEWIS, THOMAS, CHRISTIAN, TUCKER Keep GREEN-ing up the List, Melinda K. Green

Kelvin: You could take a few pointers in "efficient and useful communication" yourself. I've seen few people who knew so little about "communicating".I'll relay your usual pleasantness to the List :-) :-) :-) Peace and goodwill!! Boice Kelvin Kean wrote: > Everything about efficient and useful communication, if that were of > interest to you. > > Kelvin Kean

In a message dated 9/5/98 7:57:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Sunnie629@aol.com writes: << Most of us are on several mailing lists and prefer not to be bombarded with useless e-mails. I just want to find my ancestors, their descendants and would like to see just NAMES,NAMES, NAMES and where they came from and where they went. Diane >> Diane - I just signed on, and found 237 e-mail messages to go through. I share your concern and hopes, but would like to see DATES, DATES, DATES added to your NAMES(cubed). Allan

Hi Folks! The following came up on another list Im on, so thought I should post it with you as it seems to be a potentially good source of info. I only just got this info today, and have only just started to go through all the links, so if any of you find any Greene/Green info from this, it would be real nice if you post to the list and share it as it seems quite extensive - you know, one hand help the other type thing. > http://www.doitnow.com/~moravia/marry.html#New Sue Pawley trottr@icanect.net

May I politely and quietly suggest that those impatient with "spam" subscribe to the digest version -- I only get between one and three pieces of mail from this list a day because I chose that option. :-) Emily

Hi. I'm one of the crazy people researching the Meshack GREEN mess. Actually, I'm a tangental victim who is primarily interested in the Shadrack GREEN mess, but I figure sooner or later there has to be a connection between the Shadracks, the Meshacks and the Abednegos [names of Biblical Brothers] ! It's just too weird for them all to be living so close together otherwise. I have a number of different peoples' information but there is no clear consensus on how it all inter-relates. I am particularly interested in the children of your John GREEN including a Jeremiah -- there is definately an association between Meshack GREENs and Jeremiah GREENs, including one document which has a Jeremiah GREEN as a father of a Meshack GREEN. Given what we know about naming traditions it may well be that the Jeremiah father of Meshack was also a son of another Meshack. The situation remains messy. I question your assignment of a father supposedly b. 1720 to a son b.1784 -- I have seen such lines prove out where a man may have a second or third wife that much younger than himself, but this is a very infrequent occurance. Occam's Razor votes against. I do have the line you refer to from one source, "This is the work of Keith Henderson of Alabama...if you have any questions please contact Susan S. Reaney @aol.com for information on getting in contact with Keith.... 1 Meshack Green Abt. 1720 - 1799 d: 1799 in Pendleton District, South Carolina . 2 Mary Ann Green 1767 - Aft. 1850 d: Aft. 1850 in Gwinnett Co., Georgia ..... +Isaac Horton 1763 - 1854 Father: Mother: d: 1854 in Milledgeville, Gwinett Co., Georgia (ellipsis) . 2 John Green 1784 - ..... +Charlotte ??? 1782 - Aft. 1860 Father: Mother: d: Aft. 1860 in Gordan Co., Georgia ..... 3 Daniel Green Abt. 1799 - ..... 3 John Green 1800 - Aft. 1843 d: Aft. 1843 in Cass [now Bartow] Co., Georgia ......... +Rebecca ??? 1800 - Aft. 1870 Father: Mother: d: Aft. 1870 in Gordan Co., Georgia ..... 3 Jeremiah Green 1802 - 1884 d: January 18, 1884 in Gordon Co., Georgia ......... +Elizabeth (Eliza) ??? Abt. 1800 - 1883 Father: Mother: d: November 30, 1883 in Gordon Co., Georgia .. 2 Francy Green 1790 - " This lineage gives a bracket of approximately twenty-three years for children for Meshack, which is acceptable for the reproductive period of one wife given that she began at an age between sixteen and twenty. She would then have been born around 1747 to 1751 -- of course if this Meshack had more than one wife during his reproductive period all bets are off. I wonder where the 1720 date for his birth came from, anyway. Where did you get it? Emily >From: W91846@aol.com >To: GREEN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [GREEN-L] MESHACK GREEN > >Ok! A number of you have been on the list talking about MESHACK GREEN. I just >found out that this is my line. Can anyone give me anything on this line. >MESHACK GREEN B. 1720 D. 1790 married to MARY ANN >Child of Meshack & Mary Ann: >JOHN GREEN SR. B. 1784 married CHARLOTTE (Gordon County GA) >Children of John & Charlotte: >JOHN GREEN JR. >DANIEL GREEN >JERMIAH GREEN > >JOHN GREEN JR. B. 1800 D. 1843 married REBECCA (Gordon-Bartow-Cass County GA) > >Thanks >Woody King

Can anyone connect with this family? Mary Ann GREEN b. abt 1854 TN. Or ? d. July 1894 , Hardeman CO TN. m. 11 Dec. 1870 to E. William Carroll TAYLOR in Hardeman CO TN. I have not found Mary in the 1870 Census with her parents. 1880 Census says her parents were born in NC. Her mother is rumored to be of Native American, Cherokee descent, but this has not been verified. One possibility is the descendents of William Maston GREEN of NC>AL> Hardeman CO TN. William Mastion married to Mary Ann ( maiden name unknown) could possibly be grandparents of my Mary ANN. Can anyone shed any light on this William Maston GREEN ? TIA Susie Jourdan-Grant Burbank IL. Listowner TNHARDEM-L :Research in Hardeman CO. TN. CROUSE*GREEN*JONES*TAYLOR NC>TN CONDER*HICKS*GREEN*MCCORD*MCCEVY/MCKELVY*WILLIAMS*WRIGHT*RUDDELL in TN CLARK*GRAY*JORDAN/JOURDAN*WRIGHT in AL,GA,MS Home Page: Branches and Twigs http://home.earthlink.net/~krista3

I have two GREEN families one maternal and one paternal in two different TN counties. Does anyone see a connection too these folks? Maternal Line in Benton and Carroll Counties in TN. 1 Michael J. "Jack" Green b. TN 1827 - d. not known , Parents unknown, but born in NC. . +Nancy Francis McCevy/McKELVY 1832 - Children .... 2 George W. Green 1855 - .... 2 Thomas J. Green 1861 - .... 2 Mariah Grant Green 1865 - 1950 + George W. WILLIAMS 1865-1890 ........ +Andrew Palmer 1859 - 1913 .... .... 2 Sophia S. Green 1866 - .... 2 Isabella H. Green 1873 - TIA Susie Jourdan-Grant Burbank IL. Listowner TNHARDEM-L :Research in Hardeman CO. TN. CROUSE*GREEN*JONES*TAYLOR NC>TN CONDER*HICKS*GREEN*MCCORD*MCCEVY/MCKELVY*WILLIAMS*WRIGHT*RUDDELL in TN CLARK*GRAY*JORDAN/JOURDAN*WRIGHT in AL,GA,MS Home Page: Branches and Twigs http://home.earthlink.net/~krista3