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    1. [GREEN-L] Ringold NJ?
    2. John & Dawn Lepre
    3. Sorry Betty I forgot to ask , Where is Ringold NJ. I live in Newton Sussex county and I am not familiar with this location? What part of NJ is it in? Thanks again Dawn

    11/09/1998 11:24:21
    1. [GREEN-L] Thanks Betty
    2. John & Dawn Lepre
    3. Thank you Betty. I don't know if Moses is related to Peter Green. Yes please let me know if you find anything. I am hitting a brick wall with him. Warwick NY only has files back to1881. And haven't come across anything yet . I don't really know where to go from here I am going to check the census reports again if I find out anything on Ebenezer I will let you know. I seem to remember coming across that name somewhere? Dawn

    11/09/1998 11:23:05
    1. Re: [GREEN-L] Re: US GenWeb Project
    2. Darrel R. Bell
    3. Try this URL you can access parts of the USGenWeb. http://www.nlt.net/usgenweb/index.html Darrel Bell FLGenWeb State Coordinator Carolmwc@aol.com wrote: > Is anyone having problems reaching Genealogy sites? I cannot get to the US > GenWeb Project directly or through a link. Also, I cannot reach the new > address for Cyndi's List. Thanks Carol

    11/09/1998 11:16:53
    1. Re: [GREEN-L] Do these sound familiar?
    2. Betty Brassington
    3. Dawn, I was glad to have your info on the family of Moses Green (1791-1866), of Warwick, NY. I understand you do not yet have his parents. Is there a possibility he is from the family of Peter Green of Ringold, NJ? I have some information about that family that I will dig out of my files to see is by chance there is a Moses there. This will take me awhile but will get back to you again as soon as possible. Betty

    11/09/1998 09:57:50
    1. Re: [GREEN-L] Question
    2. Betty Brassington
    3. Joe, I do have some information about a Green family from Phelps, NY and they may indeed be your family. But -- I will need some time to dig them out of my files!! I will get back to you as soon as possible. Betty

    11/09/1998 09:49:42
    1. Re: [GREEN-L] Question
    2. Betty Brassington
    3. Dear Folks, You asked about the land disputes of the land near Muncy, PA that finally caused my ancestor, Ebenezer Green, to leave his home there and move just across the NY line to Chemung, NY in 1788. I will give you what I have learned about this. The King of England granted royal charters to royal followers for land in New England, Virginia and elsewhere. A part of the land west of New England was inadvertantly granted to two groups of founders of PA and of CT. The father of William Penn had loaned a huge sum of money to the royal treasury and the only way the king could repay him was to grant a charter to him and his descendants for thousands of acres with vague boundaries. The whole area was given outright to a single person and to his descendants forever. The PA founders clearly believed they had the right to the territory and so did the ones from CT. The King had overlapped his royal charters and the land in the middle was stubbornly claimed for nearly 50 years by both CT and PA. Some CT speculators (The Susquehanna Company) encouraged settlers to settle this disputed strip of land. The PA authorities were firmly in control so when the CT settlers from Warwick, NY who were CT sympathizers went into Wyoming Valley, PA they were driven out by the PA people. Almost the entire membership of the of the Warwick Baptist Church went to Wyoming valley. They limped back to Warwick. Some other CT sympathizers from Warwick (including my ancestor Ebenezer Green and his family who were also members of that old Baptist Church) moved into the Susquehannah Valley near Muncy. This was during the Rev. War - about 1776/77. This group of CT people claimed land and made improvements. They also defended the settlements during the War and suffered great hardships. The Green family lost three sons to the War. But the settlers still could not get title to their lands even after the war had ended. Finally, in 1788, a group of them moved just across the border into NY and settled along the Chemung River. THE HISTORY OF WYOMING, by Isaac A. Chapman, written in 1818 and updated in 1830 tells this story in great detail -- of course the author was in sympathy with the CT settlers -- so I am rather prejudiced in favor of his account! The dispute continued from about 1753 until about 1800. Betty

    11/09/1998 09:45:30
    1. [GREEN-L] Re: US GenWeb Project
    2. Is anyone having problems reaching Genealogy sites? I cannot get to the US GenWeb Project directly or through a link. Also, I cannot reach the new address for Cyndi's List. Thanks Carol

