Hi Dan, Thanks for posting the info on the Potts Creek area. You seem very knowledgable of the area and I have interest in that part of the country. You are probably aware that the Jersey Settlement was established near the ancient Indian crossing of the Yadkin River, and I have attempted to find the parents of my William Green born 1762 in Prince Edward County, Virginia, and died in Haywood County, North Carolina March 2, 1837. If you know of any connection to any Green family in Jersey Settlement I would be most interested in what you may have. The other family I have an interest is the Lewis Green family, and the story is that Lewis Green went on an extended bear hunt with Daniel Boone and was all but killed by the bear, but managed to survive and the creek where this happned was named Lewis Creek in his honor. I am attempting to determine if this Lewis Green was related to Lucy Blackwell Green, born February 27, 1776, who married Senator George Boone. Lucy Blackwell Green was the daughter of Capt. William Green, born about 1754, who was the son of Robert Green who married Patty Ball, a relative of President George Washington. Can you provide any help with this Lewis Green? Thanks, Tom Green

anyone have any information on the spouse or the children on the man.? or death date and where burried . William S GREEN B: 3 Feb,1813-Rutherford NC father Amos GREEN-Elizabeth Searcy any Idea what the S stands for.? Thanks DITAW

Hi Dianna, Here's the naming tradition that I posted previously: Naming Traditions 1st son = father's father 2nd son = mother's father 3rd son = father 4th son = father's 2nd oldest brother or mother's oldest brother 1st daughter = mother's mother 2nd daughter = father's mother 3rd daughter = mother 4th daughter = mother's oldest sister 5th daughter = mother's 2nd oldest sister or father's oldest sister Naming Traditions courtesy of Sharan Ellingsworth Lesmeister Ronnie Greene RGreene431@aol.com