    11/09/1998 01:35:31
    1. Re: [GREEN-L] Farnifold Green
    2. Jo Orvik
    3. Hi all, I now don't remember who first mentioned Farnifold GREEN but found that his will was published in this periodical. Eastern North Carolina Genealogical Society Quarterly Review Vol. 10, Issue 4 of the December, 1983 issue. Farnifold Green will, 1759, North Carolina Happy Hunting, Jo

    11/09/1998 01:09:44
    1. [GREEN-L] Culpeper Co, VA Greens
    2. Jo Orvik
    3. Hi List, I subscribe to an online library and found the following. There are more Greens listed if anyone wants me to publish to list or send privately, let me know. Jo Genealogical and Historical NOTES ON CULPEPER COUNTY, VIRGINIA. Embracing a Revised and Enlarged Edition of DR. PHILIP SLAUGHTER'S HISTORY OF ST. MARK'S PARISH. COMPILED BY RALEIGH TRAVERS GREEN. BALTIMORE SOUTHERN BOOK COMPANY 1958 THE GREEN FAMILY. ROBERT GREEN, son of William Green, an Englishman, emigrated from Ireland with his uncle, William Duff, a Quaker, to Virginia, and settled in King George county about the year, 1710. He was born in the year, 1695. He soon left his uncle and settled in what is now Culpeper county, near Brandy Station on the Southern Railway. He built his home near a large spring, which is on the road leading from Brandy Station to Rixeyville, and took up large tracts of land in what was, in 1712 Essex, in 1721 Spotsylvania, in 1735 Orange, and in 1749 Culpeper. His father was an officer in the body guard of William, Prince of Orange. He died in 1748, his will and inventory of his estate being recorded in the Orange county Clerk's Office. He was member of the Virginia House of Burgesses in 1736, and was one of the first vestrymen of St. Mark's Parish. When a young man, he married Eleanor Dunn, of Scotland, and had seven sons, as follows. [Note: The names in parenthesis or brackets signify the line of descent. Thus Joseph Green, [Francis, Wm., Wm., Robt.] means that Joseph Green was the son of Francis, the grand son of William, the great grandson of the first William and the great great grandson of the first Robert.] 1. William, born in Essex county; m. Miss Coleman, of Caroline county; was vestryman of St. Mark's Parish from 1749 to his death in Culpeper county in 1770. He was called Colonel Green, probably from military service against the Indians. 2. Robert, m Patty Ball, of Northumberland, and died in Culpeper. 3. Duff, m. 1st., Miss Thomas, 2nd., Anne Willis; he died in Culpeper about the beginning of the Revolution. His three youngest sons moved to Kentucky about 1779, and afterwards carried out their mother and younger sister. 4. John, m. Susanna Blackwell; was Colonel in the Revolution; succeeded William Green in the vestry of St. Mark's Parish in 1770; was member of the House of Burgesses in 1769, and died in Culpeper in 1793. 5. Nicholas, m. Elizabeth Price, dau. of Ajola Price, of Orange, whose mother was a dau. of Capt. Wm. Barbour; died in what is now Madison county, and left many children, who moved to Kentucky. 6. James, m. Elizabeth Jones, and died in Culpeper. 7. Moses, m. Mary Blackwell, sister of Susanna, and died in Culpeper.

    11/09/1998 12:53:07
    1. [GREEN-L] SUPPORT UNITS
    2. Elizabeth Angela Guyver
    3. SUPPORT UNITS 2 Station Complement Squadron 205 Finance Section 247 Medical Dispensary (Aviation) 305 Bomb Group (Heavy) 364 Bomb Squadron (Heavy) 365 Bomb Squadron (Heavy) 366 Bomb Squadron (Heavy) 422 Bomb Squadron (Heavy) 442 Sub-Depot 546 Army Postal Unit Type F 876 Chemical Company AO 1121 Quartermaster Company SG 1632 Ordnance Sm Company A 2030 Engineer Fire Fighting Platoon A 983rd Military Police Company This is the list of support units for Chelveston Airbase Thanks Eaguyver@btinternet.com

    11/08/1998 09:15:47
    1. [GREEN-L] David Greene
    2. Elizabeth Angela Guyver
    3. Hi Green(e) Group I thought I would post this again to see if anyone out there who is new to the list has my David Greene in their family ot know of him. I am wondering if David was his second name and he had another first name that I should be looking for in the records. It is believed that during WW11 he was in the American Air Army Corps (US 8th Air Force with 305th Bombardment Group H, either squadrons 364th or 365th or 366th or 422nd) It is thought that he we a despatch-rider so could have belonged to a support unit (see attached list). He was last in contact on 28th November 1944. He said he had had shots that day for posting overseas. At the time he was based at AAF 105 Chelveston (Sheraton) Airbase, Northamptonshire, near Bedford, England. He said that in civilian life he was a policeman in either Pittsburgh or Philadelphia PA areas. He said at the time that he believed his ancestors were Welsh. He would have been born between 1914 and 1920 and believed to be blood group AB or A. David Greene is my natural father, I am very curious as a genealogist who has traced my husbands and mothers family tree back 700 years, to find out where the other half of my genes come from. Also I would like to know what my natural father has done with his life and a little of his character. . I have been through all the offical channels and Military records etc, he was never reported missing or killed, just did a vanishing trick. This is the first time I have copied and pasted something so, I ddo not think I have a list for you of the support Units, I will have to do that separate. Could someone please give me the names and addresses of the Senator for East and West PA. Thanks. Elizabeth Angela Guyver Eaguyver@btinternet.com

    11/08/1998 09:05:28
    1. [GREEN-L] Internet charges
    2. Elizabeth Angela Guyver
    3. Hi Green(e) Group You are luck in USA as you get your internet and a certain amount of local calls local calls free. In the UK we pay a fee to belong to the server and then have to pay by the minute to use the internet. So it works out expensive unless like alot of people they use their company computer. My bill works out at about £30 -£40 a month mostly for e-mails, so beware that is what it costs. Take Care Beth Guyver Eaguyver@btinternet.com

    11/08/1998 08:13:43
    1. [GREEN-L] My surnames etc...
    2. J.Shiver
    3. Hi Everyone, I am finally going going to leave for my vacation so I will be unsubbing for about a week. Below is a list of my surnames and a brief description of them. If anyone knows anything or anyone please reply to me personally. mail to shiverj@bellsouth.net Thanks alot and I wish everyone a very happy week... -- SURNAMES: CLINE, GREEN,> From around Greene Co Ohio HARGRAVE, ODER,> Texas to Ohio (ODER from Germany oringinally) INLOW, JOB, RIGGS, WASHBURN, GORDON> these are from around Adams Co. Ohio to Fayette Co on some. MCCARTY, MILEY, SMALLEY, STULTZ,> From Highland, Fayette and Clinton Co's Ohio. I have gotten a great deal of information on INLOW, WASHBURN amd SMALLEY but would still love to hear more. My brickwalls (and biggest headaches) are MILEY and RIGGS. Noah RIGGS seems to have fallen out of the sky but I refuse to give up... :-) Husband's: GEOGHAGAN, HEWITT, MOORE, SHIVER (FL,GA,SC)

    11/08/1998 03:55:57
    1. [GREEN-L] John & Rachel Green
    2. Coleen Scott
    3. Grouop, I am going thru some very old material in my Hopkins line and found this. I have seen the surname on a list-maybe this one but didn't want the material to go to waste. The only connection of where is "Sugar Creek in Lincoln Co was in the section from which Garrard Co was partially formed in 1797" 7 Nov 1788, Francis Hopkins and Benjamin Green witnessed the consent by JOHN & RACHAEL GREEN for the marriage of their daughter ELIZABETH GREEN to ANDREW LYNAM." " In 1849 When Elizabeth Lynam, age 84, deposed that she was married 1788 in Garrard Co, KY at the house of Francis Hopkins" Sure hopes it helps someone Coleen Scott