Hi Danny, Saw your post Re Shadrach & John Moccasin GREEN. Here's what my files show for a partial listing of the ist generation of this family. I do not show anything on a Martha JONES. Feel free to post corrections for any errors. Hope this helps. Descendants of Richard GREENE Generation No. 1 1. RICHARD3 GREENE (JEREMIAH2, WILLIAM1) was born 1742 in Hunterdon Co., NJ, and died February 27, 1794 in Blowing Rock, NC. He married ELEANOR SULLIVAN Abt. 1763, daughter of EDWARD E. SULLIVAN. Notes for RICHARD GREENE: Richard and Eleanor were the first of the Greene name to be received into the Jersey Church. In 1789, they were dismissed by letter and, they next, year along with six others, they organized Three Forks Church not far from Boone. Richard and Eleanor settled near the present location of Green Park Inn in Blowing Rock. NC. More About RICHARD GREENE: Fact 1: Lived near Green Park Inn, Blowing Rock. NC Children of RICHARD GREENE and ELEANOR SULLIVAN are: i. ELEANOR4 GREENE, b. Abt. 1776; d. Abt. 1825; m. SAMUEL BAKER. 2. ii. SHADRACH GREENE, b. Abt. 1763, NC; d. Aft. 1846, Cleveland Co , NC. 3. iii. JOHN MOCCASIN GREENE, b. Abt. 1772; d. 1852, Madison Co., NC. 4. iv. JEREMIAH GREENE , JR., b. 1774, Rowan Co., NC; d. Abt. 1840, Hancock Co., TN. 5. v. AMOS GREENE, b. 1778, Rowan Co NC; d. January 06, 1857, Ballground, Cherokee, GA. 6. vi. RICHARD GREENE , JR., b. 1781; d. Abt. 1830. 7. vii. BENJAMIN GREENE, b. Abt. 1787, Blowing Rock, NC; d. Abt. 1830. 8. viii.JOSEPH GREENE, b. Abt. 1782; d. 1861. 9. ix. ISAAC "MOUNTAIN" GREENE, b. 1787, Rowan Co., NC. Generation No. 2 2. SHADRACH4 GREENE (RICHARD3, JEREMIAH2, WILLIAM1) was born Abt. 1763 in NC, and died Aft. 1846 in Cleveland Co , NC. He married MARY GAGE December 20, 1782 in Rutherford Co, NC. Children of SHADRACH GREENE and MARY GAGE are: i. JOSHUA5 GREENE. ii. SHADRACH GREENE, b. Abt. 1789; m. ELIZABETH ???. iii. JOSEPH GREENE, b. Abt. 1797, NC; d. June 27, 1883, Warren Co, TN; m. SARAH MOONEY, 1816. iv. ELIZABETH GREENE, b. Abt. 1799; m. JOHN U. WILSON, December 20, 1832, Rutherford Co NC. v. ANSELOM GREENE, b. Abt. 1800; d. February 1876; m. ELIZABETH PHILBECK, February 11, 1822, Rutherford Co NC. vi. SARAH H. GREENE, b. Abt. 1805, NC; d. St. Francois Co, Farmington, MO; m. JAMES BURNS, February 22, 1823, Rutherford Co NC. vii. CORNELIUS GREENE, b. March 24, 1807; d. October 21, 1896, Cleveland Co , NC; m. MARTHA FARMER HARRILL, January 25, 1838. viii.MARVEL GREENE, b. Abt. 1809, NC; m. ANN M. GREENE. ix. ABNER GREENE, b. Abt. 1811, Rutherford, NC; d. Callway, MO; m. ELIZABETH B. WILSON, July 26, 1832, Rutherford Co NC. 3. JOHN MOCCASIN4 GREENE (RICHARD3, JEREMIAH2, WILLIAM1) was born Abt. 1772, and died 1852 in Madison Co., NC. He married ELIZABETH COFFEY Abt. 1796, daughter of REUBEN COFFEY and SARAH SCOTT. Children of JOHN GREENE and ELIZABETH COFFEY are: i. ARTHUR5 GREENE, b. April 20, 1797, Watauga Co NC; d. April 22, 1882, Bear Creek NC; m. NANCY SPARKS, Abt. 1819. ii. JAMES GREENE, b. Abt. 1799. iii. AARON GREENE, b. Abt. 1800; m. ANNIE BUCHANAN. iv. ELIJAH GREENE, b. November 04, 1800; d. July 15, 1882; m. MARY "POLLY" MOODY. v. ABEL GREENE, b. Abt. 1802; m. MARY GRAGG. vi. ISABELLA GREENE, b. August 17, 1803; d. February 20, 1874; m. JAMES BUCHANAN, September 21, 1822, Burke Co, NC. Notes for JAMES BUCHANAN: James and his family lived in Indiana. vii. AMOS GREENE, b. April 29, 1804, Watauga Co, NC; d. July 28, 1874; m. CENA ESTES, Abt. 1825. More About AMOS GREENE: Fact 1: Listed in 1850 census for Watauga Co, NC. viii.NANCY GREENE, b. Abt. 1806; m. JAMES COFFEY. ix. SARAH GREENE, b. Abt. 1808; m. WILLIAM COFFEY. x. SILAS GREENE, b. Abt. 1810; m. SUSAN ???, 1850. xi. DANIEL GREENE, b. Abt. 1814; m. ELEANOR???. xii. JESSE GREENE, b. Abt. 1815; m. MOURNING ???. xiii. ELEANOR GREENE, b. Abt. 1818; m. ??? MOODY. xiv. THOMAS GREENE, b. Abt. 1823; m. SARAH ???. Ronnie Greene RGreene431@aol.com

Hello List I would be in your debt if you recognize any of these Greens and can give me additional information. My direct line is in Caps---Tom in Minn 1 JOHN GREEN d: 1785 in Wallkill, Ulster Co., NY ..+PATIENCE d: Aft. 1784 2 Ebinezer Green 2 John Green 2 Patience Green 2 Elizabeth Green 2 ISRAEL GREEN b: 1740 d: 1791 in Walkill, Ulster Co, NY ...+SARAH b: 1740 m: 1765 d: 1791 3 Oraange Green 3 Jonathan Green 3 NATHANIEL GREEN b: 1769 in OR 1784 d: March 23, 1859 in Forrestburg, Sullivan Co NY ....+SARAH SMITH b: 1772 m: 1794 ..4 STEPHEN GREEN b: 1797 d: in Ulster co.?NY bd Griffin Corners NY ......+ESTHER GRIFFIN b: 1798 d: 1848 ...5 [2] HOLLIT TITUS GREEN b: 1826 in ? New York d: Abt. October 08, 1887 in or 1884 .......+OLIVE MARIE VOSBURGH b: 1832 in or 8/1830 d: 1898 in or 1904 Father: MICHAEL VOSBURGH Mother: CATHERINE BLAISDELL .....6 Catherine Esther Green b: February 08, 1849 in New York d: November 16, 1929 .........+Newton Wesley Hamer b: February 08, 1849 in Griffin Co., NY m: 1866 d: Abt. November 18, 1927 .....6 GEORGE HENRY GREEN b: July 27, 1851 in Princeton, Green Lake Co., Wisc. d: January 25, 1904 in Wadena, Minn .........+ELLA AUGUSTA BANTA b: February 17, 1856 in Ripon, WI m: March 06, 1873 in Princeton. WI d: July 05, 1925 in Wadena, Minn bd Wadena Father: JOHN MITCHELL BANTA Mother: ANGELINE WOODRUFF VAN VLECK ......7 George Guy Green b: June 28, 1877 in Gothland, Union Co., South Dakota d: April 01, 1907 in International Falls, MN ......7 Frank Banta Green b: April 16, 1879 in Gothland, Union Co., SD d: November 28, 1951 in International Falls, MN ..........+Mildred Evelyn Cleveland b: September 01, 1887 m: January 14, 1909 d: April 20, 1938 ......7 ALICE MADGE GREEN b: July 17, 1881 in Wadena, MN d: May 31, 1951 in St. Paul, MN ..........+FRANCIS JOSEPH McPARTLIN b: December 27, 1875 in New Auborn township, Sibley Co., MN m: July 17, 1906 in Duluth, MN d: May 25, 1954 in Salt Lake City, Utah Father: FRANCIS JOSEPH McPARTLIN Mother: CATHERINE MARIE KELLY ......7 Ella Maude Green b: March 21, 1884 in Wadena, Todd Co., MN d: July 21, 1958 in Minneapolis, MN bd. Wadena, MN ..........+Arthur LeRoy Mertens b: May 26, 1884 in New Prague, MN m: June 30, 1909 in International Falls, MN d: January 01, 1961 in Minneapolis, MN .....7 Aurilla Van Vleck Green b: January 31, 1886 in Wadena, Todd Co., MN d: March 15, 1960 in International Falls, MN ..........+William V. Kane b: 1870 m: June 12, 1913 in International Falls, MN d: April 07, 1948 in International Falls, MN ......7 Mitchell Vinton Green b: October 17, 1889 in Wadena, Todd Co., MN d: February 12, 1891 in bd. Wadena, MN ......7 Florence (nmi) Green b: July 19, 1892 in Wadena, Todd Co., MN d: March 05, 1970 in Duluth, MN ..........+Vernon Malone b: June 04, 1890 in Texas m: April 16, 1917 in Minneapolis, MN d: March 22, 1951 in Minneapolis, MN ......7 Robert Gladding Green, M. D. b: January 11, 1895 in Wadena, Todd Co., MN d: September 06, 1947 in Minneapolis, MN .......... +Byrle Sparks b: March 01, 1896 m: April 07, 1917 in Minneapolis, MN d: 1941 ......7 [1] Katherine Gladys Green b: May 03, 1897 in Wadena, MN d: May 12, 1971"Out West" ..........+Benjamin Franklin Finke b: November 20, 1894 m: April 18, 1922 in Portland, OR d: February 05, 1935 ......*2nd Husband of [1] Katherine Gladys Green: ..........+Charles Worrell b: January 01, 1896 m: January 18, 1947 ......7 Rollit Van Vleck Green b: June 21, 1899 in Wadena, MN d: January 06, 1970 in Ft. Frances, Ontario, Canada ..........+Signy "Signe" Nelson b: September 10, 1906 in Bergen, Norway m: July 27, 1929 in Ft. Frances, Ontario, Canada d: July 17, 1990 in Ft. Frances, Rainy River Dist., Ontario Father: Henrik Nikolai Nilsen Nonaas Mother: Jenny Cecilie Anderson .....6 Myron Duane Green b: Abt. 1857 ... *2nd Wife of [2] HOLLIT TITUS GREEN: .......+ANGELINE WOODRUFF VAN VLECK b: June 27, 1832 in or 1829 Fenner, ?NY m: August 07, 1866 d: September 01, 1899 in Wadena, MN bd Wadena, Minn Father: HARMANUS VAN VLECK, M.D. Mother: NANCY PUTNEY .....6 Eliza Green b: 1874 .....6 Angeline Green b: 1876 ..4 Osmer B. Green b: 1813 ......+Harriet A. ..4 [3] Ami Lewis Green b: February 05, 1822 in NY d: November 26, 1900 in WA ......+Lydia Gray ..*2nd Wife of [3] Ami Lewis Green: ......+Phoebe Catherine ..4 Sarah Green b: 1832 in NY 2 Daniel Green b: April 02, 1760 ...+Mary Gilson