    11/07/1998 11:14:23
    1. [GREEN-L] greens in warren co. NC
    2. Tim Merrill
    3. Have been off the list for several months and just gotten back on. With a little luck and much help from fellow Green researchers, I have a tentative list of my Greens. Before about 1740 in Southhampton Co., VA, after that in Warren County, NC. Would appreciate any feedback or mail from anyone that this line looks familiar to. 1 Thomas Green 1640 - 2 Edward Green 1670 - 1728 3 William Green 1710 - 3 Edward Green 1700 - 1783 4 Peter Green +Thamar Duke 4 Thomas Green 1720 +Sarah Turner 4 Frances Green +Ephraim Parham, Sr. 4 Mary Green 1725 - +William Duke, Jr. 1721 - 1793 4 Joseph Green ? - 1775 +Ann Turner 1720 - 5 William Green +Ruth Hunter 1764 - 1826 5 Charlotte Green 1740 - 1785 +John Duke, Jr. 1749 - 1803 5 Sarah Green +Drury Long ? - 1778 5 Josiah Green 1750 - 1814 +Mary Williford 1748 - 4 Edmund Green 1720 - 5 William Green, Sr. 1720 - +Mary Christmas 5 Ann Green +John Springer 5 Mary Green +Gideon Hunt Macon 5 Solomon Green +Fannie Hawkins 5 Burchet Green +Seymour Ransome 5 William Green, Jr. +Judith Anthony 5 Sally Green +Hugh Johnston 5 John C. Green +Parthenisa Hawkins *2nd Wife of John C. Green: +Delia Hawkins 5 Lucy Green +Hambleton Bonner 5 Henrietta Green +Robert West Alston Thanks, Tim Merrill

    11/07/1998 09:31:21
    1. [GREEN-L] Green(e) NC > TN
    2. Looking for parents/siblings of Lucy Green(e). She was born 4 Mar 1774 in Chatham Co, NC to William Greene and unknown. She married Shadrack Weaver ca 1788. Lucy died 15 Oct 1826 in Marshall Co, TN and is buried outside Lewisburg, Marshall Co, TN in Old Shiloh Cemetery. It's possible Lucy's name was Lucinda - there are several Lucinda's in the line from her. Thanks, Shawnda

    11/07/1998 04:39:50
    1. [GREEN-L] Internet Charge
    2. Carolyn R. Green
    3. >Return-Path: <ILFRANKL-L-request@rootsweb.com> >Delivered-To: crgreen@risecom.net >Resent-Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 14:44:31 -0800 (PST) >From: " johcleav"@swbell.net >Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 16:44:37 -0600 >Reply-To: johcleav@swbell.net >Old-To: ILFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Internet Charge >Resent-Message-ID: <"53n7P.A.6oD.O1MR2"@bl-30.rootsweb.com> >To: ILFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com >Resent-From: ILFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com >X-Mailing-List: <ILFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/4107 >X-Loop: ILFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com >Resent-Sender: ILFRANKL-L-request@rootsweb.com > >After doing a search on CNN, this is all I found. I don't think this old >dog will ever hunt, too many people doing business on the Internet. : > >CNN Today > > Internet Users may Soon Face Interstate Charges > > Aired November 6, 1998 - 4:21 p.m. ET > > THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS > FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED. > > NATALIE ALLEN, CNN ANCHOR: If you spend a lot of time on the > Internet, you'll want to keep an eye out for an upcoming decision >by federal > regulators. The Federal Communications Commission will determine if > Internet dial-up should be treated as local or interstate calls. >That decision > could affect the cost of surfing the net. > > CNN's Rick Lockridge explains what's happening. > > (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) > > RICK LOCKRIDGE, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Paul Elia > builds websites, works out of the basement of his home. He >says his > business will not grow unless the Internet does, too. > > PAUL ELIA, WEBSITE BUILDER: So if the Internet access >becomes > more expensive, Internet traffic will go down, and that will >definitely affect > us. > > LOCKRIDGE: Right now, most Internet calls are billed as >local, even when > they connect to faraway computers. Long-distance carriers >have been > squabbling for years over who should pay for those >connections. If the FCC > decides to define Internet phone calls as interstate instead >of local, the > long-distance carriers could charge for them accordingly. >That could mean > higher Internet access rates for many of us. > > CARY HOWELL, CEO, COMSTAR: I believe there would be a great > outcry of the public. > > LOCKRIDGE: Cary Howell is CEO of an Internet service >provider. > > HOWELL: What we have to do at that time is we have to >reevaluate > whether or not we just increase the base per-month charge or >if we increase > to an hourly or per-minute connect rate. > LOCKRIDGE: The new charges might not happen. The FCC has a >history > of protecting Internet users from higher telephone fees. But >even if the > agency rules otherwise this time, the threat of competition >from cable > modems and other technologies might persuade telephone >companies to > keep their prices down. Still, in the short term, >by-the-minute phone fees > could take a toll, particularly on schools and small >businesses, like Paul > Elia's. > > ELIA: Unfortunately, I'm going to have to absorb the >increased cost. What > we're going to do is get smarter about the time we spend on >line. > > LOCKRIDGE (on camera): Congress just passed a moratorium on >new > Internet taxes, feeling that such taxes could have a >chilling effect on the > Internet. Now the FCC will have to decide whether by-the- >minute phone > charges could have a similarly harmful effect. > > Rick Lockridge, CNN, Atlanta. > > (END VIDEOTAPE) > > TO PURCHASE A VIDEOTAPE OF THIS PIECE, PLEASE CALL > 800-CNN-NEWS > > >