Hi We don't seem to be getting anywhere with this family. Are any of the following names familiar with anyone? 1 GREEN, Joseph b: Abt. 1746 .. +PALMER, Susannah b: 07 June 1761 Whitnash, Warwickshire, England m: 27 April 1781 Whitnash. ...... 2 GREEN, Joseph b: Abt. 07 January 1781 Whitnash. d: 1866 .......... +JAMES, Mary m: 1805 Binley, Warwickshire, England ............... 3 GREEN, Charles b: 1806 ...... *2nd Wife of Joseph Green: .......... +WRIGHT, Elizabeth b: 1786 Bubbenhall, Warwickshire. m: 30 October 1808 Binley, Warwickshire. d: 1853 ............... 3 GREEN, Hannah b: 09 July 1809 Walsgrave on Sowe, Warwickshire, England ................... +COLE, William b: 19 October 1800 Coventry. m: 12 February 1833 Coventry. ............... 3 GREEN, Joseph b: 14 April 1811 Walsgrave on Sowe, Warwickshire, England ............... 3 GREEN, Phoebe b: 29 August 1813 Walsgrave on Sowe, Warwickshire, England ............... 3 GREEN, Mary b: 09 July 1815 Walsgrave on Sowe, Warwickshire, England ............... 3 GREEN, William b: 18 May 1817 ................... +PARKER, Ann m: 17 October 1841 Little Packington, Warwickshire, England ............... 3 GREEN, Susannah b: 1826 Coundon, Nr Coventry, Warwickshire, England ................... +CRANER, Joseph b: 1827 Maxstoke, Warwickshire, England m: 25 October 1849 Keresley, Warwickshire, England d: 07 August 1896 Can anyone assist? Many thanks Paul Reid paulreid@ecn.net.au www.familytreemaker.com/users/r/e/i/Paul-Reid/

To person named Ellen who is a descendant of James Jefferson Green: Please send me another message. I deleted by accident your email (sent to me while I was without a computer but now have a new computer). Hence, I do not have your email address. I only guessed that your ancestor came from some co. in NC because I remembered a speaker whose name I have now forgotten mentioned that people of Jones Co. (I think?) NC moved to Marengo Co, AL in the early 1800s. You see I am 81 hears old but still collecting Greens since I am looking for the parents of my Joseph Green who died in old Tryon Co, NC in 1771/2 (but will now filed in Lincoln Co.). I am not related to your line. Margaret Green

Would someone please share the naming pattern for children that I've heard about? Dianna Green Denton

I'm still a little new at all of this, so please bare with me... Thanks. My Cousin, and I have been researching our Helms, and Green lines, The Helms line has been solved (except for brothers and sisters), so our attention is now placed on his wife Adelia Green (e). She was to have been born in Bergen, County, NJ. no parents listed... this is from her death Certificate.., she was Married in 1864, to Charles V. Helms of Monroe Works, NY, which is were the Wedding took place. Yesterday, I came across, an Adelia Greene who's parents are Leland Greene and Nancy Wilmarth, however no dates are given for any of them, and no place of birth for any of them... Does any one know this family? Where are they from? I have looked on for information on census lists, and at the LDS, but so far Adelia has not turned up... This is the first that I have found..! If you can help, it would be greatly appreciated... Thank you, Wanda Clowater SunWolf@WolfEmail.com

Hi Group, I read an interesting story last evening about Judge John W. Green, born November 9, 1781, who was the grandson of Col. John Green, born about 1730, who was the son of Robert Green, born 1695. Judge John W. Green was the only son of Capt. William Green, born about 1757, who was captured at sea on the ship, Defiance by the British during the Revolution, and most researchers believe died in the battle. However, I have read that he escaped and reappeared three years later, but who knows. Judge John W. Green was apparently a great man and is always spoken of as one of the best of his time. He was the host to General La Fayette on his 4th visit to America in 1825. The 50th aniversary of the Decleration of Independence was a big event, and Gen. La Fayette was the guest of the nation and went from one reception to the next, and while visiting Culpeper County, VA, where many believe one of the first militia for the Revolution was formed, La Fayette was the guest of Judge John W. Green on August 22, 1825 at his home called Greenwood. The story is that after taking refreshments, the citizens form a receiving line and La Fayette asked to be introduced to each citizen. Judge John W. Green served his guest iced drinks, which must have been difficult in August of 1825. You can imagine how proud Judge John W. Green must have been to host this great patriot who was so loved by his grandfather, Col. John Green, who wrote to Thomas Jefferson while he was in Paris, in an effort to find his son, Capt. William Green, the father of Judge John W. Green. Can anyone fill in more details about this family? Tom Green

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I am posting this obit of Archibald Green, 1799 Vermont - 1885 Ohio in the hopes that it will help someone in our group. I found it in the book "Some Smiths, Osborns, and Allied Families of New England and Ohio": (Note his sons were living in NY) Obit.: Archibald Green, b. Williamstown, Vt., 1 May 1799, d. at his home in N. Bloomfield, Ohio, 30 Sept. 1885. "In Feb. 1817, a sturdy, brave hearted boy, with a sled, two yoke of oxen, and a team of horses, he made a 26-day journey from the hills of Vermont to the woods of Ohio. And going straight to Bloomfield he never changed his plan of battle. ...In 1829 he married Nancy Howe, a woman who would grace alike a cabin or a palace. ... Brick and marble may build palaces, but they do not build such a home as (theirs) ... For nearly half a century that modest home was as a rock in the storm, a light in the dark and a place of cheer in gloom to a whole community, and there was something touching and positively beautiful in the hold which it kept on the sons and daughters who went forth from it..." Mr. Green kept his integrity perfect...On all questions of morality, in all political questions where freedom for the slave, or justice to any man was concerned, men knew instinctively where he would stand.... Yet he was a perfect gentleman; he was simply unfailing in a courtesy and hospitality that was at once gentle and sincere...His whole life was an unusual example of unselfishness...He was forever stopping his own forward march to help someone on who faltered on the journey". He and Nancy had six children, five of whom survived him--Albert W. and Edward M. of New York; and Mrs. Wm. Chinnock, Mrs. W. S. Ackley, and Mrs. A. V. Crouch of "this county". ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------- Laura Greene lgg@interaccess.com lggreene@earthlink.net or redhed44@aol.com Carlsbad, California =================================================== Researching: Green(e) (RI>NY), Daves (NC>Illinois), DuBois (NY) Fay (Mass>NY), Riley (NY), Johnson (RI) Hardenbergh (NY), Holden (RI>Mass >NY), Mitchell (?>TX & KS) Putman (NY), Wands (NY), =================================================== FTM Homepage: http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/g/r/e/Laura-G-Greene/ Noel's Greene Database: http://al7fl.abts.net/green-page/green.htm Noel's Putman/Putnam Database: http://al7fl.abts.net/putman/putman.htm ===================================================

Hi List, I'm searching for a missing GREEN. My grandmother, born Jennie Green, 25 Sept 1870, Ohio, was married to my grandfather Joseph BRADFORD WEAVER, in IN in the late 1800's. She had a sister named Rosella. Her death certificate gave no parents and only that she was born in Ohio. Have not been able to get over this brick wall or even tear down a few bricks. Indiana doesn't show marriage stats for them or have I been able to find her or her parents on the 1880-1890-1900 census. However I have a photo of her and her sister Rosella taken in South Whitley, IN in 1899. If any GREEN's out there have siblings by these names, please contact me through the list or at my email. Anticipating, Harold Williams Mesquite, TX (Dallas suburb) willhn@flash.net -----Original Message----- From: Harold Green <GREENEALOGY@worldnet.att.net> To: GREEN-L@rootsweb.com <GREEN-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, October 07, 1998 3:51 PM Subject: [GREEN-L] Continued search for Nathaniel Green >Hi Listers; > I am still searching for one elusive Gr Grandfather, Nathaniel Green. >The information I have says he was born in Virginia in 1822 and came to >Indiana in 1857. I find him in the Indiana, Clay County census in 1860, >1870 and 1880, he died in 1897. My information also says he came from >Wytheville, Virginia. > I have searched many hours but don't find him in Virginia in 1850. >Of course I don't know if he came directly from Virginia to Indiana or >stopped somewhere along the way. Some other relatives came from >Virginia to Kentucky, then to Indiana. Since Wytheville is in the southern >part of Virginia I thought he might have taken the same route. > In the 1850 census I have found one Nathan Green living in >Ballard County Kentucky, about the right age, born in Virginia. > Does anyone out there know about this Nathaniel/Nathan Green >from Wytheville, Virginia, or the one living in Ballard County, Kentucky, >siblings, parents, or any little piece of information will be appreciated. >Harold Wayne Green > >______________________________