    11/07/1998 03:55:41
    1. [GREEN-L] marriages
    2. scrimshire
    3. http://www.swinhope.demon.co.uk/genuki/NBL/Newcastle/StJohns/index.htmlThere are some Green marriages at this site 1831/32/33. But no Charles! Sorry, we will keep looking. Mell

    11/07/1998 09:57:45
    1. Re:[GREEN-L] Farnifold Green Family - VA.
    2. In a message dated 98-11-06 15:58:12 EST, you write: << Hi, We are researching Graves also, (wifes sister's line) as they came into Randolph County, NC. William Graves born early 1700s or so was an explorer. Have to wonder if these were connected? Ken >> Hi Ken, I have not done any research on the Graves family, except for the connection to the Farnifold Green family. Farnifold Green was married a lady named Hannah, and her last name is the question. Some say her maiden name was Kent, and some say Consolvo. What ever her maiden name, she married a Mr.Smithwick before marring Farnifold Green in 1693. After Farnifold Green was killed in about 1714 by the Indians, his widow must have married Capt. Richard Graves whose will is dated April 11, 1730. Richard Graves was the brother of Thomas Graves who married Sara Turner. Thomas Graves was an officer of the Virginia Company and came to Virginia in the fall of 1608. That is all I have on the Graves family., and would love to have any correction you may have. Hope this helps. Tom Green

    11/07/1998 06:20:25
    1. [GREEN-L] Fw: Off Topic - For Curiosity Only - The Census Taker
    2. Sue Pawley
    3. Hi Folks! The following was sent to me from another list Im on. It kinda hit home with me, so I thought I would share it with the rest of my Greene/Green "cousins" ( surely Im related to somebody out there? Doesnt anyone have a Charles FM Greene b abt 1848-50 in VA and whom had his children in NY in their ancestry? Anybody?) Enjoy the poem, I did. Sue Pawley trottr@icanect.net > It was the first day of the census, and all through the land > The pollster was ready.. A black book in his hand. > He mounted his horse for a long dusty ride > His book and some quills were tucked close by his side. > A long winding ride down a road barely there > Toward the smell of fresh bread wafting through the air. > The woman was tired, with lines on her face, > And wisps of brown hair she tucked back in place. > She gave him some water as they sat at the table, > And she answered his questions as best she was able. > He asked of her children...yes, she had quite a few; > The oldest was twenty, the youngest not two. > She held up a toddler with cheeks round and red. > His sister, she whispered, was napping in bed. > She noted each person who lived there with pride, > As she felt the faint stirrings of the wee one inside. > He noted the sex, the color, the age... > The marks from the quill soon filled up the page. > At the number of children, she nodded her head, > And he saw her lips quiver for the three that were dead. > The places of birth she "never forgot." > Was it Kansas, or Utah? Or Oregon.. Or not? > They came from Lithuania, of that she was clear, > But she wasn't quite sure just how long they'd been here. > They spoke of employment, of schooling and such. > They could read some, and write some, though really not much. > When the questions were answered, his job there was done, > So he mounted his horse and he rode towards the sun. > We can almost imagine his voice loud and clear, > "May god bless you all for another ten years!" > Now picture a time warp, it's now you and me > As we search for the people on our family tree. > We squint at the census and scroll down so slow, > As we search for that entry from long, long ago. > Could we only imagine on that long ago day > That the entries they made would affect us this way? > If they knew, would they wonder at the yearning we feel > And the searching that makes them so increasingly real. > We can hear, if we listen, the words they impart > Through their blood in our veins and their voice in our heart. > > Author unknown. > > Compliments of Sonoma County Genealogical Society, > Santa Rosa, Ca. www.scgs.org/scgs.html > > > ==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== > Have you considered joining the Rootsweb Genealogical Data > Cooperative? >

    11/06/1998 07:06:50