I am still trying to locate my grandfather JOHN MANVERS GREENE between 1902 and 1904 when he married my grandmother CECILIA POWERS . He was born in Phila in1858 to JOHN F A GREENE & MARIA MADDEN also of Phila, appears in the 1880 census living at 7078 Rubicam Ave in Germantown with his wife Frances L. Wood both age 23. They live next door to GEORGE & ELIZABETH WOOD,builder and WILLIAM & MARY WOOD vet. surgeon all born in England. The next time I find him is in the 1900 census living at 2322 Poplar St in Phila with his wife Sarah Wood sister of Frances and son Stanley age 18. As my mother was born in 1905, Frances must have died shortly thereafter, as I have heard, and he then met and married my grandmother Cecilia. Any clues would be greatly appreciated. Thank you Joan H. Smyth Yewtee@aol.com

Henry GREEN, b 9-21-1696 Stoneham, MA, d 1-1781 Killingly, CT, m 10-26-1721 Haverhill, MA Judith GUILE, b 1699?, d 5-2-1779 Killingly, CT, dau of Ephriam & Martha (BRADLEY) GUILE. Greatly appreciate further info on Judith and/or her ancestors. Thank you!! Karen

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------1BE75C6C738A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For your information!!! -- Tim mailto:phwalls@prodigy.net --------------1BE75C6C738A Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-ID: <361C334F.37AA@prodigy.net> Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 23:36:47 -0400 From: PHWALLS <PHWALLS@prodigy.net> Reply-To: PHWALLS@prodigy.net Organization: Prodigy Internet X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Uncle Clifford <bhds26a@prodigy.com>, Aunt Dorothy <HFGV79B@prodigy.com> CC: CIVIL-WAR-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com, CIVIL-WAR@rootsweb.com Subject: Naturalizations prior to Civil War: Most likely Required. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Civil War list: An excerpt from Page 15 of "American Naturalization Processes and Procedures 1790-1985" by John J. Newman, Indiana Historical Society, 1985, states the following: "NATURALIZATION BASED ON MILITARY SERVICE: Special considerations regarding the naturalization process were given veterans. An act of July 17, 1862, permitted 'any alien, of the age of twenty-one years and upwards, who has enlisted, or may enlist in the armies of the United States, either the regular or the volunteer forces, and has been, or may be hearafter, honorably discharged, without any previous declaration of intention to become such; and he shall not be required to prove more than one year's residence.' While this legislation was used to induce aliens to enlist for the Civil War, it applied to any war, including the Mexican, Indian, and the Spanish-American wars. One would not find any declaration made but would find proof of residence, good moral character, and proof of his honorable discharge." The implication of this? Soldiers were REQUIRED PRIOR TO THIS DATE to declare their intent to become citizens prior to enlistment and were required to show residence in accordance with the law giving them 3 years, if under the age of 18 when entered the US, or 5 years otherwise. If I am correct, Matthew Green was convicted of assault and battery in March 1852 after he had enlisted March 1851 and the Army got him out to New Mexico Territory and out of trouble. I need to find his first wife, Margaret, and his daughter, Mary Ann someplace, without Matthew in the household. As I said, I need experts like you two to find them in Saratoga County in 1855 and prove my theory correct. I have already ordered the CD database for the 1850 Federal Census. It cost me $30. If I get good results from using this, I will work on Jane Armstrong's whereabouts next, if our work does not somehow uncover her in 1850 with Matthew Green nearby. The booklet also talks extensively about naturalization fraud. In New York, there was "colossal fraud", beginning in 1828, mainly involving voting fraud. As you know, the certificate shows Matthew is 22, in August 1850, and he was naturalized in three years, not five. Another nail in my theory. The possibility exists that Matthew Green was forced to serve in the Army because he was an alien convict. During the Civil War, the government used naturalizations (implication: without permission) to gain the right to draft aliens. It could possibly have been forced on him due to his conviction, in the years prior to the Civil War. The Mexican War had raged a few years before. Many Irish went to serve in that war, on both the Mexican side and the US side. Guess they just loved to fight. -- Tim mailto:phwalls@prodigy.net Researching MCCLINTOCK, ARMSTRONG, GREEN, all of Irish descent, especially County Tyrone (MCCLINTOCK, ARMSTRONG) and Co. Meath (Green) --------------1BE75C6C738A--

In a book caleld the History of Greene Co GA. there is a listing for Elizabeth Greene marrying Robert Burns Jan 9th 1806. Is she the child of Willaim Greene Jr and Ruth Hunter Greene of the same county? Can someone help me out here? Thank you Richard Greene

In a message dated 98-10-07 14:24:36 EDT, you write: << Were your Greens still in Carroll Co. in 1840? Some of the given names you listed show up in John Cephas GREEN's family, but none of them are unusual, I suppose! There were at least two or three Tillmans in our family, Thomas & William occur frequently, as do Martha & Elizabeth John Cephas GREEN was b. 08 MAR 1812. According to various census schedules he was born in SC. He married Nancy T. HUCKEBA/HUCKABY, daughter of William and Sarah (Brown) Huckaby in Coweta Co., GA, in 1836. They were listed (on p. 51) in Carroll Co. on the 1840 census, though they apparently left GA around 1841. >> Hi Elizabeth, Sorry, but I don't recognize your John Cephas Green. I have no indication that the John Green in my line went to Georgia, but then I don't know where he went! Yes, William Mercer Green, born about 1786 in Burke County, NC died in Carroll County, Georgia on March 24, 1847 and is buried next to his wife, Nancy Porter Green who died March 6, 1847, in fact there was one burial ceremony for both. They are buried in a private family cemetery and a cousin was keeping up the graves, but has died within the past few years. This family lived in the home originally built by Samuel Hart who discovered gold in Indian territory, which caused the Indian wars of that day, ending in the Trail of Tears. Tom Green

In a message dated 98-10-07 11:41:03 EDT, Alixvb writes: << (Henry De Greene III was beheaded, but I don't yet know what for), and his > grandfather Henry I was Chief Justice. Might this be one of those cases of > an > illegitimate son making his own way, or taking a mother's name? Any help > would be appreciated. >> Hi Alix, I'm not sure who I am sending this message to, but hopefully you can forward to anyone I missed. About all I can add to the info posted is an explanation of why Sir Henry Greene was beheaded. Richard II had promised the son of the Duke of Lancaster that he could inherite his father's estate when he died, but the King changed his mind, because he needed the money, and when a outcry arose over the King's taking of personal property, the matter went to the "committee" of which Sir Henry Greene was the CEO, since he was the Lord Chief Justice. A legal opinion was a little different in the 1300's and Sir Henry Greene knew where his bread was buttered, and he ruled that the King did in fact have the right to change his mind. Well, as you can imagine, the new Duke of Lancaster was very upset, and he marched on the King, who had left to fight Ireland (again) so Sir Henry Greene decided that his responsibility was to protect the Queen, who was the 8 year old (you heard me right) daughter of the King of France. Sir Henry Greene and his two friends took the child Queen to the castle in Bristol because the palace guard was suppose to be the cream of the crop. Guess what the young Duke of Lancaster did; he bribed the palace guard, and walked right in and took Sir Henry Greene and his friends out to the town square and cut their head off! I bet you have not read that version of history! Tom Green

Was William Mercer GREEN the father, grandfather, or other relative of Luke GREEN b. 1846 MS? Luke married Mary JOHNSON and migrated to TX in the 1870's. His father was reportedly born in GA. Thanx, Carol